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    Baby Mystery After Teen Disappears Pregnant, Returns Not Pregnant

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    NEVADA, MO (KCTV5) -
    Lisa Wills was eagerly anticipating the birth of her first grandchild.

    But now she and police have many unanswered questions after a Missouri teen who was apparently ready to give birth disappeared and turned up almost a week later no longer pregnant.

    "I feel like somebody has taken a knife and stabbed my heart," Wills said. "I am praying he is out there somewhere alive and someone knows where the baby is."

    Because no charges have been filed, KCTV5 is not identifying the 17-year-old girl.

    KCTV5 learned Tuesday night that the girl has agreed to a medical examination to determine whether she recently gave birth or not.

    Wills said the girl became pregnant by her 18-year-old son James "Jimmy" Hume. The couple had their fights and lived for a time with Wills and her family in El Dorado Springs, MO.

    Wills said the girl had resisted seeing a doctor and had even lied about going to the gynecologist.

    "I begged her to go to the doctor. I begged her over and over and over," Wills told KCTV5.

    She said she was so concerned about the health of the baby that she called Missouri social workers and an attorney. But she said state officials told her that the mother had the right not to go to the doctor.

    "There was nothing I could do. I felt helpless," Wills said.


    Some have questioned whether the girl was actually pregnant, but Wills has no doubts.

    "I even touched her belly," she said, adding that her son felt the baby kick during the holidays. "I know she was pregnant."

    But she hasn't seen the girl since just before Christmas when a final fight between Hume and the teen resulted in the girl moving out of their home.

    Wills said she reconnected through Facebook recently with the girl.

    "We were getting along and everything. On Tuesday, I got a text from her saying the baby was fine and she went to the doctor and everything was good. She said it was just a waiting game now," Wills recalled. "I got a text Tuesday night saying she was leaving town to visit somebody's little girl who had cancer."

    Kelsey Paige Herring let the teen live with her starting four months ago. She received a similar text, saying the teen was visiting a relative battling leukemia.

    Wills said she tried unsuccessfully to reach the teen on Wednesday, knowing that the baby could be born at anytime.


    At 11:20 a.m. Thursday, Wills said she received a text from the teen. She said she was in the hospital after her water had broken and she began bleeding. She said the doctors couldn't find a heartbeat and the outcome looked dire.

    Wills frantically tried reaching her to find out what hospital she was in.

    "My grandchild was dying. I wanted to be there. She never answered back," she said.

    Then at 12:35 p.m. Thursday a text came back to Wills. Both she, Herring and others received the same text. That text said, "At 11:52 I gave birth to a five-pound, 2-ounce 13-inch baby boy. Rest in peace, baby."

    Wills remembers her reaction.

    "I fell to the ground and started crying," she said. "It's heartbreaking when you think your grandson is dead. I said, 'Why.' But she never answered me. I asked her to bring the baby back so we could say goodbye. She never answered me."

    Instead, Wills said the girl changed her telephone number so she could no longer reach her. She called an attorney but was told because her son wasn't married to the girl that there was nothing she could do. As a result, Wills said neither she nor her husband contacted police.

    But the authorities eventually were alerted. A national missing persons alert was issued for the girl and her baby, but the alert was canceled after the girl was found on Sunday. She was no longer pregnant.

    Wills said police talked to her son on Sunday night and that he is cooperating with authorities.

    "He wants his baby back if he's still alive," Wills said.


    Nevada Police Department Officer Lukas Gibson told the Springfield News-Leader that several friends and relatives received suicidal texts from the girl after she had said the baby died.

    In addition to talking to Hume, Gibson said police interviewed the girl's boyfriend who lives in Pleasant Hill. Wills said the girl had said she was planning to marry him on June 23.

    Gibson said the girl has not provided information about where the baby is.

    However, authorities indicated Tuesday night that the girl is now talking to investigators.


    Nevada Police Sgt. Jeff Baker said authorities are trying to determine if the teen had seen a doctor.

    Authorities in both Nevada and Pleasant Hill are working to determine whether she was pregnant or not. It wasn't immediately clear whether the girl received a medical examination while she was in police custody Sunday and Monday.


    Cass County prosecutor Teresa Hensley said through a staff member Monday her office wanted a follow-up investigation, according to the Associated Press.

    Herring is among those wanting answers. Both she and Wills provided KCTV5 with pictures of the girl appearing to show her in various stages of her pregnancy and showing off her growing belly.


    "Nothing is adding up right. None of the information she has given me in the past four months is," Herring said. "It is scaring me and I want to know where the little one is."


    The uncertainty is agony for Wills. She said she would have a nervous breakdown if not for the support of her church, friends and family.

    "I feel like my heart has been torn apart. This would have been my first grandchild. I was so looking forward to it," Wills said.

    While she maintains hope, Wills know this story may have a tragic ending.

    "In reality I don't think it's still alive," Wills said. "I think she probably dumped it somewhere. I hope it's not that case."

    A sobbing Wills struggled to regain her composure.

    "I plead for her to tell us where the baby is and what she did with it. I still love her," she said. "She will always be the mother of my grandchild. I just want to grab her and say, 'Tell us where the baby is.'
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    Seems like "the girl" was planning this all along while resisting obstetrical care. I feel bad for Willis, but she couldn't force "the girl" to have the baby and bring it back home, either. If "the girl" gave her baby up for adoption, there was nothing Willis could do to stop her, and I guess that she couldn't force her to have her baby in a controlled environment, either. So, now the baby is apparently dead and could be stored in a suitcase or something, but I doubt that because she wouldn't have had all that statistical information (weight, length) unless someone medical was attending.
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    Perhaps she really wasn't pregnant. That would definitely explain the refusal of prenatal care (an OB/GYN wouldn't be fooled for a second). It's been known to happen, women pretending to be pregnant, even making the dad think he's felt the baby kick, etc.

    If she WAS pregnant, I doubt that baby is alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather4877 View Post
    Perhaps she really wasn't pregnant. That would definitely explain the refusal of prenatal care (an OB/GYN wouldn't be fooled for a second). It's been known to happen, women pretending to be pregnant, even making the dad think he's felt the baby kick, etc.

    If she WAS pregnant, I doubt that baby is alive.
    I was thinking the exact same thing. She didn't want to go to a doctor because she was lying. Then how convient to be out of town when giving birth. I really hope she was lying and she didn't do something to the baby. It's easy to make up things such as weight and length. If she did lose the baby in a hospital there would be record of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather4877 View Post
    Perhaps she really wasn't pregnant. That would definitely explain the refusal of prenatal care (an OB/GYN wouldn't be fooled for a second). It's been known to happen, women pretending to be pregnant, even making the dad think he's felt the baby kick, etc.

    If she WAS pregnant, I doubt that baby is alive.
    Interesting, I had not considered that. I wished they would have shown pics of the swollen belly. If she was obese it might be easier to hide it.

    If she was never pregnant, there is no crime right? I think when she gets examined we will get an answer. I don't know how they can tell you have given birth but they can. There was a thread back a ways where forensically they determined the skeleton had given birth. spmething to do with the scarring of the pelvic bones. A recent birth may be more telling. I don't know that one.
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    I found Lisa and Jimmy's facebooks... Haven't found out who the 'girl' is through them yet though. I wanna see what she looks like.
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    there are pics of her
    she does look preg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    there are pics of her
    she does look preg
    I agree she looks pregnant especially in the first one on the bike. It's harder to stick your tummy out and pretend to play pregnant when doing normal things and not posing. Dear Lord I hope she didn't hurt that baby. I hope they find out she had him in the hospital and either gave it up or lost him naturally during child birth. Though I doubt that will be the case since well don't we know how these things end. Maybe she thought if she didn't go to the OB then it wasn't real or she could be one of those people who just hate doctors.

    Yes when and if she has the test done to see if she had given birth (I'm not sure how they do that either but if it was recent they can tell by hormone levels sometimes) I'm sure we will have more answers.


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    She looks like every other teenager at the mall.
    They all have their guts hanging out of too short of a shirt. Baby Phat.
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    13 inches? That is more like a 25 week old fetus in a normal pregnancy. That would be one short fat ass baby. Also, she just has to give the name of the hospital to prove what she is saying. She won't. She wasn't really pregnant. You can pooch out your belly to that size, and you can definately "pop" it to make it seem like a baby kicked. There have been grown men that got fooled about a bitch being pregnant.

    http://www.babycenter.com/average-fe...h-weight-chart


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nell View Post
    13 inches? That is more like a 25 week old fetus in a normal pregnancy. That would be one short fat ass baby. Also, she just has to give the name of the hospital to prove what she is saying. She won't. She wasn't really pregnant. You can pooch out your belly to that size, and you can definately "pop" it to make it seem like a baby kicked. There have been grown men that got fooled about a bitch being pregnant.

    http://www.babycenter.com/average-fe...h-weight-chart

    Good catch. I didn't even think about that. Even more to suggest she made the whole thing up. I know some people can push their belly's out and look pregnant (I myself can do that but never have to pretend to be) Maybe she is thicker in the middle anyway and gained some weight to keep up the appearance. I don't know how easy it would be to keep your belly pushed out for long periods of time cause I never tried.

    A lot of women fake pregnancies. I'm guessing she faked it cause she wanted to stay with the guy and/or needed a place to live since the original article says she lived with them for a while. Then when she decided she didn't want him no more she took off.


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    All she has to do is provide the information about the hospital she is meant to have given birth in. But instead of that she would rather go through a medical exam. I doubt she was ever pregnant. I think she is just an attention whore and drama queen, but doesnt have the capacity to pull off elaborate deceit.

    Maybe she underestimated just how involved Wills would want to be in the life of her grandchild. Maybe she thought if she just disappeared, that Wills would shrug and think ''oh well.......'' and forget about her.

    I hope that's the case, that she is just a needy bitch living in her own fantasy world where she is the star and all attention is on her. I hope it's not going to be another baby-meets-dumpster case.
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    As always, Nell is right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pazuzu View Post
    As always, Nell is right!
    Sure as the sun will rise pazuzu will turn in her bunk. How you doin' gf? Was just thinking of you yesterday.

    I can see the argument she is probably faking it, but the inner malq thinks it is equally possible she does not want to divulge the hospital or any info because murder is way worse than a lie. I still want to know specifically they can tell if a female has given birth recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    Sure as the sun will rise pazuzu will turn in her bunk. How you doin' gf? Was just thinking of you yesterday.

    I can see the argument she is probably faking it, but the inner malq thinks it is equally possible she does not want to divulge the hospital or any info because murder is way worse than a lie. I still want to know specifically they can tell if a female has given birth recently.
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    If she has given birth recently, her uterus would still be stretched out. It takes awhile for it to shrink back down. And she would still have the HCG hormone that woman have in their system while pregnant. I'm sure there are more things to check for, but those are the things that come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robynne View Post
    Malq,
    If she has given birth recently, her uterus would still be stretched out. It takes awhile for it to shrink back down. And she would still have the HCG hormone that woman have in their system while pregnant. I'm sure there are more things to check for, but those are the things that come to mind.
    Ahh yeah the hormone. That makes sense and is definitive.

    Attention whore or murderer? This will be interesting, but not shocking either way.
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    Hey Malq, how have you been? I am swell. I am sticking with the never pregnant vote.

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    A baby that weight would definitely be longer than 13 inches at full term, average length is usually at least 18 or so inches. If she recently gave birth she would be bleeding too, and alot.

    I think a big part is she enjoys jerking everyone around. Some people just love being in charge of others emotions and just keep jerkingthem around. I vote never pregnant. Just a bitch.

    ETA: A girl did this to my older son, she even invited him to the hospital to see the ultrasound, he showed up after she said the ultrasound was over and she showed him some pictures, my aunt even gave her a house to live in with her 3 year old and everyone was fooled for a while, until her mother made her tell the truth. My son was devastated, he had already named the baby Ethan Christopher, she needs to go to hell too!
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    I feel really bad Willis what a nightmare with the whole damn thing.

    Little bitch is what I'm thinking. Attention whore, trying to keep her man then realizing it was going to bust it all to hell having a kid between them, reality is a sobering thing. Possible she was pregnant, who knows for certain, but I REALLY hope there wasn't a baby ever just the wondering what happened to the little one is maddening. Glad I don't know this girl all kinds of fucked up.
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    I agree with Nell post. I had a crazy aunt that for years kept saying she was pregnant. She had a belly and she would show you the belly when the "baby" was moving. We all knew she was lying, she did that for years. Like about 3 or 4 years lol. Now people that did not know her fell for the lie but those like us that knew, just ignored her.
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    Police said Wednesday afternoon that a 17-year-old girl faked her pregnancy.
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    Pleasant Hill police said the girl spoke to detectives on Wednesday and underwent both a medical examination and evaluation.

    "During this interview, an investigating officer would learn from Ross that she had 'faked' the pregnancy for the last nine months," according to the news release from Pleasant Hill police. "After a review of that medical evaluation and examination, we are confident that there is no reason to continue an investigation."
    [...]

    Less than two hours before this news release was issued, Lisa Wills told KCTV5 that she still believed the girl had been pregnant despite a friend hearing from a Nevada police officer that she had faked the pregnancy.

    Wills said the girl became pregnant by her 18-year-old son James "Jimmy" Hume. The couple had their fights and lived for a time with Wills and her family in El Dorado Springs, MO.

    KCTV5 contacted Wills after receiving the police department's news release. Wills was in shock, and said she didn't know how she could have faked it.

    "Wow. I don't know how she faked it. She was so big," Wills said.

    She said she could not imagine why the girl faked a pregnancy.

    "So much has happened in the 24 hours. We don't know what to do. I am devastated. You get somebody's hopes all up," she said. "The baby moved. We saw her stomach."

    Wills had feared that her first grandbaby had been tossed into the trash. She said she is relieved to know that wasn't the case.
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    One time I didn't so much say I was pregnant, but agreed that I was when asked once. It was maybe 8 months after having my last baby and I had been having bouts of depression due to things that had gone bad earlier in the pregnancy. My body still ached for the child I once held in there.

    I can understand entirely a woman lying that she's pregnant because of loss, depression or other psychological condition. What I do not like or tolerate are woman who lie to get what they want, manipulate a situation and people for their own selfish needs. I don't know what her motivations were but for all those concerned it's probably for the best there was no baby to begin with as cruel as it was for Willis.
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    I feel so sorry for her, but I understand her feeling the way she does.

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    I can get a belly like that after a 12 pack of Schlitz Malt Liquor, an extra large anchovy, sausage and mushroom pizza with the 24 pack of hot wings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    I can get a belly like that after a 12 pack of Schlitz Malt Liquor, an extra large anchovy, sausage and mushroom pizza with the 24 pack of hot wings.
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    I can get a belly like that after a 12 pack of Schlitz Malt Liquor, an extra large anchovy, sausage and mushroom pizza with the 24 pack of hot wings.
    Bull Schlitz!

    TheMorningStar : I hear that my meat always smells damned tasty

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    Did someone call me?

    LOL bitch got found out!
    Your form is sloppy,
    Like your buttocks, tight no more.
    Still, I like your moobs.

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