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    Facebook Deletes Photos Of Baby With Terminal Birth Defect

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1081148

    A Tennessee mother says she was banned for a day from Facebook after posting photos of her dying infant son who was born without parts of his brain and skull.

    After Facebook deleted the photos of the infant, Grayson James Walker, the newborn’s mother reposted them, prompting the social-media giant to ban her from the site for 24 hours, the mother told KCTV 5.

    "They allow people to post almost nude pictures of themselves, profanity, and so many other things but I'm not allowed to share a picture of God's beautiful creation," the mother, Heather Walker, of Millington, Tenn., told KCTV.

    Facebook’s community standards state that the company can remove content that contains graphic violence, threats, self-harm, bullying and harassment, hate speech or nudity and pornography.

    Sixteen weeks into the pregnancy, Walker and her husband Patrick discovered their child suffered from anecephaly, a rare but fatal neural tube birth defect.

    When Grayson was born on Feb. 15, they knew he would only have precious few hours to live.

    Indeed, he died when he was just eight hours old.

    The couple sent a professional photographer to the hospital to document the birth so the family could honor the memory of their son, Gizmodo reported.

    They posted several photos on Facebook - some with Grayson wearing a hat, and others exposing the baby's birth defect.

    Responding to her troubles with Facebook, dozens of people have shared their support for Walker on the Benefit for Grayson James Walker Faceboek page. One commenter wrote that he hopes the family sues Facebook “for calling their son inappropriate."
    I don't think they should sue over this . I'm pretty sure if you read the small print face book owns your face book page , and can do anything they want with the pictures you post . That said lots of people post pictures of their newborns on face book , are only the "pretty" ones allowed now ?
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    No, not just the pretty ones. Somehow my pics get left alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarfree irony View Post
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    I don't think they should sue over this . I'm pretty sure if you read the small print face book owns your face book page , and can do anything they want with the pictures you post . That said lots of people post pictures of their newborns on face book , are only the "pretty" ones allowed now ?
    I doubt they took the pictures down because they weren't "pretty" enough, it seems they took them down because they were considered disturbing. I don't see why it matters though, especially if her page was private.
    Last edited by Obsolete; May 21st, 2012 at 11:27 AM.
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    UUURRRRGGGHHHH!!! this is along the lines of the Walmart story with the fetus pic.... http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...100#post622100

    albeit, a different type of pic.. these parents have the right to post pictures of their beautiful child, no matter what the disturbance is to other people. There were no laws broken, there was no intent to "offend" an individual or group. They were simply trying to show their baby to their friends and family and express their grief over the loss of someone very important to them....

    I will never understand why things like this happen, when there are website dedicated to death and the pictures and video thereof..

    RAAAWWRR Momma lion is coming out. My babies were and always will be the most important people in my life. I cannot imagine the hurt and suffering these parents are going through over the loss of their child. Facebook has no right to take these photos down, especially if they were private, if I was this family I would like to know who reported them.....

    To the family of this sweet angel, thank you for having the strength to love beyond what our eyes can see, this baby was loved beyond words. You are all brave beyond words to post what you feel, when you feel it. May your child rest with angels until you meet again.

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    @Obsolete you have your reply in the quote box with my quote . I don't so much mean pretty as I mean non-birth defect , but pretty sounded a bit better . I wonder if the face book censors stumbled upon the pictures , or one of her friends reported it as offensive / disturbing . If her page has open privacy settings anyone could have reported it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitan Obvious View Post
    these parents have the right to post pictures of their beautiful child, no matter what the disturbance is to other people. Actually, no they don't. Facebook reserves the right to remove any material they see fit, and you agree to let them when you sign up.


    Facebook has no right to take these photos down, especially if they were private, if I was this family I would like to know who reported them..... Yes, they do have the right to take the photos down. The family agreed to this when they signed up for a Facebook account. The user's of Facebook have no "rights" as it pertains to posting on the site. If you don't like it, don't have an account.
    I'm not saying that I agree with Facebook taking the photos down, but they have every right to do it. Maybe the family should send out hard copies of the pictures to friends and family. Or email them. It's not a fight they're going to win, and I don't think it's healthy for them to be stressing themselves out about something like this right now.
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    Like Rome, this will be the ultimate demise of Facebook. They will have to manage people who cannot manage their own content, as well as those who cannot manage to not gawk at it and then purport to be offended..

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    I wasn't even aware that Facebook had rules.
    What is the bottom line in the fine print?
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    Originally Posted by Capitan Obvious
    these parents have the right to post pictures of their beautiful child, no matter what the disturbance is to other people. Actually, no they don't. Facebook reserves the right to remove any material they see fit, and you agree to let them when you sign up.


    Facebook has no right to take these photos down, especially if they were private, if I was this family I would like to know who reported them..... Yes, they do have the right to take the photos down. The family agreed to this when they signed up for a Facebook account. The user's of Facebook have no "rights" as it pertains to posting on the site. If you don't like it, don't have an account.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tits McGee View Post
    I'm not saying that I agree with Facebook taking the photos down, but they have every right to do it. Maybe the family should send out hard copies of the pictures to friends and family. Or email them. It's not a fight they're going to win, and I don't think it's healthy for them to be stressing themselves out about something like this right now. AGREED
    I can actually feel the claws and hear the hiss.....

    I understand why FB did what they did.... but it still pisses me off. For shits sake there are half naked teenage girls who are allowed to leave pics up of them holding liquor bottles and smoking a bong all the while they are barely out of 7th grade, and the pics of skulls and horror movies and all that gore crap.

    It's the double standard, hypocritical assholes that just get under my skin. We all know that someone on their "friends" list turned them in.... had to be. I know I am not one to surf around on random peoples FB pages, but then again there are the creepers...
    Last edited by Capitan Obvious; May 20th, 2012 at 07:13 PM. Reason: needed to enter additional sarcasm :P

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    I want to know how come FB lets people share photos of aborted babies, but not this. While I wouldn't post a pic of the baby without its hat if it was my child, maybe this is how they grieve.

    Yes, I also get that they have an absolute right to do this. Just like they had the right to erase my group for a dead child because some friends of the guy convicted of the crime complained. Doesn't mean i don't find them to be assholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitan Obvious View Post
    I can actually feel the claws and hear the hiss.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    I wasn't even aware that Facebook had rules.
    What is the bottom line in the fine print?
    At the bottom of your news feed (and many other pages) is a link titled "Terms". There's a ton of crap in there if you want to look it over. The "terms" page is one of the reasons I don't use many FB applications or post much private content.


    I wonder if one of this couple's so-called friends reported the pictures?

    Facebook responded to Gizmodo this situation:

    Upon investigation, we concluded the photo does not violate our guidelines and was removed in error. Facebook is a place where almost a billion people share more than 300 million photos a day. Our dedicated User Operations Team reviews millions of pieces of this content a day to help keep Facebook safe for all ages. Our policies are enforced by a team of reviewers in several offices across the globe. This team looks at hundreds of thousands of reports every week, and as you might expect, occasionally, we make a mistake and remove a piece of content we shouldn't have. We extend our deepest condolences to the family and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarfree irony View Post
    @Obsolete you have your reply in the quote box with my quote . I don't so much mean pretty as I mean non-birth defect , but pretty sounded a bit better . I wonder if the face book censors stumbled upon the pictures , or one of her friends reported it as offensive / disturbing . If her page has open privacy settings anyone could have reported it .
    lol, oops! Thanks :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    I wonder if one of this couple's so-called friends reported the pictures?
    Bingo, DV! Bit of a shame the parents will never know which of them it was--nothing like a catastrophic life event makes you aware of the snakes in the grass.

    I've got a friend with a kid who has a pretty severe craniofacial deformity. She posts her daughter's pics on facebook, but she's extremely choosy over who she friends as well, because despite the fact that her daughter is a bright, happy, well-adjusted little girl, she's pretty ...suprising to look at at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nell View Post
    I want to know how come FB lets people share photos of aborted babies, but not this. While I wouldn't post a pic of the baby without its hat if it was my child, maybe this is how they grieve.

    Yes, I also get that they have an absolute right to do this. Just like they had the right to erase my group for a dead child because some friends of the guy convicted of the crime complained. Doesn't mean i don't find them to be assholes.
    I've seen this baby's pictures, and ya know, they were preferable over the pictures of a melted (abused) dog's face that came across my feed this morning...
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    My son posted pics of his knee after the accident, and FB deleted his whole account, lol! No requests to take them down, no mere removal of the pics, just *bam* account deleted. He was pretty annoyed as those were the only copies of his war wound that he had.

    But when parents complain about someone seemingly grooming their child, or bullying/harrassment, it takes an age for FB to act.
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