Caylee Chat I

[syngal]

Everyone
Congrats to you Maggie
Thank you Witza for answering my question, very interesting events unfolding.

Off topic:
It snowed here! It started last night, and of course we lost electricity for a few hours, thankfully it was while I was asleep. Of course during the day it's not cold enough during the day, so the snow started melting and turns to slush, but it's still nice and snowy white outside.

There sure are a lot of what ifs... about this case to think about. Hopefully when all the latest DNA results are in, everything will be proved as to the who, when, where, how, but I doubt the why will ever be found out truthfully, since obviously none of the Anthony's are capable of telling the truth!

[groovy135]

Get a load of this:

04:07:54 PM » Today

Yall just hear LP on HLN say that the place back there was known for kids in the n'hood to go and bury pets.. I think he said parakeets?? lol? And thats why they are finding lots of bones..

[totallytoddler]

Get a load of this:

04:07:54 PM » Today

Yall just hear LP on HLN say that the place back there was known for kids in the n'hood to go and bury pets.. I think he said parakeets?? lol? And thats why they are finding lots of bones..

Yea...and he said something about a "bedsheet"????? Could THAT be the "covering" found with the body? I had not heard anything further on that yet.

[groovy135]

Dated Dec 15. Appears to be additional to the orig.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...81464.htmlpage

MORE DOCS RELEASED DEC. 15TH..

Found here that it was Tony L that found Casey walking down Chickasaw Trail

going south on the 24 of june when she had ran out of gas. Went to C &G

house and he broke the lock on the shed and Casey took the two cans of gas.


It is on Page 46 of the above documents. Must have been the day she had

gotten rid of the body. I thought it was the day she was seen jogging and it

was Chris that had seen her.



?????? - this was posted on another site a few minutes ago - more documents released 12/15 ????

[Rockin Ma]

Putting yourself in KC's shoes, would you honestly believe that any LE would take her word over her perfect mothers?

I'm on the phone with Special and we are mauling over this. WHY would Cindy lie about the last time she saw Caylee?
Again and I've said this over and over, it was FATHER'S DAY. There was an argument. Things that people don't forget.
WHY say she last saw her on June 9th as opposed to the actual time she last saw her??

And I do believe they would take Cindy's word over KC's so why wouldn't KC feel the same?
Also, the script that KC's mentions.. Could that have been a script that Cindy orchestrated?
Also, Cindy said "I gave you 31 days"
Lastly, Casey saying "You don't know what my involvement is in this?" That was the only true reaction we ever heard from KC

Further editing: I do believe that SINdy would sell KC down the river to save her own ass

Edited for more thoughts: SINdy is very "stepford" acting. No emotion. Even under circumstances as to what they went through with the Protesters, SINdy never went off. George did, as we all would of.

Oh boy guys, I'm going into all kinds of new scenarios in which Cindy is the main culprit now. What the hell is going to happen to Caylee's trust fund?

I also just wanted to add I'm really giggling at the request for privacy from their atty. They seeked out the media from day one under the guise of getting Angel's face out there, then they just went to the media for I don't even know why, but while I personally would give them privacy in this time. I will not be upset with any media outlet pursuing them aggressively despite their request. They never wanted privacy before. They loved to initiate contact and keep themselves around. That fact that that all of a sudden they want to stay out of the spotlight makes me feel like they deserve to be stalked by the media a bit. It's like you do for me I do for you and now they want to reneg.

[groovy135]

This is something That I really want to know!!! (posted elsewhere today)

With a case as large as this, such a precious innocent child, and no one else in the family speaks up. No siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, inlaws, close family friends, NADA. I always thought that was strange. Must be some reason I would think. I just Don't Know??


(Just brother Rick and Great Grand Ma Shirley)

[Komak]

Yea...and he said something about a "bedsheet"????? Could THAT be the "covering" found with the body? I had not heard anything further on that yet.

bingo!
If she was covered with a bed sheet, then LE would have post haste ran to the house to see if the same brand and set was missing a sheet....seriously, if she was covered with a bed sheet, it had to come from somewhere, perhaps we need to 1. look at what Casey bought again, 2. Wonder where it came from, that in itself would be telling. very telling!

[solange82200]

Rockin Ma, the guy in the pic is JP Chatt, one of Casey's friends. SOme peeps think its Caylee's bio dad.

[groovy135]

Minute-To-Minute Update
Monday, Dec. 15
5:20 p.m.
Capt. Angelo Nieves, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, says they have made more significant finds during Monday's search of the area where the remains were found, but he could not release specifics on that evidence. He also said that they are using experts from the University of Central Florida, an anthropologist, an entomologist and a botonist to examine the scene.

12:25 p.m.
Brad Conway, attorney and spokesman for George and Cindy Anthony, reads a statement from the Anthony family, asking for continued privacy. Read More

In the statement, George and Cindy Anthony say if the remains are Caylee's, the babysitter Casey Anthony says she left Caylee with may have played a role in her death.


This family is absolutely despicable.

[lttlelindsey]

Minute-To-Minute Update
Monday, Dec. 15
5:20 p.m.
Capt. Angelo Nieves, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, says they have made more significant finds during Monday's search of the area where the remains were found, but he could not release specifics on that evidence. He also said that they are using experts from the University of Central Florida, an anthropologist, an entomologist and a botonist to examine the scene.

12:25 p.m.
Brad Conway, attorney and spokesman for George and Cindy Anthony, reads a statement from the Anthony family, asking for continued privacy. Read More

In the statement, George and Cindy Anthony say if the remains are Caylee's, the babysitter Casey Anthony says she left Caylee with may have played a role in her death.


This family is absolutely despicable.

How about a link?

[totallytoddler]

bingo!
If she was covered with a bed sheet, then LE would have post haste ran to the house to see if the same brand and set was missing a sheet....seriously, if she was covered with a bed sheet, it had to come from somewhere, perhaps we need to 1. look at what Casey bought again, 2. Wonder where it came from, that in itself would be telling. very telling!

Well...I think she is so stupid...she probably used one of Caylee's sheets! Who knows...I dont remember her buying any sheets at target though...Lord knows they played THOSE videos to death! Yea...cant wait for ALL the news to be released on DNA and all the evidence that was found at the scene!
And Groovy...did I just read the Anthonys said if it IS Caylee...that the NANNY did it??? Oh...for the love.....they really need a dose of reality...someone please..PLEASE...give it to them! Peep....please send them some reality pills!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[groovy135]

How about a link?

Sure littlelindsay - I am very new at this, never have done it before, this info comes from a site called Scared Monkeys, I don't know if you heard of it. Somewhere along the line I ended up there, but I do not take and downloads over hear because when I'm on the site, I keep getting warning pop ups form my PC, and I don't know what that means or do I know ANYTHING about computer viruses so I don't bring anything unknown (?) here, but if you would like to check it out, google scared monkeys and it will get u there. Let me know if u need help, I don't post there, only read, I think they are pretty cool,,,let me know what U think,,,enjoy!

[lttlelindsey]

Sure littlelindsay - I am very new at this, never have done it before, this info comes from a site called Scared Monkeys, I don't know if you heard of it. Somewhere along the line I ended up there, but I do not take and downloads over hear because when I'm on the site, I keep getting warning pop ups form my PC, and I don't know what that means or do I know ANYTHING about computer viruses so I don't bring anything unknown (?) here, but if you would like to check it out, google scared monkeys and it will get u there. Let me know if u need help, I don't post there, only read, I think they are pretty cool,,,let me know what U think,,,enjoy!

When ever you read something you find of interest go up to the address bar and copy every thing that is in there. (highlight, and right click, pick copy and then in the reply box on our site hit paste. and Volla!)

I am appreciative of your information but if I believed everything I read on here, caylee would have been seen in a piece of cinnamon toast and abducted by aliens. It is important to list your source.

[groovy135]

Well...I think she is so stupid...she probably used one of Caylee's sheets! Who knows...I dont remember her buying any sheets at target though...Lord knows they played THOSE videos to death! Yea...cant wait for ALL the news to be released on DNA and all the evidence that was found at the scene!
And Groovy...did I just read the Anthonys said if it IS Caylee...that the NANNY did it??? Oh...for the love.....they really need a dose of reality...someone please..PLEASE...give it to them! Peep....please send them some reality pills!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TT, I know, I know AARRGGH,,,,,,, They are repulsive, but Don't most kids have a "BLANKIE"...I know I did, all my neices and nephews had one - their security blankets....did (can't type that name - she who cannot be named) at least have a glimmer of remorse and laid her to rest w/ only her little blankie?

[Maggiepepper]

I am appreciative of your information but if I believed everything I read on here, caylee would have been seen in a piece of cinnamon toast and abducted by aliens. It is important to list your source.

PAH-HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!...that was some great imagery on my break from this damn paper! :) Thanks little lindsey! :)

And thanks to the continued congratulations to me from you all! I feel so loved! ;)

[Rockin Ma]

Rockin Ma, the guy in the pic is JP Chatt, one of Casey's friends. SOme peeps think its Caylee's bio dad.

This is JP Chatt. I don't think they are the same person.

[lttlelindsey]

This is JP Chatt. I don't think they are the same person.

Sure as hell looks like he could be. Dang!

[groovy135]

When ever you read something you find of interest go up to the address bar and copy every thing that is in there. (highlight, and right click, pick copy and then in the reply box on our site hit paste. and Volla!)

I am appreciative of your information but if I believed everything I read on here, caylee would have been seen in a piece of cinnamon toast and abducted by aliens. It is important to list your source.

True enough,,,,I'll try my best, But I tried to get the point across to you, that I am NEW to this and at this important time of this saga I really don't have the time to experiment, hell, I haven't even seen the front page yet. I've been trying since 5 LOL.

But I Friday I stated I would try to post interesting (to Me) and gossipy items, as I am not a true reporter, I tried to reference them the best I could. I did this because when i was very busy I read this everyday and if was very helpful to keep up with the plus I got to see what an amazing group this was,,,(you may not remember me, I am Lacy on front page *(long story....see i'm a newbie) Will try to do as you suggest,,,but if unable I will be glad to stop posting those items, K?

P.S. If I'm not mistaken, the cinnamon toast business was on the front page of DD, correct? I think that was a very funnny and clever remark,,,,that's why I love this site LOl

[Rockin Ma]

[Komak]

DUCT TAPE THEORIES FROM OTHER SITES:

Why would such a theory not hold water? Because if duct tape was simply put across the mouth of Caylee Anthony to keep her quiet there is no way that after 6 months of decomposition the duct tape could be attached. However, the fact of the matter is that duct tape was found attached to the skull of the remains found which means one of two things. One, the duct tape was completely wrapped around the entire circumference of the skull. Or two, a large enough piece of duct tape was placed on the face of the child victim that would have attached to the child’s hair that would have caused the duct tape to still be in place 6 months later. The only way that specifically the mouth could have been referenced is if some soft tissue was still present; however, one would hardly believe that a utility worker examined the remains that closely.

That being said the argument has been then why would there have been duct tape found on the skull. Why would such a thing have been done? It could never have been to just merely keep a child quiet for the night while one partied. Reason: why would anyone put duct tape on a little girls hair as it would have been impossible to remove without cutting Caylee’s hair. No one, not even Casey Anthony would have done that to Caylee to simply keep her quiet if she awoke. So why the presence of duct tape?

One, since the Zanny the Nanny was concocted from the outset of this case it is completely believable that Casey Anthony intended to make the death appear to be that of a kidnapping and abduction. After Caylee was expired duct tape could have been attached to the child to provide the appearance that the little girl was kidnapped in case her body was ever found. If this did occur then the question arises, where did the duct tape get put on Caylee? The subsequent search and items removed from the Anthony home following the grisly discovery then makes sense. Why vacuum cleaners, pillow cases, etc? As we all know duct tape is a treasure trove of evidence. Could hair fibers matching the Anthony’s rug been found on the duct tape? Could Caylee Anthony actually have had her face duct taped inside the home of Cindy and George Anthony? It also explains why the police asked for the grandparents finger prints. Not to accuse them, but instead to exclude them.

Two, which is an even more heinous reason for the duct tape … did Casey intend on killing Caylee with forethought and malice as evident by “neck breaking” searches on the internet?

[Komak]

On WESH.com it is saying that huge tree parts are being hauled out of the scene, I would like to know why.

Huge tree parts-----

IS THERE a possibility that Casey, put Caylee in a tree....up a ways in a knot, or in a hole in the tree??? I have seen these type of areas in trees, in the woods as a kid....could the bag have been placed in there?

ALSO

George and Cindy....new spin on an old spin......

In the statement, George and Cindy Anthony say if the remains are Caylee's, the babysitter Casey Anthony says she left Caylee with may have played a role in her death.

[groovy135]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18278896/detail.html

Caylee Memorial Forms At Crime Scene
OCSO Remains Tight-Lipped About Finds In Wooded Area Near Anthony Home

POSTED: 6:08 am EST December 15, 2008
UPDATED: 5:54 pm EST December 15, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Authorities are working to identify a child's remains on Monday that were found in a wooded area near the home of Caylee Anthony last week.

Capt. Angelo Nieves of the Orange County Sheriff's Office said Monday that significant finds have been made at the crime scene, but that he could not comment further on the nature of the finds.

Crime scene investigators hauled out huge tree parts from the crime scene near the Anthonys' East Orange County home Monday.

"As they're moving slowly, they're moving carefully, they'll make, as they work with the medical examiner's office and the FBI lab, they'll make a determination as to what possibly occurred, what the condition of the body is, and analyze, evaluate that and provide that to the medical examiner and the FBI in order to come to a conclusion," Nieves said.

Sifting through all the debris is tedious work but experts including Orange County Medical Examiner Dr. G. will stay as long as needed. Nieves said the sheriff's office plans to leave no stone unturned.

"The fact that he actually saw it was remarkable in itself. The fact that he acted upon that it appeared suspicious to him. They said it would been difficult at all to miss that bag because of the heavy undergrowth and everything that was down there," Padilla said.

Sources suspect the body was likely submerged for an unknown period of time and some of the remains may have floated out of the bag or were scattered by animals.

Meanwhile, George and Cindy Anthony were allowed to return to their family home on Hope Spring Drive near the crime scene.

The family has hired a new attorney and spokesman, Brad Conway, and he said George and Cindy Anthony have nothing to hide and will work with law enforcement.

"They've cooperated. They've done everything they can and understand this is their daughter, and imagine your daughter, your only daughter, being charged with first-degree murder of your only grandchild," Conway said.

During a press conference on Monday afternoon, Conway said the Anthonys are not grieving because they don't know who the remains belong to.

Conway said that if the bones are Caylee's, once the medical examiner is finished, the bones will be released to the Anthonys for proper burial.

He also spoke about neighbors of the Anthonys selling false stories to the media. If false stories are sold he said will be looking into pursuing some sort of legal action, but right now the Anthony's are looking for some privacy.

Conway confirmed George and Cindy Anthony have give new fingerprints and DNA samples to the FBI, but that is only to exclude them as potential suspects and nothing else, Conway stressed.

Conway said George and Cindy Anthony only want to help determine if the child is Caylee and who may have killed her.

Michelle Bart, who said she reached out to the Anthony family the first week of seeing what they were going through with the media and offered her services, has a different position as of Sunday night.

Bart will no longer speak on the Anthonys behalf, but instead will continue to maintain their Web sites. She said she and Conway will be working as a team for the benefit of the Anthonys.

Since Thursday, a small cross left near the crime scene has grown into a huge memorial to Caylee Anthony, containing flowers and many stuffed animals.

"I've just been waiting for closure. I wanted her found alive. If this is what we got, you have to respect her. You have to respect the little child. It's just cruel," resident Wilma Sipes said.

[dmax]

And, what the hell is the difference between brown eggs and white? Brown are cheaper but taste the same to me!

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[Komak]

NOT TONY.... look at the eyebrows....

Then: and this is good instruction for any personal comparisons....use your fingers and cover up various parts of each face....

Look at the level at which the ears are attached to the head....where the top of the ear, if you draw a line across the face traces through the face, it is at different levels.....Look at the spacing and width, length of the teeth.

NOT the same person as far as I can see.

[Rockin Ma]

NOT TONY.... look at the eyebrows....

Then: and this is good instruction for any personal comparisons....use your fingers and cover up various parts of each face....

Look at the level at which the ears are attached to the head....where the top of the ear, if you draw a line across the face traces through the face, it is at different levels.....Look at the spacing and width, length of the teeth.

NOT the same person as far as I can see.

No one knows who the heck he is. I'm consumed by wanting to know. I get a nice vibe from that picture.

[Sister Iroz]

TT, I know, I know AARRGGH,,,,,,, They are repulsive, but Don't most kids have a "BLANKIE"...I know I did, all my neices and nephews had one - their security blankets....did (can't type that name - she who cannot be named) at least have a glimmer of remorse and laid her to rest w/ only her little blankie?

Groovy yes most kids do have there favorite blankie. As a matter of fact both my kids still have there's because they were knitted by my MIL's friends.

[rebel450]

On WESH.com it is saying that huge tree parts are being hauled out of the scene, I would like to know why.

Huge tree parts-----

IS THERE a possibility that Casey, put Caylee in a tree....up a ways in a knot, or in a hole in the tree??? I have seen these type of areas in trees, in the woods as a kid....could the bag have been placed in there?

ALSO

George and Cindy....new spin on an old spin......

In the statement, George and Cindy Anthony say if the remains are Caylee's, the babysitter Casey Anthony says she left Caylee with may have played a role in her death.

Thats a surprise? I am sure they will spin a lot more good stories for us. Thats a possibly on the tree, We have a big tree out back with a very large hole in the tree. (the squirrels have a great time in there) But is big enough for a small body to be placed.

[Sister Iroz]

LMFAO Dmax! Thanks for that. I always heard brown eggs tasted better and were more expensive.

[Komak]

No one knows who the heck he is. I'm consumed by wanting to know. I get a nice vibe from that picture.

Yes that photo has circled all the threads since back in August, I don't know for sure if the person was ever confirmed, good luck on your search. I am thinking Chris (from the interviews).

Just keep in mind the sure way to do the comparison, in small bits of face to small bits.....usually the level of each set of ears is a dead give away.... then small pieces to small pieces of the whole, two photos is actually easier then a live person compared to a photo....

[Sister Iroz]

in the statement, george and cindy anthony say if the remains are caylee's, the babysitter casey anthony says she left caylee with may have played a role in her death.

surprise not!