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    U.S. Leadership Era Is Ending

    Moscow Says U.S. Leadership Era Is Ending

    Published: October 2, 2008

    MOSCOW — Perhaps inevitably for a country often lectured by the United States about its own economy, Russia is using the occasion of the American financial crisis to do some lecturing of its own.

    President Dmitri A. Medvedev has blamed what he called financial “egoism” for the crisis and said it should be taken as a sign that America’s global economic leadership was drawing to a close.
    Along with some European leaders, Mr. Medvedev has called for greater multilateralism in financial regulation, echoing a Russian position on international relations generally.

    “The times when one economy and one country dominated are gone for good,” he said Thursday at St. Petersburg State University during the eighth annual Petersburger Dialog, a forum devoted to developing relations with Germany. After the American banking collapses, he said, the world does not want America as a “megaregulator.”

    Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, in Russia for the forum, said Germany, too, would “always support a multilateral approach” to market regulation.

    Along with the Germans and others, Russian leaders contend that poorly regulated American markets caused the current crisis. While it is hardly a new sentiment, in Russia there is a gloating quality, as the American crisis deepens.

    There has been a drumbeat of pronouncements in recent days on this theme. Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin made a speech about what he called American financial “irresponsibility” on Wednesday, blaming non-Russian causes for Russia’s stock plunge of more than 50 percent. Of the financial crisis, he said, “This is not the irresponsibility of some people but the irresponsibility of the system, which as it is known, claimed to be the leader.”

    In contrast to the Europeans who have also criticized lax American regulation, however, Russians are facing a financial system that has been in such chaos that regulators suspended trading on the stock market three times last month. The global credit crisis could trim about 1 percent from Russian growth next year, said the finance minister, Aleksei L. Kudrin.

    As in other emerging markets, investors are pulling money out of Russia and depositing it in United States Treasury securities because they are considered the safest place to park money. By the time Mr. Medvedev spoke on Thursday, investors had pulled about $52 billion in net private capital out of Russia since the second week of August, when the war in Georgia and political tension with the West heightened concern about political risk here.

    The criticism of American finance coincided with a rise in Russian military bluster that has been viewed by some in the West as a resurgence of the Kremlin’s cold-war mentality. On Thursday, Russian generals announced plans for the largest air force exercise since the collapse of the Soviet Union, called Stability 2008, to be held next week. Also on Thursday, the deputy commander of Russia’s navy said the country would build eight new nuclear submarines before 2015.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/wo...html?ref=world

    Thoughts? I agree with the Russians...the age of an economic superpower is arguably coming to an end. This is in part by what's occurred, and partly because of the interconnectedness and multilateral aspects of the world economy.

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    Okay, lemme get this straight...

    Moscow is saying that our time is running out because we under-regulate?

    Buahahahahahah!

    Haven't we had this conversation with them before? =P
    "Now that ceaseless exposure has calloused us to the lewd and the vulgar, it is instructive to see what still seems wicked to us. What still slaps the clammy flab of our submissive consciousness hard enough to get our attention?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena View Post
    Okay, lemme get this straight...

    Moscow is saying that our time is running out because we under-regulate?

    Buahahahahahah!

    Haven't we had this conversation with them before? =P
    I know, the irony is awesome. Only it rings true this time.

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    You do realise that the Euros were saying this in the 1970's too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Bondurant View Post
    You do realise that the Euros were saying this in the 1970's too?
    You do realise that the European Union did not exist in the 1970s too? The EU is much more interconnected in terms of finance, diplomacy and economy...superior to the States at the moment. So yeah, I would not be surprised if America was no longer the economic superpower in a decade or so.

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