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    US Forest Service Considers Using Explosives On Frozen Cows



    It may take explosives to dislodge a group of cows that wandered into an old ranger cabin high in the Rocky Mountains, then died and froze solid when they couldn't get out.
    Michael Carroll, a spokesman for the Wilderness Society in Colorado, said cattle are often allowed to wander on federal wilderness lands as long as the owner gets a permit from the Forest Service, and sometimes the animals get separated from the herd. The Forest Service said it is still trying to locate the rancher who lost the cows, and it was not known if the rancher had a permit.
    Forest Service spokesman Brian Porter said rangers saw about six cows inside the cabin, and several dead cows lying around the building.
    "There is a lot of snow, and it's hard to determine how many cows are there," Porter said.
    U.S. Forest Service spokesman Steve Segin said Tuesday they need to decide quickly how to get rid of the carcasses.
    "Obviously, time is of the essence because we don't want them defrosting," Segin said.
    Segin said officials are concerned about water contamination in the nearby hot springs if the cows start decomposing during the thaw.
    The options: use explosives to break up the cows, burn down the cabin, or using a helicopters or trucks to haul out the carcasses.
    But Segin said using helicopters is too expensive and rangers are worried about using trucks in a wilderness area, where the government bars permanent improvements and tries to preserve the natural habitat.
    Carroll praised the Forest Service for trying to remove the animals while doing the least damage. He said burning down the cabin or packing out the carcasses are probably the best solutions.
    "They need to use the minimal tool to get the job done. They don't want to leave the land scarred," he said.
    Segin said the Forest Service occasionally uses explosives to destroy carcasses of animals that can't be retrieved.
    "We've used them as a means of disposal to remove dead horses, elk and other animals in areas where it's impossible to get them out," he said.
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    The should learn a lesson from back in 1970 when Oregon decided to rid the beach of a dead whale:

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    Oh, George, not the livestock.....

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    Chainsaw, horses and pack mules, work best

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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    Chainsaw, horses and pack mules, work best
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    What did they expect was going to happen with that whale? that it was going to disintegrate? lol at the cars.
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    Dv, I was JUST coming to post about Oregon's massive whale fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    The should learn a lesson from back in 1970 when Oregon decided to rid the beach of a dead whale:
    I swear when I was reading this article the whale story is the first thing that popped into my head as well. I just hope someone is recording the bovine explosion in all it's sick glory when it happens!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    The should learn a lesson from back in 1970 when Oregon decided to rid the beach of a dead whale:



    @Dakota Valkyrie Ha... I saw this before Laughed my ass off..... Can you imagine whale chunks all over the place. This part had me laughing. " Not a seagull in sight to eat up the chunks blown every where".
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    I don't get it...does ANYTHING "disintegrate" if dynamite is used??????

    I bet if there were seagulls they were killed by those chunks. See, if JAWS had already come out they would have realized this was a bad idea....

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    Local forest officials are leaning toward not using explosives or fire to dispose of the dead cows discovered this spring near a popular backcountry camping destination outside of Aspen.

    Instead, plans being formed this week will have a U.S. Forest Service crew hike 8.5 miles to a cabin located near Conundrum Hot Springs with hand saws, and cut the carcasses into “appropriate-sized” pieces to disperse in the surrounding wilderness, said White River National Forest spokesman Bill Kight. Carnivorous wildlife is expected to take care of the rest.

    “We’ll get the effects of the decomposition spread out,” Kight said, adding that an official decision is expected to be signed-off on mid-week. “It may take a while.”
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    The cows are believed to have sought shelter in the cabin during an early-winter snowstorm, but became too packed inside to get out, causing them to perish. A rancher with a grazing permit in the nearby Gunnison National Forest reported that 29 of his cattle went missing in the fall, possibly explaining where the animals came from. There are believed to be multiple other dead cows in the area, but it’s unclear how many.

    When first informed of the situation, Forest Service officials had considered blowing the cows up with explosives, or setting the cabin on fire. It’s imperative to do something with the carcasses before the warm weather begins drawing the thousands of hikers who visit Conundrum each year. If the cattle are allowed to thaw and decompose where they are, it could lead to water contamination in the hot springs, as well as conflicts between humans and bears, which will be drawn to the meat.

    Using saws and spreading the cow parts around was ultimately recognized as the path of least resistance, Kight said.

    “It’s the easiest and quickest way to make it happen,” he said.

    Explosives are expensive, and the logistics of using dynamite or fire to get rid of the cows would prove challenging, particularly with this season’s wildfire worries.

    The cows are located in the Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness, which means no chainsaws would be allowed. Higher-ups in the Forest Service could waive the rules in the event of an emergency, but in this case, no such waiver is anticipated, Kight said.

    It’s unclear what the exact composition of the saw team will be.

    If more cow carcasses are found as the snow melts, forest officials will deal with those situations when they arise, Kight said.
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    ''Conundrum'' ha ha!! How apt.
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    Hacksawing dead cows... Sure glad I don't have THAT job
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    If they want to preserve the wilderness, leave the dead cows be. That's what happens in nature when man's not around to muck it up. Oy vey! Why is that so hard to figure out?

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    The cows are believed to have sought shelter in the cabin during an early-winter snowstorm, but became too packed inside to get out, causing them to perish. A rancher with a grazing permit in the nearby Gunnison National Forest reported that 29 of his cattle went missing in the fall, possibly explaining where the animals came from. There are believed to be multiple other dead cows in the area, but it’s unclear how many.
    This same rancher is probably petitioning the forest service to kill all the wolves because of his missing cows, despite the fact they probably all froze to death.
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