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    Two dead in Grand Junction shooting.

    I'm finding this one a little odd.

    GRAND JUNCTION - Grand Junction Police say the man who shot four others, killing two of them, before shooting himself Saturday, has ties to Lakewood. It is not known yet if there is a connection between the shooter and his victims.

    Police got a report of shots fired at 8:32 a.m. and found four people shot outside a home located at 2631 Chestnut Dr.

    Grand Junction Police say Dr. Terry Fine and his wife, Linda Fine, were in their driveway, getting ready to go on vacation with Dr. Michael Gallagher and his wife, Flo Gallagher. According to police, a man in his 20s approached the couples and shot Dr. Fine, Linda Fine, and Flo Gallagher.

    A neighbor who heard the shots ran toward the home to get help. The suspect, whose name has not been released, was seen leaving the area in an SUV.

    Police and Mesa County sheriff's deputies spotted the vehicle about an hour later and chased it. The SUV drove off the road into some trees. Officers said the suspect had a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He was taken to St. Mary’s Hospital. He remained hospital Friday night.

    Police say 61-year-old Dr. Terry Fine and 60-year-old Flo Gallagher were killed. Linda Fine remains in the hospital. The neighbor was treated and released. Dr. Michael Gallagher was not injured.

    The Daily Sentinel reports Terry Fine is a longtime, local dentist.

    Mesa State College confirmed Flo Gallagher was the wife of the former Mesa State president Dr. Michael Gallagher.
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    why were the other people shot and not Dr. Gallagher?

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    Dr. Gallagher and his wife had just arrived. The two couples were leaving on a Las Vegas vacation together. The shooter was in the Fine's driveway and I assume he turned around after shooting them and fired into the Gallagher's vehicle. Mr. Gallagher drove off, yelling at a nearby jogger to take cover, and took his wife to the hospital. The 4th man shot was running across the street from his home to help the Fine couple and was shot in the street. He had just recently moved to the neighborhood, neighbors say because it was known to be safe. In fact, in the last 5 years only 3 homes had changed owners.

    The suspect then fled the area and a 45 minute chase ensued with LE in the neighborhood. The shooter crashed his vehicle into some trees 2 blocks from the scene of the shootings and proceeded to shoot himself in the head. Too bad he's still alive. I believe that Dr. Fine may have been my dentist at one time and was well known in the community. Mr. Gallagher is a former president of Mesa State College and his wife was a retired school teacher who ocassionally subsituted.

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    Two dead in Grand Junction shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by miss_lickycharms View Post
    why were the other people shot and not Dr. Gallagher?
    That's what I am wondering. I hope the shooter is able to tell police who hired him, or if it was some random crime.


    Floyce and Michael Gallagher

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    Just waiting to find out that this was a kill-for-hire and 2 of those people were collateral victims. Sounds fishy...

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    Two dead in Grand Junction shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by crickett View Post
    Just waiting to find out that this was a kill-for-hire and 2 of those people were collateral victims. Sounds fishy...
    Yup, and it's getting fishier by the moment.

    Police Monday remained baffled as to why a man who grew up in Alaska and was staying with a relative in suburban Denver apparently drove 240 miles to kill a dentist and the wife of a former Mesa State College president.

    The spouses of those killed survived Saturday morning's shooting in the driveway of a home near a country club, about a mile from an Interstate 70 exit.

    Suspect Stefan Alexander Martin-Urban, 22, died Sunday around 1 p.m. of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He had no criminal history, no ties to the Grand Junction area and no apparent link to the victims.
    http://www.examiner.com/a-1636287~Po..._shooting.html


    Shooter: Stefan Alexander Martin-Urban, 22
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    Two dead in Grand Junction shooting.

    "Mr. Gallagher stated the male subject pulled out a gun and fired several times at Terry Fine from close range," Grand Junction police Detective Ed Prescott wrote in the statement.

    Fine, shot four times, fell dying in the driveway, according to police and coroner statements.

    The gunman then "walked to the rear passenger side of the BMW and fired into Linda Fine, who was still seated in the back seat," the investigator wrote. Flo Gallagher scrambled out the car as the gunman shot at her.

    Mike Gallagher quickly pulled the car out of the driveway, speeding the wounded Linda Fine to the hospital.

    "His wife had been able to get out of the car, but he didn't know what had happened to her," Mike Gallagher told police.
    Wow, what a hero. He just drives off and leaves his dying wife on the ground.

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ller-might-be/


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    Still no "Why"
    Investigators still are hoping to learn what prompted a 22-year-old Alaska man to open fire on five people the morning of Oct. 11.

    Investigators have obtained Stefan Alexander Martin-Urban’s computers and are going through his files looking for cyber clues to explain why he chose to open fire in Grand Junction.

    Martin-Urban, who had moved to Lakewood about eight weeks before, had followed a trail from Alaska to Los Angeles to St. George, Utah, and then Lakewood before doubling back for that final, unexplained drive to Grand Junction.

    When Mike and Flo Gallagher pulled out of their house about 8 that morning, they noticed a dark green Honda CR-V that rolled by the house, turned around and headed out, just in front of the Gallaghers.

    When the Honda slowed, Mike Gallagher steered his car to the left, thinking only that the other driver seemed distracted.

    Neither thought of the Honda until they pulled into the Fines’ driveway several minutes later, where Terry and Linda Fine were waiting inside.

    Flo Gallagher and Linda Fine were outside the car and their husbands set to arranging the luggage in the trunk when the Honda again rolled by.

    I think that’s the guy who was in our cul-de-sac,” Gallagher remembered telling his wife.

    “Yeah, that’s weird,” she said.

    The Honda driver parked, got out and strode toward the Fines and Gallaghers, approaching Terry Fine first.

    It seemed to Gallagher that Fine said something and the man raised his right hand, which was hidden behind his back to show a semiautomatic pistol, later determined to be a Ruger 9 mm.

    The gunman said nothing to anyone, Gallagher remembered. He shot Fine, then moved toward the back seat of the BMW, where Linda Fine was seated, screaming.

    He shot several times at Linda Fine and then shot Flo Gallagher, who had jumped out of the car. The shot wounded her mortally.

    Gallagher believed Flo was still in the car and knew that Linda Fine was in the back seat, bleeding from several bullet wounds.

    The gunman leveled the barrel at Gallagher and ... nothing.

    The slide was back, meaning he was out of ammunition.

    Gallagher knew that meant he had but a moment to move out.

    The gunman, moving swiftly, popped his empty clip out and loaded a fresh one.

    Gallagher had started the car, but couldn’t throw it into reverse until he tapped the brake pedal.

    As he spun back and away from the gunman, the pistol cracked and a bullet slammed into the hood in front of him. A second shot hit just left of it. Then a third hit the forward window post and the fourth slammed into the middle window post.

    In between the second and third shots, Gallagher remembered seeing Flo sprawled on the ground.

    That was the hardest thing of all of this because I’m leaving my wife laying on the ground,” he said later. “But you know the other side of that is God told me to just keep your foot on the accelerator and just go, because I knew Linda was dying.”

    Gallagher sped out of the neighborhood, stopping for a moment to scream a warning to a jogger not to head down the street.

    The gunman returned to his vehicle and headed out the same way when neighbor Paco Larson stepped in front of him.

    The gunman fired twice through his windshield. One shot struck Larson, who survived, though doctors left the bullet in his back.

    Moments after Gallagher left, Hahn flagged down a deputy Mesa County sheriff who happened by on his way to work. As Hahn spoke with the deputy, the dark green Honda drove by.

    It seemed to Hahn the driver had something on his mind.

    “We made eye contact,” Hahn said. “I’m thinking he wanted to say something, but then he saw the sheriff.”

    The man he saw in the Honda, without a doubt, was Martin-Urban, he said.
    http://www.gjsentinel.com/hp/content...Gallagher.html

    From October 14th:
    The 22-year-old man believed to have shot and killed two people in Grand Junction listed his occupation as “Enjoying life” in describing himself online.

    “hi. my name is stefan martin-urban, and i live in this world that some people choose to call ‘reality,’” he wrote in a posting on YouTube.com [since "scrubbed" clean]

    In one eerily foreshadowing entry, Martin-Urban, posting on YouTube.com as stefanzOr, commented on a video of a girl demonstrating how to fire a 9 mm handgun, saying the girl was a “hot babe.”

    The gun Martin-Urban used in the shooting of Terry and Linda Fine, Flo Gallagher and himself was a 9 mm handgun.

    Martin-Urban’s lone video that he posted depicted a seemingly normal lifestyle with two kittens he adopted running around a simple room with a bed, desk, snowboard and racquetball racquet.

    He also was interested in the cosmos and New Age religion.

    Listed among his favorite YouTube videos is an interview about “The Divine Matrix,” and a video about the findings of the Hubble space telescope.

    He also refers to a report from the Galactic Federation of Light that claims a 2,000-mile-long spacecraft will appear today over the Earth’s Southern Hemisphere to reassure humans that they are not alone and that they’re being watched over by benevolent extraterrestrials.

    He also lists “Kryon” as a book he read. On Kryon.com, Kryon is described as “a love-filled and empowering angelic being” whose teachings are “channeled” by his followers on Earth.

    Martin-Urban said he also liked the movies “The Matrix” and “Wedding Crashers” and said he enjoyed Counter-strike, a so-called “first-person shooter” video game which is played from the point of view of a gun-bearing character.

    Police said they were looking into all of Martin-Urban’s postings on the Web.
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