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no, and I have been looking, another house was searched but that individual too was taken off the list
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It has been 14 days now since they discovered the girls bodies and nothing!

I honestly think LE will make an arrest soon.

I did not list this FORCE as a "suspect!"

And even if you did ... so what. The suspect was being driven by something ... and this something was and is evil.
 
The parents must be going insane.
Even under the clearest circumstances, with unassailable evidence, no parent would be much better. Their girls are senselessly dead. How horrible is that? And the sister who dropped them off for a day hike, in an area where many people go. On a mild winter day, when other people were out for some fresh air....
Never a day will pass for the rest of her life, sister won't have some thought, a dream, a nightmare, "I drove the girls to the park that day...." Poor thing. That's truly haunted.
 
Even under the clearest circumstances, with unassailable evidence, no parent would be much better.

I can't pretend to know - I can only imagine, that knowing the man or woman who did this to my kid and her best friend was still out walking around somewhere would make me so fucking mad.
 
knowing the man or woman who did this to my kid and her best friend was still out walking around somewhere would make me so fucking mad.

WORD ... its terrifying that he was walking around the day before that too, and the day before.
On the verge of killing someone. I think the Police know who did it.
 
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Even under the clearest circumstances, with unassailable evidence, no parent would be much better. Their girls are senselessly dead. How horrible is that? And the sister who dropped them off for a day hike, in an area where many people go. On a mild winter day, when other people were out for some fresh air....
Never a day will pass for the rest of her life, sister won't have some thought, a dream, a nightmare, "I drove the girls to the park that day...." Poor thing. That's truly haunted.
[doublepost=1488328406,1488327942][/doublepost]I was curious as to why the suspect was so heavily dressed, like in layers under his jacket and the Abigail in her pic on the bridge is only wearing a light sweater, so I looked up the weather that day and it was 45 degrees! For February, Nice and SUNNY (sun adds to warmth) so what was he doing all BUNDLED UP other than for any other reason but to purposely disguise himself?! As to his disgusing himself like this, with BULKY LOOSE fitting clothing, I hate to say it, but the picture does not give much for anyone to go by really. The only thing we can really see is bulky loose fitting pants and over padded jacket, (another shirt or jacket?) underneath it, all making him look bigger than he really is maybe? All we can see is pants, and jacket coming down the bridge, with no real view of the face. I took a magnifying glass to the face and could see it a bit better, but my dumb magnifying glass is a cheap-o and has a light on it. Anyone got a magnifying glass will you try it and see if you can see better? He looks between age 30-early 40's to me.
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I keep thinking of Liberty having the presence of mind to record it...had to be in an effort to identify him later. I've probably said this before, but when someone dies in such fear it just hurts me for so long.
Like Shari Smith (17) who's murderer (Larry Gene Bell) made her write her parents before he killed her. In the letter she specified "closed casket." Somehow, she knew she was going to die horribly (and she did.)

The thoughts of someone being as scared as Libby had to be, yet doing something so amazing... no telling she'd have grown up to be.

I think they'll solve this through DNA. Taking two girls at once wasn't a first-timer's MO. Bet he's in the DNA database already. And he'd have left some behind, because he doesn't seem terribly bright Not taking their phones, etc.) They'll get him
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WORD ... its terrifying that he was walking around the day before that too, and the day before.
On the verge of killing someone. I think the Police know who did it.
[doublepost=1488329277][/doublepost]I think it's HORRIFYING to KNOW he is STiLL WALKING AROUND somewhere out there.....and there will be MORE VICTIMS, unless he is caught, that is so friggin scary!!! I hope they get this sick freak fuck soon! Since this case has happened I can't think of nothing else! It's on my mind day in and day out. So wanting them to catch him, so frustrated they haven't. Can't imagine how the parents are feeling!!
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I keep thinking of Liberty having the presence of mind to record it...had to be in an effort to identify him later. I've probably said this before, but when someone dies in such fear it just hurts me for so long.
Like Shari Smith (17) who's murderer (Larry Gene Bell) made her write her parents before he killed her. In the letter she specified "closed casket." Somehow, she knew she was going to die horribly (and she did.)

The thoughts of someone being as scared as Libby had to be, yet doing something so amazing... no telling she'd have grown up to be.

I think they'll solve this through DNA. Taking two girls at once wasn't a first-timer's MO. Bet he's in the DNA database already. And he'd have left some behind, because he doesn't seem terribly bright Not taking their phones, etc.) They'll get him
[doublepost=1488330652][/doublepost]IN RE to Taupin's comment how Liberty had to "THE PRESENCE OF MIND" set to record his voice, I was just thinking about that today. I'm thinking she had the phone in her pocket and is why it didn't come out real clear. But I was also thinking about her having the presence of mind to take the photo of him BEFORE he abducted them. What made her do this? Then I imagined the two girls on the bridge, possibly waiting to meet up with a friend, lets say he possibly got hold of them through social media, made them think he was a kid and would meet them there. Possibly how he knew they'd be there. But maybe that's why they hung around on the bridge so long. But anyway...They see "a stranger" coming on the bridge. How many times are little girls nowdays "TOLD" about "STRANGER DANGER!!!" I'm thinking Libby was not comfortable when she saw him, but they waited and hung around anyway. They waited long enough to allow him to get as close as he did to take the pic we now have and appears to be somewhat close behind them. So I think she was feeling uneasy about his presence and decided to take his pic while they were (standing?) there waiting??? If they would have left as soon as they saw him approach "onto" the bridge, used the phone to call 911, the outcome of this might have turned out different it is WHY they always teach kids STRANGER DANGER, recognize strangers and RUN!!! I'm thinking Libby knew this, was uncomfortable with being on the bridge as he slowly made his approach and this was why she photographed him, her intuiIion. I think she knew it was not a good idea to remain on the bridge with him coming, "stranger danger" If you call got kids REINFORCE THIS! stranger danger means you RUN!
[doublepost=1488330859][/doublepost]I would like to THANK YOU ALLfor being so patient and bearing with me, as I am NEW here. Still haven't got the swing of navigating around herE and NO I don't know how to use the quotes feature, or alot of other things yet. Someone tells me FUCK YOU, I'll tell them fuck you, back, I don't play sarcasm. I won't instigate a fight, but I won't back down from one either.
 
At the RISK of putting myself up to RIDICULE especially after JAKE88 made numerous comments accussing me that MY COMMENTS came off sounding like I was "a psychic" (after his reading the conversations between me and another member)- -intuition, not psychic! And I think everyone has this ability to different degrees, some people better than others, what me and this other member were [comparing notes] for which Jake88 read. But here's the deal, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I've had this happen before in a case and I turned out to be right, but failed "to act" on my intution! I failed to act because I thought the cops would think I was crazy! I didn't know how to answer "how I knew" ("I don't know, I just know"????!!!!) so I didn't. Sometimes my intuition is RIGHT ON! Sometimes it's off by a little bit, sometimes it's total off! But, I relax, think of questions, wait for "the first word that pops into my head." Out of a bunch of questions, not all will be right, might just be off a bit. But when I thought "what's his name?" CARL (I ask the question over and over in my head till the word pops into my head), not a name many guys have now days, an "older" name. Second question "what state is he IN, is said "IN" not from, like "where is he right now." this is when i was astounded and knew I was on track cause I got NEBRASKA, out of the all 50 states, if asked to name as many as I could, Nebraska is one of the few state I would miss, as in pass over! So that told me right then and there I was on the right track! Then the next question "what city is he FROM" (not IN but FROM) and I got Fort Wayne! I was like WTF! so I immediately ran to the Internet and typed in Fort Wayne, Nebraska. I later discovered there was NO FORT WAYNE NEBRASKA but there IS a FORT WAYNE INDIANA and guess what?!!! IT'S RIGHT BY DELPHI INDIANA!!!!!!!!!!!! I googled the directions between both and it's 2 hrs from Delphi Indiana! I was not even looking for it (thought it was non existant since it wasn't in Nebraska) then when I was looking at city of Delphi on the Map I saw it! Blew me away!!! But MY THEORY has been the killer has been on the property the girls were discovered [as a child growing up], he didn't "chance" upon this location (not even if he was a hunter)- -He had prior knowledge of it. He chose it because it was a place he felt "comfortable" with to do what he did. Comfortable he wouldn't be discovered, or the bodies would be discovered, to avoid being caught, his #1 priority! A relative of the property owner's kids, cousin, or maybe even friends of the property owners kids, The property owner said: "My SON, WHEN HE WAS A KID, HE AND HIS BUDDIES HAD A PLACE IN HERE ALL THE TIME ,” Pointing in the direction the bodies were found to a news caster in interview!) in this link http://wlfi.com/2017/02/16/delphi-property-owner-speaks-to-news-18-after-bodies-found-in-backyard/
It's just not enough to go on, if he's "in or from" either place, without a name, even with a photograph, I can see now how difficult it is going to be to find if he's in another city or state without a name to go by.
 
At the RISK of putting myself up to RIDICULE especially after JAKE88 made numerous comments accussing me that MY COMMENTS came off sounding like I was "a psychic" (after his reading the conversations between me and another member)- -intuition, not psychic! And I think everyone has this ability to different degrees, some people better than others, what me and this other member were [comparing notes] for which Jake88 read. But here's the deal, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I've had this happen before in a case and I turned out to be right, but failed "to act" on my intution! I failed to act because I thought the cops would think I was crazy! I didn't know how to answer "how I knew" ("I don't know, I just know"????!!!!) so I didn't. Sometimes my intuition is RIGHT ON! Sometimes it's off by a little bit, sometimes it's total off! But, I relax, think of questions, wait for "the first word that pops into my head." Out of a bunch of questions, not all will be right, might just be off a bit. But when I thought "what's his name?" CARL (I ask the question over and over in my head till the word pops into my head), not a name many guys have now days, an "older" name. Second question "what state is he IN, is said "IN" not from, like "where is he right now." this is when i was astounded and knew I was on track cause I got NEBRASKA, out of the all 50 states, if asked to name as many as I could, Nebraska is one of the few state I would miss, as in pass over! So that told me right then and there I was on the right track! Then the next question "what city is he FROM" (not IN but FROM) and I got Fort Wayne! I was like WTF! so I immediately ran to the Internet and typed in Fort Wayne, Nebraska. I later discovered there was NO FORT WAYNE NEBRASKA but there IS a FORT WAYNE INDIANA and guess what?!!! IT'S RIGHT BY DELPHI INDIANA!!!!!!!!!!!! I googled the directions between both and it's 2 hrs from Delphi Indiana! I was not even looking for it (thought it was non existant since it wasn't in Nebraska) then when I was looking at city of Delphi on the Map I saw it! Blew me away!!! But MY THEORY has been the killer has been on the property the girls were discovered [as a child growing up], he didn't "chance" upon this location (not even if he was a hunter)- -He had prior knowledge of it. He chose it because it was a place he felt "comfortable" with to do what he did. Comfortable he wouldn't be discovered, or the bodies would be discovered, to avoid being caught, his #1 priority! A relative of the property owner's kids, cousin, or maybe even friends of the property owners kids, The property owner said: "My SON, WHEN HE WAS A KID, HE AND HIS BUDDIES HAD A PLACE IN HERE ALL THE TIME ,” Pointing in the direction the bodies were found to a news caster in interview!) in this link http://wlfi.com/2017/02/16/delphi-property-owner-speaks-to-news-18-after-bodies-found-in-backyard/
It's just not enough to go on, if he's "in or from" either place, without a name, even with a photograph, I can see now how difficult it is going to be to find if he's in another city or state without a name to go by.


I knew what you were doing. The whole forum could tell you were describing your speculation as something more. Sorry if you felt attacked. Here's a strong intuition of mine: I think people might actually read your posts if they were in paragraph form. Yeah, the force is strong with that one...
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(after his reading the conversations between me and another member)

Lastly, stop trying to act like I'm invading your personal conversations. This is an open forum, anything you say... is open for everyone! It's open season year round in the forums...
 
No Hard feelings :)<3
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You'll fit right in... just don't fuck with me! I know voodoo...
[doublepost=1488335899][/doublepost]But your just TOO MUCH FUN! :playful: I am sorry for being such a cunt, and thanks so much for telling me I'll fit in, I really appreciated that! cause I really <3 this site!!! And ALL of ya!
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No Hard feelings :)<3
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[doublepost=1488335899][/doublepost]But your just TOO MUCH FUN! :playful: I am sorry for being such a cunt, and thanks so much for telling me I'll fit in, I really appreciated that! cause I really <3 this site!!! And ALL of ya!
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No Hard feelings :)<3
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[doublepost=1488335899][/doublepost]But your just TOO MUCH FUN! :playful: I am sorry for being such a cunt, and thanks so much for telling me I'll fit in, I really appreciated that! cause I really <3 this site!!! And ALL of ya!
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But your just TOO MUCH FUN! I am sorry for being such a cunt, and thanks so much for telling me I'll fit in, I really appreciated that! cause I really this site!!! And ALL of ya!

If you're friends with me here... you're not going to fit in with everyone else lol! But to quote properly, If you're on a desktop or a laptop...

You just have to highlight the text you want to quote with your mouse, and then just click on it once(While it is highlighted) and a little red box should appear that says "quote selection" and then click on that box... that's how I do it anyway.
[doublepost=1488337546,1488337384][/doublepost]And make sure that YOUR writing, goes OUTSIDE of the part that says:

quote="Jake88, post: 1057307, member: 15934"] This text for example [/quote]

Make sure your text is AFTER that second [/quote] Because if you type inside that quote box, your own words will be quoted within the other members quote making it look like one big quote...


[doublepost=1488337802][/doublepost]MY BAD JADED. I swear I'm done derailing, I thought that would be beneficial to all..
 
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Just read that the FBI estimates that there are between 25 and 50 serial killers operating throughout the U.S. at any given time!
If you're friends with me here... you're not going to fit in with everyone else lol! But to quote properly, If you're on a desktop or a laptop...

You just have to highlight the text you want to quote with your mouse, and then just click on it once(While it is highlighted) and a little red box should appear that says "quote selection" and then click on that box... that's how I do it anyway.
[doublepost=1488337546,1488337384][/doublepost]And make sure that YOUR writing, goes OUTSIDE of the part that says:

quote="Jake88, post: 1057307, member: 15934"] This text for example

Make sure your text is AFTER that second [/quote] Because if you type inside that quote box, your own words will be quoted within the other members quote making it look like one big quote...


[doublepost=1488337802][/doublepost]MY BAD JADED. I swear I'm done derailing, I thought that would be beneficial to all..[/QUOTE]
[doublepost=1488348364][/doublepost]Thanks Jake for the info, your a darling! I got this brand new lap top computer here at Christmas and I swear it's smarter than me. I've just been clicking on "reply." I been wondering why i see things posted again and again is that me doing that????
[doublepost=1488349607][/doublepost]HELP! Everytime I go to answer a post I hit the REPLY I see the post then click "POST REPLY" and get an empty box with my profile am I doing this right???? I'm noticing I'm double posting!!!!!!! Why is this?
[doublepost=1488349740][/doublepost]Am I suppose to be answering the reply to the person I wish to reply to INSIDE the BOX with that perons comment? after the {quotations}?
 
This conversation would probably be better off in Site Suggestions or Troubleshooting, @Kseniya. Plenty of folks in the forums would be more than happy to help you out, I'm sure.
 
R U 4 REAL?!!! :mad:
Yes, I am. There are quite a few people interested in this case.... you know, the two dead girls that are the topic of this thread. If you are having issues with quoting and replying, the proper forum is in Site Suggestions or Troubleshooting.

Any further comments you have that are not related to this particular case are going to be deleted.
 
I see "some people" are putting some "real effort" into the Abigail Williams/Liberty German case here!
Anyway, getting back to business here; this news article says "Abby and Liberty’s bodies were found IN "a creek." I knew "near" a creak but are they now saying "in it?"
and said: Liberty also captured footage of a creepy stalker in jeans "after growing uneasy about him."
This news source is also saying: the case has become known as THE SNAPCHAT MURDERS
 
Anyway, getting back to business here; this news article says "Abby and Liberty’s bodies were found IN "a creek." I knew "near" a creak but are they now saying "in it?"
and said: Liberty also captured footage of a creepy stalker in jeans "after growing uneasy about him."
This news source is also saying: the case has become known as THE SNAPCHAT MURDERS
Can you post a link to this?
 
Can you post a link to this?

Here you go, and I checked and you can find other news stories under The Snapchat Murders, not a whole lot out there though
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2976311/abby-williams-libby-german-snapchat-murder-tips-reward/
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Here you go, and I checked and you can find other news stories under The Snapchat Murders, not a whole lot out there though
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2976311/abby-williams-libby-german-snapchat-murder-tips-reward/
[doublepost=1488352980][/doublepost]I was reading earlier about this one seriel killer Dale R. Anderson, killed a Belleville IL woman reporter and a bunch of other women, too tired to look up how many right now, a number of them were found in or near creeks, I wonder what is with these sick fucks and creeks?! And here too, the girls were left "in or near" a creek as well.
 
Every morning I check for updates and there's just nothing more (that they're releasing.) I completely get why they're being close-lipped about what may be on that phone recording.

I wonder how the parents are feeling about that in particular: the fact that some or all of the attack was recorded. Remembering when Steve Irwin died while filming, and they gave his wife the only copy of the death that existed. She said she watched it once, then destroyed it (mostly for fear someone would make it public if she didn't.)

If it were my child (ugh) I know that I couldn't NOT watch it, I'd have to know. But whatever was on it would haunt me until I breathed my last.
For that reason, I hope most of it was not captured; if the DNA points to someone and he's the guy from the picture, they won't need a video of it to convict him.

I usually fear a case will grow cold and unsolved, but this one not so much. With this one I don't think so, mostly because of the brevity and presence of mind of Liberty German in her last hours.

Again, I think the killer's DNA will be on record, this couldn't have been his first time. Once he's identified, it'll be a race to see who'll find him first: the police or the public (including fathers.... lots of them.)

He'd better pray it's the cops.


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noun: liberty
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t MY COMMENTS came off sounding like I was "a psychic"
Who cares ...some of us have really good radios and some of us do not. I have a great radio. Other wise supposing is how anything gets done anyway.
This news source is also saying: the case has become known as THE SNAPCHAT MURDERS
I want to slap the person that ever uttered these words ... wrote them down. Yes i do, I kind of want to punch them right in the mouth.
Every morning I check for updates and there's just nothing more
Me too! <3
 
I have to wonder how much of the recorded information was released. The police will keep some information to themselves to secure their investigation.
 
I belong to a Facebook group that exists solely to discuss the murder of these girls; it was getting so bananas that the mods finally had to clamp down. Now only mods can post fresh posts, but everyone is free to comment on those posts.

Anyway, the bottom line is that there are no real updates--only speculations. The biggest bit of "news" is that an employee at a Chrysler plant in Kokomo was interviewed and willingly gave DNA this week, but he wasn't formerly arrested. Whether or not he is suspected in the girls' murders remains unknown. His name is Jimmy Duvall and he was convicted of a sex crime against a pre-teen girl in the '80s; he served his time and is now free. He has some questionable things on his Facebook page, like a meme showing a creepy clown that says "violets are blue, your blood is red, your window was open...I'm under your bed!" and a graphic that says "My doctor told me to start killing people. Well not those exact words. He said I had to reduce the stress in my life. Same thing." There are lots of rumors circulating about this guy in the group and I'm not sure if any are valid.

A number of folks in the group phoned in tips, too, including some that seem quite promising.

Another member visited the bridge itself and posted some photos of it. What's interesting is that the photos show large gaps between the railroad ties. She wrote, "A few steps out and I had major vertigo and couldn't walk any further. Some of the slats are so far from each other, and you can see straight down to the creek. If the girls and killer were on the bridge at the same time, I can't imagine anyone running on the bridge without tripping." I know there has been some speculation along the lines of, "If they were suspicious enough of him to take his photo/shoot video, why didn't they turn around and run away?" Seeing the bridge made me realize how difficult this would be. I'm not afraid of heights and I have no qualms with things like walking on rope bridges or glass bridges over canyons, but I think the distance between those ties would honestly make even me nervous. I'd have to walk slowly and carefully. Running would be out of the question. I don't know how far they had gotten across the bridge at that point; maybe they were smack dab in the middle and turned around and tried to run/speed walk away but tripped in the gap between ties. Or maybe they realized how dangerous it could be and opted to walk slowly and carefully, and he was able to catch up with them because they had quite a distance to go.
 
ON THIS NEWS SITE: "They revealed they had more clips from Liberty’s phone, but said they were holding them back because they don’t want to “poison” the quality of any tips they receive."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29520...pect-before-being-killed-and-dumped-in-creek/
[doublepost=1488431768,1488430938][/doublepost]The reward is now up to $211K and I been tweeting these articles with pics of this creep on Twitter to keep the news out You can find news on this at #delphigirls on Twitter.
 
Lol I hope you're not expecting anyone to seriously answer that! But I'll bite. I suppose if I did... it would be to Amaze and Wow people!
Haha, yes, @Jake88, that was a rhetorical question... Just serving the purpose of showing my internal monologue around that subject.

Your "Amaze" & "wow" made me chuckle, though.

I pictured an exchange like this:
Me: Jesus Christ, Jake, don't scare me and these other people with your jiggly bits like that! It's frightening and offensive!
You: oh, I'm so sorry! I was going for amazement and awe.
;)
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Also @Kseniya you need to take your ghost stories the fuck out of here. These girls are dead..... Your fantasies of *dark evil energies* can fuck off to some site like unexplained mysteries.... Its a good site.

Sorry/not sorry

Regarding the crime, let's stick to facts and not fantasy. When it comes to dreaming up demonic punishments for the perp/s, go nuts.

Don't see how fucking ghost stories are gonna help at all. Start a different thread for that shit.

Not my site, so whatever.

Need more info, but I'm sure evil ghost don't have fuck all to do with it

Dude... Settle down. No need to rage at a newbie over something so trivial, is there? I'm sure that part you wrote that I helpfully italicized and bolded would've gotten the point across without telling someone new to just plain old fuck off. o_O (and in the next sentence, you acknowledge that you shouldn't even care???) Just ignoring the wildly stupid shit people sometimes write is also an option. It doesn't mean they always write stupid shit or that they're stupid... But that not all stupid posts require responses.

I had to reply to this one bc I'm just tired of seeing regulars being too rude to newbies who aren't being trolls. Cool?
 
I belong to a Facebook group that exists solely to discuss the murder of these girls; it was getting so bananas that the mods finally had to clamp down. Now only mods can post fresh posts, but everyone is free to comment on those posts.

Anyway, the bottom line is that there are no real updates--only speculations. The biggest bit of "news" is that an employee at a Chrysler plant in Kokomo was interviewed and willingly gave DNA this week, but he wasn't formerly arrested. Whether or not he is suspected in the girls' murders remains unknown. His name is Jimmy Duvall and he was convicted of a sex crime against a pre-teen girl in the '80s; he served his time and is now free. He has some questionable things on his Facebook page, like a meme showing a creepy clown that says "violets are blue, your blood is red, your window was open...I'm under your bed!" and a graphic that says "My doctor told me to start killing people. Well not those exact words. He said I had to reduce the stress in my life. Same thing." There are lots of rumors circulating about this guy in the group and I'm not sure if any are valid.

A number of folks in the group phoned in tips, too, including some that seem quite promising.

Another member visited the bridge itself and posted some photos of it. What's interesting is that the photos show large gaps between the railroad ties. She wrote, "A few steps out and I had major vertigo and couldn't walk any further. Some of the slats are so far from each other, and you can see straight down to the creek. If the girls and killer were on the bridge at the same time, I can't imagine anyone running on the bridge without tripping." I know there has been some speculation along the lines of, "If they were suspicious enough of him to take his photo/shoot video, why didn't they turn around and run away?" Seeing the bridge made me realize how difficult this would be. I'm not afraid of heights and I have no qualms with things like walking on rope bridges or glass bridges over canyons, but I think the distance between those ties would honestly make even me nervous. I'd have to walk slowly and carefully. Running would be out of the question. I don't know how far they had gotten across the bridge at that point; maybe they were smack dab in the middle and turned around and tried to run/speed walk away but tripped in the gap between ties. Or maybe they realized how dangerous it could be and opted to walk slowly and carefully, and he was able to catch up with them because they had quite a distance to go.

So can you clue us in? What's the site?
 
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