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    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493708/...llo-estrangule

    Translated by Reader, at RU:

    I include here a translation I did of what the commentator says in the above video:

    “To begin with, we have to highlight that he did have a defense lawyer, it was a public defender, and she was that person who was named (in the media) in the first moments (of this case). Besides, he was interrogated through a translator, that is, in his native language, so to avoid the possibility of someone saying that ‘he didn’t understand’.

    “He says, for example, what was his occupation in Aruba, his job, a pizza, bread and coffee shop in Thailand, and he refers to earn 20,000 euros per year. Evidently, with 20,000 euros per year just a few people can live in such a circumstance (maybe the commentator is referring to traveling and gambling).

    “He says that he did meet Stephany Tatiana Flores, but on May 27. We are talking three days before her death. And where did he meet her? He went many times, he said, to the Atlantic City Casino. He also met the person whose name has been mentioned as being with him, Elton García.

    “He is asked to state in detail the facts related to the crime against the life, and he says that Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez, at about five in the morning, told him that she wanted to play on the Internet, that she told him ‘let’s go play elsewhere’, that is, to his hotel.

    “ ‘We left in Stephany’s vehicle’, and they arrived to the hotel on 5:30. ‘We went to my room, and we played poker in my laptop. In that moment, he says, I opened my e-mail and I saw a message saying ‘I’m going to kill you, +++++++’, in reference to the Holloway case . ‘In that instant I talked to Stephany about the case’, he says, and he told her that five years ago he was detained on the suspicion that he had murdered this girl.

    “But he says that, in that moment, Stephany had a reaction, according to what he is saying, had a reaction, and hit him with her fist on his head's left side, he says. He says that he reacted with his elbow and hit Stephany for the first time, and left her semi-conscious. He says that this affected him so much that ‘I grabbed her neck with both hands and strangled her for a minute’. That is, here, in this testimony , he admits he killed this girl.

    “And he refers that when he exits this room, when he fled, he took the van. That is, he robs it, and then he took the cabs, and all that that we have been knowing about this journey of Van der Sloot to Santiago. And here he involves those two drivers who took him from Ica to Arica. He says he told them that he was being accused of commiting a murder, that he was being accused of murdering this person. There he involves these persons (the taxi drivers).

    “He arrived in Santiago on 2 PM, and he says, in this long narration, that in Santiago there wasn’t an arrest warrant on him, that he goes voluntarily to a precinct, a police center, and he says that he told them he was being wanted, but they told him there wasn’t any arrest warrant.

    “He is questioned through the translator (all the questions are done through the translator) about the garment, the shirt he refers he used to asfixiate this girl and deprived her from her life. And he confirms that he used that same shirt he wore, which was later found with stains of blood.

    “When he talks about Stephany Flores' purse he refers it contained three Visa cards, and 850 soles, which he also took. There is the aspect of robbery. There are a series of details.

    “And now we go to the essential part, where with extreme detail he says where she was, she was on the bed, he hit her with his right elbow, and he narrates exactly how he caused her death.

    “Later on he also talks about his link to the case of Natalee Holloway, the young girl, bur he said he preferred to talk about that to the Aruban police.

    “This is the testimony given by the Dutchman”
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    Mini MonsterSloot
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/migmonte.../0/mXDtQIivZXo


    Part 6 of interview w/ Stephany's dad. He is an amazing man IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy135 View Post
    El Whoro's mama is a big fat liar too,,,,Hey Cindy Anthony, here's a bestie for ya, someone who can really understand you. You, she and Scott Peterson's mammy can form your our little support group, Mom's of Mudering Monsters




    April 25, 2010




    SM.

    Jeez for a minute I thought it was Tommy "Jughandles" Crosslin LOL
    those bingo daubers are bigger than his cock! lol. humm..thats why he has that look on his face..green with envy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by akika666 View Post
    after watching the Dateline report this morning, i'm more and more convinced that he's not so much a sex killer as an impulsive sociopath who started to get desperate for money after his father died. he was literally enraged that money was not coming easy anymore and his plan to rob Stephany went off the rails the minute she put up resistance. the drugs he was using only added fuel to his inner rage. he was gonna self destruct somehow after his father "abandoned" him. he took poor Stephany with him.
    I thought I read one of the newer articles that said he WASN't on drugs, he was just using that to lessen his time. I could be wrong tho.

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    http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuw...-joran-aan.xml
    Peru complains drivers to Joran
    The three Peruvian taxi drivers who Joran van der Sloot from Peru to Chile are presented, indicted for complicity to murder. That the police investigation said.
    Joran DRIVERS TO PERU Complains
    Photo

    The police accuses the drivers that they not have contacted the police. Joran had told them that he was accused of the murder of the disappeared Stephany Flores.

    Similarly, the drivers have Joran extorted by him sky-high prices to pay for the rides. He also paid them with a camera and mobile phone. Which have been found.
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    still more lies..
    “But he says that, in that moment, Stephany had a reaction, according to what he is saying, had a reaction, and hit him with her fist on his head's left side, he says. He says that he reacted with his elbow and hit Stephany for the first time, and left her semi-conscious. He says that this affected him so much that ‘I grabbed her neck with both hands and strangled her for a minute’. That is, here, in this testimony , he admits he killed this girl.
    “He is questioned through the translator (all the questions are done through the translator) about the garment, the shirt he refers he used to asfixiate this girl and deprived her from her life
    i didn't know you could break someones neck with your elbow
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    Prince PoopderPants
    The Mad Hatter:
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a.../?cid=tag:all1

    Van Der Sloot's Latest Lie

    The 22-year-old Dutch native has been charged with the murder of Stephany Flores. Now prison officials tell The Daily Beast that he lied about the timing of the crime, that contrary to earlier reports, he wasn't high the night of it—and that he'll be locked in solitary confinement for months to come, "for his own safety."

    Joran van der Sloot is finally, officially, going down. On Friday, the 22-year-old Dutch native was formally charged with first-degree murder and robbery in the death of 21-year-old Peruvian student Stephany Flores, whom he confessed to killing earlier this week. The Peruvian judge who condemned him to one of Lima's most notorious prisons to await trial added that the murder had been committed with "ferocity and great cruelty."

    An extraordinary scene unfolded outside Lima's Palace of Justice as Van der Sloot heard the judge's order. Crowds of indignant onlookers flanked the rear entrance of the imposing colonial building as a decoy van marked "AMBULANCE" stopped outside the door. Van der Sloot, clearly identifiable by his height and close-cropped haircut, was the last of 11 suspects police manhandled into the entrance. Onlookers shouted "murderer!" and threw rotten vegetables at him from behind police lining the gap between the van and the door.

    "For his own safety we cannot mix him with the other prisoners. This murder case is so infamous that he could easily be killed."

    After van der Sloot was loaded back into the van to be transported to Lima's Miguel Castro Castro prison, Police General Cesar Guardia told The Daily Beast that most of what the accused murderer had confessed were blatant lies. "His toxicological report shows no signs that he had ingested any kind of drug," Guardia said, countering van der Sloot's perhaps strategic claim that he was high on marijuana when he killed Flores—in Peru, felony crimes committed under the influence of drugs can be treated with leniency in the courts.

    • Barbie Latza Nadeau & Dan Collyns: Van der Sloots Tells AllGuardia also told The Daily Beast that van der Sloot lied about the timing of the murder. Earlier in the week, he told investigators that he had gone out to buy coffee for himself and Flores, and killed her when he returned to the room after finding the young woman on his computer. In fact, according to Guardia, hotel surveillance cameras show that van der Sloot faked his early-morning coffee run. Instead, he left the room with two empty paper cups and then summoned a member of the hotel staff to open his door, lying that he had forgotten his key.

    This, according to the Peruvian police, underscores the suspect's attempts to cover his tracks. "In terms of the sequence of events which led him to commit this savage act, it's true he has recounted most of what occurred," Guardia told The Daily Beast. "But he admits there are also some parts which he doesn't remember." Guardia added that he thinks van der Sloot confessed "because the evidence against him was so overwhelming, he was obliged to do so."

    Lamenting the final moments of the young woman's life, Guardia says he believes that Flores suffered greatly at the young man's hand. "Can you imagine how she could defend herself against a man who is two meters in height and with his physical build?" he asked. "He gave her a ferocious beating and took the life of a young Peruvian. In doing so he has injured the whole country and he will face justice."

    At the very beginning of Van der Sloot's interrogation earlier this week, he hinted that he would reveal what really happened to Natalee Holloway, the young American woman he was suspected of killing in Aruba in 2005—but only if he could be returned to the Aruban authorities to do so. Peruvian police felt that Van der Sloot was trying to leverage information about Holloway in an attempt to be returned to Aruba, where he is perceived to have enjoyed protection from the law thanks to his influential family. "During the interrogation the question subtly slipped out, and he said he would talk to the Aruban authorities about the matter," said Guardia. But in the end, the Peruvians felt that the young Dutchman was simply crying wolf. Van Der Sloot has played the Natalee card on far too many occasions in the past. And Guardia says the Aruban authorities would be able to question Van der Sloot while he's in Peruvian custody.

    Now the prisoner is en route to Miguel Castro Castro to be housed with its frightening population of 1,500 inmates. It is a maximum-security facility designed using the American prison model, with a central gun turret and several more on its periphery. The most dangerous murderers and terrorists serve time here, including former members of the leftist Shining Path rebel group and other smaller groups from Peru's 20-year internal conflict in the 1980s and '90s. But van der Sloot will not be part of the general population, at least for now.

    "The Dutchman will be held in a solitary cell for at least four or five months," a prison official told The Daily Beast. "For his own safety we cannot mix him with the other prisoners. This murder case is so infamous that he could easily be killed. There are a lot of murderers in this prison, especially hit men who can easily be contracted from outside … To the criminal mind, it's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. They feel affronted that he's murdered a Peruvian girl and they would kill him for the honor of their country."
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    sorry if this has been explained before, but what's with the Peruvian prisoners and the big blankets around their necks? i've just never seen this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akika666 View Post
    sorry if this has been explained before, but what's with the Peruvian prisoners and the big blankets around their necks? i've just never seen this before.
    Maybe they are hoping he will use it to make a noose and hang himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akika666 View Post
    sorry if this has been explained before, but what's with the Peruvian prisoners and the big blankets around their necks? i've just never seen this before.
    Peru is in the southern hemisphere. When it's summer here, it's winter there. The blankets may be provided because it is chilly there now.

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    Transcript of last nights DATELINE:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37650865...crime_reports/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravyn1965 View Post
    Peru is in the southern hemisphere. When it's summer here, it's winter there. The blankets may be provided because it is chilly there now.
    thanks i'm not an utter moron. i know where Peru is, plus my sister lives in Australia and it's definitely winter there.

    maybe for warmth... here in the winter they don't use neck blankets on prisoners... they weren't wearing them like shawls or ponchos, just around their necks. maybe in the vehicle during transport they are spread out and used for warmth. seems strange to give them blankets rather than corrections jackets as blankets can be torn, and also used as concealment. whatever.

    i guess there's no big reason. i was just curious.
    Last edited by akika666; June 12th, 2010 at 09:42 PM.

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    Looks like it is his sleep blanket not his newest beach towel but quite possibly it could be fashioned into a noose if one was so inclined, you may be on the right track here TT

    The psychopath deviant murderer being fingerprinted, handcuffed , chained and given him his sleeping blanket before being transported to Miguel Castro Castro ..

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    maybe those are the blankets given and they dont want to lose them?
    Maybe they aren't given anymore
    Ive seen that prison its not club med lol
    They riot for bread for gods sake why would the officials care if they are cold
    Alot of foreign prisons family pays for stuff
    if they dont then "oh well"
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    http://peru21.pe/noticia/493854/van-...-maten-prision

    Joran van der Sloot is afraid to be killed in jail


    The Dutchman told the police that his life in jeopardy against Castro Castro and called to serve his sentence in Aruba.

    The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) told police his fear of being killed after being interned in the maximum security prison Miguel Castro Castro, in San Juan de Lurigancho.

    "I do not want to be imprisoned in Peru. I have fear to kill me, "sobbed the confessed murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez (21) to the authorities, the newspaper said today Trome. Therefore asked to provide security, he feels that they hate.

    The publication also revealed that Van der Sloot said he wanted dialogue with U.S. authorities and disclose the whereabouts of the girl Natalee Holloway, disappeared on the island since 2005, but instead wanted to enable it to serve his sentence in Aruba.

    FACT

    ◦ orders were included Van der Sloot's statement, which was annexed in the police report that was handed over to prosecutors.


    BOO-HOO Miss Urina big balless Bitch,,you always picked on tiny girls and defenseless animals, now how does it feel??

    OH KARMA you outdid yourself on this one!!!!!


    Anybody wanna bet how long it takes for him to throw dead Daddy van der Coot under the bus???
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy135 View Post
    http://peru21.pe/noticia/493854/van-...-maten-prision





    BOO-HOO Miss Urina big balless Bitch,,you always picked on tiny girls and defenseless animals, now how does it feel??

    OH KARMA you outdid yourself on this one!!!!!


    Anybody wanna bet how long it takes for him to throw dead Daddy van der Coot under the bus???
    Hahaha I called that 2 days ago
    Thats the only reason he wanted to go there and talk to Aruba police
    Peru wont do it,they in a sense dont care about the legalities of Nartalees case
    They want him in their country and after 35 yrs hopefully by then they have everything to try him and put him away again for life

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    On SM,,,this is a very interesting theory but with the translation it's kinda funny,,,


    In today's Diario, someone from Holland submitted this theory about where Natalee's body may have been hidden.

    http://www.diario.aw/2010/06/mi-opin...talee-ta-dera/

    Papiamentu translation:

    my opinion encuanto the lugar where natalee is bury

    publication: saturday, 12 june 2010.

    categoria: general remitido

    make a note by diario: the relato here owing to worde ricibi by one person dutch, residencia at earth frieu. past owing to come is follow the storia by the caso here by quite time, haciendo anotacion, lesando complete documento, y the self owing to saca one teoria on thing the is think, cu kizas owing to socede, y where natalee is bury. at 2008 past owing to even come till aruba before so present her teoria at ministerio publico, because also at autoridad mericano. but till still, the is feel cu neither person owing to haci caso cu her teoria. at present the is trece before daily paper, before so folk self read this y saca they conclusion.

    Google (Dutch) translation:

    Bon Dia,
    The search for Natalee Holloway's body is characterized by an important fact: the blind spot!

    Too much Telang and the bizarre and cruel lies of Joran listened and it seems that no one sound, common sense is used.

    While there are many complex scenarios were devised, the solution of this mystery is so easy and all those years was her body literally right under your noses.

    As I then just after the broadcast of Peter R. de Vries to him and to two detectives in Almere was declared Joran 'confession' a big distraction and Joran and Patrick played under a hat.

    Recently, this latter fact confirmed by nota bene Joran himself, but his last real swamp story it was like old times at the biggest hogwash.

    During the months of March and April 2008, I had regular telephone contact with the parents of Natalee, especially with Dave Holloway, as he had occupied in the actual searches on Aruba.

    When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott hung, for me this was the reason for further investigation.

    I contacted dr.Jantz the "Body Farm" in Knoxville and gave him the necessary information needed for the time when her body was consumed to provide evidence.

    I gave him the day and night temperature of Aruba in June, her body weight, which she wore swimsuits, was tucked away somewhere, but not buried!

    It's an important, busy person and I am just a nobody, but he gave me the day after its conclusion: about two weeks!

    That was my reason to go deeper into this matter to dig and gradually brought more confirmation of my theory.

    Ironically, the Joran himself who in his book me two very important clues gave!

    Under Section 4 of the overview map of Aruba statement: "The Marriott hotel where Natalee was staying" (!) When everyone knows that she stayed at the Holiday Inn.

    And on page 50, chapter "Girlfriends" he calls one Jillian, where he had a half years with dating and that she is the daughter of someone involved in the construction of the Marriott.

    Natalee's father wrote about a key found in the car of Deepak, who claimed that his mother, but before that could be verified lost 'n cop the key and then everyone forgot about its existence.

    It was as clear to me now like a lump of how the fork in the stem was and why I asked in mid-May 2008 Chief Moss to take action and show it to initiate investigations on the former site of the Marriott Aruba Surf Club.

    But what joke my surprise when he claimed that he sent in my email, stating my full theory, with drawings and all, could not open because the show PDF document was!?

    Since he was to obtain 's search warrant to show a well-founded story at the court commissioner to knock, and he not therefore had was his proposal to the Marriott to seek voluntarily to cooperate with the investigation.

    The same day I had the manager of the Marriott on the line and despite my assurance that the entire viewing exercise utmost discretion would go and show minor damage to the hotel would be caused, he is tough and I got zero on the petition .

    My request to Mr. Moss for copies of the drawings were rejected, there was absolutely no understanding and cooperation.

    My disappointment was great, but not quickly give up because I decided I was on my way to and vijtien months later I went to Aruba end of August 2009 and went right along with the DOW for photos of the drawings of the Marriott to make.

    Diving experience, I got off a perforated eardrum and was therefore ill and only returned to the Netherlands I could calm these drawings and studies on 7 September 2009 I thought for ninety percent sure to know where the body of Natalee was blocked.

    Now this sounds pretty arrogant, so let me therefore first the facts show this straight, with my theory and then you can decide for yourself whether this really holds water or whether I'm a big dreamer.

    FACTS

    Joran suffered from behavioral problems (tantrums, steal, drink and gambling) and walked them to show a psychiatrist.

    He had a site up promoting violence and rape, which incidentally just after the disappearance of Natalee was quickly removed.

    When Joran and Natalee were deposited after that nobody has seen together, which is weird because for 's festival in the early hours, there were more people present than usual on the beach.

    The radar that night has no maritime activity.

    Joran has neither the police nor the ambulance was called.

    He'd just after her disappearance scratches on his face.

    His shoes had disappeared.

    When he came home early in the morning he visited here still show a porn site, despite the fact that he was the same day 's exam was.

    All designated by Joran denied complicity in all keys.

    Joran was 1.5 years courting the daughter of someone who was involved in the construction of the Marriott.

    There was a key found in Deepak's car, but was subsequently lost.

    Shortly after her disappearance appeared on the site of "Scared Monkeys" messages from one Shango, with all sorts of cryptic text and one of them was:
    "Why did not His Lordship bring the key found in the car"

    There was over two weeks' n nasty smell around the site of the Marriott Aruba Surf Club.

    There was never sought because at night 's lock on the gate Sat

    Dave Holloway told me that one day "short-cut was between the parking lot of the Marriott and the Holiday Inn.

    Joran says in the "secret" recording of Peter R. de Vries, two remarkable things:

    "If they find her, I am the dick" what even bevreemt Patrick, because he responds by saying:

    "She's totally gone" and indeed, the sea knew much, if not all traces of his tail and later stoned to himself and he says:

    "They will never find her ... ... .... I think"

    He has his own dog 'n' paint ballgun "finished.

    By the time Marriott were many dog carcasses found.

    Without help anyone can show up to two hundred meters fresh corpse hoot.

    Despite intensive searches at sea with sonar on land with dogs and prods in the caves, lime kilns, draining of lakes and aerial photos of F-16 remained untraceable Natalee all these years.

    As the show befits good detective, I also speculation and I moved into the position of Joran.

    Here then is what my theory that night on May 30, 2005 has played:

    Joran has his eye on Natalee drop, but it's not the standard adolescent who love butterflies in his belly.

    No, he's not really the battle that can maintain normal contact with women and is only out for sex and in fact he can not a girl decorate, because most of the feeling that he was not entirely consistent.

    He and Natalee in Carlos'n Charlie's agreed and slowly puts her drunk so that they later, when he gets the chance to pounce, is not on her guard.

    Around closing time ran Carlos'n Charlie's empty, and searched all transportation to their hotels.

    Joran Natalee separated from her group and suggested a taxi.

    Because taxis in Aruba are all different in appearance, it was a cinch to her in the back of Deepak get.

    They drove to the California Lighthouse, Natalee wanted to see sharks, but they stopped for no reason and eventually they returned and were guests of the Marriott Joran and Natalee off.

    Joran suggested 'n' short-cut to take, walked to the fence around the site and open it. ... With my key (!)

    Their right is the Marriott Aruba Surf Club Phase 3, in terms of structure is finished and only needs to be finished and left, a row of containers.

    Joran suggests that stars and look at Natalee's remark that there is already a roof on the hotel is right, then he points to show a small building at the very end of the site.

    If your building plan of the hotel on Google Earth satellite image of June 22, 2005 submit, you will find that this building is the start of the emergency stairwell # 3 of "The Spyglass Tower".

    They run inside, climb on the landing, go through the stairs to the first floor and steps in a "half" room, which later the space behind the elevators would be.

    They go on the floor and stare together in love to the beautiful sky and everything is nice and peaceful.

    But the true nature of man is only then upwards when there are no witnesses, because there is nothing from that horrible change, it's a beast, because suddenly brutally raped Natalee and Joran then breaks her neck!

    He then takes her in his arms and running down the stairs and puts her on the landing.

    He jumps down, pulls her into the hallway and grabbed a fire with a twist smacks her on the ground.

    Then he pushes the sand to crawl away and he pulls Natalee at her feet inside.

    He crawls to the end of the room and stuffed with sand near the crack.

    His shoes, where blood is, he kicks off and leaves behind this spot.

    He squeezes out again and again, he then closed the gap with sand and will then smiling, barefoot into the night.

    I have this information to the Diario passed, because I just think that the Aruban entitled to it!

    By sick minds that Joran and eight actual boycott then, thanks for all your help, the whole island which is unnecessary and unjustified much damage.

    By among other things because I not taken seriously and they offered my services and knowledge not appreciate, I hereby the Aruban people judge the credibility of my theory.
    Hopefully this tip with this black chapter is finally closed and Aruba One Happy Island weather really!

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    Joran van der Sloot very much loved by fellow inmates.

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    This is for you Echo,



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    fuck me, fuck you, fuck my life, and fuck the world.

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    hey whisper you won the Throw Daddy Under The Bus wager before it started,,,good work! Now here's another facet of the blankie question; it can be used to hid your face in the "Walk of Dammed" but also to protect your noggin from the various objects pelting it. Honestly some of these translated articles are truly hysterical, I look forward to reading them. I don't want to disrespect the Flores family in any way, what a class act they are ~ such polar opposites of the Family of the Ditch.

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    'Murderer, you will die in jail! "
    By M. Beteta
    El extranjero llevaba las manos y pies enmarrocados.

    Gringo murderer! You will die in jail! Where's the body of your other victim! ". With these words full of anger and resentment, shouted loudly, bystanders and relatives of some prisoners vented their anger against the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (23) confessed murderer Stephany Flores (21), while being transferred to the prison 'Castro Castro. "

    Such was the fury of the crowd almost lynched him. As the police formed a shield around him, threw garbage in front of the premises of the Permanent Court Time, located in the block 5 Abancay Avenue. From there he was taken under tight security at the courthouse lockup.

    By the time he was taken into an ambulance, along with 11 other detainees, they threw a plastic bag with tangerine peel and bits of toilet paper used.

    Others threw a piece of mud that nearly falls on his head, while the insults grew louder.

    The stranger had his hands and feet enmarrocados. He tried to cover his head with a blanket, but the curious and relatives of other detainees pulled her, leaving her face uncovered.

    After addressing the ambulance INPE, was born in just fifteen minutes to the lockup of the Judiciary, heavily guarded.

    Head down

    When they reached the Palace of Justice, the Cotabambas shred the murderer was the last to come down after the other detainees.

    The soldiers forced him to bow his head to enter the lockup. In that seat was the head of INPE, Ruben Rodriguez Rabanal.

    Two hours later, the Dutchman ambulance raised again and this time he was transferred directly only maximum security prison "Castro Castro", located in the area of Canto Grande, San Juan de Lurigancho.

    When leaving the lockup of the Judiciary, the alien again been the target of insults from all calibers and even some women tried to approach him to hit him with their portfolios and journals, but police prevented him. The agents, who had formed a cordon to protect it, prevented the attack.


    HAHA,,,this was is a doozy!!
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    So sorry momma, it was quite a workout reading that LOL

    Hope this is a little easier on the eyes,,posted on SM,








    ON GERALDO:

    Jossy Mansur said he people in Aruba believe he murdered Natalee.

    Mark Fuhrman said there is something we don't know that is going in with Joran. He doesn't think the murders were premeditated.

    Bo Deitle is receiving critical mail. He said FBI had to 10-12 agents in Aruba. They had the cooperation of the Aruba government. They had statement (jackpot statements).

    He said the Aruba goverment is at fault here and he is sick and tired of getting emails that it's his and John Kelly's fault.

    Geraldo said that coming up next is an eye witness that places Paulus and Joran at the scene of the crime (Natalee's) in Aruba.

    New witness: 4 or 5 in the morning with skinny hair, missing a shoe and seemed exhausted. May 30th. "Jay" is the witness. He saw a vehicle, red jeep with a white cap. Driving was a middle aged white man, looking right and left. He didn't report it because the news article said the man was a lawyer with Van der Stratten as a friend and he was afraid. He went to Tim Miller and took a polygraph. He passed the test.
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    thanks i'm not an utter moron. i know where Peru is, plus my sister lives in Australia and it's definitely winter there.
    Uhhh...I didn't answer your question because I thought you were an utter moron. I looked at it as an honest question of curiosity and I gave it an honest answer.

    I'll be sure to keep my fingers off the keyboard next time something like this comes up. My apologies.

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    http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Ne...-aan-Aruba.htm

    Joran wants to "exchange" Natalee for extradition to Aruba

    Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:36

    Joran van der Sloot, the Peruvian police offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is dumped, if he will then be transferred to a jail in Aruba. Van der Sloot is now in prison notorious Peruvian Castro Castro.

    This was told by Yolanda Onoc, spokes person of the Peruvian police, Diricri. Transfer is impossible because the Peruvian president, Alan Garcia, has determined that Van der Sloot will have to serve his sentence in Peru.

    Aruba, part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, also has no extradition treaty with Peru.

    Murder
    Van der Sloot has been charged with the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramírez. He has confessed that he killed her. There is in Peru up to 35 years imprisonment for murder.

    Van der Sloot is currently in Castro Castro prison. Because authorities feared that inmates will do anything to him, Joran has a cell for himself. He would nevertheless be terrified, Peruvian media reported.

    Van der Sloot has often tried to make a profit off his knowledge of the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway. Apparently he tried before he went to Peru, Holloway's mother to extort information about where her body was hidden. The FBI would have paid.

    Joran van der Sloot is still the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway case from 2005, but he could never be prosecuted. This is because her body was never found.

    Several explanations
    Previously explained Van der Sloot certain internal statements about Holloway's death and the place where he would have hidden her body. By Peter R. De Vries' undercover officer Patrick van der Eem said Joran that Natalee died on the beach and that he dumped her body into the sea.

    Against Golden Cage winner Jaap Amesz 'known' Joran, for a sum that Natalee after drinking and drug use fell from the balcony and her body dumped in a swamp.

    Van der Sloot has also been said that Natalee is not dead, but that he had sold as sex slaves.
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    I had wondered what that Fancyboy Goliath's tattoo meant, from SM


    I read this on another blog.

    "And Joren Van Der Sloot needs to get at least half of his tattoo removed, so instead of reading 'No Worries' in Thai, it will read, simply, 'Worries' -- because this slippery character has a lot of 'em".
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