lithiumgirl
Pretty Nice Troll
During one of the police press conferences an officer stated as much.
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During one of the police press conferences an officer stated as much.
Anosmia
Active Member
Apparently there's now more than one discussion group, but the one I belong to is called "Liberty German and Abigail Williams Case Discussion."
Jake88
SARCASTIC SLUT
LOL! Now that I think about it, maybe they are trying to amaze and awe...
Obviously it was rhetorical, but yeah I agree that they get off on shocking and disgusting people I think, which is weird. I don't know how I could get off from having a woman shame my peepee like dat...
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Please defend me too! I'm constantly getting bullied around here! It's so unfair Miss Guggle...
Mata Hari
Dirty Gutter Bitch
I am also in that group and I saw it mentioned about them possibly being cat fished. That has become the only thing on my mind now. Were these girls set up for murder? What are the chances that a random psycho murderer just happened to stumble across two girls to murder in the middle of the day in an odd place where he could get away with murdering them?
Then I started thinking even more deviously like what if they knew the killers, what if that man in the video really is just a witness? "Down the Hill" isn't exactly "get on your knees and beg for your life" I don't know. What if they were killed by other kids? I also read somewhere about it possibly being more than one killer.
ScribbleMuse
Constant Lurker & Sporadic Mass Poster
[QUOTE="Mata Hari, post: 1057643, member: 14914"I also read somewhere about it possibly being more than one killer.[/QUOTE]
This is what has been in my mind throughout this case. The girls are 13, plenty big enough to have been a difficult handful to subdue both at once. The most plausible scenario for one person to be responsible is obviously to subdue one and depend on the other girl to attempt to help her friend by following instructions. I have always said that one of the worst parts about being in danger by another person is the inability to really understand that you are in danger of your life, and so the temptation to just make it through and do what it takes until the ordeal is over is stronger than the real fear that you may lose your life. By the time you're able to understand the full crisis, it's often too late. We all know that youngsters are very prone to a feeling of immortality, and so it's a scenario easy to imagine if one girl were being threatened and the other thinking that something could be done to help.
Also, there is the fact that as far as I know, no one has released much information about the cause of death or the other evidence that could explain what and how they were murdered. If they were shot, it is easier to imagine a quick murder of two girls. But why in the fuck would anyone just shoot two girls like this? Did they recover the phones or are they items they've retrieved digital records from the cloud? If the phones were left, then robbery is not the reason. If this is just a one-person crime, then how would the person have kept both girls subdued in a semi-public place long enough to do whatever twisted reasons they had to do this? If it's a multi-person crime, it makes more sense but is still leaving a very difficult scenario to figure out.
As others have said, I am hoping that the cops have much more info than they're letting the public know about. I am frustrated at times by this necessity but then I realize that thsi is not just an interesting fictional piece that I'm reading, that there are real people here and anything to potentially harm the investigation would be as much as contributing to the trauma of the survivors. I hope that the police have something that will lead to the proper justice in this case, and that the monster or monsters responsible are stopped from doing more harm and to be frank, I personally hope they are suffering now and will forever for doing this to innocents.
This is what has been in my mind throughout this case. The girls are 13, plenty big enough to have been a difficult handful to subdue both at once. The most plausible scenario for one person to be responsible is obviously to subdue one and depend on the other girl to attempt to help her friend by following instructions. I have always said that one of the worst parts about being in danger by another person is the inability to really understand that you are in danger of your life, and so the temptation to just make it through and do what it takes until the ordeal is over is stronger than the real fear that you may lose your life. By the time you're able to understand the full crisis, it's often too late. We all know that youngsters are very prone to a feeling of immortality, and so it's a scenario easy to imagine if one girl were being threatened and the other thinking that something could be done to help.
Also, there is the fact that as far as I know, no one has released much information about the cause of death or the other evidence that could explain what and how they were murdered. If they were shot, it is easier to imagine a quick murder of two girls. But why in the fuck would anyone just shoot two girls like this? Did they recover the phones or are they items they've retrieved digital records from the cloud? If the phones were left, then robbery is not the reason. If this is just a one-person crime, then how would the person have kept both girls subdued in a semi-public place long enough to do whatever twisted reasons they had to do this? If it's a multi-person crime, it makes more sense but is still leaving a very difficult scenario to figure out.
As others have said, I am hoping that the cops have much more info than they're letting the public know about. I am frustrated at times by this necessity but then I realize that thsi is not just an interesting fictional piece that I'm reading, that there are real people here and anything to potentially harm the investigation would be as much as contributing to the trauma of the survivors. I hope that the police have something that will lead to the proper justice in this case, and that the monster or monsters responsible are stopped from doing more harm and to be frank, I personally hope they are suffering now and will forever for doing this to innocents.
FrayedKnot
Chupacabra
Well, that is saying quite a bit.......
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Half of Chinquapin Parish has been waitin' to take a whack at Jack......
Kseniya
Member
IN THE NEWS TODAY 3/2/17- -The case has been dubbed “THE SNAPCHAT MURDERS” because of two haunting photographs posted to the social media platform by Libby before the friends were murdered. (notice how they use the word: "HAUNTING" and sometimes use words like EERIE when discussing this case)?
DIDN'T SOMEONE HERE SAY THEY SAW SOMETHING IN THE DISTANCE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH LIBBY TOOK OF ABIGAIL ON THE BRIDGE??? BECAUSE:
Police believe Libby starting filming after becoming concerned the man was following them and there has been speculation on social media that he is the dark shape seen in the distance of her final Snapchat of Abby.
ANYONE SEE ANYTHING???? WHAT DO YOU ALL SEE????
Authorities have said they recovered more footage from Libby’s phone but declined to release it.
Residents of Delphi, especially families, have had to explain to their children that a real life BOOGEYMAN is on the loose!
[doublepost=1488489091,1488488645][/doublepost]Speculation is running high among locals and on social media about the possibility the girls were catfished by somebody posing as a teenager that they met online [or] whether they were the "random" victims of a violent stranger.- -I've been saying they were LURED by someone they believed was another kid their age online and they were waiting to meet up with "this kid" at the bridge, when the suspect showed up.
Locals fear that as long as the perpetrator remains at large, he could strike again without warning. My personal opinion is at this point HE COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE US 50 STATES- -and could strike again!
Get on Twittter and TWEET the pic and reward and contact info so we can reach as many ppl as possible! The More photos of him out there the more likely he'll be caught, You'd be surprised how many ppl are completely UNAWARE of this case!!! We can help by keeping this story out there in the media, like on Twitter where it reaches A LOT of ppl!
DIDN'T SOMEONE HERE SAY THEY SAW SOMETHING IN THE DISTANCE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH LIBBY TOOK OF ABIGAIL ON THE BRIDGE??? BECAUSE:
Police believe Libby starting filming after becoming concerned the man was following them and there has been speculation on social media that he is the dark shape seen in the distance of her final Snapchat of Abby.
ANYONE SEE ANYTHING???? WHAT DO YOU ALL SEE????
Authorities have said they recovered more footage from Libby’s phone but declined to release it.
Residents of Delphi, especially families, have had to explain to their children that a real life BOOGEYMAN is on the loose!
[doublepost=1488489091,1488488645][/doublepost]Speculation is running high among locals and on social media about the possibility the girls were catfished by somebody posing as a teenager that they met online [or] whether they were the "random" victims of a violent stranger.- -I've been saying they were LURED by someone they believed was another kid their age online and they were waiting to meet up with "this kid" at the bridge, when the suspect showed up.
Locals fear that as long as the perpetrator remains at large, he could strike again without warning. My personal opinion is at this point HE COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE US 50 STATES- -and could strike again!
Get on Twittter and TWEET the pic and reward and contact info so we can reach as many ppl as possible! The More photos of him out there the more likely he'll be caught, You'd be surprised how many ppl are completely UNAWARE of this case!!! We can help by keeping this story out there in the media, like on Twitter where it reaches A LOT of ppl!
FrayedKnot
Chupacabra
I suspect you are quoting (without giving credit to) "The Daily Mirror" or some other sensationalist rag. Or a FB page. Or Reddit. Don't be Abraham Linkless.
Those things in the distance are pillars which supposedly block the entrance to the bridge at the NW entrance.
And for the love of fabric softener, will you PLEASE quit screaming at us via all caps? I like some of what you've got to say, but sometimes delivery makes all the difference.
Kseniya
Member
[doublepost=1488596607,1488596476][/doublepost]Sorreeeeee I'm naturally LOUD, even in writing when I'm trying to EMPHASIZE, but a lot of times I write in ALL CAPS so I can SEE the print better
I suspect you are quoting (without giving credit to) "The Daily Mirror" or some other sensationalist rag. Or a FB page. Or Reddit. Don't be Abraham Linkless.
Those things in the distance are pillars which supposedly block the entrance to the bridge at the NW entrance.
And for the love of fabric softener, will you PLEASE quit screaming at us via all caps? I like some of what you've got to say, but sometimes delivery makes all the difference.
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This is what has been in my mind throughout this case. The girls are 13, plenty big enough to have been a difficult handful to subdue both at once. The most plausible scenario for one person to be responsible is obviously to subdue one and depend on the other girl to attempt to help her friend by following instructions. I have always said that one of the worst parts about being in danger by another person is the inability to really understand that you are in danger of your life, and so the temptation to just make it through and do what it takes until the ordeal is over is stronger than the real fear that you may lose your life. By the time you're able to understand the full crisis, it's often too late. We all know that youngsters are very prone to a feeling of immortality, and so it's a scenario easy to imagine if one girl were being threatened and the other thinking that something could be done to help.
Also, there is the fact that as far as I know, no one has released much information about the cause of death or the other evidence that could explain what and how they were murdered. If they were shot, it is easier to imagine a quick murder of two girls. But why in the fuck would anyone just shoot two girls like this? Did they recover the phones or are they items they've retrieved digital records from the cloud? If the phones were left, then robbery is not the reason. If this is just a one-person crime, then how would the person have kept both girls subdued in a semi-public place long enough to do whatever twisted reasons they had to do this? If it's a multi-person crime, it makes more sense but is still leaving a very difficult scenario to figure out.
As others have said, I am hoping that the cops have much more info than they're letting the public know about. I am frustrated at times by this necessity but then I realize that thsi is not just an interesting fictional piece that I'm reading, that there are real people here and anything to potentially harm the investigation would be as much as contributing to the trauma of the survivors. I hope that the police have something that will lead to the proper justice in this case, and that the monster or monsters responsible are stopped from doing more harm and to be frank, I personally hope they are suffering now and will forever for doing this to innocents.[/QUOTE]
Kseniya
Member
I don't think it is highly unlikely it is more than one killer, and despite the girls size and age, if you think about, it would not be that difficult to subdue these two girls if this suspect had either a gun or a knife with him as a means to "threaten" the girls. If he had rope with him, or handcuffs, he could easily have one girl (at knife point or gun point) tie one girls hands, directing them on how to, and he would then be able to bind the other girl himself. Although he could have had them walk in front of him under threat due to the knife and or gun he had with him saying "if anyone came along the path they were walking he would kill everyone." this would thus be a means of controlling the two girls. I just found this video yesterday on Youtube and it is a very interesting theory, regarding a cemetery that is near where the bodies were discovered. It shows how the killer could have parked on this cemetery, which had a (secret?) access way to the bridge. Then walk the girls back past the cemetery to the property where the body's were discovered, go back to where he parked his car at the cemetery and hit the highway from it and make his escape! The property where the bodies were discovered was located near this cemetery. The cemetery had access way to the bridge and it was located right off the higway! In my opinion, whoever committed this crime "had prior knowledge" that these 3 locations were linked to each other. The suspect grew up in Delphi, maybe even been on the property growing up. Figure he's in his early 30's -40's now. Here's the link on Youtube showing this it's called "Delphi Murders - Visual Timeline & Theory About Cemetery"
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This was a very interesting point you brought up, "the mind set" of what one would do in a situation like that, especially children of this age. The part where u said "just to make it through and do what it takes until the ordeal is over" is stronger than "the real fear that you may loose your life" was an excellent point you made!!! I tried to envision why one did not run leaving the other behind, which would enable the one that ran to get help. I don't think he tied them but by intimidation (having a knife/gun) even in his pocket even after bringing it out and showing it to them, this is what he controlled them with to make them go to the location he killed them.
But, what was their mind set, did they consider along the way running? They walked through woods, both taking off in different directions. Would they have been able to get away? Did it cross their mind that attempting to run may have maybe given them a better chance than allowing him to take them to where he was directing them. Of course unless he had a gun, and could shoot them both, maybe that's how he controlled them, at gun point. And I don't think he shot them, it would have been too "noisy," and is not usually what means seriel killers use, they strangle or use knives.
But where u said, "if one girl were being threatened and the other girl thinking that something could be done to help," maybe if one was made to walk ahead of the other girl thought she could run but I didn't want to leave her friend???
If he had a knife, would he leave the one girl to go run after the other, which leaves me to think he had them at gunpoint and I think he had both on him.
Children at that age I guess wouldn't dream of running, but then again, possibly they would, and if the thought crossed their mind they would be thinking of the other child, but over their own safety? Maybe thinking there would come a opportunity later to "do something" but at the moment there was no opportunity, maybe waiting for an opportune moment, is the best they could hope for.
Im thinking he probably held a gun/knife or whatever to one of the girls and told the other girl that if she ran or screamed then her friend was dead. That leaves both girls thinking that if they just did what he said then he would let them go at some point.
One of these girls wouldnt risk letting the other one get killed by running or screaming.
Thats my thoughts on the 1 killer theory. I really have no idea if there was just one or if more were involved, but i can see there only being 1 killer. These were 2 tenenaged best friends...one wouldnt risk the life of the other.
One of these girls wouldnt risk letting the other one get killed by running or screaming.
Thats my thoughts on the 1 killer theory. I really have no idea if there was just one or if more were involved, but i can see there only being 1 killer. These were 2 tenenaged best friends...one wouldnt risk the life of the other.
FrayedKnot
Chupacabra
Gray Hughes does some of the most amazing digital reenactment vids ever. He has done them for many high profile cases.
Kseniya
Member
1. girls dropped off approx 1:00-1:30 p.m. (where?) by ?
2. photo of Abigail on Bridge taken by Liberty posted at 2:07 p.m.
1. Girls believe "friend" is meeting them at bridge at certain time
1. Suspect lives in Delphi, was in contact with girls via social media (snapchat? facebook?) OR:
2. Suspect has daughter who was invited to go with the girls, was a "snow day" when there was no school, is how he knew. Told daughter no.
3. Suspect uses daughters social media to contact the girls (not phone/voice messages)
4. Suspect gets off highway turns into cemetery and parks has quick access to bridge
5. Suspect walks toward girls on bridge, head looking down to watch for openings in RR ties.
6. Libby sees suspect becomes uncomfortable, possibly finding it unusual he has appeared around time friend was suppose to show up, knows ppl trick kids to meet up with them, takes pic what time???
7. What end of the bridge were the girls on and where on the bridge? At an end of it, in the middle of it? Did he stalk them walking off the bridge or accost them as they were on it?
8. Suspect has "bulge" seen in jacket middle one police video verified as possibility of him carrying a gun, knife, rope, etc.
9. Suspect pulls out gun, threatens girls to "walk single file" ahead of him and if they make "any sudden or funny moves" he'll shoot them, and to not draw attention if another passerby approaches or hell shoot everyone.
10. Suspect gets girls off bridge and they continue in the direction he came from toward the cemetery but angle off toward the property next to it, where the bodies were discovered.
11. Video of "down the hill" they have made out to be "go down the hill" there is a big hill that leads down to where the bodies were located.
12. Suspect murders girls then returns to parking lot where car is parked accessing highway for easy escape.
13. Water by Deer Creek where bodies were found served purpose for cleaning up before walking back to car parked at cemetery in case he ran across anyone, possibly even left clean clothes or other items there prior to taking them there.
OTHER:
1. Suspect lives in Delphi or nearby town.
2. Suspect is self employed
3. Suspect "may" have a family unaware of his deviant "other side" (as is the town, neighbors etc).
3. Suspect has been on the property where bodies were discovered in the past, growing up, why he knows all 3 links between; highway, cemetery, access to bridge from cemetery, access to property and bridge from cemetery.
4. Suspect does NOT know the girls! Liberty would not have taken the photo if she knew him, he is a stranger to her.
5. Prior to the crime, suspect used alibi that he was going out of town (a death in family, business, etc) and camped in the woods in the location nearby. After the crime he left immediately out of town where he plans to lay low.
6. This is not the only time the suspect has committed this type of crime (double murder of two girls), he is probably the same killer in the Seven Bridges murders in Iowa (two girls)- - Possibly works his crimes throughout the Midwest leaving "missing children"
7. Killer is between 30-40 yrs old
8. The place he dumped the bodies the terraine was difficult to reach, and it was luck that searcher(s) "chanced" upon it. It was chosen so that the bodies would not be found, a priority: that he wouldn't get caught, leave evidence.
10. Because he grew up around bridges, woods, hiking trails, it is very likely the Seven Bridges murders can be attributed to him as well, involving 2 girls, and also killing them on the same day of the month; the 13th
SEE VIDEO: Delphi Murders - Theory About Cemetery Link below
NOTE: AND,Where did this Youtube video come from???? Is a ariel view taken by a plane or helicopter, another helicopter can be seen also flying over the cemetery showing a huge presence of police cars, so it was taken after the discovery of the bodies!
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Thanks for posting! this one is a take going in the opposite side of the bridge than this video I've been watched both are interesting. I'm wondering do they even know in what direction he walked them off the bridge? check this video I'm posting here, shows helicopters flying over the cemetery films a mass presence of police, no doubt the day of the discovery of the bodies and speculates on if they went the opposite direction than the direction your video takes, (not going across the creek). I'm wondering WHO posted this video, as it was someone clearly filming the cemetery/police scene from a helicopter
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2. photo of Abigail on Bridge taken by Liberty posted at 2:07 p.m.
1. Girls believe "friend" is meeting them at bridge at certain time
1. Suspect lives in Delphi, was in contact with girls via social media (snapchat? facebook?) OR:
2. Suspect has daughter who was invited to go with the girls, was a "snow day" when there was no school, is how he knew. Told daughter no.
3. Suspect uses daughters social media to contact the girls (not phone/voice messages)
4. Suspect gets off highway turns into cemetery and parks has quick access to bridge
5. Suspect walks toward girls on bridge, head looking down to watch for openings in RR ties.
6. Libby sees suspect becomes uncomfortable, possibly finding it unusual he has appeared around time friend was suppose to show up, knows ppl trick kids to meet up with them, takes pic what time???
7. What end of the bridge were the girls on and where on the bridge? At an end of it, in the middle of it? Did he stalk them walking off the bridge or accost them as they were on it?
8. Suspect has "bulge" seen in jacket middle one police video verified as possibility of him carrying a gun, knife, rope, etc.
9. Suspect pulls out gun, threatens girls to "walk single file" ahead of him and if they make "any sudden or funny moves" he'll shoot them, and to not draw attention if another passerby approaches or hell shoot everyone.
10. Suspect gets girls off bridge and they continue in the direction he came from toward the cemetery but angle off toward the property next to it, where the bodies were discovered.
11. Video of "down the hill" they have made out to be "go down the hill" there is a big hill that leads down to where the bodies were located.
12. Suspect murders girls then returns to parking lot where car is parked accessing highway for easy escape.
13. Water by Deer Creek where bodies were found served purpose for cleaning up before walking back to car parked at cemetery in case he ran across anyone, possibly even left clean clothes or other items there prior to taking them there.
OTHER:
1. Suspect lives in Delphi or nearby town.
2. Suspect is self employed
3. Suspect "may" have a family unaware of his deviant "other side" (as is the town, neighbors etc).
3. Suspect has been on the property where bodies were discovered in the past, growing up, why he knows all 3 links between; highway, cemetery, access to bridge from cemetery, access to property and bridge from cemetery.
4. Suspect does NOT know the girls! Liberty would not have taken the photo if she knew him, he is a stranger to her.
5. Prior to the crime, suspect used alibi that he was going out of town (a death in family, business, etc) and camped in the woods in the location nearby. After the crime he left immediately out of town where he plans to lay low.
6. This is not the only time the suspect has committed this type of crime (double murder of two girls), he is probably the same killer in the Seven Bridges murders in Iowa (two girls)- - Possibly works his crimes throughout the Midwest leaving "missing children"
7. Killer is between 30-40 yrs old
8. The place he dumped the bodies the terraine was difficult to reach, and it was luck that searcher(s) "chanced" upon it. It was chosen so that the bodies would not be found, a priority: that he wouldn't get caught, leave evidence.
10. Because he grew up around bridges, woods, hiking trails, it is very likely the Seven Bridges murders can be attributed to him as well, involving 2 girls, and also killing them on the same day of the month; the 13th
SEE VIDEO: Delphi Murders - Theory About Cemetery Link below
NOTE: AND,Where did this Youtube video come from???? Is a ariel view taken by a plane or helicopter, another helicopter can be seen also flying over the cemetery showing a huge presence of police cars, so it was taken after the discovery of the bodies!
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Thanks for posting! this one is a take going in the opposite side of the bridge than this video I've been watched both are interesting. I'm wondering do they even know in what direction he walked them off the bridge? check this video I'm posting here, shows helicopters flying over the cemetery films a mass presence of police, no doubt the day of the discovery of the bodies and speculates on if they went the opposite direction than the direction your video takes, (not going across the creek). I'm wondering WHO posted this video, as it was someone clearly filming the cemetery/police scene from a helicopter
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that was some very good input Chrystan!
ScribbleMuse
Constant Lurker & Sporadic Mass Poster
Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena keep popping up in my mind. One of the girls had managed to get away from the group of worthless attackers and apparently could have managed to escape entirely but instead, she went back in hopes of helping the other girl. It was one of the more brutal and hideous crimes for me, and I often find them coming to my mind and difficult to ease the grief that the crime creates for me. All murders are unnatural, but there are some that just do more damage to some people than others.
lithiumgirl
Pretty Nice Troll
Rapists and serial killers are ever the opportunists. So not odd at all.
I think he had a gun Or maybe a knife ... he had something that compelled them down the hill for sure and Bob is available in a key chain ... not a bulky rope. It would be easy to subdue two thirteen year olds if you have a weapon and are instructing one or the other to tied the other one up, something we know happens and has happened in other cases.
Kseniya
Member
seriel killers are not so much opportunist, as they "specifically" hunt for their victims by choosing
1. type of victim, sometimes the victims they choose have same similar characteristics of "appearance" even! Same weight/height, same facial features (as with all the victims killed by the Giglo Beach killer,- - also his victims were all prostitutes), and as I just stated victims are all of a specific type (prostitutes, homeless people, children, same height/wieght/hair color etc) the look for their victim, plan their attack, and have a common dumping ground or particular places they like to dump the bodies. They are "organized" vs. disorganized.
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Thanks so much for posting this case ScribbleMuse! I had never heard of that it, just now read about it in Wikipedia. I agree, some "do more damage to people" than others, that's for sure!
[doublepost=1488685602][/doublepost]The investigation into the teens deaths is now going on day 17 and no arrest! You would think someone in Delphi would have recognized the individual in the pic by now, that someone "resembled" him in some manner. UNLESS
1. He is not from Delphi but some other city, county in IN, or even some other sate
2. Liberty's photo is not very clear, but it's been "cleaned up" and there is "a face" that is viisible enough to give a good enough idea of what he looks like, So if no one in Delphi recognizes him, then he must not be from there.
IF he is not from Delphi, this will make finding him difficult, UNLESS
1. He has been in Delphi before in the past, ( how he knew the location of the property he took them to as:
1. a hunter?
2. OR, grew up in Delphi then moved?
3. OR, Has been in Delphi before on business
Maybe all it is going to take is for someone in Delphi to "search their memories' but right now they seem to be concentrating on people that ressemble him that they have seen "now," and not in the past???
The property owner, who owns the property where the girls bodies were discovered, said he has lived on that property for 50 years. He said "his son and his buddies" use to play in that location growing up!!! This man needs to try and remember back as to ALL the people who have been at that location on his property. Personally I think this man's memory, remembering back as to who all has been back there, is what will solve this case
I think the killer was there as a child, moved away, now grown up, no one recognizes him
Kseniya
Member
The police need a tip coming in where someone will say "I know this guy's name or this guy looks like him and lives here or last lived there, or works at this place or that- -a name or place to go find him. This is the type of info they are awaiting in tips. I know one thing and I think most of you might agree with me, the guy disguised himself by wearing layers of clothing "to make himself appear BIGGER than he really is." Why would he do this? In case he came across someone else as he went to meet up with the girls that day? it was 45 degrees and sunny and look how he's dressed! Compare what he's wearing to the light sweater Abigail is wearing in the photo of her Libby took that day. When I downloaded the pic and magnified it, the cleaned up version, his face is not in proportion to he big upper part of his body, which is layers and loose fitting clothing. I think he is a much smaller man, going by the shape of his face and size of his head, he also looks approx in his 30's. Looking straight on at the pic, he appears to have something "bulky" he's carrying on the left side inside of his hoodie jacket. One video I saw (a law enforcement official) said they believed this could be a weapon or weapons he was carrying.
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make yourself more clear by what you mean "giving yourself props"?
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This. I don't care what you post but I found it curious you were replying to yourself and saying you brought up an interesting point.
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Kseniya
Member
I see that "reply" - -that was suppose to be a reply to someone else's post, I must have put it in the box with my previous post, still having problems manuvering on this site,sheesh! sorreeeey, try to bear with me, that was not suppose to be a reply "to myself"
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[doublepost=1488686921][/doublepost]This. I don't care what you post but I found it curious you were replying to yourself and saying you brought up an interesting point.
No I didn't mean I brought up an interesting point" I was replying to someone elses post, but put my reply in my own box by accident i guess. I Wasn't replying "THAT I brought up an interesting point" I would think most ppl would realize it was a error in posting
Try not typing anything in between the quotes. When you quote a post it appears in your message box like this
[quote} what you want to reply to {/quote]
don't type anything in between the two quotes because if you do it appears in the quote box with it.
If that's not clear I apologize, it's late and I'm old and I probably should have let someone else tell you.
[quote} what you want to reply to {/quote]
don't type anything in between the two quotes because if you do it appears in the quote box with it.
If that's not clear I apologize, it's late and I'm old and I probably should have let someone else tell you.
Muriel Schwenck
Beloved Curmudgeon
@Kseniya , you are very enthusiastic obsessive about this thread but your presentation is really confusing. In fact I don't even read your comments, too much trouble to wade through it all.
I recommend you pay to become a bold member. Then you can edit your posts and make them more legible. Slow down, observe, read. DD is super easy to use.
I recommend you pay to become a bold member. Then you can edit your posts and make them more legible. Slow down, observe, read. DD is super easy to use.
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Kseniya
Member
THANK YOU Muriel, I would not know things like this if they were not brought to my attention, "constructive" criticism, is good! Gotcha!
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ok I just hit "reply" and I'm "INSIDE THE BOX" with what you typed, so is this where i am suppose to direct my comments?
Sometimes I click on the POST REPLY, which I can see right now that's located directly underneath this box I'm typing in. and that's when I get my comments "outside" of the box so don't do "outside of the box???" keep them IN THE BOX?
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OK back again- -I saw that although I typed IN the box, my comment ended up OUTSIDE of the box
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I'M CONFUSSED!!!!!!!!!!!! WILL SOMEONE TYPE THE STEPS (1. 2. 3.) TELLING ME HOW TO DO THIS CORRECTLY? PLEASSSE
And thanks again Cubby!
Muriel Schwenck
Beloved Curmudgeon
Investigation into murder of Carroll County teens heads into day 17
http://wishtv.com/2017/03/03/investigation-into-murder-of-carroll-county-teens-heads-into-day-17/
Now day 19/
I keep coming here with the expectant hope to find that there has been a break in the case.out:
http://wishtv.com/2017/03/03/investigation-into-murder-of-carroll-county-teens-heads-into-day-17/
Now day 19/
I keep coming here with the expectant hope to find that there has been a break in the case.
out:
TaupinJohn
Active Member
@Mata Hari I'm sorry, I haven't been on since posting that. It was, as Lithiumgirl ^^ said ^^ --(and I'm glad you did, LG, because I've read so much from so many sites, I wasn't looking forward to going back to find one that specified that!)
The way the officer put it, when explaining why they couldn't "put out more of the recording" is what told me there was more. Also, I'm guessing it's mostly audio, because at some point she would've been unable to hold the camera in a position to capture video, particularly without his knowledge.
I keep wondering if there was more than one. I'm guessing that, if there were another, any shots of him would, too, be out there for public identification?
The one who posted about the difficulty of maneuvering the bridge (the spaces between the ties, etc.) It does look like Abby is having a bit of a problem doing that, as the picture Libby posted of her shows her looking down at her feet, as if she's kind of watching the ground as she walks.
This case! It couldn't be more terrible for anyone; the victims, the families, hell the families of kids in Delphi. They've got to be terrified at this point.
Also: The killer must be absolutely shitting as the reward went from what, 16K to 200K!! Had to be an "Oh fuck" moment in his life. More to come, asshole.
I can almost see mothers turning in sons for a quarter of million dollars. So it's no stretch to think a casual acquaintance wouldn't have any problem at all. I'll bet there's a bunch of people wishing they know who this creeper is, hopefully someone gets the reward and soon.
ChaosKitty
Queen Bitch From Hell
In this case I don't think so at all. I do think it could have been one individual as he would have threatened to kill one if the other did anything like tried to escape. Right now it is hard to say.
Now for a regurgitated reiteration with added points of things already said: there's an edit button at the bottom of every thing you have ever posted now that you can click and go in and delete huge swatches of crap that has been already said, repeated or belonging to someone else's post and keep the bare bones of their comment that makes sense to what you are replying to, or things that just don't belong. This thread is specifically for 2 murdered girls not how to post properly.
the former NFL player and Colts owner popped it over the top might be the clincher, I was going to post this as soon as it came out but was distracted when I came in here.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-player-raises-reward-catch-monster-teen-girls/story?id=45882414
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