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A 14-year-old faces a hate-crime enhancement charge after Palm Bay police said he carried out a racially-motivated attack on a 22-year-old man for listening to rap music.

The teen was taken into custody late Monday and charged with battery after Palm Bay police were called to investigate a disturbance near the intersection of Port Malabar Boulevard and India Lane in the northeast section of the city.

Hate-crime enhancement means the first-degree misdemeanor battery charge could be elevated to a third-degree felony because the youth show “extreme prejudice against the victim because of his race,” said Yvonne Martinez, spokeswoman for the Palm Bay Police Department.

“The victim, who is white, was walking along Port Malabar listening to rap music when he saw the suspect and a group of other youth,” Martinez said.

The 14-year-old, who police say may have known the man, told the man to stop listening to the rap music, “because he was white,” and that, “white people shouldn’t listen to rap music,” Martinez said.

“(The victim) then told them that he could listen to any kind of music he liked,” Martinez said.

The teen struck the victim in the face as the other youth encouraged the attack, police said. The beaten man escaped and contacted police. He later identified the teen, Martinez said.
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...+rap-music+fan
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Don't know always heard blacks can't commit hate crimes, only whites can
Bet this never goes to court as a hate crime, they're even afraid to say the youths were black, if they had been white it would be in bold letters, reverse discrimination is worse than discrimination

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Don't know always heard blacks can't commit hate crimes, only whites can
I have never heard of any such thing. Only white people break the law for hate towards other groups of people? I don't know where you always heard that from.


Definitions of Hate Crimes on the Web:

* Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_Crimes

* Any of the above crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity.
www.gvsu.edu/publicsafety/index.cfm

* are defined by the Department of Education in the Federal Register Part IX-34 CFR Part 668 as the crimes listed previously and other crimes involving bodily injury to any person in which the victim is intentionally selected because of the actual or perceived race, gender, religion, sexual ...
www.wesleyan.edu/publicsafety/appendix.htm
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This boy should be honoured by the nation and given a reward of some sort. To think that there are youth such as he still about......this gives me some semblance of hope for the future.

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The 14-year-old, who police say may have known the man, told the man to stop listening to the rap music, “because he was white,” and that, “white people shouldn’t listen to rap music,” Martinez said.

“(The victim) then told them that he could listen to any kind of music he liked,” Martinez said.

The teen struck the victim in the face as the other youth encouraged the attack, police said. The beaten man escaped and contacted police. He later identified the teen, Martinez said.
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Bet this never goes to court as a hate crime, they're even afraid to say the youths were black, if they had been white it would be in bold letters, reverse discrimination is worse than discrimination
So the article doesn't say black or white. How do we know the 14 yr old was a black kid? Funny thing is I was assuming it was a white kid pissed. Its interesting how I just assumed he was white.
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I have never heard of any such thing. Only white people break the law for hate towards other groups of people? I don't know where you always heard that from.


Definitions of Hate Crimes on the Web:

* Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_Crimes

* Any of the above crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity.
www.gvsu.edu/publicsafety/index.cfm

* are defined by the Department of Education in the Federal Register Part IX-34 CFR Part 668 as the crimes listed previously and other crimes involving bodily injury to any person in which the victim is intentionally selected because of the actual or perceived race, gender, religion, sexual ...
www.wesleyan.edu/publicsafety/appendix.htm
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So the article doesn't say black or white. How do we know the 14 yr old was a black kid? Funny thing is I was assuming it was a white kid pissed. Its interesting how I just assumed he was white.
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Because if he/they were white it would be OK to state it, and they would have.

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I think its BS, but others believe it
As I recall someone posted in the Christian & Newson gruesome murder the perpetrators couldn't be racist because only whites could

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/huston/060518
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Seattle schools say only whites can be racist

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Canada, lacking a heritage of slavery, is not afflicted with institutional racism. That’s what Canadians have always believed, and that’s what has put them on the moral high ground vis-ŕ-vis their southern neighbor.

http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/...hites_can.html
For those who are new to this particular ideological twilight zone, the rationale for this argument goes like this: only those who enjoy social power and privilege (i.e., whites) can be racist. The disenfranchised cannot, by definition, be racist because they lack the power to institutionalize any prejudices they may have. There is a corollary to this argument that goes like this: all whites are by definition racist. The privilege of white skin, the argument goes, makes this inevitable.

http://socyberty.com/ethnicity/can-o...ple-be-racist/

Can Only White People Be Racist?

http://jewishworldnews.org/2010/05/0...an-be-racists/

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By definition of hate crime law, I would say no, not only whites can commit hate crimes.


However, some people may express their own opinion because they feel black people get too many free passes or something or are a bit bitter.

I agree that there are many hate crimes committed against whites that should be classified as such, but aren't. I guess someone will have to do some work to bring awareness and enforcement in their states. Fight for it like black people have done if they really care to.

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Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered.

Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.

Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.ą In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.˛

Because these hate crimes were perpetrated by black against whites — even though they were based completely on racial hatred — the national media, politicians, and civil rights leaders ignored them.
If these acts of savagery had indeed happened as I originally described them above, you would have heard about them. But because they were perpetrated by blacks against whites — even though they were based completely on racial hatred — the national media, politicians, and civil rights leaders ignored them. As opposed to the deaths of Yusef Hawkins and James Byrd, these deaths are only reported in the local media. And even then, the races of the people involved are often not mentioned.

Below are some more hate crimes that have been ignored because they happened the “wrong way” (i.e., they were black-on-white instead of white-on-black).

* Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Upset about a racial name-calling that occurred earlier that night, several black men savagely beat a random white man who had had nothing to do with the incident. He slipped away from his attackers, but they forced him to swim into a lake to escape. He drowned. The three men were sentenced to less than a year in jail.3


* Massachusetts. Four black men decided to murder the next white person they saw. That unlucky soul was a college student from Boston, whom the men stabbed to death.4


* Indiana. A black man was arrested for killing seven white people with a shotgun. He explained that he murdered his victims due to his “deep-rooted hatred” of white people.5


* Miami, Florida. The leader of a black supremacist sect (i.e., the “Yaweh ben Yaweh cult”) was convicted of the murders of several white people. He ordered his followers to kill any and all “white devils.” They killed at least seven white people, bringing back body parts to their leader.6


* North Carolina. Seven black men kidnapped a white woman, raped her, put her in a tub of bleach, shot her five times, and dumped her body. The murderers said they did this for racial reasons.7
And much more. Too much to read

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html
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Boulder, Colorado. After discovering that one of their members had never had intercourse with a white woman, an Asian gang went looking for one. When they found a white University of Colorado student, the six men gang raped her in their minivan for two hours.

At their trial, “Detectives described the woman’s night of terror, including repeated threats to kill her.

“The woman leaped out of the minivan after one of the men raped her. Naked, she sprinted across Lefthand Canyon Road before Steve Yang tackled her, authorities said.

“‘They were all screaming at her, calling her names and hitting her,’ Detective Jane Harmer testified.

“Yang put her in a headlock and dragged her back into the van, where she was raped repeatedly, Harmer said.

“‘It was a free-for-all,’ Harmer testified.

“One man threatened to ‘cut and burn her,’ and another put a gun barrel to the back of her head when they released her, Harmer said.”9
What about Asians? Can they do hate crimes?
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Yes, but the mainstream national media will not report it.
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The man told WFTV he was listening to “Wasted” by Gucci Mane.

David McKnight did not fight back when 14-year-old Joshuah Lamb punched him in the face repeatedly, investigators said. Battery is the only charge Lamb faces, but he could face felony hate crime charges.

McKnight said he was listening to a CD when he was attacked by the teen. McKnight never thought listening to rap music would trigger a black teenager to beat him up because of the color of his skin and choice of music.

“I feel it's a racial thing really,” McKnight said.
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“I couldn't get away fast enough, let’s just put it that way. Then one of them spit on me, punched me, knocked me down, got a couple of kicks in from a couple of them,” McKnight said.

McKnight suffered a broken toe, concussion, a swollen eye and strangulation marks around his neck. Police said the 14-year-old was with at least seven of his friends, all of whom were instigating the fight.

“I told him to drop it. I was like, ‘Just drop it, let's go, there is eight of you and one of me. Just drop it.’ And he says, ‘I'm not dropping anything.’ Bam! Punched me,” he described.

Police showed up minutes later and arrested Lamb on battery charges.
http://www.wftv.com/news/24421484/detail.html


Interview with McKnight: http://www.wftv.com/video/24426219/index.html
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