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13 Year-old Nicole Lovell Found Dead, Virginia Tech Student Arrested

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Thanks to @Valasca for this story.

http://wtvr.com/2016/01/30/nicole-lovell-found-dead-david-eisenhauer-arrested-virginia-tech/

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The search for missing Blacksburg teen Nicole Madison Lovell ended Saturday afternoon when Virginia State Police discovered her body just along Route 89 just over the Virginia border in North Carolina.
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The Suspect

Blacksburg police arrested 18-year-old David E. Eisenhauer, a freshman at Virginia Tech, Saturday morning after he became the focus of their investigation late Friday night.

The Columbia, Md., native was charged with one fount of felony abduction in Lovell's disappearance before he was later charged with first-degree murder after her body was recovered.
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http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...sted-death-13-year-old-girl-article-1.2515348

http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/david...ng-suspect-athlete-of-the-year-facebook-page/

These have a little more about suspect.
 
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She had a trach scar. Her transplant course wasn't smooth. :( Assuming he's guilty, I have a feeling she may have been crushing on this psycho/sociopath. Poor sweetie. Her parents have got to be absolutely devastated.
 
Thanks for the extra info. Idk if it makes me feel better or worse, smh. If one of my kids had run away and this was the outcome, I wouldn't make it through the guilt no matter what the reason was they'd left. And, I'm sorry, I'm honestly not trying to parent blame, but 13 and "participating in teen dating sites" is just not O.K. with me.

And this kid is no brain dead slouch, so why would he go to the trouble of dumping her right over the state line only 57 miles away, then leave her on/near a thoroughfare where she's likely to be found? That is such an idiot move. So full of himself he didn't think they'd connect him to it? Some weird, last minute guilt thing? Dumped her like a bag of trash? The carelessness and stupidity factors here strike me as odd for an engineering student.

I live right on a state line and dumb shits are always dumping bodies back and forth across the line thinking it's going to make some kind of difference. It doesn't. At least not here. Unless he deliberately set up a "date" with her and picked her up, or she was hitchhiking, or he saw her and offered her a ride and that's just where they ended up when he killed her?

Lots of questions, but this has the stink of an internet predator hook up written all over it, IMO. They've got him on abduction, so him picking her up would make sense, then they added the first degree charge, so however it happened, it sounds like he must have given them an indication he was in predator mode. I hope they publish the autopsy and his motive. He does *not* look upset in his booking photo, more like fond memories of the cat who ate the canary.
 
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Dumping someone over a state line just adds the feds to it, something you really don't want if you're the type to kidnap, kill and dump pretty girls. Now let me go read some more.

Police were concerned because Lovell was without her daily prescribed medication from a previous liver transplant. She had been last spotted wearing black jeans, grey striped Mossy Oak shirt and brown and pink “Baby Phat” boots. Additionally, she was reported to have possibly been carrying a blue blanket with yellow “Minions” characters.
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She was carrying a minions blanket, that just breaks my heart, she was just a baby and probably younger than regular since she was probably coddled and protected because of the liver transplant and whatever caused that.
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Oh yeah from @BostonBurns first link.
 
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cubby said:
She was carrying a minions blanket, that just breaks my heart, she was just a baby and probably younger than regular since she was probably coddled and protected because of the liver transplant and whatever caused that.
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Oh yeah from @BostonBurns first link.
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The minions blanket got me too. :( She was just a baby.
 
Livers don't just fail out of the blue and you die. Unless he had her for a significant length of time, that's not gonna be the culrprit.
 
How she crossed paths with David E. Eisenhauer, 18, a freshman from Columbia, Maryland, and member of the university's cross county team, was not immediately clear.

But police in Blacksburg, about 40 miles west of Roanoke, Virginia, said investigators had determined the two teens became acquainted prior to her disappearance. Eisenhauer took advantage of that relationship to abduct and kill Lovell, they said in a statement.

Police have not said how Lovell died.

Eisenhauer was arrested at his campus residence on Saturday, first charged with abduction and then accused of murder after Lovell's remains were discovered near a highway in Surry County, North Carolina.

Natalie Marie Keepers, 19, a sophomore at Virginia Tech from Laurel, Maryland, was arrested on Sunday and charged with improper disposal of a dead body and accessory after the fact in the commission of a felony.

"I'm so in shock I know nothing more to say," the girl's father, David Lovell, said on Facebook. "I'm broken!"

Family members had pleaded for Nicole Lovell's return, saying she was without the prescription medicine she needed daily after undergoing a liver transplant.

Authorities said the investigation was ongoing as they worked to piece together the timeline of events leading to Lovell's death.

A Virginia Tech spokeswoman would not comment on the enrollment status of Eisenhauer and Keepers, but the university said in a statement it had the authority to suspend students immediately on an interim basis in the case of a felony arrest.
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http://news.yahoo.com/two-virginia-tech-students-charged-death-13-old-192958235.html
 
I just surfed quite a few reputable sites on liver transplant patients stopping their meds and there are a couple of respected studies that have shown *some* kidney and liver transplant recipients have done O.K. without their anti-rejection and adjunct meds, but this is very early research on very small groups and it's still in its infancy.

Though it's being studied and there's a lot of buzz about it (taking the meds for at least the first 8 yrs. post transplant in kids and adults seems to be a factor in being able to wean off them or stop taking them altogether), there is zero reliable, medical evidence patients, in general, can survive without them.

As a general rule in otherwise healthy people, acute liver failure causing death (which is what she would have been in or could have been going into at the time), can take up to three days for the liver to completely shut down, but there are so many other factors/body systems involved besides rejection including blood pressure, kidney function, etc., any one of them could've been responsible had she died from not taking the meds. Until they verify her exact COD via the autopsy, though, I'm with @JackBurton re: the first degree charge.

With Ms. Keepers being charged with helping him get rid of her body, I wonder if she had anything to do with it/prior knowledge, or if he called/told her what he'd done and asked for her help. We read these stories every day, but this is one of those that's bugging me for some reason. :confused:
 
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She looks like the type of chick to participate in something like this for a dude. Like how desperate does one have to be to help someone cover up a murder. I'm all for loyalty but this is a little much for me. I wonder if he did it coz he was afraid to go to jail for having sex with a minor.
 
How sad! We have seen this time & time again, and agree that parents really need to start monitoring their children's use of the net much more. Not that we need labels to identify evil people, but I do agree that Natalie Keepers appears to display a soul-less, psychopathic persona. Perhaps the mask is off now. Let's remember to STOP calling sociopaths/psychopaths, crazy, because they are NOT psychotic/legally insane. They are very aware of reality, they know right from wrong, they just have no conscience. These people are MORALLY-insane, they are NOT legally-insane, and if proven guilty, they ARE responsible for their crimes.
 
Denny711 said:
Not that we need labels to identify evil people, but I do agree that Natalie Keepers appears to display a soul-less, psychopathic persona. Perhaps the mask is off now. Let's remember to STOP calling sociopaths/psychopaths, crazy, because they are NOT psychotic/legally insane. They are very aware of reality, they know right from wrong, they just have no conscience. These people are MORALLY-insane, they are NOT legally-insane, and if proven guilty, they ARE responsible for their crimes.
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Ok, fair enough. Good point. I fixed my above comment to reflect this bitches scary soul lacking eyes. Empty, dead, n creepy as fuck..
I don't like being called crazy either.. BUTTTTT then again, I'm not disposing of dead bodies. Cuz that IS some crazy ass shit..

I'm honestly just waiting to hear her use some ignorant, bat shit, defense like
"But..but...but dontchu know I'm a Keeper."
Natalie Marie KEEPERS, 19, a sophomore at Virginia Tech from Laurel, Maryland, was arrested on Sunday and charged with IMPROPER DISPOSAL OF A DEAD BODY
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Totally not a laughing matter, cuz I feel so awful for Nicole Lovell's premature death, the fear she must have felt when she realized she was in trouble, and the pain her family and friends are now enduring. But the nerdy wordy part of me is stuck on that too..
Aha, that's it. I just figured it out.. She was trying to prove to David Eisenhauer, that she's a keeper?!? That just makes it all so much grosser. You are both disgusting, vile, evil fuckers. She was just a baby!!! Fuck you both- for robbing her of a life, that she was given a second chance to live when she received her liver years ago.

Maybe you both should be forced to become live organ donors, while slowly donating your organs 1 by 1, (removed without anesthesia) to others awaiting transplant. In honor of Nicole Lovell.. Neither of you, is a keeper in my book. Not even in prison. Fuck you both.
 
SimplySpaztastic said:
Ok, fair enough. Good point. I fixed my above comment to reflect this bitches scary soul lacking eyes. Empty, dead, n creepy as fuck..
I don't like being called crazy either.. BUTTTTT then again, I'm not disposing of dead bodies. Cuz that IS some crazy ass shit..

I'm honestly just waiting to hear her use some ignorant, bat shit, defense like
"But..but...but dontchu know I'm a Keeper."


Totally not a laughing matter, cuz I feel so awful for Nicole Lovell's premature death, the fear she must have felt when she realized she was in trouble, and the pain her family and friends are now enduring. But the nerdy wordy part of me is stuck on that too..
Aha, that's it. I just figured it out.. She was trying to prove to David Eisenhauer, that she's a keeper?!? That just makes it all so much grosser. You are both disgusting, vile, evil fuckers. She was just a baby!!! Fuck you both- for robbing her of a life, that she was given a second chance to live when she received her liver years ago.

Maybe you both should be forced to become live organ donors, while slowly donating your organs 1 by 1, (removed without anesthesia) to others awaiting transplant. In honor of Nicole Lovell.. Neither of you, is a keeper in my book. Not even in prison. Fuck you both.
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SimplySpaztastic said:
Ok, fair enough. Good point. I fixed my above comment to reflect this bitches scary soul lacking eyes. Empty, dead, n creepy as fuck..
I don't like being called crazy either.. BUTTTTT then again, I'm not disposing of dead bodies. Cuz that IS some crazy ass shit..

I'm honestly just waiting to hear her use some ignorant, bat shit, defense like
"But..but...but dontchu know I'm a Keeper."


Totally not a laughing matter, cuz I feel so awful for Nicole Lovell's premature death, the fear she must have felt when she realized she was in trouble, and the pain her family and friends are now enduring. But the nerdy wordy part of me is stuck on that too..
Aha, that's it. I just figured it out.. She was trying to prove to David Eisenhauer, that she's a keeper?!? That just makes it all so much grosser. You are both disgusting, vile, evil fuckers. She was just a baby!!! Fuck you both- for robbing her of a life, that she was given a second chance to live when she received her liver years ago.

Maybe you both should be forced to become live organ donors, while slowly donating your organs 1 by 1, (removed without anesthesia) to others awaiting transplant. In honor of Nicole Lovell.. Neither of you, is a keeper in my book. Not even in prison. Fuck you both.
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SimplySpaztastic, You're right! I just get tired of these heartless monsters pretending they have the "Norman Bates Complex", by feigning delusions or psychosis, when everybody knows they are psychopaths who are very well aware of their actions, but just don't care and aren't delusional-psychotics. The courts are fooled sometimes when they pull the insanity card, thanks to the media for making the public believe that sociopathy/psychopathy are synonymous with psychotics suffering from psychosis. I definitely agree with you, what they did is downright crazy, and I hope the court system isn't fooled if they try to play 'crazy', if you catch what I'm saying.
 
Denny711 said:
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SimplySpaztastic, You're right! I just get tired of these heartless monsters pretending they have the "Norman Bates Complex", by feigning delusions or psychosis, when everybody knows they are psychopaths who are very well aware of their actions, but just don't care and aren't delusional-psychotics. The courts are fooled sometimes when they pull the insanity card, thanks to the media for making the public believe that sociopathy/psychopathy are synonymous with psychotics suffering from psychosis. I definitely agree with you, what they did is downright crazy, and I hope the court system isn't fooled if they try to play 'crazy', if you catch what I'm saying.
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Because there are 2 people involved, an insanity defense is almost unheard of... Seriously- 2 people don't just both go into psychosis at the same time to dispose of a body. How convenient...

From BostonBurns link above with her ugly evil pic:
Speaking of Keepers:
According to a tweet from her high school, she was also the assistant director for the school’s theater department as well as acting in shows.
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I'm sure this will be taken into consideration as well. She was a fucking actress.. However there are body reactions and behaviors, which we have no control over- that are damn near impossible to fake- and she can't be THAT good of an actor, to fake body reactions.. These were not kids who had mental delusions or can swing an insanity defense. These were college kids- students, Champion athletes, and well liked by those that they had gone to school with. There would have been prior signs, and from what I've been reading, NEITHER showed any signs of illness or insanity. This would be a VERY hard defense to use for either of these gross, evil people to pull, and if I'm not buying it, neither will experts in psychology or behavior...

While they both committed sick, gross, evil, disturbing acts; they both show to be very aware of their actions in life, based on what I have read about them both. So I wouldn't worry too much about the insanity card... They may try it, but pull it off? Nahhhh. Doubtful. Maybe a plea deal when one turns on the other, but this one isn't screaming insanity (IMO.)
 
While I agree with the points you @Denny711 make about the media dubbing socio/psychopaths as 'crazy', I have to disagree with ur assessment that courts are often 'fooled' by this defense.
Look at almost all of the famous serial killers. Cannibals. Mansons. The worst of the worst. The media dubs them with labels. But where are (were) they now?

Legal insanity as a defense isn't actually attempted frequently in many states because it is considered synonymous with a very low success rate. Most defense attorneys will tell u that's a last ditch effort to save a client, because there is no other defense.

That's when they start crying that the defendant has mitigating factors such as being molested, abused, not responsible for their actions at the time of the murder. Most juries/judges thankfully don't buy it. They might take those into account, but they don't sway legally insane vs not.
 
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I haven't read anything on this today, but is it possible the first degree charge is because dude kept Nicole away from medication? Maybe he didn't deal the killing blow. I don't know, just something I was thinking.
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ovell didn't like going to school because girls called her fat and talked about the scars from her transplant, Weeks said.

Lovell often cried to stay home from school, her mother said.

"It got so bad I wouldn't send her," Weeks said, but the bullying continued on social media.


Half of me hopes they feel bad because then they might not bulky anyone else.
 
Found a good article with a ton of photos at the Daily Mail. Here's the link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...urder-remains-following-three-day-search.html

Nicole was just a baby,really, and she'd already endured so much in her short life. I'm furious at these two college teens who felt entitled to mess with her. David Eisenhauer of course, but also the witless twat Natalie Keepers. Who the hell gets a call from someone saying they've got the corpse of a child on their hands and runs right out to help them dispose of it? :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Here's Nicole with her dad:
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And just being a kid:
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Humanus Imperfectus said:
kids shouldn't be allowed to be on the internet without supervision. it's replaced tv as a cheap babysitter and there is just too much shit that can go wrong. being murdered by a pedophile is the worst possible outcome but it's not the only one.
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lol, good luck with that! My guess is you don't have kids. Never fails to amaze me how quickly those without kids are to criticize or instruct parents on how to raise kids. I understand where you're coming from but keeping kids off the internet without supervision is a WHOLE lot easier said than done.

Just about every kid these days has a cellphone so as web deprived as your pretend child might be, there's friends & the like who are quick to draw a crowd when there's something to be seen. Regardless of how many passwords & limitations you put on their exposure, there are ways & kids these days have plenty of resources to find a loophole. Unless you homeschool or keep your kid with you 24/7 ..the reality of keeping them from the Internet is unrealistic. Take it from a parent who tried.
 
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CbabyRKO said:
She looks like the type of chick to participate in something like this for a dude. Like how desperate does one have to be to help someone cover up a murder. I'm all for loyalty but this is a little much for me. I wonder if he did it coz he was afraid to go to jail for having sex with a minor.
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She looks like the kind of bitch that would catch her boyfriend talking to a little girl online and then demand that he kill her to prove his love for her only.
 
Mata Hari said:
She looks like the kind of bitch that would catch her boyfriend talking to a little girl online and then demand that he kill her to prove his love for her only.
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Ooh, good twist! I look forward to learning more details of what really happened in this case.
 
What? Kids don't have enough computer time at school?! Dude, THE SCHOOL GIVES THEM IPADS. Do you have ANY IDEA how expensive private schools are?! I'm stopping right here because there's so much I could shred you on, just by the little you've already said. I'll give you a pass for IGNORANCE. You're seriously talking out of your :asshat:. You need to pick a color & order one of these bad boys. I'll leave it at that.
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@Humanus Imperfectus I gave you a show the love cause you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Have a couple of kids and get back with us on that, and if you are federally prohibited from procreating, just borrow a couple or thee or four for about 6 weeks and tell us all about how you're keeping tabs on every last second of everyday of every last one of those kids.

Some days the best you can do is hope that something you've said has sunk in far enough to keep them from killing themselves or others and everyday that they survive is one more day you gotta hope that they make it to the next one, and I only know boys, girls are a whole 'nother kettle of fish.
 
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Clarification: I think folks who're used to reading my particular posts know that as someone with experience in the MH field, I use the term "psycho/sociopath" quite frequently as an insult and personally, I'm not using it in the clinical sense to diagnose or insinuate there needs to be an ounce of MH consideration in cases like these. In my first post, I wasn't suggesting he was actually mentally ill in any way, shape, or form. Just clearing that up since I used the words as a compound. :)
 
Humanus Imperfectus said:
guh you guys sound like my parents. also what's wrong with owning buttplugs?
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And you sound like a teenager instead of a 34-year-old male. You don't gotta lie to kick it. If you're a 19-year-old rockin' the parents' basement, we understand. You wouldn't be the first of that variety to stir up these waters, and I think we've all been suspecting it for a while, so feel free to come out. ;)

That said, perhaps you simply misspoke when you said "supervision"? Perhaps you meant "monitoring"? You see, us parental folks tend to think of supervision as eyes actively on the activity. My child is supervised at the park because I'm standing right there, looking at her. That becomes a little difficult with technology.

However, if you meant "monitoring", like, spyware or something, I think we can ALL agree. A child should not have unfettered access to the internet, wherever we're able to mitigate. We should be using parental controls to be blocking unsavory sites and search topics, maybe using password recovery software or regular old keyloggers to monitor activity and snag those passwords. We should be keeping our finger on the pulse of new messaging apps designed to keep parents out. As soon as one parent finds one, they report it to the local media to send up the flag to other parents. It's really not that difficult.

In short, in this day and age, it's absolutely inexcusable for parents to be blindsided by their child's online activity after something like this happens.
 
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