Caylee Chat I

[orangeduckfuzz]

There have been some crazy developments in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony.

As you are aware, Tim Miller, director and founder of Texas EquuSearch, announced yesterday that the search for Caylee was being suspended. Tim said that he felt he had done all he could to find Caylee right now and that he needed to move on to help the family of another missing person.

While all of this was going on yesterday, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla approached Tim and told him that he needed to send divers into the Little Econ River in Blanchard Park. Padilla was convinced that Caylle would be found in the water there, based upon the discovery of a cross necklace that EquuSearch team member Lisa Hoffman had found on a nearby tree during the first search effort. That necklace, according to Padilla, had beads on it that were "identical" to beads that the female bounty hunter (the one who stayed in the house when Casey was out on bond) had seen on jewelry that Casey had allegedly made.

Leonard's theory was that Casey Anthony had transported a deceased Caylee to the park, hung the cross on a tree branch and then threw her in the water.

"I had my people use side-scan sonar to examine that water yesterday and then I went back myself and checked it again," Tim Miller said today in an interview with Investigation Discovery. "I told Leonard that it only takes an hour to scan it and that we had put four or five hours into it just so there would be no question as to whether she was there. I can tell u where every tire is at, I can show you where there is a bucket, where there is an old wheelbarrow and fender from a car. I can show you how deep the water is in every place and what the water temperature is. There is not a body in there."

Despite the fact that Tim had cleared the river, Leonard contacted an amateur news site and made the announcement during a live Internet feed. What followed was a media frenzy, which has left Tim Miller with a sour taste in his mouth.

"We are associated in no way with the actions of Leonard Padilla," Tim told Investigation Discovery. "

Tim also expressed that he was upset with CNN's Nancy Grace, whom he also finds at fault.

Nancy grace wanted me to come do her show tonight and I said absolutely not," Tim said. "I told her producer that this is the "Leonard Padilla Show" and that I did not want anything to do with it. I said this is not Leonard's fault, this is Nancy Graces fault. She puts the clown on TV every night to entertain the public and as a result that has distracted everyone from everything we have been trying to do out here. It is the Leonard Padilla show now and Nancy Grace gave him the power to do it. Leonard has a fan club out there and it has totally turned this into a circus."

Leonard did end up getting a team of divers in the water today. While that search was going on, George and Cindy Anthony arrived on the scene and argued with Padilla about a vigil he is going to have for Caylee tomorrow morning. Cindy told Padilla that he was not doing anything good for Caylee and then threatened to sue him.

Cindy also made a stop at the command post today, during which time she had a pleasant meeting with Tim Miller.

Meanwhile, nothing at all was found during Padilla's search effort.

In regards to Padilla's future search efforts, Tim Miller had this to say:

"I do not care what he does; I just don’t want anything to do with any of it. This is not about Caylee to them. The Anthony's are being exploited by all of them and it affects our effort. Everyone wants to go over there with Leonard and his drama show BS. It is affecting the concentration of what we are trying to do. "

In related news, despite the fact that Tim Miller and his core Team are leaving for N.C., a group of local EquuSearch members are now going to continue the search. They will keep Tim notified of any developments and will be in regular contact with one of the search coordinators.

I will be leaving her tomorrow morning and will be riding with EquuSearch, in the command center RV, to North Carolina, where I will remain until Friday.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...have-been.html

I didn't see where this had already been posted.

[MadmamainNC]

You mean save her in the VERY end, or just as far as legal consequences goes?
Because even if she came clean now (as clean as she could get which isn't very I'm afraid) she'd still be facing a boatload of charges.

The very end. There's no getting her out of these other charges.

[Turtletop]

Thanks for posting that for us. I knew Tim was a little upset about all that LP was doing. I personally can not blame him. LP has always tried to steal the show in my opinion and make it all about him. He always wants to be in the spot light for publicity! He is right Nance Grace has him on and seriously he never has any news that we all have not already heard unless it was off the wall shit! I respect Tim and glad that Tim did not give him the chance to slide in behind him and all his great efforts!

I am disappointed that there was nothing found this time, but I have to remember that there is "absolutly" no clues as to where her body rests....we know her soul is in heaven. I understand that there are other families out there that need his help and I am glad that he has decided to spread the efforts!

[orangeduckfuzz]

The private investigator working with the Anthonys to locate Caylee Marie believes Casey Anthony is a "loving and protective mother."

Dominic Casey, head of D & A Investigations, Inc., the agency working with the Anthony family to find Casey Anthony's missing daughter, spoke exclusively with momlogic. And he vehemently believes the three-year-old is alive.

"You can call me crazy," says Dominic, who has been a private investigator for 20 years. "Everyone is calling me crazy. I get death threats on a daily basis."

With all the evidence mounting against Caylee's mother Casey, it seems like a long shot the little girl will ever come home. From the mysterious "nanny" Casey claimed was watching after Caylee, to her chloroform recipe search, the partying and -- most of all -- Casey's father George's revelation that he noticed the "familiar" stench of death in the trunk of Casey's car.

Whatever George Anthony smelled, Dominic is convinced it was not Caylee Marie. "There is no indication in any of the forensic reports," insists Dominic, "that say that the decomposition was of a human nature. They are all inconclusive. "

Dominic Casey says he is still actively searching for clues, just has he has been since days after Caylee's disappearance -- all pro bono. "We offered our services to the Anthonys and since then we have not taken one cent from them. It's not about the money. One's ability to pay should not deny the right to available resources, especially in the case of missing child."

In addition to his ongoing investigation, Dominic speaks with the Anthonys on a daily basis. "George and Cindy are good people living a nightmare." And he stresses at no time have the Anthonys ever doubted the innocence of their daughter. "Absolutely not. Never. They completely support Casey." But, he adds, "I would never give them false hope." Dominic has also spoken many times with Casey, meeting with her in Orange County Jail early as August. "She is absolutely distraught," says Dominic when asked about her demeanor on these visits, "I cannot imagine what that girl is going through."

Ultimately, Dominic is sick of the sensationalism that surrounds this case. "Please, stop the negativity," he pleads. In his opinion, one detail that keeps feeding the media frenzy is law enforcement' s release of nearly 1000 tips from psychics to the public -- not legitimate Caylee sightings. "The Sheriff's department claims they are withholding the tips because they are currently investigating them. But that's impossible," Dominic says, adding "There are in excess of 5,000 tips. By withholding the tips of people who say they saw Caylee Marie, it just fuels the public opinion that Caylee Marie is no longer with us. And that is untrue."

For some, Dominic realizes it's difficult to understand how he or, for that matter the Anthonys, can have hope for Caylee Marie's safe return. Dominic puts the question directly to parents. "What if your child disappeared and there was no conclusive evidence that the child was dead, would you give up the search?"

Another search begins today, this one led by Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter who helped post Casey Anthony's bail. Padilla is heading up a dive team searching a river in the Orlando area. As with the Equusearch effort, Dominic says he would be absolutely devastated if Caylee's remains were found. "I would fall apart. I would not believe the remains were of Caylee Marie. Not for one minute would I believe Casey would do that to her child. I've spent many hours with her and she is a loving and protective mother."

(--- momlogic.com)

I don't remember this guy visiting Casey in jail????????????? But I think he's OD'd on the kool-aid.

[Peeperann]

Has anyone heard about the Caylee Law? They are trying to get a law passed to hold parents, guardians and relatives responsible for not reporting their children missing within 24 hrs.

Here is a link about it...Hope it hasn't already been covered.

http://www.cayleememorial.com/cayleeslaw.html

I am so completely excited about this!! I hope all works out. What a way to honor our baby! Please God let it come to fruition.

[MadmamainNC]

The private investigator working with the Anthonys to locate Caylee Marie believes Casey Anthony is a "loving and protective mother."

Adj. 1. delirious - experiencing delirium
hallucinating
ill, sick - affected by an impairment of normal physical or mental function; "ill from the monotony of his suffering"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/delirious

"You can call me crazy," says Dominic, who has been a private investigator for 20 years. "Everyone is calling me crazy. I get death threats on a daily basis."

<<< CRAZY

Adj. 1. crazy - affected with madness or insanity; "a man who had gone mad"
brainsick, demented, unhinged, unbalanced, mad, sick, disturbed


Noun 1. crazy - someone deranged and possibly dangerous
looney, loony, nutcase, weirdo
colloquialism - a colloquial expression; characteristic of spoken or written communication that seeks to imitate informal speech
lunatic, madman, maniac - an insane person

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crazy

[Peeperann]

I didn't see where this had already been posted.

Orange and everyone else, please don't worry about double posting in this thread, no one is going to bitch at all!!

So please feel free to just post away!! This isn't the old thread where everyone got pissed at double posts

[orangeduckfuzz]

Search Continues...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:38 pm
SEARCH UPDATES:

Have spoken with Wyatt and he is going to continue the search in Orlando and other area's the team has concerns. We will not be posting details of searches we feel could comprise the teams activities. I would also encourage readers to visit the new live video chat at www.sostv.us and search updates www.nostoneunturned.info. We also desperately need cavador dogs and their handles, and in most cases will not search without them. If you're are to assist, please contact Wyatt at wyatt@nostoneunturned.info. We will not mark areas cleared until we're certain dogs have searched every square inch of the property. TES did not want our maps or assistance again, so we're no longer offering it.

Brian

11.09.2008
SOS Team announces they will resume the search for Caylee Anthony on Saturday 11.15.08

I found this posted on the nostoneunturned site. They are the group The Body Hunter, a group of psychic, mediums and dreamers who are also working on the case. I wish they could just say "here she is" and go get her.....but at least they are continuing to look.

[Rockin Ma]

I copied and pasted from the other thread in case that one isn't being used anymore and edited it a little

My opinion on Cindy & George Anthony and attorney client protected information:
Without them knowing exactly what happened, I'm sure they have been advised by their daughter's attorney that to help their daughter they need to publicly believe in her, and appear to believe Caylee is alive and taken by someone to conform with what their daughter has stated. I know behind closed attorney doors its been explained that if her own parents can't believe her, how can a jury (if prosecutors seek death). I think they've made it their mission to do this and it has kept them very busy. I bet if they took time out trying to twart efforts to find her body, reality would hit, they'd have their own thoughts, have a realization and break down. They are still being controlled and manipulated by their daughter, as they have always been.
I know many people say you don't know unless it's happened to you... regardless, I can't see anyone picking their grown daughter over their toddler grandchild. I just don't think they've been given an opportunity to make that choice because they're puppets right now doing what they are told to do. I'm just not buying into them being in denial. They just appear that way. Just my opinion.

[orangeduckfuzz]

I think I need an intervention........I THINK I'M a TROLL!!!! I just realized that I lurk around other sites and blogs just to get new info and bring it back here......

[orangeduckfuzz]

I copied and pasted from the other thread in case that one isn't being used anymore and edited it a little

My opinion on Cindy & George Anthony and attorney client protected information:
Without them knowing exactly what happened, I'm sure they have been advised by their daughter's attorney that to help their daughter they need to publicly believe in her, and appear to believe Caylee is alive and taken by someone to conform with what their daughter has stated. I know behind closed attorney doors its been explained that if her own parents can't believe her, how can a jury (if prosecutors seek death). I think they've made it their mission to do this and it has kept them very busy. I bet if they took time out trying to twart efforts to find her body, reality would hit, they'd have their own thoughts, have a realization and break down. They are still being controlled and manipulated by their daughter, as they have always been.
I know many people say you don't know unless it's happened to you... regardless, I can't see anyone picking their grown daughter over their toddler grandchild. I just don't think they've been given an opportunity to make that choice because they're puppets right now doing what they are told to do. I'm just not buying into them being in denial. They just appear that way. Just my opinion.

I agree whole-heartedly that Casey is continuing to control and manipulate this family in her own sick twisted way. I also agree that they have been coached that the best defense is a united front and that they should publicly support Casey. However, I strongly disagree that they are not in denial. In my opinion, Denial is the buffer that is allowing them to go along with the charade. If they took an unbiased, unemotional look at the evidence I believe they would see her guilt. In fact, I believe that they have, in those first moments of finding that Caylee is missing Cindy even questioned Casey "What have you done". Again, I believe they are denying the truth.

[Rhoni]

I think I need an intervention........I THINK I'M a TROLL!!!! I just realized that I lurk around other sites and blogs just to get new info and bring it back here......

now that was funny..Thanks for the laugh...I love the word lurk

[Angelinfl]

In addition to his ongoing investigation, Dominic speaks with the Anthonys on a daily basis. "George and Cindy are good people living a nightmare." And he stresses at no time have the Anthonys ever doubted the innocence of their daughter. "Absolutely not. Never. They completely support Casey." But, he adds, "I would never give them false hope." Dominic has also spoken many times with Casey, meeting with her in Orange County Jail early as August. "She is absolutely distraught," says Dominic when asked about her demeanor on these visits, "I cannot imagine what that girl is going through."

Ultimately, Dominic is sick of the sensationalism that surrounds this case. "Please, stop the negativity," he pleads. In his opinion, one detail that keeps feeding the media frenzy is law enforcement' s release of nearly 1000 tips from psychics to the public -- not legitimate Caylee sightings. "The Sheriff's department claims they are withholding the tips because they are currently investigating them. But that's impossible," Dominic says, adding "There are in excess of 5,000 tips. By withholding the tips of people who say they saw Caylee Marie, it just fuels the public opinion that Caylee Marie is no longer with us. And that is untrue."

For some, Dominic realizes it's difficult to understand how he or, for that matter the Anthonys, can have hope for Caylee Marie's safe return. Dominic puts the question directly to parents. "What if your child disappeared and there was no conclusive evidence that the child was dead, would you give up the search?"

Another search begins today, this one led by Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter who helped post Casey Anthony's bail. Padilla is heading up a dive team searching a river in the Orlando area. As with the Equusearch effort, Dominic says he would be absolutely devastated if Caylee's remains were found. "I would fall apart. I would not believe the remains were of Caylee Marie. Not for one minute would I believe Casey would do that to her child. I've spent many hours with her and she is a loving and protective mother."

(--- momlogic.com)

I don't remember this guy visiting Casey in jail????????????? But I think he's OD'd on the kool-aid.

So this could be a defense strategy if there is no body found that all the tips were not adequately investigated which would provide a reasonable doubt. Is this ALL THE DEFENSE HAS UP THEIR SLEEVE... Duh

[Rhoni]

What is it about this bitch that has these people so damn fooled..Or are they really? I seem to remember in the beginning someone saying cindy said not to talk to casey cause she is psycho or something like that..In G's interview he says how much she lies..Knowing these things make me agree that it is the defense working..

casey doesnt care who she hurts or whos life she fucks up cant her family see this..My prayer is that George sees the light..He should go to casey and say "ok I have had it if you want my support in any way in the future you tell me the truth..He needs to practice tough love..I know he knows Caylee is gone..He needs to be the strong one here and tell both casey and cindy to go fuck themselves...

Doesnt he realize how many people really care? Richard Grund said it right they should be proud that Caylee has touched so many...

George people want to embrace you too they are on the fence why dont you do the right thing and let the world know you really care about Caylee

[Sister Iroz]

"What if your child disappeared and there was no conclusive evidence that the child was dead, would you give up the search?"

First of all, I would have actually been out there searching every where under the sun. We know the Anthony's had a tip line and were receiving some, but did you see them actually act on the tip? I didn't hear about it if they did and I'm sure if they did it would have been in the NEWSPAPERS AND ALL OVER THE NEWS! So they never themselves searched so how do you give up the search if you didn't do it in the first place.

Now conclusive evidence, no I probably wouldn't but where the hell does he think they don't have conclusive evidence. He doesn't know anymore than we do and what we know I feel they are justified for charging her on Murder I. That doesn't mean I think she will be convicted for it but at least a felony murder or manslalughter.

And he stresses at no time have the Anthonys ever doubted the innocence of their daughter. "

I don't believe this to be true. I believe George in his interviews which were recently open to the public very much suggests he doubted his daughter Casey. More than several times he commented on doubting her and even though he physically was sick and upset from saying it.

Okay we all know the Cindy comment, it smells like there has been a dead body in the car and the comment when she walked in on Lee and Casey talking. Her response to that was Casey, what did you do? So again, I would say yes there was doubt there as well. Mind you we are talking doubt not convinced.

[tray-bay-bay]

You mean save her in the VERY end, or just as far as legal consequences goes?
Because even if she came clean now (as clean as she could get which isn't very I'm afraid) she'd still be facing a boatload of charges.

Not sure what Madmama meant, but I believe it will save her in the VERY end for all eternity. She should still be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

[Smore9564]

[QUOTE=

Many people wear a cross because they think people will react to them differently or think they are a better person than they actually are. It's a way to tell OTHER people. I think the true believers and the ones who walk the walk and not just "talk the talk" do not ever need to wear a cross because they carry their faith within their hearts.


My .02[/QUOTE]

Many people wear a cross as a reminder to themselves and as a show of faith. Not a "show off of faith". Saying that people wear a cross so people will think of them differently could be true in some cases, take movie stars/rockstars etc. I feel that just sounds like someone who doesnt believe in God coming up with a reason people wear them. Often times I wear one when I travel as just an extra way to have some comfort when I'm scared. No... I dont think the cross will save me. and I can certainly bring up mental images in my mind, but its more of a comfort. I certainly dont expect people that dont have faith to understand that. But to say people wear them because they think they are better is silly.

[Sister Iroz]

take movie stars/rockstars etc.

I believe quite a few are in the Church of Scientology

[MadmamainNC]

I think I need an intervention........I THINK I'M a TROLL!!!! I just realized that I lurk around other sites and blogs just to get new info and bring it back here......

<<<< trolls

<<<<< OrangeDuckFuzz.

Not the same...lol

Anyway, my thanks button finally broke so I couldn't thank ya so I sent this instead.

edited for link...
If you want more to express your orangeduckfuzz emotions... here they are. You just save them to file and put them in photobucket to use later.
http://www.msnloadersite.com/msn_emo...moticon%20Duck

[tray-bay-bay]

I wholeheartedly agree that GA and CA are stating publicly that they believe in Casey 100% as a defense strategy. From GA's interviews released recently it's obvious he knows Caylee is dead and Casey at the very least is trying to cover everything up. What he's doing privately and publicly are probably two totally different things. I don't know about Cindy. From the looks of her in the last video I saw she looks like she might finally be moving out of denial. She looks terribly distraught and drained. I sincerely believe GA would have killed Casey with his own hands a long time ago if it weren't for CA. For whatever reason, I believe he truly loves CA and is trying to do everything he can to protect her. As he said in his interview...if they find something to prove to CA that Caylee's dead, he wants to know first as it will kill her. IMHO he's only trying to protect CA.

I don't condone anything they've done throughout this entire nightmare. I think they've handled everything horribly. As I've said before, I don't ever want to know what I'd do if I were in their shoes. They must be thinking it was an accident one minute and a cold calculated murder the next. Life does not prepare you to deal with something like this. I'm not excusing what they've done I just think they're suffering unimaginable pain.

I also remember having a conversation with my 13 y/o daughter where I told her "You are my child. You can't do anything that will make me NOT love you. A mother's love is unconditional. You may do things I don't approve of. You may do things that make me not like you. I will always love you".

Sorry if this is confusing or long-winded. Normally I'm very judgmental. For whatever reason I have some (not much in some cases) compassion for everyone in the Anthony family (except for Casey).

[Smore9564]

I know my responses are kind of sparatic and there are few of them.. I'm having problems with this site. I have to resign in every time I go to another page.. and have had to start at the last page and work back. I couldnt get on here last night at all. I'm muddling through it..but it sucks.

Hope you guys are all well.. I'm slowing finding out how everyone is doing.. "in a backwards kind of way".

[Smore9564]

[QUOTE=Peeperann;85242]The doctors think I should be a miracle worker and it should take 2 seconds to get a med covered. They don't seem to understand that every insurance carrier has it's rules and the hoops I have to jump thru are insane!!

QUOTE]

OK.. like I said.. I'm having site issues. peep, I know we've chatted about this in the past, since I deal with rx's too.. but oh my word... How testy these providers get!!! I saw one write back on a prior auth form, when asked for the reason a certain diabetes med was needed "BECAUSE SHE'S A FREAKIN DIABETIC"... Now.. my first thought, being a diabetic, was Yes!!! ha hah.. that is hilarious, but then.. when I thought about it.. I was like.. oh man.. I hope the person that gets this is cool!! LOL The providers definitley feel that they should never be questioned. I deal with this daily. And sometimes when I have to call, I pray that it's you that I'll get!!! ha ha

[RaVen Blackehart]

"Yesterday, I reported on the circus surrounding the case of Casey Anthony and her missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Since I arrived in Orlando, Florida, last week, I have seen both positive and negative coverage surrounding this entire ordeal. What I have not seen is anything about the people who have volunteered their time for the search effort.

One of those people was Larry, a 40-something-year-old man who volunteered. Larry has terminal cancer and has been told by his doctors that he has less than a month to live. Despite his condition, Larry chose to spend his time working at the registration booth, helping sign in other volunteers. What he did was one of the most touching and selfless acts I have ever witnessed."

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...ories-beh.html

[tankgirl]

"Yesterday, I reported on the circus surrounding the case of Casey Anthony and her missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. Since I arrived in Orlando, Florida, last week, I have seen both positive and negative coverage surrounding this entire ordeal. What I have not seen is anything about the people who have volunteered their time for the search effort.

One of those people was Larry, a 40-something-year-old man who volunteered. Larry has terminal cancer and has been told by his doctors that he has less than a month to live. Despite his condition, Larry chose to spend his time working at the registration booth, helping sign in other volunteers. What he did was one of the most touching and selfless acts I have ever witnessed."

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...ories-beh.html

Thanks for that; it's nice to hear something uplifting.

[Sister Iroz]

One of those people was Larry, a 40-something-year-old man who volunteered. Larry has terminal cancer and has been told by his doctors that he has less than a month to live. Despite his condition, Larry chose to spend his time working at the registration booth, helping sign in other volunteers. What he did was one of the most touching and selfless acts I have ever witnessed."

Now that's a hero in my book how incredible to have done a kind deed when he has less than a month to live. Wish others would be more like this gentleman.


Sorry no thanks so Thank you Raven for such uplifting news.

[MadmamainNC]

I'm out too and that one deserved and extra Thanks Raven. So I leave you a kittycon



OK.. when do they replenish since this is the first time my well has run dry?

[witzah]

what if G & A know casey did it but are acting this way in concert with the defense to present reasonable doubt & save their daughter (preventing prison system from having her & letting judicial system punish her) - but -

after the trial & in the event of an acquittal, G & A plan on spilling the beans & punishing casey this way (then cutting ties?) she couldnt be tried again so G & A's conscience could be relieved & allegiance 2 caylee shown - but without giving casey prison & allowing them to feel like they did as much 4 casey as possible but now she's on her own.

doubtful - but thought just popped in my head

[Trish]

Good Morning Everyone.
Hope everyone had a great evening.
Now I need to try to catch up alittle.

[Sister Iroz]

what if G & A know casey did it but are acting this way in concert with the defense to present reasonable doubt & save their daughter (preventing prison system from having her & letting judicial system punish her) - but -

after the trial & in the event of an acquittal, G & A plan on spilling the beans & punishing casey this way (then cutting ties?) she couldnt be tried again so G & A's conscience could be relieved & allegiance 2 caylee shown - but without giving casey prison & allowing them to feel like they did as much 4 casey as possible but now she's on her own.

Witzah, it's actually a very good thought! I can understand the Defense Team asking for them to believe in her daughter so they can make a case. If they didn't believe in her and were admitting she committed this hideous crime then they would be shit out of luck.

But I do believe IF BIG IF she was acquitted, G & A would then turn against her. Actually, G may go after her with no one holding him back :). Just food for thought. But damn I sure hope she gets at least felony murder or manslaughter. However, IF she was acquitted she will be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life. Why, we no there are crazies out there and I would bet someone would stalk her and eventually pounce.

[Sister Iroz]

Oh and GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! Sorry but still out of thanks, but I love all here and there posts. I know I've found GREAT FRIENDS here a place I can come for everything and anything on here or things going on in my life.

Still having an excruciating headache!