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Old November 7th, 2009, 12:09 AM
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An Anna woman has been convicted of sexual assault involving her daughter even though she was never accused of molesting the child.

A Collin County jury found Michelle Lynn Smith, 42, guilty of three counts of aggravated sexual assault because she allowed her husband to repeatedly abuse the preschool child, said Crystal Levonius, lead prosecutor in the case.

"She knew what he was and what he liked," Levonius said. "She continually gave him access to her."

Each count carries 70 years in prison and will run consecutively. Smith will have to serve 90 years of the 210-year sentence before she will be eligible for parole.

"I don't believe Ms. Smith ever wanted the little girl to be abused," said Thomas D'Amore, Smith's defense attorney. "There was never any evidence presented that she intended or aided it."

Levonius disagreed, saying that Smith knew Glen Bracy was a registered sex offender when she met him and was warned by a therapist not to marry him.

Smith ignored the warning and married Bracy on Jan, 26, 2002.

At the time, Bracy already had two prior convictions for child molestation. In California, he was found guilty of molesting a deaf and mute child, Levonius said.

In 1995, he was convicted in Collin County of indecency with a child by sexual contact and sentenced to five years in prison. He was on parole for that conviction when he met Smith. Their daughter was born in 2002, the same year they married.

Levonius said the family would sleep together naked, and that Bracy began molesting his daughter before her second birthday.


The child reported the abuse in 2007, when she was 4 years old. She told officials that "Michelle" would watch as the sexual abuse took place, court documents show.

When he was arrested, Bracy confessed to sexually abusing his daughter "up to 50 times." Bracy, now 42, is serving five life sentences for aggravated sexual assault.

Levonius thinks Smith's conviction on the same charges sets a precedent for Collin County and sends a message to other mothers who allow their children to be sexually abused.

"You're going to be held accountable if you help sex offenders get access to your child," she said.

Levonius said the girl is now in a much happier place.

Five weeks after being placed in foster care, the child "initially denied having a family other than her foster family," court records show.

The child, who is now 7, has been adopted.

"Although she grew in Michelle Smith's womb, she's grown in the heart of her new mother," Levonius said. "She's with a family that loves her and protects her."

She also calls the child a hero for reporting the abuse. At the time, Michelle Smith had given birth to a second daughter, who was 4 months old when both children were removed from the home.

"By speaking out, she was able to protect her younger sister," Levonius said. "She's a hero because I have no doubt that the 4-month-old would have been in store for the same life."
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Old November 7th, 2009, 12:11 AM
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She probably spoke out because of her sister. Only reason I ever did. She is her hero, that is for sure.
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awwwe poor child.....
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"You're going to be held accountable if you help sex offenders get access to your child," she said.


i like that prosecutor, that is definitely a message that needs to be heard. that is absolutely horrific. at least that evil bitch got the life sentence she deserved, and not just a slap on the wrist like so many other pedo enablers. even if she never did anything herself, she is absolutely just as guilty for knowing this was going on and allowing this to happen with her approval. if there were more appropriate sentences like this for pedo enablers, maybe some of these idiots would start getting the message that allowing a sick perv to have access to your kids is a fucking crime. of course, it's just sad that there's anyone who has to be told that.

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This makes me fucking sick.
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I guess I'm not really surprised that this happened, after all, she did make mistake number 1 by marrying a RSO.
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I don't have the words in my vocabulary to adequately express my hatred of this woman and parents like her.

I wish I believed in Hell so I could daydream about her burning there.

I am so glad the girl and has sister are out of that home and that they will have wonderful lives.
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Mighty fine sentences these creeps were given, I hope every day is a spin through hell for the pair of them. It sounds like the little girl is doing very well and is wise beyond her years. She's pretty smart to already understand enough to mark those "parents" off as having anything to do with her. Imagine, at the tender age of 7 she has saved herself and her sister, got two perverts locked up for life and has moved on from what hopefully will be the worst experience she ever has. She IS a hero and may rule the world some day!

I can't help but wonder why or how a person can marry a child molester? What could the possible attraction be? Personally I could not touch one with my hands even if my job required me to do so, such as a cop escorting one to a jail. I'd have to prod them with a stick and wear a body condom, that's how disgusting and vile I find them. I would like to know more on the psychology of why someone whould chose a pedo for a partner.

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Yes.

Yet another sex offender (a pedophile, too!) that was previously convicted and released.

Sexual offenders do not "get better." They don't wake up one day and have their deviant sexual urges disappear into thin air.

When are we going to learn that they should never be released?

Let these assholes out of prison and its only a matter of time until they re-offend.

It makes me so mad.
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I hope this means 'real' time - not make-believe prison time (6 - 7 yrs in real time).


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Little children, such as this abused child, amaze me, in their willpower and strength, their willingness to protect others from the torture and emotional pain they have experienced is beyond awesome. You have to wonder, though, that gene that makes them standout and be victorious against all odds, has to be God given, or least that is what I believe. I would love nothing more than there to be no children put through abuse, that is something I pray about (and for) daily, nightly. I often ask God, what is the reason for children to suffer these evil things? His small voice tells me, because there will always be evil and who better to counsel and love someone that is experiencing evil, than one that has been through it and came through it alive! There is a purpose for everything under heaven. Ecclesiastes 3:1-3 always comes to mind.

I don't like it, in fact I hate it, that any child suffers, I have a tool, though and that is prayer.

Child of seven, I will add you to my prayer list and hope that one day, we'll hear of greater things of you, Stay victorious and strong!
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I'm not disagreeing with a SINGLE thing that has been said to this point. But let's look at the statement I've quoted above. The truth is, Michelle Smith may NOT have ever intended or actively aided the abuse. But c'mon, peeps, ALL of you know that women can be fucking nutjobs when it comes to "finding and keeping" a man. If you will play along for a minute, consider it as a continuum, and think about the shit your sister did to hang on to the guy who beat her, how your mother ignored the horrible things your dad said all those years before the heart attack took him, etc.

Here's what I'm saying: this bitch gets EVERY second of punishment we can manage to hand out to her. But how the fuck did she come to a place where her involvement (or lack thereof) in what happened to her little daughter was okay?
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Do you mean how did she justify it in her own mind? I think she knew. I think she married this man for the purpose of having a child so she could watch him molest her. I believe she got off on it. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean that she was not aware of and encouraging of what he did.
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Do you mean how did she justify it in her own mind? I think she knew. I think she married this man for the purpose of having a child so she could watch him molest her. I believe she got off on it. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean that she was not aware of and encouraging of what he did.
I'm not saying that's not possible or even likely. But I've seen women overlook some pretty fucking horrendous shit to "hang on" to a guy. To automatically and without evidence classify Michelle Smith as a woman who "got off" on her daughter being molested oversimplifies the realities of what goes on in the world we live in.

If you're thinking I think Michelle Smith just needs some "therapy" or some horseshit like that, you're wrong. I'm horrified. But I think it's ignorant to not examine the facts we have available to us and not at least question the shit woman DO and ALLOW when it comes to maintaining a relationship.
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Smith ignored the warning and married Bracy on Jan, 26, 2002.

At the time, Bracy already had two prior convictions for child molestation. In California, he was found guilty of molesting a deaf and mute child, Levonius said.

In 1995, he was convicted in Collin County of indecency with a child by sexual contact and sentenced to five years in prison. He was on parole for that conviction when he met Smith. Their daughter was born in 2002, the same year they married.
If I hadn't read this I may agree with you LIzard. Women do overlook alot to stay with a man they love. But this woman was on notice what a pervert this fucker was and not only choose to stay with and marry him but have 2 children with him. Then she allowed this...

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And that was the end of even thinking she may be not innocent, but at least not knowing of her daughters abuse. We are a pretty free house here. Pretty open. And i would never let my daughter sleep naked with us. Ever. Just wouldn't cross my mind as a thing to do.
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Again, NOT disagreeing with you, Nell. But what did BRACY tell her? Don't the dulcet tones of the man looking at you with love in his eyes matter more than some cunt therapist?

How do you go from the family sleeping together to the family sleeping together naked to the family sleeping naked together while the father abuses the baby?

One night at a time.
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So you are thinking that she knew that he was a perv but that he had convinced her he was cured, then after they had the first baby he slowly kinda groomed her to let the molestation go on? I can see that, maybe. You would have to have incredibly low self esteem to go for that, but i can see it.

How do you convince someone that it is ok? Slowly, like you said. One day at a time. But I still think she had to have known that she was maybe going to get into this situation. If she had one connecting brain cell she had to have known this may happen and in some point of her mind be ok with it. Just like if you date a former junkie. You may believe and hope they will have changed, but if you walk in the bathroom and find them doing heroin, well. Can you really be surprised?
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Glenn Alan Bracy aka Glen Allen/Alan Bracy - 2004 Mug

Y'all know, he even looks pervy!
Nell; I think you are correct. Michelle, I don't believe would have ever acted on her child molesting ways had she not met up with Bracy, but I do think she was "thrilled" when she met him, it's possible she sought him out, or men like him, for this very reason. Not to actually have children of her own, but, to be a voyeur of his evilness. Then, when she became pregnant, well, I think these two decided they were in paradise and no one would ever know.

Lizard; I am curious as well....I know friends, that have stayed in abusive relationships, because of low self-esteem and programming by the abuser, but once there was a child involved, they drew the line and got help, to protect their child/children. I do not get these other women, however, that allow boyfriends/husbands to harm children. I would like to know their background, too!
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NO, I'm not saying she knew he was a "perv." I think it was more likely that he told her the charges were trumped up, that it was a misunderstanding, that he would NEVER hurt a child "that way."

The truth is, we don't know what words were passed between the two of them in the dark. One "what if?" could lead to doubt in the mind of the other, especially if she's been treated lovingly and respectfully. Add that to "one day at a time." What then?

If there is research on how a Michelle Smith could go from mother to abuse-allower, I haven't seen it. But there is a great deal of research on how "normal" people put into certain kind of situations turn into, based on the role into which they've been placed, victims or predators, and I can't imagine why that dynamic wouldn't apply in this sort of situation as well.
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"I don't believe Ms. Smith ever wanted the little girl to be abused," said Thomas D'Amore, Smith's defense attorney. "There was never any evidence presented that she intended or aided it."
Like hell she didn't intend for her daughter to abused you stupid Fuck!!!!

And she's gonna die before she'll ever be free again, so will the male monster. It's a beginning of a good sentence, now if they both get raped over and over and over and have the shit beat out them on a daily basis until they bleed and shit themselves, it will be an even better sentence.

God bless you little girl.....
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But it was more than one case he was convicted of. She had to have known. She had to have. I cannott believe that she couldn't. And i want to give her the benefit but i can't.

And was Michelle ever a mother before she had a child with the pedophile? Because i don't think she was and that would make a difference.

And even if he told her whatever why take the chance? Just why?

Nobody knows what words ever pass between these women and the men that hurt their children. But why take the chance?
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Maybe. This is something else we like to believe, but I've heard rumors to the contrary. Depending on where a prisoner is placed, there may be "consequences" to the convicted from other convicts, but, maybe not. It's possible both could live out their normal lives with 3 squares a day and regular medical exams.

If it makes you feel better to believe otherwise, knock yourself out. But that doesn't make it true.
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Maybe. This is something else we like to believe, but I've heard rumors to the contrary. Depending on where a prisoner is placed, there may be "consequences" to the convicted from other convicts, but, maybe not. It's possible both could live out their normal lives with 3 squares a day and regular medical exams.

If it makes you feel better to believe otherwise, knock yourself out. But that doesn't make it true.
I know. But we can hope, right?
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Old November 8th, 2009, 03:32 AM
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But it was more than one case he was convicted of. She had to have known. She had to have. I cannott believe that she couldn't. And i want to give her the benefit but i can't.

And was Michelle ever a mother before she had a child with the pedophile? Because i don't think she was and that would make a difference.

And even if he told her whatever why take the chance? Just why?

Nobody knows what words ever pass between these women and the men that hurt their children. But why take the chance?
Bullshit. "Had" to have known? You're talking like everyone on this planet is a Demon member, Nell.

And I *will* give her the benefit of the doubt, but I still say fucking give her the max that the law allows. Fuck it, kill the whore. She was such a fucking idiot with THIS one, she'll be a fucking idiot again.

C'mon, people. Most of us are here because once upon a time WE were victims. And we've seen those strange, sad dances among those who do harm and those who "love" them.
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ABSOLUTELY, we can! You get a 100% agreement from me on this, Peep. But at the same time, let's be realistic. That's all I'm saying.
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Quite frankly, I don't even want to have to even feed these vile animals for the rest of their wretched lives... they should be executed. I live in Egypt; here, rapists are executed along with the murderers, and they only get one appeal after sentencing... in short, they don't get a second chance.

Some years back, a little girl and her brother were abducted while on their way to school. The little boy was tied to a pole and was forced to watch the rape of his little sister who was only 10 years old. Luckily, the man spared their lives and just walked away leaving them there in an isolated place, likely thinking no one would find them til he was long gone. The children described him to the police, but the police played a trick and gave the public an entirely different description. The rapist felt secure that he'd gotten away with it and decided being seen in public was no danger... they caught his ass within the week! The little girl almost bled to death, but by the time she did get out of the hospital, her rapist had been tried and executed and no longer a threat to society. I hear she's not ever going to be able to have children due to the damage done to her body, and she's still in deep depression which may take years to heal. Her life is destroyed, but the devil that did this to her is DEAD!

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maybe its better that we don't understand what led to this. maybe it is what it is.

now back to my sand digging.
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I can see your point Liz, I really can. Any other woman that was involved in a situation like this I may be swayed to believe that she had no idea this would happen and let it go on because she loved him so much. But i have to believe that with all the notice this woman recieved on her choice of mates background, if she wasn't in a coma most of the time she was "parenting" these kids, this couldn't have come as a huge surprise.

I can feel for the women that love and trust their mates, who have no reason to suspect they may do this and then it happens. The worst thing. But not Michelle. Not with all the people telling her shit about his background, not with his record. If she wanted to be with him fine. But why have kids and then let him around them? Like tying a mean dog in your backyard then faiting in shock when it bites your face off.
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