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Not too long ago, Brokenandtwisted informed us of a plan to establish an opt-out system for organ donation in Canada. Canada, like everywhere these days, is suffering from a shortage of donated organs, and it's looking for solutions. Singapore is in a similar boat. Hundreds if not thousands of sick individuals are in need of organs that the country simply doesn't have. Singapore, however, is considering a direction slightly different than Canada's - Legalizing the organ trade.
Buying or selling organs is currently banned in every country but Iran. That being said, it certainly doesn't stop people from trying. In Singapore, a retail mogul, Tang Wee Sung, has been charged with attempting to buy himself a kidney for $220,000. It was in considering cases like Tang's that the health minister suggested that perhaps the city should look to offer money for kidney donations. Here in the states, they already do that with plasma.
The idea has a lot of opponents, including the Singapore Medical Association. From the article: "It is not a good idea to legalize payment for organ donors as such payment institutionalizes the belief that the wealthy ill have property rights to the body parts of the poor," says Professor A. Vathsala, director of the adult renal transplantation program and head of nephrology at Singapore's National University Hospital.
That may be true, but the fact of the matter, here, is that we've got a big problem that won't get any better with time.
What do you think? Should we allow people to be compensated for organ donations?
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I am not sure if anyone else has it, but Ontario has a small compensation program set up for living organ donation. The system I suppose is small-scaled in comparison to what's stated...but if the government pays you for organs you don't need such as a kidney, lung or liver (portion), I believe people would do it. Then again it's just compensation for what you've loss through working, illness and the likes.
I think they should be compensated for time lost at work. Also, whatever money for essentials they spend during the time they are laid up should be reimbursed. That way, they are getting compensated but they're not making money.
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I think paying organ donors is a slippery slope. One that could possibly lead to only the rich having the opportunity for donated organs. I think that organ donation should stay on a "most needed" basis rather than a "who can pay the most."
I guess in the end, the thought of paying people for their organs kinda creeps me out a bit.
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I think paying organ donors is a slippery slope. One that could possibly lead to only the rich having the opportunity for donated organs. I think that organ donation should stay on a "most needed" basis rather than a "who can pay the most."
I guess in the end, the thought of paying people for their organs kinda creeps me out a bit.
Well, it's too late for that. There's a healthy organ black market out there, despite the nearly world-wide ban.
That being said, we're not talking about an open market subject to increases in demand and such. We're talking about a state-run (or monitored) program, much like the one that already exists in some places, that would simply give people a little more than the cost of lost wages and such to encourage "donation". People get paid for plasma donation...Not exactly a slippery slope, right?
Are you seriously telling me you'd be against that based solely on the "creep" factor? :p
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Are you seriously telling me you'd be against that based solely on the "creep" factor? :p
Well, no... not SOLELY :)
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Well, it's too late for that. There's a healthy organ black market out there, despite the nearly world-wide ban.
I am aware of that. I just think that legalizing it and thereby taking away current restrictions on "honest" doctors would lead to a greater amount of abuse. (thus the slippery slope I was talking about - I just wonder where exactly the bottom of that slope lies)
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We're talking about a state-run (or monitored) program, much like the one that already exists in some places
I am not aware of these programs. Would you mind elaborating a bit on their regulations, etc?
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that would simply give people a little more than the cost of lost wages and such to encourage "donation".
I get your point about it not being an open market sort of situation and subject to demand. I suppose if there were a set amount to give to the donors and the organs were still given based on need, then I don't think I'd have much of a problem with it.
I guess my knee jerk reaction was to imagine rich folk buying themselves organs while the plebes stood on the side lines waiting for left overs. If that wouldn't be the case, my objections are whittled down simply to the "creeps", and as previously established: I would not be against it based SOLELY on the creep factor
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