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    Chelisa Grimes Sent Son to School With Stun Gun To Confront Bullies

    Chelisa Grimes and her son, 17-year-old Darnell Young
    An Indiana mother who sent her gay son to school with a stun gun after administrators apparently didn't do enough to stop the bullying against him said she would do it again -- even though the teen now faces expulsion.

    "I do not promote violence -- not at all -- but what is a parent to do when she has done everything that she felt she was supposed to do ... at the school?" the mother, Chelisa Grimes, told CNN's Don Lemon on Sunday. "I did feel like there was nothing else left for me to do, but protect my child."

    The school district held an expulsion hearing last week but no decision has been announced.
    Grimes sent her son, Darnell "Dynasty" Young, to Arsenal Technical High School in Indianapolis with the stun gun after he said he was taunted and bullied for months. Bullied gay teen uses stun gun at school

    "I brought the stun gun 'cause I wasn't safe," the 17-year-old said.

    After six other students surrounded him at school on April 16, calling him names and threatening to beat him up, Young pulled the stun gun from his backpack. He raised it in the air, setting off an electric charge, and sending the group scurrying, Young said.

    Unlike a Taser, which fire barbs attached to long wires at a target, a stun gun has to be near or pressed against a person to shock them.

    "I got kicked out of school for me bringing the weapon to school, but I honestly don't think that that was fair," Young said. "I didn't use it on nobody. ... All I did was raise it up in the air and went back to my class."

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    School officials are investigating the incident, but none of the students who allegedly surrounded Young has been positively identified.

    Young is known as a flamboyant dresser and Larry Yarrell, the Tech principal, said school staff had been trying to get him to "tone down" his accessories.

    "If you wear female apparel, then kids are kids and they're going to say whatever it is that they want to say," Yarrell told The Star. "Because you want to be different and because you choose to wear female apparel, it may happen. In the idealistic society, it shouldn't matter. People should be able to wear what they want to wear."
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    Grimes contends that school officials haven't done enough to protect all students on campus.

    "I think that the self-protection device is what's making the news, but the big picture is that my child is not the only one who does not feel safe at our school," she said.

    It a common complaint among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students.

    A 2009 survey of 7,261 middle and high school students found that nearly nine out of 10 LGBT students had experienced harassment at school over the previous year and nearly two-thirds felt unsafe because of their sexual orientation.

    Young said rumors around campus suggested he was "doing nasty stuff" with teachers. The rumors took their toll.

    "I was at my wit's end. I didn't know what to do and I thought about suicide," Young said. "I hate saying that word because God blessed me with this life. I love life. I love my education. I would never ... but this bullying got so bad that I thought about that."
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    Welcome to the reality that many LGBT youth or those viewed as such face every single day in our schools,relentless bullying by students and schools that won't do anything to stop it and in many cases such as this one,blame the victims because they refuse to hide who they are.

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    Thank god people grow the fuck up after high school and mind their own business. Gays were terrorized in my high school, but even after I went to a VERY conservative, homophobic college for a couple years they were no longer attacked, just a bit avoided sometimes. Although to a high school student the last one or two years probably seemed like an eternity, the mother should've known that he was almost in the clear and he should've just learned to deal with it for the brief time left that he had to deal with these idiots rather than launching his own idiotic attack. He could've done it off of school grounds and most likely gotten away with it. Never a reason to bring a weapon to school.

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    This kid was terrorized by his classmates. Six students ganged up on him, the only reason they left, because he had a weapon. Instead of telling him to "tone down" his style the master minds should have been expelled. No if, ands, or buts about it.

    I recently had a problem with my six year old son this school year and a bully. Not just the normal picking on him and calling him names. My son was stabbed in his classroom with a pencil by this child. Not an accidental poke, stabbed in his rib cage. Thankfully my son only received a small puncture wound because of the amount of shirts he was wearing. The principal called me that night and we spoke for an hour. The child was suspended one day, the next day he came back to school he attacked my son with scissors. When I was pulled into the principals office that day at pick up time I told her point blank, either you remove the child from my son's classroom, or if it happens again my boy has my permission to stomp this little twit and if he doesn't I will be contacting the police and pressing charges. The boy was removed from my son's classroom that day.

    Yes this boy is openly gay. That gives no one the right to gang up on him. You can't remove high schoolers from a classroom to solve a problem. They will still find him. He has just as much right to a safe education as the other children. My philosophy is try to do the right thing first. Go to the school and talk it out. Try to solve the problem with them first. If that doesn't work take matters into your own hands. He couldn't fight these kids one on one. Six to one is not fair odds.
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    Kids get bullied for all sorts of reasons. You don't need to be LGBT to get bullied.

    What sort of parent thinks the answer to bullying is to send their kid to school with an illegal weapon? (Indiana law says you must be 18 to posses a stun gun.) If all else is seeming to fail, I'd switch my kid's school before I'd try that tactic.
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    I wouldn't arm my child with weapons. I would go to school first and if that failed, remove my kid. I don't see the need to play games with my child's safety. In High School they don't need to be in the same classroom, they will find one another regardless. So I would immediatley remove my kid from school, and problem solved....for now.
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    I was going to say she should have started out with a wiffle bat or something (visioned a younger kid for w/e reason) but this is about teens. They should be thankful it wasn't a cattle prod. Or a gun.
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    Yes,kids get bullied for all sorts of reasons but stastics show that LGBT students will get it far worse. In North Carolina today,there will be a vote on gay marriage and if you listen to the people who support the ban,it's disguisting. And if you don't think that filters into these schools,you are sadly mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja0980 View Post
    Yes,kids get bullied for all sorts of reasons but stastics show that LGBT students will get it far worse. In North Carolina today,there will be a vote on gay marriage and if you listen to the people who support the ban,it's disguisting. And if you don't think that filters into these schools,you are sadly mistaken.
    As the parent of an proud lesbian (and 5 other grown kids), I am well aware of bullying... in childhood, teen, and adulthood. It doesn't matter the reason for getting bullied. Handing a kid a weapon and sending them off to school isn't going to make the situation any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    As the parent of an proud lesbian (and 5 other grown kids), I am well aware of bullying... in childhood, teen, and adulthood. It doesn't matter the reason for getting bullied. Handing a kid a weapon and sending them off to school isn't going to make the situation any better.
    That's true. And I've been there as well. I know violence isn't the answer but in cases like this..I really can't find any sympathy with the perps.
    I do see your point and in the end,it would have been another victory for these pieces of garbage. The saddest part is that it had to come down to that.
    ANd from what I've read,he has been expelled. Such a shame the bullies weren't as well.
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    When I was in High School we didnt have all this crap that goes on now
    No worries about Columbine like situations
    No bullying really that I can think of
    I was teased a bit b/c in grade 6 my body developed overnight into a 18 yos
    And kids can be cruel when they have flat as scrub board boobs and someone else has all of theirs combined

    We had a couple gays in school and nobody cared
    They didnt dress like Liberace and show up,dressed normal but even if they had who the fuck cares
    Its wrong to tease a kid even if that kid is flamboyantly gay
    his choice and will have to learn what works for him and how to handle situations like that
    B/c after high school the real adult world is even worse
    Gay bashers that will kill you just b/c your diff
    I dont know why some do that unless they are insecure in their own sexuality?
    But its still not up to mom to arm the kid and send him into the school KNOWING how schools have changed since Columbine
    What we used to do at school and it seemed normal isnt normal anymore
    Its a new normal

    You cant do that crap,whats next ?
    the stun gun doesnt work after awhile so she loads him up with pellet gun,then hand gun etc
    Shes a mom and prob her first time having to deal with her gay child being bullied and honest to god I wouldnt know how to protect mine either if that were the situation
    But teaching him violence isnt the answer
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    although in my small under 2500 people town I went through school in, my friends dad showed up there with a shot gun b/c she was dating a black guy
    But her redneck dad was whacked out whackadoodoodle
    Used to wake them up piss drunk at 4am and hold a gun on them to row a fucking row boats
    Shes now married to that guy for 25 years and her dad died never speaking to her that last 15 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    When I was in High School we didnt have all this crap that goes on now
    No worries about Columbine like situations
    No bullying really that I can think of
    I was teased a bit b/c in grade 6 my body developed overnight into a 18 yos
    And kids can be cruel when they have flat as scrub board boobs and someone else has all of theirs combined
    [...]

    But its still not up to mom to arm the kid and send him into the school KNOWING how schools have changed since Columbine
    What we used to do at school and it seemed normal isnt normal anymore
    Its a new normal
    Actually, since Columbine in 1999, US schools have had LESS deaths. Schools were MORE deadly before Columbine. It was already declining when Columbine happened.

    What HAS changed is our perception because of instantaneous media and the internet.



    The School Associated Violent Deaths Report is an in-house report of the National School Safety Center dealing with school shootings and other violent deaths within schools.
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    This report covers all reported school associated violent deaths that the National School Safety Center knows of from the 1992-1993 School year to present. For purposes of this study, the new school year begins on August 1st.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Actually, since Columbine in 1999, US schools have had LESS deaths. Schools were MORE deadly before Columbine. It was already declining when Columbine happened.

    What HAS changed is our perception because of instantaneous media and the internet.



    http://www.schoolsafety.us/media-res...violent-deaths
    no I wasnt talking deaths I was meaning protocol
    Stuff we did in High School is totally off limits now b/c they are so extreme with stuff
    stuff we brought to school ,kids arent allowed to anymore
    6yos charged with sexually harrassement for singing a song he had no clue what the words meant,
    etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    no I wasnt talking deaths I was meaning protocol
    Stuff we did in High School is totally off limits now b/c they are so extreme with stuff
    stuff we brought to school ,kids arent allowed to anymore
    6yos charged with sexually harrassement for singing a song he had no clue what the words meant,
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    OIC. I hear "Columbine" and automatically assume deaths.

    Even when I was a kid, you would have been expelled for bringing a weapon into school. And if someone was a big enough bully, the vice principal would grab him by the shirt front and press him up against the lockers while yelling in his face. I (and most of the school) witnessed that first hand. Do that now and it's a lawsuit. Back then it was what happened if you couldn't behave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    OIC. I hear "Columbine" and automatically assume deaths.

    Even when I was a kid, you would have been expelled for bringing a weapon into school. And if someone was a big enough bully, the vice principal would grab him by the shirt front and press him up against the lockers while yelling in his face. I (and most of the school) witnessed that first hand. Do that now and it's a lawsuit. Back then it was what happened if you couldn't behave.
    lots of stuff I did that was normal would get me arrested too
    our french teacher was body builder and the one to pick you up by shirt with one hand and hold against wall a foot off the ground

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    You know, maybe we NEED some teachers to shove little terrorists against the lockers and tell them to shape up or ship out.

    Or maybe mom and dad or mom or dad need to start disciplining their little shits.
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