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Mansfield, Mass – Police received two calls from a Mansfield home early Friday morning. The first was to say that a man with a history of mental illness, 35-year-old Kristopher Griffin, had intentions of harming himself. The second call that came in moments after the first was to say that they had found a note inside a mobile home Griffin had been living in on the property. It asked for “forgiveness for sending Katie to heaven.” When police arrived on the scene, they found Griffin waling down the street barefoot with blood on his face and shirt. They also found his 6-year-old daughter Kaitlynn, dead in the basement of the home. She had been covered with a sheet and her throat had been slit.

God Made Kristopher Griffin Slit His Daughters ThroatWhen police questioned Griffin, asking him if he had harmed anyone, he stated that he had killed his little girl. That the only way he could save her, according to God, was to murder her. Griffin, who had recently separated from the girl’s mother, then begged cops to shoot him. Griffin has a history of mental illness, having been hospitalized as recently as two weeks ago – around the same time him and his girlfriend split up. He is being held without bail and will be evaluated to see if he is fit to stand trial.

Just a side note, but if you watch the video below, you will hear a neighbor talk about camping in Jimbo’s backyard and make mention about glasses or some shit. Luckily the site that had the video transcribed the woman for me because I played that shit back four times before giving up. What neighbor Donna O’Neil says is, “We go camping in Jimbo’s backyard, my son and I. And we look up and she’s always looking out the window and talking to us, you know the little girl, ‘Hi, how are you?’ She’s only six and it’s really sad. You know with the brown curls and the glasses, it’s really sad that this had to happen.” I’m not sure exactly what she is implying with the brown curls and glasses comment, but it seemed like she was meaning that she felt bad that the girl was ugly on top of having her throat slit by her mentally ill father.

Could one of you believers please have a talk with God about this? I mean, I thought he stopped these type of shenanigans with Abraham.

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God Made Kristopher Griffin Slit His Daughters Throat
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  • http://myspace.com/tricia381 Tricia

    that is so fucking sad! why cant these assholes just kill themselves without hurting innocent children in the process??

    I have an almost 8 year old named Caitlynn. So sad to think this Kaitlynn’s life was cut short by her father, of all people.

  • RiotBoots

    Shitty thing is because he’s a nut bag he will be put in an area with other nutbags and probably won’t have much shit to deal with. He’ll get his meds, eat better and not have to work.

  • shadowman

    I think he’s faking. It may be he was molesting her, ya know? The autopsy will answer that question.

  • TheOne

    He never molested his Daughter jerk he was off his med he was a good guy and a great father I know him and what he did was wrong there were other ways he could have saved her please stop saying these things

  • PinkiGreen

    Great fathers and good guys don’t kill their kids.

    What an asshole. What the hell did he think he was saving her from?

  • TheOne

    she was being molested by her mothers other son and they planned to move to another state so he wouldn’t be able to protect her he was off his meds so shut the fuck up about what you know nothing about

  • Aslan

    Hey there TheOne

    1) he was on medication
    2) he made the choice to not take it
    3) he MURDERED his daughter

    Did I miss anything?

  • Aslan

    Oh and if he was so freaked out about her being moved out of state and not being able to protect her…
    I’m sorry her mom didn’t haul ass with her a week ago.

  • mommacrazy30

    so there are meds you can take that stop you from killing kids?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    she was being molested by her mothers other son and they planned to move to another state so he wouldn’t be able to protect her

    You know, nothing he did excuses the fact that he murdered a little girl, but if that is true, the does add an interesting layer to the story. But I would still question how the mother would be able to take custody of Kaitlyn if Kaitlyn was being molested. Was this allegation even substantiated?

  • cassidymarie83

    TheOne, at least you say he WAS a good guy because he sure as hell isn’t now.
    You seem close to him and if you knew Kaitlyn then I am sorry for your loss. If you knew she was being molested (which you obviously do) then maybe you should have done something about that. Reporting the molestation would have saved her, not slitting her throat.
    ‘Killing her to save her’ doesn’t make any sense and I’m sure you know that deep down defending this man isn’t the right thing to be doing.

  • bekind

    Ok..just wanted to simply say that I have a younger brother who suffers with mental illness and its really sad and hard to watch to sometimes. Sometimes it can be scary. However I do not love him any less than I ever have. Hes still my brother and I know HE is a great person, its just that mental illness that is a bitch. not my brother. Not him…just something right inside him…get it? So just keep that in mind.

  • TheOne

    look the other son who was molesting her was in custody at an undisclosed place for minors for sometime but i guess the release date was coming up and the mother was going to take him back into the house and move none of this excuses what he did i just want you all to know why. He was sick and he was a good father and he is my friend I pray for him and his daughter every night and ty bekind for informing these uninformed people what it is to have an illness

  • cassidymarie83

    I’m sorry if I came off rude.
    My father in law suffers from schizophrenia, dimensia (sp) and is also blind and in a wheel chair. He lives with us and if he wasn’t blind and in a wheel chair then we would all be in danger. His meds do not help him the way they should. And I will say he USED to be a good person, now all he hears is satan and jesus christ telling him to do bad things, some days are good, some are not.
    So yes, I understand mental illness, I live around it every day.
    It wouldn’t excuse anything if he did something this horrible…schizophrenia makes people into monsters, I know this. He is not the same person he used to be, plain and simple…maybe someday the doctors will get his meds right.

  • Zibarro

    theone says:

    he never molested his Daughter jerk he was off his med he was a good guy and a great father I know him and what he did was wrong there were other ways he could have saved her please stop saying these things

    she was being molested by her mothers other son and they planned to move to another state so he wouldn’t be able to protect her he was off his meds so shut the fuck up about what you know nothing about

    look the other son who was molesting her was in custody at an undisclosed place for minors for sometime but i guess the release date was coming up and the mother was going to take him back into the house and move none of this excuses what he did i just want you all to know why. He was sick and he was a good father and he is my friend I pray for him and his daughter every night and ty bekind for informing these uninformed people what it is to have an illness

    If what YOU say is true – then the “mental illness” crap is just hyperbole. It’s a fucking excuse for doing what thousands of father’s and husbands have done for as long as I can remember. He knew his ex was going to take her and he killed her so she couldn’t. “If I can’t have you, nobody can”. Molestation or not. He used his mental illness to make sure his ex never took his daughter. He *chose* not to take his meds (perhaps part of his master plan)

    Asshole. Murdering asshole.

    RIP Kaitlyn

  • Little Pea

    If he was off his meds and that unstable…well wasn’t anyone worried about her being in his care?

    What he did is vile.

    And all of the allegations of her being molested by someone else are just that as far as I am concerned. That story, as told, doesn’t make sense to me. And it still does not excuse what he did. Was it because God told him to or because he was protecting her from possible molestation, or God told him to so he could protect her…confusing.

    Rest in Peace Child.

  • Sir Geoff

    If it was proven the mom’s boyfriend was molesting her I don’t see how the authorities would let her have the child back. Did this father go to the police? Is there a record of a report or just another figment of his mind? If I was a dad who felt hopeless in that type of situation, I’d murder the SOB molesting my daughter and face going to prison for killing a POS and getting him off this earth rather than kill her!

  • boilly

    He never molested his Daughter jerk he was off his med he was a good guy and a great father I know him and what he did was wrong there were other ways he could have saved her please stop saying these things

    hahahaha! This is great! A good guy and a great father? I think if you look that up in the dictionary you won’t find this crazy fucker’s face. Pull your head out and stop standing up for a crazy moron who killed this little girl. How could she possible defend herself? What chance did she have? I don’t care what his excuse is I just hope he’s left alone with a rope and a chair so he can do society a favor.

  • Siobhan

    My father in law suffers from schizophrenia, dimensia (sp) and is also blind and in a wheel chair. He lives with us and if he wasn’t blind and in a wheel chair then we would all be in danger. His meds do not help him the way they should. And I will say he USED to be a good person, now all he hears is satan and jesus christ telling him to do bad things, some days are good, some are not.
    So yes, I understand mental illness, I live around it every day.

    I’m right there with you cassidymarie83. :sad:
    My father also suffered from schizophrenia with severe depression, and I too know first hand of how devastating mental illnesses are for both the patient and the family/loved ones, often affecting many generations.
    It was so very hard to watch a brilliant man slowly unravel into what was an almost child like state, and the anti-psychotic meds of 35+ years ago took a further toll on his mental awareness and cardiovascular system.

    Although, I have to say that even in the throes of his worst hallucinations, he never ever considered harming anyone, especially not his children.
    Usually it would be something passive, like seeing Jesus in the bathroom performing baptisms in the hand sink, and did anyone else happen to notice the beautiful sandals and robe JC was wearing?

  • TheOne

    Sir Jeff learn how to read moron it was the mother son from a previous marriage who molested her and Boily what he did was wrong i know that dip shit there were other things he could have done and should have done but as i have stated he was sick and off his meds some people on here actually understand that Little pea they are not allegations they are true and her son is in juvi for molesting her so don’t talk about what you don’t know and Zibarro just fuck off “masterplan” he wasn’t thinking clearly obviously I’ve seen them both together and they loved each other your the asshole for casting judgment on someone you don’t even know God will judge him in the end that’s all that matters as for Katie she was a sweet innocent girl who had a shitty brother and a Father who made the biggest mistake of his life it’s tragic and it sucks and it doesn’t effect you as it effects me and the other people that new her and know the Family so all of you idiots shut up about what you know nothing about you believe everything you read in the papers lmao you don’t know jack or shit for that matter

  • MadeaBecBec

    We know that Kristopher Griffin murdered his daughter, Kaitlynn, because Kristopher said he did it and in case you theOne, haven’t noticed, here on earth, Kristopher Griffin will most certainly be judged, either by a Juror or Jury, if Kristopher Griffin pleads guilty, then he will be sentenced too, ummm, here on earth and hopefully, to a maximum prison cell, where he will slowly rot! He played the role of Judge and Jury and sentenced his own daughter to death and therefore he should receive the same and when he dies, I have faith that God will not greet him with a “Well done, child”
    And, I am fully aware of mental illness, especially Bi-polar disorders and schizophrenia, they are not the same, but both are manageable if the prescribed meds are taken. Schizophrenia meds are a bit more troublesome to assess and correct dosages are key to manageability, however, it is treatable.
    Kristopher Griffin is Bi-polar, he knows this, it’s not like he was unaware of his symptoms, as in first being diagnosed or hospitalized. Bi-polar meds, when taken as prescribed, easily stablize any symptoms a manic may have, Kristopher Griffin knows that, too! No excuse for not taking them, as there are many programs available to aid anyone! He made a critical choice not to take his meds…..
    I am in agreement with Zibarro! Kristopher Griffin was obsessed with hurting Debbie in the worst way and he did..
    Now, I pray he reaps…..

  • shadowman

    He never molested his Daughter jerk he was off his med he was a good guy and a great father I know him and what he did was wrong there were other ways he could have saved her please stop saying these things

    ___________________________

    First off, there is no need for name calling…it was a guess on my part. Next, you say you know the guy? How do I know that? You could be some kid in a camper in Boise, Idaho…trying to stir up a little shit. I could be Yvonne DeCarlo…you never know. If you truly know this man, then I apologize for upsetting you, but I will not apologize for what I said.

  • TheOne

    hey shadowman pick up the boston herald today that’s me so that answers your question and sorry about the name calling I’m just pissed off at all these pinheads who didn’t know him oh and i was on fox 25 news i might still be on the website i don’t know, and don’t guess bout things you know nothing about and madeabecbec he will be judged it is an awful thing and i’m shook up over it what he did was horrible there’s no getting around that I just wanted to give you all insight before you pass judgment

  • TheOne

    you can also go to the boston herald .com and read the newest article i spoke with them and they did research so there’s your proof no allegations of abuse she was abused by and older child of the mother that ones for you little pea

  • mipmop

    What the f–ck do you think ppl are going to say THEONE,,, you say you knew this guy,well i dont but as i have said before, if i had just alittle something to do with the laws and punishments for breaking them, they wouldnt worrie about having to evaluate his ass..

  • Lavonna

    I looked it up on Boston Hearld and I would think Kristopher is a lying bastard. God didn’t speak to him and tell him to kill her to keep her safe, the lying bastard killed her because *Griffin, who is originally from Homestead, Fla., and is unemployed, has more than a dozen entries on his criminal record. He owes $19,000 in back child support for another child, according to Bay State records.*

    He was NOT a great father, a great father takes care of their kids. They provide shelther, food and clothes, and love.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1186942&format=comments&cnum=3

  • TheOne

    Mipmop learn how to spell “worry”.He is my friend and Katie was a beautiful girl who’s life was cut short horribly I’m just saying he was very sick and he belongs in an institution I have a daughter too I would never harm her what he did was wrong and unthinkable I’m just trying to give people some insight into why he did it he should have gone about things differently obviously.He is sick and right now he is exactly where he needs to be

  • TheOne

    Lavona you are ignorant and you didn’t know him he was on disability from a car accident and couldn’t work I don’t believe God told him to do it either but get your facts straight or don’t talk about shit you know nothing about he did love his daughter i saw them together he’s sick and made the biggest mistake of his life and in the end he will pay his penance

  • TheOne

    oh and the entries on his criminal record i can almost guarantee are due to his illness

  • Lavonna

    Lavona you are ignorant and you didn’t know him he was on disability from a car accident and couldn’t work I don’t believe God told him to do it either but get your facts straight or don’t talk about shit you know nothing about he did love his daughter i saw them together he’s sick and made the biggest mistake of his life and in the end he will pay his penance

    Fuck you :-D you can kiss my crack asshole! I don’t have to fucking know him to know that he is a deadbeat son of a lying bitch and I sure as shit don’t get rats ass of him being disabled. Just because he was hurt that child didn’t stop eating!
    YOU are as low life as him for coming on here running your fatass mouth about the mother. I would bet your his sibling? I don’t give a fuck what you saw, that don’t mean SHIT TO ME! He killed her and that, asshole means he is a murdering selfish bastard.. HE SLIT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS THROAT!!!

  • Lavonna

    don’t give* a rats ass

  • TheOne

    Well aren’t you a pleasant one you should go check into a mental ward.He is sick and you are ignorant “your crack asshole” so what? your a crackhead and you want me to kiss your asshole you have some issues lady.God I hope you don’t have kids

  • solange822001

    I think that my opinion on this is that the family members really let this child down. How could you allow a child to be cared by someone who has a known mental illness?

  • TheOne

    and you don’t get a rats ass well it’s furry and has a tail moron

  • TheOne

    learn how to speak and spell or go back to school and i didn’t run my mouth about her mom she seemed nice enough to me

  • Lavonna

    Well aren’t you a pleasant one you should go check into a mental ward.He is sick and you are ignorant “your crack asshole” so what? your a crackhead and you want me to kiss your asshole you have some issues lady.God I hope you don’t have kids

    I am a pleaant woman when I am talking to kind, and smart people (sorry but that not include you) I think you are about as stupid as stupid gets. I don’t do crack. I DO NOT DO ANY DRUGS.

    Dumbass I said to KISS my crack (it the thing that you shit out of).
    I do have kids and I take good care of my kids so DON’T bring my kids in this!
    This just happend Friday but yet you are already on the net googling his name? Are you not going to take time out to grieve for that baby?

  • Lavonna

    pleasant**

  • Zibarro

    Mipmop learn how to spell “worry”

    Well if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black! Before you correct someone on ANY aspect of their post – you’d better make sure you are doing at least a half-assed job with your own! You rarely use (.) periods! In the scheme of things, I would prefer to read a post with a few misspellings than to try to decipher one that runs on and on and on and on….

    he did love his daughter i saw them together he’s sick and made the biggest mistake of his life and in the end he will pay his penance

    Of HIS life? Who the FUCK cares about HIS life? His “mistake” TOOK Kaitlyn’s LIFE! Penance, schmenance. He deserves to be tortured and to relive this event over and over – every single day that is left of his worthless life!

    oh and the entries on his criminal record i can almost guarantee are due to his illness

    Jeezus Christopher – that is rich! Every fucking thing that goes wrong in this dickwad’s life is “because of his illness”? Way to never take responsibility for your choices, decisions and “mistakes”, huh?

    The more you come on here defending this waste of oxygen – the more convinced I am that he is a lying, murdering, scheming, SELFISH piece of dog shit!

    His “illness” is nothing more than his EXCUSE for what he did. And it is a boldfaced LIE. This crime has premeditation written ALL over it. You are a blind fool to fall for the “mental illness” bullshit.

    I hope and pray that he suffers greatly – not just now – but for an eternity after he dies!

    And finally, when it’s MY mug up there on the FP for doing some heinous crime – I fully expect to be judged like there’s not tomorrow. Until then, I will judge whomever, whenever I damn well please. “Fuck Off” right back atcha, bitch.

  • Lavonna

    learn how to speak and spell or go back to school and i didn’t run my mouth about her mom she seemed nice enough to me

    Learn how to read moron.. I seen I had a typo that was from typing fast while pissed off! Fuck you

  • Absynthe

    I agree with pinky green ‘good’ guys don’t kill their kids.

  • Zibarro

    Lavonna – you rock, girlfriend!

    This asshole “theone” is an attention whore if I’ve ever seen one! Write ups in the paper, video … and then he comes on here bragging about it! Good grief! He surely needs to get a life and SOON!

  • Zibarro

    Solange, she didn’t live with him.

    He is being charged with HOME INVASION on top of MURDER.

    He broke into the mom’s home and killed this child in her own basement. Mom didn’t find out till cops knocked on her door in the morning because of the note the dickwad left at his own home.

  • Lavonna

    Hello Zibarro
    Thank you and you know I’ve always thought you rocked :-D
    ‘theone’ is not only a attention whore but a stupid ass bitch as well :-)

  • Zibarro

    Kristopher Griffin pleaded not guilty to charges of home invasion and murder and was ordered held for a mental evaluation.

    Prosecutors said Griffin allegedly broke into the girl’s home last night through a screen door, and slit her throat with a fillet knife.

    The girl’s mother was awoken by police, who found Kaitlynn Griffin’s lifeless body in the home’s basement.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090725mansfield_murder_shocker_dad_charged_in_girls_slay/

  • TheOne

    you know what I have grieved and still am you people are sick and i don’t care about periods you bitches have them apparently constantly I will pay my respects Tuesday at her memorial service I already have i brought flowers to the house and said a prayer for Katie and her Family which none of you know so go do something with your pathetic lives and leave them alone ignorant MORONS I can’t stand you people with a mouth like yours let’s see how your kids grow up.And Zabarro i guess all the doctors he saw were wrong right your lost go find a life and leave this page and your theories and the Family alone.

  • TheOne

    no I stated the facts that i know to be true so ignorant people like you don’t think he is some kind of animal I know what he did was wrong I’m not stupid I don’t wish this kind of grief on any family He was always happy until he stopped taking his meds you people know nothing I’m outta here i have no time for ignorance and people like you who cast judgment when you know nothing of the facts oh and by the way fox and the herald approached me outside their house after i left my flowers and said my prayers for Katie Debbie and Kris so you can all go do something with yourselves and stop posting things about Kris and his Daughter may she rest in peace and may god hold you tight little one I know your Father feels the guilt and he will have to live with what he has done you were a beautiful soul and I know I will see you in heaven someday

  • Lavonna

    My kids are just fine and are well behaved kids (with the exception of going over minutes on their cell phones)and they are none of your business but thank you for your concern about them, too bad you didn’t give a shit about Katie or you wouldn’t be on here taking up for the ‘man aka daddy’ who SLIT her throat.
    I am going to go hunt my clothes out for work and spend some time with my family before bedtime but you will never be the one to make me shut my mouth and by the way I don’t have to leave this “page” until Morbid kicks me off so shove that up your fatass :-D

  • TheOne

    yeah your right i don’t care about Katie that’s why i was the only one to leave flowers on the door step but you guys believe what you want she was a sweet girl and it’s tragic and i have a nice skinny ass by the way

  • Lavonna

    Left them on the doorstep? Why not take them to the grave and leave them there?
    By the way, I um don’t give a shit what kind of ass you have beause I think you’re a whole ass!

  • TheOne

    because she hasn’t been buried yet you bitch her memorial service is on tuesday and the funeral is private and you said i had a fat ass so just go fuck yourself ya dirty skank you don’t know shit

  • cassidymarie83

    Ummmm…

    I’m outta here i have no time for ignorance and people like you who cast judgment when you know nothing of the facts

    Would ya leave already?

  • Jezebel

    TheOne, you’re a fucking idiot to defend a man who slit his daughter’s throat and hid her body in the basement under a sheet.
    If he was SOOOO off his rocker then how did he think to hide her in a basement and cover it up?
    I grand example of mental illness is the woman above this article who ATE and dismembered her baby.
    That is mental illness.
    I hope this fucker gets his ass raped in prison until death takes him to hell.

  • http://www.myspace.com/dneil73 Dneilz

    because she hasn’t been buried yet you bitch her memorial service is on tuesday and the funeral is private and you said i had a fat ass so just go fuck yourself ya dirty skank you don’t know shit

    I guess the truth hurts… if you had a skinny ass as you said in a previous post, then you wouldn’t worry about someone saying you have a fat ass. lol

    I’m outta here i have no time for ignorance and people like you who cast judgment when you know nothing…

    I think that one who attempts to protect a child murderer is the one ignorant. You may wish to use a different adjective because apparently you have already used up the ‘ignorance’ pass.

    Unfortunately for you, the people who frequent this page don’t adjust well to people like yourself… excuses excuses excuses. We aren’t interested in your excuses for what he has done to his daughter.

  • solange822001

    Theone, I can imagine you are going through a lot of mixed feelings right now, and we’ve seen from past stories here on this site that its normal for people involved in these stories to take it out on the posters here. But understand where they are coming from. This man murdered a child, and you are defending him. There are a lot of good people here who would love to hear what you have to say about this case, but you cant blame them for their comments. Try to understand please

  • thequeenofsorrow

    kristopher griffin… kris griffin… chris griffin as in the fat dumb kid on Family Guy? This guy resembles him, too.

  • MadeaBecBec

    If God told Kristopher to murder Kaitlynn, why would he need to seek forgiveness? In a note, no less?
    Did I miss the memo where God dropped the simple commandment “You shall not murder”?

    My thoughts are: Kristopher Griffin could no longer control and manipulate Kaitlynns mother with threats of suicide, he had his wittle feewings hurt, so he made the evil decision to hurt her back, he realized offing himself wasn’t gonna do that, in fact she would likely breathe a sigh of relief. Kristopher murdered the one person that loved him unconditionally, the one who accepted him no matter what, to get revenge on her Mother!

    Dear Lord, I pray she was a sound sleeper and did not suffer…

  • Uvgottabkiddin

    Gosh! I could no wait to stop reading to comment! This jit stain knew what he was doing… He wrote a note, took her into the basement(so nobody would hear) covered her up, and in his lovely photograph he is crying like the bitch that he is! If God told him to kill his daughter, and he did, he’d be proud as a peacock. speaking of cocks…….

  • Lavonna

    LOL dirty skank? NO a bitch, yes I can be but I am far from a dirty skank.

  • Lavonna

    RIP Kaitlynn :-(

  • adorkable

    I just can’t stop thinking of this child waking up to see her father over her… maybe smiling at him…and then the shock, confusion, and horror of him slitting her throat.

    I hope to god it was nothing like that and she didn’t know what happened, but I can’t stop the sick feeling that she did.

  • lily6

    TheOne….I knew him as well. I would like to talk to you, if I could. I am having a hard time dealing with all of this.

    God Bless little Katie…may she rest in peace. My prayers are with her family and friends.

  • solange822001

    Solange, she didn’t live with him.

    He is being charged with HOME INVASION on top of MURDER.

    He broke into the mom’s home and killed this child in her own basement. Mom didn’t find out till cops knocked on her door in the morning because of the note the dickwad left at his own home.

    Thanks for pointing that out Zib, I dont know how I missed that. So this asshole went and targeted her specifically to kill her. That is even more sick and twisted than what I originally thought, if that is even possible. Rot in hell, fat bastard!

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12 Athena

    Under the assumption that this man was legitimately and severely mentally ill, here’s the mistake I’m seeing people make:

    If God told Kristopher to murder Kaitlynn, why would he need to seek forgiveness? In a note, no less?

    Sane people can’t rationalize the actions of the insane. To try leads to nothing but frustration.

    I’ve also seen comments attempting to debunk this man’s condition by comparing it to other examples of insanity. It doesn’t work like that, though. Individual cases of lunacy are as unique as snowflakes.

    That said, who knows whether or not this man is actually insane. If so, I’m sympathetic to him, as well. I can’t imagine the line between reality and illusion being constantly blurred, especially in such a way that compels me to harm those I love. Not much I can think of that is more nightmarish than that. Nor can I really blame him for consciously going off his meds, if that’s what happened, here. While anti-psychotics help clarify the line between actuality and delusion, they are often characterized by some wicked side-effects. It’s quite common for those taking these drugs to stabilize for a period and go off their medication in hope that they are cured just to be free of the debilitating side effects of the medication.

    My compassion for the mentally ill runs quite deep.

  • TheOne

    Lily anytime you want to talk is fine as for the rest of you I’m not defending what he did i’m just giving insight of why,and to tell you he was no animal until he went off his meds he must have snapped, not that it justifies what he did by any means
    I pray and pray for Katie Deb Kris and the family

  • TheOne

    listen to Athena she understands

  • TheOne

    madeabecbec you are way off

  • lily6

    The One….how do I contact you? I am not fully comfortable putting my email out there.

  • TheOne

    My email is jondoe9971@yahoo.com feel free anytime you need anything

  • MadeaBecBec

    Athena, I have compassion for the mentally ill, as well, I have family members, in-laws and outlaws that suffer from schizophrenia to Bi-polar. I have witnessed many outlandish acts by these people! The only person I was fearful for and of, was the schizophrenic, until his meds stabilzed him. I still feel exceptional sympathy for him as his meds do not allow him much in the way of joyous living, he merely exists.
    The manic episodes of the people I have encountered, have been quite different, generally when they stop taking their meds, they realize their relapse and seek out help, get their prescriptions changed and get back to taking them. Most of the time, these folks desire to hurt themselves, suicide, cutting or ingesting mind altering street drugs! The most they have done in the way of hurting someone else is by being harsh, especially to a caregiver or by disappearing and making others worry about them. When these people hit the “down” periods, they have sought medical and professional help. They’re smart people, with more common sense than most, it is still a challenge to understand their illness and how much havoc it wreaks on their bodies and attitudes, but I have yet to see any of my family seriously hurt, maim or kill another.
    Kristopher Griffin, I believe, is using his mental issues as an excuse, an alibi, if you will….

  • TheOne

    he did seek help a week before but you know hospitals use a band aid and send you on your way get the facts man

  • CassieMomma

    I wondered why this thread had so many comments already (70) and then I read a couple of comments and then I saw the one by TheOne, it’s really sad. I didn’t read them all and I’m sure what needed to be said was said so all I will say is R.I.P. Kaitlynn, you deserved better and you deserved life!

  • solange822001

    I still feel exceptional sympathy for him as his meds do not allow him much in the way of joyous living, he merely exists.

    That is so sad Madeabecbec. I cant imagine being mentally ill, how hard it must be. I hate the fact that a lot of them end up in prison or homeless, since we have no other way to treat or help them.

  • LeeMouse

    Wait…so he killed her because God told him to? Or he killed her because she was allegedly being molested by her half-brother and about to be taken out of state by her mother, and he thought he was sparing her somehow? Why wouldn’t God have told him to bide his time and kill the molester when he had a chance, instead? (I know, no use looking for rationality in the irrational.)

    TheOne, I don’t know what Kristopher was like when he was on his medication. But you come across as pretty unpleasant, and, well, you know what they say about personalities of a feather flocking together. It’s rare that a really good guy hangs out with an abrasive whiner. So I have to question the “he was a good guy” assessment. Just because he’s bi-polar doesn’t mean he can’t be an asshole, too, underneath the illness.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Wait…so he killed her because God told him to? Or he killed her because she was allegedly being molested by her half-brother and about to be taken out of state by her mother, and he thought he was sparing her somehow? Why wouldn’t God have told him to bide his time and kill the molester when he had a chance, instead? (I know, no use looking for rationality in the irrational.)

    Who said God was rational? hell, look at what he did to poor Abraham. Besides, if you truly believed God was telling you to do something, are you actually gonna question it?

    It’s quite simple, actually. The guys is crazy. He was off his meds. He felt that he could no longer protect his daughter. God tells him the only way he could help her was to kill her. Besides, why are some of you so up in arms, she’s in Heaven now playing hopscotch. You should be giving this guy a medal.

    The sad part is that if this guy is back on his meds, the clarity they will bring, the horrific realization of what he has done, will be more punishment for this man than anything we can think of. I am sure that about right now, he wishes he were dead. Kind of feel bad for the guy if he was truly a mentally ill person who functioned normally while on his medication.

  • LeeMouse

    Who said God was rational? hell, look at what he did to poor Abraham. Besides, if you truly believed God was telling you to do something, are you actually gonna question it?

    You know, I think that I would question it. I’d be trying to pull a fast one and dressing a ram up in my son’s clothes from the first, “Wait, you want me to do what?” command. But then, I probably would have been stoned as a harlot back in Old Testament times, anyway, so pretty much damned all around, I guess. I just hate to think that if there is a god, that he’s some kind of overgrown frat boy jokester. “Nah, I’m just kidding about killing your son! Hahahahaha! Had you going there for a minute, didn’t I? Now pull my finger.” I like to think that a supreme being would actually be supreme–pure logos and rationality. (You know, like me.) By definition, I’d think a supreme deity would have to be pure anti-fallacy, since the great downfall of humans is getting caught up in an endless loop of pathos-as-evidence instead of rational argument.

    But I could be wrong. Maybe God has a neck tattoo.

  • http://www.myspace.com/dneil73 Dneilz

    functioning normal on medication, Morbid? If so normal and needing meds, why stop taking them? A lot of clinics give them “FREE” if you don’t have money. No fucking excuse.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Well, he may not have been near a clinic that hands out psychotic meds like candy. He may have stopped taking them because of side-effects. there are a myriad of different reason he may have stopped taking them. There is also the possibility that stress caused his mental condition to worsen to this point.

    Again, ultimately he will pay the price for what he has done no matter the reason. But I still feel sorry for the guy if he did do this because of lapse of sanity brought on by a mental illness.

  • TheOne

    Ty morbid and for lee mouse I am pleasant to those who are pleasant to me you know the expression get respect give respect that’s what i do and the allegations were confirmed by the herald they interviewed me i wish he had taken the molester instead but he had a lapse in sanity I’m still praying for them all and he was a good guy always smiling i have pictures with him and his daughter happy as can be like i said he had a mental illness and it kicked his ass and it really sucks that my daughter will never be able to play with Katie again and we will never see her grow up but she is in God’s hands now and may he give her eternal peace

  • TheOne

    and it’s birds of a feather flock together i wonder to myself frequently how so many people can be so lost

  • Lavonna

    I am pleasant to those who are pleasant to me you know the expression get respect give respect that’s what i do

    Your very first post was very disrespectful to Shadowman and when I posted my opinion (without directing it to you) your first sentence was disrepectful to me so that is why you didn’t get respect from me!

  • lily6

    Well said, Morbid.

    It’s easy for most of you to come on here and just say “the man is crazy and he should burn in hell” or whatever. Heck, I might have thought the same as well if I hadn’t known him. I have not slept or stopped thinking about all this. If you had known the man, you would be right here with me. I am not excusing his actions whatsoever, but I do see a lot of hateful comments coming from people who just can’t outside of all this. I do feel bad for when he is back on his meds and has some clarity, I can’t even imagine how he will be then.

    The man I knew was gentle and kind and would do anything for a friend or even a stranger in need. He adored his children and I never saw less than a smile on his face. The man I saw on the news video is not the man I know. I don’t know what has happened in the past few weeks…but something definately went wrong for him to snap like that.

    God bless that sweet little girl and please give her family and friends strength and understanding to get through this.

  • PinkiGreen

    I still stand by my first statement that “good dads don’t kill their kids” BUT…

    I know when I go off the meds I take that I’m a different person. I’ve never tried to kill my kids (husbands, maybe), but I am not the sweet, wonderful person I usually am. *snicker*

    Just an all around fucked up situation.

  • tutkill

    He mistakeningly slit his daughters throat and mistakeningly forgot or stopped taking his meds??? A mistake??? Damn I hate to see what happens when he has a accident. What happens when he has a mishap?

    Looking more and more like premediated murder with a excuse of mental illness.

  • TheOne

    If you read further i apologized to shadowman I was just pissed at the allegation of him molesting his daughter when i knew someone else was molesting her i try to be as nice as i can but put yourself in my situation he’s my friend and i can’t believe this shit it’s fucked i apologize to everyone for calling them names just don’t go shooting your mouth unless you know the facts I am just aggravated and my head is spun by all this

  • hiding 4 my life

    I am the Ex wife of this man, I ran for good reason, people look at the news stories read people read he left a note that means it was pre meditated… he knew he was going to do it…. now i have to live in fear that he will walk with being “mentally ill” and unable to stand trial and he may come after me and the 2 boys i have by him from our Marriage…. and by the way I told that girls mother that he was this way so she knew… DUH !!! why arent they looking at her for keeping him around I feel bad for her and really feel bad for that little girl but come on people you can only feel so bad for someone who knew that they where going to commit murder enough to leave a note this is pre-meditated all the way if a man or woman leaves a Dear john letter guess what they thought about it, use common sense people

  • TheOne

    yeah right your full of it

  • TheOne

    he wasn’t in his right mind and neither were you from what i gather’

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Of course it was pre-meditated. That’s not even the issue. The issue is whether or not he was actually SANE during any of it. By all means lock the guy up, he has proven to be dangerous and he must pay for his crime, but again, I cannot reserve the same scorn for him as I do a child murderer who does so for kicks, or out of hatred.

    If this guy was actually nuts, then I feel bad for all involved – including him. Some of you seem think because someone feels sympathy for someone with a mental illness, then they must want him to go free because of it. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

    If a man suffering from Alzheimer’s, or dementia, does not recognize his son coming into his home, and in turn, blows his son’s brains out because he thinks he is an intruder. Would you all be saying the same thing about him? My point being is that it is a very big possibility that this man’s brain betrayed him in a most cruel way.

    I am not sure if this guy is even crazy. Hell, he could be faking it and killed his daughter to spite the ex. I dunno. I am just saying that it is possible.

  • TheOne

    Morbid I like your intellect on things i must say you bring up valid points and interesting thing about the Alzheimer’s scenario

  • lily6

    I agree…Morbid does valid points.

    Kris has a mental illness. I do believe he would have never hurt anyone in the right state of mind. I don’t believe he will be released because of all this. I don’t believe he is faking or using it as an excuse whatsoever. I pray that he gets the treatment he needs.

  • TheOne

    i went to Katie’s wake today and i consider my self a tough guy but there were a set of parents in front of me with a little girl and she asked her mom when are you taking me to see Katie at that moment I broke down like a big pussy but hey tough guys can cry too right sleep tight Katie we’ll miss you

  • Jury

    Morbid, I like your thinking; however, this could of been prevented if he took his meds. The One stated he was off his meds. Had he been on his meds would this have happened? Should we feel sorry for him for that? I believe we all feel he was mental, but if he knew this COULD happen or he knew he could not control his own thoughts without meds, why would he have his kid with him? The only medication I know that is misserable is Thorizine (I guess feeling normal is terrible). A good question to ask, did he not take his meds because of that (being painful)? I know people, if they don’t get they’re Xanix (spelling ?), they are panicking and find ways to get it. Just saying.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12 Athena

    Jury, first off, most mentally ill people who are being treated with medicine do not think they’re capable of such horrid things should they go off their medication. In fact, the vast majority of mentally ill people are not capable of such savagery when untreated. So, no, I don’t think he could have POSSIBLY predicted this kind of behavior. If he had, I doubt he’d have gone off his meds.

    Secondly, Thorazine may correct psychosis to a degree, but it certainly doesn’t make the user “normal”. There used to be a novelty song called “The Thorazine Shuffle”, likening its users to drooling zombies. Also, ALL anti-psychotics are associated with potential side effects that can have a dramatic effect on ones ability to function. It is estimated that as many as two thirds of users abandon their antipsychotics due to overwhelming side effects. Wiki is your friend. Please read this.

  • SandBunny

    this is a truly sad story and my heart goes out to the girl…..but…

    She’s only six and it’s really sad. You know with the brown curls and the glasses, it’s really sad that this had to happen.” I’m not sure exactly what she is implying with the brown curls and glasses comment, but it seemed like she was meaning that she felt bad that the girl was ugly on top of having her throat slit by her mentally ill father

    tbat was a lil funny,,,,you’re the best Morbid

  • SandBunny

    this is a truly sad story and my heart goes out to the girl…..but…

    She’s only six and it’s really sad. You know with the brown curls and the glasses, it’s really sad that this had to happen.” I’m not sure exactly what she is implying with the brown curls and glasses comment, but it seemed like she was meaning that she felt bad that the girl was ugly on top of having her throat slit by her mentally ill father

    tbat was a lil funny,,,,you’re the best Morbid

  • Jury

    **So, no, I don’t think he could have POSSIBLY predicted this kind of behavior. If he had, I doubt he’d have gone off his meds.**

    Athena, I understand what you’re saying. I was just thinking if he was hospitalized for periods of time, I would take that seriously enough to warrant the possibilities of what could happen.

    In order to leave, I am sure the staff thought him well enough, and most likely with the sense of “reason” to let him go. With that being said, he could have understood at least one time, the possibility of having an episode. I don’t know how many times he was hospitalized. If you ever thought that about yourself (a possibility due to a condition that you could not control) and you have children, would you not tell everyone to supervise or keep a real close eye on yourself?

    I could be wrong. I just think this possibility could be out there.

  • leahann

    what the fuck is your problem. Kaitlynn was the most beautiful little girl you could ever lay your eyes on. yes kris is a monster for what he did but you have no right to trash talk a dead little girl. she was not only beautiful but had alot of potential. she was the brightest child you could ever meet. how can you even begin to talk shit about a deceased child like that? what? you cant get laid so your gonna take out your frustrations out on other people’s tradgedies? get a whore or put a sock in it. before i put my fist in it.

  • leahann

    what the fuck is your problem. Kaitlynn was the most beautiful little girl you could ever lay your eyes on. yes kris is a monster for what he did but you have no right to trash talk a dead little girl. she was not only beautiful but had alot of potential. she was the brightest child you could ever meet. how can you even begin to talk shit about a deceased child like that? what? you cant get laid so your gonna take out your frustrations out on other people’s tradgedies? get a whore or put a sock in it. before i put my fist in it.

  • Eracsurfer

    TheOne…
    She missed a comma… it should read “Kiss my crack, asshole!” or to translate:

    Kiss my crack, TheOne!

    Understand, or should we make it more simple?

  • Eracsurfer

    TheOne…
    She missed a comma… it should read “Kiss my crack, asshole!” or to translate:

    Kiss my crack, TheOne!

    Understand, or should we make it more simple?

  • Eracsurfer

    TheOne…
    She missed a comma… it should read “Kiss my crack, asshole!” or to translate:

    Kiss my crack, TheOne!

    Understand, or should we make it more simple?

  • Eracsurfer

    TheOne…
    She missed a comma… it should read “Kiss my crack, asshole!” or to translate:

    Kiss my crack, TheOne!

    Understand, or should we make it more simple?

  • Eracsurfer

    You accused her mom of planning on harboring a child molester. Dope!

  • Eracsurfer

    You accused her mom of planning on harboring a child molester. Dope!

  • Eracsurfer

    You accused her mom of planning on harboring a child molester. Dope!

  • Eracsurfer

    You accused her mom of planning on harboring a child molester. Dope!

  • http://www.facebook.com/msmothers1 Monica Smothers

    It appears that “The One” is just as mentally ill as the father. I mean it’s obvious! That being said, let me explain something to you:
    If a person, with their own mouth, say that they killed someone. Guess what? That’s a crime! Mentally Ill or not. If some worthless sack of extrement decided to mow you down, I do not thing you’re family would sit there and say “well, he was mentally ill, let’s just let it go”. No, they would cry out for justice.
    Now if you want to go the route of “the mentally ill who do crimes should be put in an institute” then you have to deal with the ones who DO the crimes doing harm to the ones that don’t. So, no, you’re wrong dearie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/msmothers1 Monica Smothers

    It appears that “The One” is just as mentally ill as the father. I mean it’s obvious! That being said, let me explain something to you:
    If a person, with their own mouth, say that they killed someone. Guess what? That’s a crime! Mentally Ill or not. If some worthless sack of extrement decided to mow you down, I do not thing you’re family would sit there and say “well, he was mentally ill, let’s just let it go”. No, they would cry out for justice.
    Now if you want to go the route of “the mentally ill who do crimes should be put in an institute” then you have to deal with the ones who DO the crimes doing harm to the ones that don’t. So, no, you’re wrong dearie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/msmothers1 Monica Smothers

    It appears that “The One” is just as mentally ill as the father. I mean it’s obvious! That being said, let me explain something to you:
    If a person, with their own mouth, say that they killed someone. Guess what? That’s a crime! Mentally Ill or not. If some worthless sack of extrement decided to mow you down, I do not thing you’re family would sit there and say “well, he was mentally ill, let’s just let it go”. No, they would cry out for justice.
    Now if you want to go the route of “the mentally ill who do crimes should be put in an institute” then you have to deal with the ones who DO the crimes doing harm to the ones that don’t. So, no, you’re wrong dearie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/msmothers1 Monica Smothers

    It appears that “The One” is just as mentally ill as the father. I mean it’s obvious! That being said, let me explain something to you:
    If a person, with their own mouth, say that they killed someone. Guess what? That’s a crime! Mentally Ill or not. If some worthless sack of extrement decided to mow you down, I do not thing you’re family would sit there and say “well, he was mentally ill, let’s just let it go”. No, they would cry out for justice.
    Now if you want to go the route of “the mentally ill who do crimes should be put in an institute” then you have to deal with the ones who DO the crimes doing harm to the ones that don’t. So, no, you’re wrong dearie.

  • leahann

    FYI the son molesting her was put in a facility long before this ever happened so FYI reporting it would have done NOTHING to save Kaitlynn. no he had no right to do this. yes he is monster and belongs in prison till his last breathing moment but don't start pointing fingers as to whom shouldve reported what because reporting that would have done absolutely nothing considering it was already taken care of.

  • Eracsurfer

    Yeah…he didn't molest her, he just killed her. How dare shadowman impune his character!

    “there were other ways he could have saved her”
    How the bloody hell did he “SAVE” her!?

    ” please stop saying these things”
    Ummm…NO!

  • Eracsurfer

    Nope…I think you hit all of the points in order.

  • Eracsurfer

    Yep…called Cyanide. If only his doc had prescribed some for this asshole.

  • Eracsurfer

    Who was pointing fingers? Your own explanation totally refutes the argument that “TheOne” put forth.

    If the son that was molesting her was “put in a facility long before this ever happened” from what did she need “saving” (aka being murdered)?

    And if he wasn't in a facility, then the original statement stands, that if “TheOne” (or you for that matter) knew that she was being molested, the onus was on YOU to do something about it.

    Side note: Whether during or after the alleged molestation… if it had been reported, chances are that this child would have been removed to foster care until the charges were either substatiated or dismissed. Either way, she would have had a better chance to be alive today.

    Doing nothing about molestation is as bad as committing the act yourself you piece of filth.

  • Eracsurfer

    You are apparently the one that is misinformed.
    #1 He was NOT a good father. A good father would never murder their child….EVER.

    #2 As stated above, he made the decision to not take his meds…not his illness.

  • Eracsurfer

    Wow…it took this long for the “believe everything you read in the papers” line. We never heard that one before.

    We are casting judgement on a murdering bastard. No other “fact” is needed.

  • Eracsurfer

    Glad you got your 15 minutes of fame…now go crawl back under your rock.

  • Eracsurfer

    nope…he needs to be in the ground instead of his daughter.

  • Eracsurfer

    Damn…I wish I had that kind of illness.

    I could do whatever I want and not be responsible for my actions? Where do I sign up?

    This prick CHOSE to not take his needed meds. How is that a “great father”?

  • leahann

    kris has no siblings.

  • DastardlyDog

    It's normal for people who are on meds like he was on to sometimes stop taking them. They feel really good, so they think they don't need the mends. It's a delusion, but common. Just like people who are taking antibiotics for an infection. They start feeling better, so they think they don't have to continue with the meds till they're gone. Then the infection comes back, only worse, because the bacteria is stronger.

    In the case of the mental illness, the symptoms gradually return. The patient doesn't realize it. They slowly get worse and worse until a crisis occurs. It's not as easy as, “He chose to go off his meds.” That's not to say he's not guilty. He did do it. But his reasons may not be easy to understand. He's ill, and he is not making a lot of sense.

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