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    10yo Knocks Teacher Unconscious, Breaks Leg Of Another

    A ten-year-old boy head-butted a teacher unconscious and kicked her assistant so hard he broke her leg, a court heard yesterday.

    He went on a violent rampage after the teacher confiscated a coin he had been scraping across his desk during a lesson.

    CCTV captured the boy throwing a box across the room and upturning the teacher's desk. He then ran out of the design and technology lesson into the corridor where he started kicking and punching the walls.

    When the two women, in their 50s, tried to restrain him, he head-butted one and kicked the other in the leg.

    The boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, sat next to his mother at Bromley Youth Court yesterday and nodded a guilty plea to a charge of assault.

    When asked for a plea for unlawful wounding, he shrugged his shoulders and looked at his mother who nodded at him.

    Nisha Dutt, prosecuting, said the assistant 'felt a kick to her left knee and witnesses say there was a cracking noise'.

    Surgeons confirmed she had suffered a severe fracture and was likely to suffer from post-traumatic arthritis and require a knee replacement.

    The teacher, who has worked at the school for 12 years, was taken to hospital with facial injuries, and diagnosed with concussion.
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    Daniel Cummins, defending, said the boy suffers from a 'broad spectrum personality disorder and behavioural difficulties', is of below average intelligence and has been under the care of a psychologist since he was eight.

    Children can be convicted of a crime from the age of ten, but cannot be given a custodial sentence until they are 12 other than in exceptional circumstances.

    District Judge Roger Ede sentenced the boy to a 12-month referral order for each offence which means he and his mother will have to meet regularly with a youth offending team.

    The boy's tearful mother told the court that she did not agree with the court's decision.

    She added: 'The only reason he pleaded guilty is because he did hurt them, but they caused the situation.

    'He is not a bad kid so he won't be coming back to court regardless of being on probation.'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-coin-him.html

    District Judge Robert Ede told the boy: "I want you to understand how serious an injury can be caused by a kick.

    "You intended to hurt (both teachers) and have to take responsibility for that.

    "You took your anger out on them and made them suffer because you were suffering and that's wrong."
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    He hurt them but they made him do it..........? Ummm NO! Hurting them was a choice that he made to get away from them, he needs to suffer for his choices even if it's only in counselling and Mom needs to Mom up and take responsibility for raising a hellion.

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    'The only reason he pleaded guilty is because he did hurt them, but they caused the situation.
    Umm Nope! They were trying to keep the class room peaceful your kid was being an ass. More than likely because you seem to want to blame all his problems on others. I can not stand parents like this!
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    This mommy is on her high horse!!

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    She added: 'The only reason he pleaded guilty is because he did hurt them, but they caused the situation.


    I am still trying to figure out how they 'caused' the situation. Defusing the situation yes. But causing it? I must be missing something.
    Uh lady, yes your kid has behavioral issues, but that still does not mean he doesn't know right from wrong. Stop coddling the kid already..
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    Yes the child has many psychological problems compounded by the below average intelligence, however unless your pregnancy was healthy and it was a fluke the boy came out like that: MY ASS IS BLAMING YOU, ENABLING MOTHER.

    So the boy scrapped that coin until BOTH teachers couldn't take it anymore & took it away & he goes bezerk? And it's THEIR fault?

    So I will assume that IT IS their fault, if dumbass mom over here can sit in a room where aluminum windows are being scrapped with nails and the ends of a metal coat hanger. If her ass is able to witstand that for more than an hour, then the teachers should DEFINATELY pay their own medical bills.

    If she cracks ONCE or makes ANY comment on "how annoying that sound is", her ass should pay those bills and should STFU!


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    Mom's a dumb, enabling bitch! Kid's got anger issues and mental problems!


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    I think in this case " broad spectrum personality disorder and behavioural difficulties " is doctor speak for mom never disciplined lil Damien at all .
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    Not saying Mum is innocent, but didn't notice mention of Dad. Worked with kids like this for years, it not about mollycoddling them, just a calm reasonable approach, especially when they arm themselves with desks etc, lol. And this trend of the younger ones attacking Grandmother aged type Ladies makes me wonder a little about the attitudes towards Family Matriarchs, who seem to be taking over childcare more as their Kids find work and need childcare. My parents are fantastic, they play internet/nerf/marbles/Lego etc with the kids when they have them. I wouldn't leave either of them with their Father or his parents though, that would just be asking for trouble, not to mention major psychological scarring to both the kids. Anyway point being, it takes a Family to raise a child, and if the Kid has problems, there's always a bigger picture. When a child gets frustrated you can jump in and shout, or restrain them, have done both at home and at work myself! Sitting them down for a chat just works much better, in my humble opinion.

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    Somebody needs to headbutt some common sense into Mommy Dumbass here and make her see the bigger picture before its her he's attacking. Stupid bitch can't see where the issue lies, with her mentally underdeveloped man child and his violent and clearly unprovoked actions. If someone in a position of authority tells you to stop doing something, generally you stop what you're doing not have a mini psiychotic break. I am appalled that this weepy bitch and her son had the gall to even suggest that the teachers were responsible for their own injuries by provoking him. There's a time and place for everything wish she had taught her spawn that.
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    'The only reason he pleaded guilty is because he did hurt them, but they caused the situation.

    He then ran out of the design and technology lesson into the corridor where he started kicking and punching the walls.

    When the two women, in their 50s, tried to restrain him, he head-butted one and kicked the other in the leg

    They restrained him to prevent him kicking and punching the walls, and so saved him from hurting himself. And by the mothers logic that means they 'caused' the situation which saw them sustain serious injuries from HER son? Should they have just let him carry on punching the walls until he broke the bones in his hands? What would mommy-dearest have to say about that?

    I really wish they had named him, so that we could recognise him when his name pops up on here at some point in the future for severely beating someone. Or killing someone. Like his mother, perhaps.
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    The no child behind act has ruined schools.
    Kids that normally need special schools or otherwise should be seperated from the crowd, are in the mix bringing everything thing to the least common denominator. Everyone is a winner. Everyone gets a trophy just for signing up.

    I should default to wtf is going on with the parent/s. That should be seriously scrutinized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    The no child behind act has ruined schools.
    Kids that normally need special schools or otherwise should be seperated from the crowd, are in the mix bringing everything thing to the least common denominator. Everyone is a winner. Everyone gets a trophy just for signing up.

    I should default to wtf is going on with the parent/s. That should be seriously scrutinized.
    Sorry, I just caught this is in the UK. i do not know what their version of No child left behind is. Maybe @Abroad or @Marv can elaborate.
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    Not having kids in school myself, I cannot really say whether they use similar slogans in UK schools. I do think they make a lot of effort to be inclusive of all disabilities, physical and developmental, though. Sometimes it just seems to go off the rails.

    The mother in this case is a big part of the problem, and all the Daily Mail readership will be tutting and complaining that children these days have no respect for the teachers.....




    Oh, and Bromley is a town rapidly being swallowed up by the outskirts of London. It is not an area we would necessarily expect to see stories like this come out of. The kid is likely to be overprivileged rather than under-.
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    I am all for mainstreaming children but within reason. I have an autistic child, Aspberger's Symdrome, he is highly intelligent but has classic autism quirks like finger flapping, he is mainstreamed after 3 years in a specialized autistic support classroom. He has never been violent, other than normal fighting with his two younger brothers, but he is very strong so even though he is autistic if he hurts someone he needs to take responsibility for it (he'll be 12 on 7/6) regardless of who "started" it. I don't believe for a second that the teachers caused anything.

    Mothers like his give people the impression that most if not all parents of special needs children are this stupid. I've had teachers comment that my attitude is refreshing in that I fully understand my son's limitations, accept them and don't expect the teachers to be miracle workers and somehow cure my son. I think mom needs some therapy like her son to get a fucking clue!

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    I believe that some children with special needs benefit greatly from being 'mainstreamed'. But last year I saw my son (at the top of the class) spending a lot of time reading a book while his teacher tried to get other students up to speed. I really felt he didn't get the attention he should've and that he could have advanced further given some attention. But he's fine, anyway. Maybe he should've been in a different class; not sure.
    I think if a child cannot function in the atmosphere without being a distraction or cannot do the school work, they shouldn't be in that class.
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    I agree whole heartedly. I have 3 sons and my middle son is extremely intelligent, already expected to skip a grade and I find that all his teachers thus far are teaching to the "slowest" students and not at a happy medium. Like your son mine is also fine but had spent all last school year bored. With my oldest I stay very involved to make sure that he is getting all he needs and is not hampering any other students. My son has an aide with him at all times to give him the extra help he needs so that the teacher can teach everyone and not just him. Mainstreaming needs to be judged on a case by case basis and parents of special needs children need to be aware that it may not be the right for their child or other children in the class. I'm luck with my oldest, it works for him and his classmates.

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    One of my closest friends was "mainstreamed." I'm not even sure what her disability is, to be completely honest with you. I don't care. She is the sweetest person.

    But SHE never assaulted a teacher.
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    This kid wasn't being mainstreamed. He was in a "special behavioural school" according to the full article. These teachers were probably better trained for dealing with this kid than most.
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    It takes a magic kind of person to work with Kids like this, and I don't blame the Teacher and assistant for the way they reacted. And yes, I know sometimes you have to restrain Kids, done it meself a few times. But sometimes it's better they hurt themselves rather than taking it out on others, wait patiently for them to get it out of their system. Sounds harsh, but if you have 30 kids and one of them loses it, you have to make a judgement call. If you have good support then you would hope a member of staff would step in and help him to calm down, or at least take over the rest of your class while you deal with him. Took five of us on one occasion, and they included three heads of relevent services, I could sketch it for the Beano! No Asbo's or ABC's that time, think some of the people over me were a little scared of the families, I made a lot of progress with the kids and families. Social services were a waste of bloody time, again. Then I got moved into a different area, go bloody figure. Anyways, it all went to shit when I got moved on, they didn't have a dedicated worker anymore. The little lovelies that we had made so much progress with turned into the next little shites on the list for the nothern lot, and now they are beyond the age we can work with them. Get to them young and us workers can make a difference.

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    When I read the article, I thought to myself, "Oh no they restrained him themselves, how dangerous!"

    Reading all the comments here has changed my mind. These were the best people for the job, doing exactly the right thing and this kid is close to deadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMorningStar View Post
    Where are the online donations for the teachers?
    Good question. It sounds like the two of them could use a lovely holiday for having to endure that BS.

    At the very least, someone should buy them a couple of tranquilizer guns so that they can neutralize the little hellions before the bone breaking starts.

    My daughter is autistic, and if she was behaving like this (God forbid), I would fully support the use of a tranquilizer and/or some sort of soft restraint--not only to keep her from hurting others, but to keep her from hurting herself.

    I would also be humiliated, because I'm doing my best to help her understand when she's feeling overwhelmed and find good techniques to self-soothe so that the overwhelmed feeling doesn't turn into a full-blown meltdown.


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    The boy's tearful mother told the court that she did not agree with the court's decision.

    She added: 'The only reason he pleaded guilty is because he did hurt them, but they caused the situation.
    Now we all know why he is like this to begin with. Mom thinks he is a good kid. He may very well be a good kid but he needs help cause what he did screams crazy to me.
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