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    Elizabeth & Aaron Ramsey Arrested
    Missing 11-year-old starved to death in locked bedroom, Dallas police say
    DALLAS – Police say a missing 11-year-old Dallas boy slowly starved to death after his parents locked him in his bedroom, feeding him just bread and water.

    Police received a call on Friday from the grandfather of Johnathan Ramsey, who was concerned about his grandson because he had not seen him for at least nine months and possibly as long as a year, myFOXdfw.com reported.

    During interviews with the child's father and stepmother, police received conflicting accounts of what happened to the boy.
    The questioning led police to believe the child had died and search teams on Saturday began looking for his remains in a large field.

    The father, 34-year-old Aaron Ramsey, and the stepmother, 31-year-old Elizabeth Ramsey, were arrested and charged with first-degree felony charges of injury to a child. They remained in custody Sunday, with bail set at $500,000 each.

    Police records reveal that in the last few months of Johnathan's life he was locked in his bedroom and fed "military rations" -- bread, water and occasionally milk -- as punishment for bad behavior, The Dallas Morning News reported.

    Aaron Ramsey, who once served in the military, told police that his son had begun acting in a violent manner early last year, including punching his stepmother in the stomach, causing her to have a miscarriage.

    After that incident he hit the child and locked him in his bedroom, where he remained until his death, slowly withering from 90 pounds (40kg) to about 60 pounds (27kg) between March and August last year.

    Elizabeth Ramsey described the boy as "looking like one of those kids you see on commercials from Africa," in interviews with police. She described him "as being really thin and explained that he was unable to walk at times due to loss of strength."

    Aaron Ramsay said sometime in August last year he found the boy unresponsive on the floor of his bedroom and, after washing his body, placed him in a sleeping bag before dumping the body in a storm shelter of a vacant house nearby.

    Later he dumped the boy's body in a wooded area -- leading to the search Saturday, which was called off about 5:00pm local time without anything being found.

    Johnathan's biological mother lives in New Mexico. Police said she was notified by detectives about the search for her son and that she, too, had trouble getting straight answers from the boy's father about where he was.

    "Whenever she contacted the father, he would give a reason of where the child was," Deputy Chief Sherryl Scott told myFOXdfw.com.
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    Neighbors Ask Why More Aren't Facing Charges in 11-Year-Old Boy's Starvation Death
    DALLAS— Dallas Police have called off the Ellis County search for the body of 11-year-old Johnathan Ramsey. Police say weather and dense terrain made it too difficult to continue. His father, Aaron Ramsey, and stepmother, Elizabeth Ramsey are being held in the Dallas County Jail. According to police records, obtained by the Dallas Morning News, the couple confessed that they starved Johnathan to death and dumped his body in rural Ellis County.

    The Ramseys are facing first-degree felony charges of injury to a child. More charges could be forthcoming. The Ramseys could be facing murder charges if the body's found. Because of Texas's Mandated Reporting Law, more people could be facing charges.

    According to the records, Johnathan spent the last months of his life in a house in northeast Dallas. He was locked in his room and fed only water, bread, and sometimes milk. He even once ate his own feces.

    Yards away, neighbors were totally in the dark. Beau Hughey says he last saw Johnathan years ago, but that didn't strike him as strange.

    "Truthfully, it's not because, with society the way it is, building privacy fences and everything, neighbors just don't see each other anymore," said Hughey.

    Hughey says he did see someone else living in the house, along with the Ramseys.

    "I saw her almost daily," he said.

    According to the Dallas Central Appraisal District, the Ramsey's do not own the home. Hughey says he believes they were renting and living with their landlord's daughter. He wants to know why she isn't facing charges.

    "Did she know anything? Was she part of it? I don't want to point fingers, and I don't want to give false witness, but I just have to wonder why. Why, if she was there, she let it go on?" said Hughey.

    If the third resident did know about the starvation, she could face charges, even if she never abused Johnathan. Any adult who witnesses child abuse is required, by Texas law, to report it.

    "Every adult over the age of 18 is a mandated reporter," explained Lynn Davis, President and CEO of Dallas Children's Advocacy Center. "Call CPS, call the police. Immediately."

    Hughey's convinced that third resident is not the only one who could be charged with violating Texas' mandated reporting requirements. He, and several other neighbors, say the Ramsey's had family living across the street.

    "Elizabeth [Ramsey]'s parents live across the street. Did they not have any interest in their step grandson at all?" asked Hughey.

    When we stopped by Sunday afternoon, there were people at both homes, but they would not speak with us, and refused to identify themselves.
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    Saw this on the news tonight and it made me mad enough to strangle kittens with pink bows. Sorry to all you kitten lovers out there I'd never strangle a cat unless it deserved it.
    Seriously tho...people who choose to starve children to death should be rationed the same anount of food they gave their victim til they die. Altho by the looks of these chum buckets that could take a while!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CbabyRKO View Post
    Saw this on the news tonight and it made me mad enough to strangle kittens with pink bows. Sorry to all you kitten lovers out there I'd never strangle a cat unless it deserved it.
    Seriously tho...people who choose to starve children to death should be rationed the same anount of food they gave their victim til they die. Altho by the looks of these chum buckets that could take a while!
    by the looks of the hambeasts they never missed a fucking meal

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    The ones that starve kids never seem to be thin . If there was a room mate I hope she is charged also .
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarfree irony View Post
    The ones that starve kids never seem to be thin . If there was a room mate I hope she is charged also .
    From what I read tonight(google and millions of articles come up) I think down the road there will be more arrests even if only for neglect for then ones that didnt say anything to save him
    B.c quite a few knew something was going on

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    I don't even know what to say about this. I'm just sad for this boy. I don't know how anyone could treat a child this way, especially their own. I don't know how you can just dump the body of your child (or any child) like trash and just not look back. If he was that bad why not send him to his mother? Obviously he acted like a brat because he lived with cruel, heartless fucks who shouldn't raise a puppy let alone a child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CbabyRKO View Post
    Sorry to all you kitten lovers out there I'd never strangle a cat unless it deserved it.
    Isn't that basically all cats?

    Aaron Ramsey, who once served in the military, told police that his son had begun acting in a violent manner early last year, including punching his stepmother in the stomach, causing her to have a miscarriage.
    Hmmmm, I wonder if that violence was prompted by the sort of child neglect/abuse that culminates in a kid starved to death and callously disposed of in a sleeping bag. This excuse of a father didn't even make an effort to check for vitals, attempt to revive him or summon help - clearly he wanted him dead, not punished.
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    i fukin hate these stories big time

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    The starving cases should be all fucking charged with 1st degree murder and a mandatory life sentence. WHO IN THE FUCKING WORLD DOESN'T KNOW THAT IF YOU DO NOT EAT & DRINK ENOUGHFOOD AND WATER WON'T DIE.And I refuse to take it as a punishment for the simple fact is that a PUNISHMENT is one particular incident. Say they wanted to punish the kid by denying food: DON'T LET THEM HAVE ICE CREAM ONCE! THAT is fucking punishment. Not eating & wasting away, you can fucking SEE the kid is WASTING away & yet you choose to continue the "PUNISHMENT"? That shows intent in my opinion.

    Starving cases always have hambeasts for the aggressors.


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    The starving cases really get to me. If you are punishing them by withholding food until they are too weak to raise their heads then what can they do at that point to merit the punishment. It's an excuse to make what they are doing okay in their minds.

    I just don't understand this and all the others that do it. I'm glad I don't understand it.


    And really I don't think an 11 year old could hit someone hard enough to cause a miscarriage unless he was hitting her with a hammer. Of course I could be wrong.
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    Ugh a story of death by starvation how I hate these...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    The starving cases really get to me. If you are punishing them by withholding food until they are too weak to raise their heads then what can they do at that point to merit the punishment. It's an excuse to make what they are doing okay in their minds.

    I just don't understand this and all the others that do it. I'm glad I don't understand it.


    And really I don't think an 11 year old could hit someone hard enough to cause a miscarriage unless he was hitting her with a hammer. Of course I could be wrong.
    Hunger as a punishment (or a consequence) is one thing, but starvation goes beyond any realistic concept of discipline. Hunger can happen in hours. Starvation is a continual decision to not feed or underfeed a victim. That's right -- VICTIM. There is no way this child earned slow starvation. As you have pointed out, he was too weak to carry on misbehaving in whatever way they were claiming.

    Besides, the answer to a violent dangerous child is involving police. If he seriously caused a miscarriage, that would be reason enough to get DCS involvement, juvie, whatever. But I suspect that even if the child could have done that, it was because he was being provoked, abused, ridiculed, something, by the step-monster. Obviously, the paternal unit was not on his side. Probably starting a new family and uninterested in the remnants of his old family.

    I'm also a bit shocked by this:
    Elizabeth Ramsey described the boy as "looking like one of those kids you see on commercials from Africa," in interviews with police. She described him "as being really thin and explained that he was unable to walk at times due to loss of strength."
    Considering the step-monster said this, I have to wonder at her demeanor when telling it and whether she is near to claiming she had no control over the situation. I want to believe that when someone invokes that description, they are concerned and appalled. Were that so, she might have had the cache to stop the "punishment", mend his relationship with his father, and save his life. This clearly didn't happen, so was she just okay with it? Or, can we say that she's going to go with the abused spouse, too overwhelmed and catatonic to care about anything but her own survival?
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    Investigators said Edward Ramsey, Aaron's father, went to police with concerns about his grandson's safety. He told investigators he wanted to see his grandson, but his son was always coming up with excuses.

    Elizabeth Ramsey's Facebook page includes dozens of family photos in 2010 and early 2011. There are photos of Aaron Ramsey and his son visiting a model train display at a local mall; the boy at the couple's wedding; and Jonathan kissing his stepmother's pregnant belly.
    he allegedly hit a pregnant Elizabeth Ramsey in the stomach, causing her to lose their triplets.
    The boy's maternal grandparents told News 8 in a telephone interview Sunday that they would send birthday and Christmas gifts to Johnathan, but never got a response.
    Wouldn't these be the ones just across the street?
    Starla Swanson, the boy's maternal step-grandmother, said Johnathan's mother is devastated and filed court papers for visitation last year. She told News 8 that Aaron and Elizabeth Ramsey lied to everyone for months. They feel betrayed.

    "There are no words. You feel like a failure. You wish you would have tried harder, faster. Grandparents have no rights," said Swanson.

    Swanson hoped she would get to see Johnathan when he was older. She said she would have not stopped trying to get in contact with him. Those hopes are now gone.
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    Post Boy Who Was Starved To Death By Parents Ate Own Feces

    Dallas, TX – This is one of those horrendous child abuse stories that keep me from typing up another child abuse story for a week or so. But if you are looking to hate anyone today, I give you Aaron and Elizabeth Ramsey, a Texas couple who admitted to starving a 10-year-old boy to death. Police began looking into the disappearance of Jonathan Ramsey after the child’s grandfather contacted them last week, concerned that the boy had not been seen since January 2011 and the boy’s father was giving him different reasons why. After being questioned by police, 34-year-old Aaron and 31-year-old Elizabeth would finally admit that the boy was dead and that Aaron had disposed of his body in an unknown location. But an affidavit has been released that details exactly how the boy was killed and the details are absolutely sickening. According to Elizabeth Ramsey, who is the boy’s stepmother, they began starving the boy in March 2011 after the boy punched her in the stomach while pregnant with triplets, supposedly causing her to lose the babies. Elizabeth said that her husband Aaron locked Johnathan in a bedroom and only fed him bread, water, and occasionally milk. The boy went from 90-pounds to 60-pounds and according to the affidavit, the boy was so hungry that he ate his own feces. When he died in August, he was so weak he could not stand.*Elizabeth told detectives that he looked “like one of the kids you see on the commercials from Africa,” according to the affidavit. She admitted she should have contacted authorities while the boy was being tortured, but chose not to. Aaron Ramsey told investigators that after his son’s death, he stuffed his body in a sleeping bag with dryer sheets to help cover the smell of his son’s rotting corpse. He then placed the*body next door in a vacant home’s storm shelter for a few days before moving the body to a rural part of Ellis County, where police are currently searching. The couple were both arrested and charged with felony injury to a child. Personally, I hate sharing the air with these two. If I were running this joint, the only space they’d be occupying right now would be under the dirt, feeding the worms.
    This article is from The Dreamin' Demon, the Internet's self-appointed buzzkill.


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    Starved Boy’s Biological Mother Says Ex-Husband Withheld Food
    DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – The 34-year-old father accused of starving his 11-year-old child to death has a history of limiting food to his family as a form of punishment, the boy’s biological mother said Monday.

    Dallas Police on Saturday charged Aaron Ramsey, 34, and his wife Elizabeth Ramsey, 31, with injury to a child. Investigators believe they deprived 11-year-old Johnathan Ramsey of food until he died and then left his body in a wooded area south of Ennis between six months and a year ago.

    Police have not recovered the body, but said charges may be upgraded if Johnathan’s remains are found.
    The boy’s biological mother told 1080 KRLD on Monday that Aaron Ramsey began acting strangely after he returned home from serving in the military in Iraq eight years ago.

    “When me and him were living with his mom he was starting to do that to the rest of us; sort of, with just eating rice and beans,” said Judy Williams, Aaron Ramsey’s ex-wife and Johnathan’s mother.

    Williams and Aaron Ramsey divorced in 2007, court records show. After returning from overseas eight years ago, Williams said her husband wasn’t himself.

    “I can’t really describe his behavior, it was bizarre,” she said. “He became very controlling, just different,” she said. “I can’t really explain it too much, he just wasn’t the same. He had anger issues, I know that.”

    Williams and Aaron Ramsey have another child named Eric who is 8 years old. Williams has custody of that child and was fighting for visitation rights of Johnathan, her stepmother Starla Swanson said.
    Williams, who now lives near Albuquerque, N.M., said the last time she spoke to Johnathan was in January of 2011. She said the Ramseys “always had an excuse of why he couldn’t come to the phone.”

    [...]
    In January 2011, Williams said her ex-husband changed both his mailing address and phone number.

    “I had no recent phone numbers, I had no recent address, I had no idea where the kid was even living at,” she said. “I had no way of knowing where he was.”
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    He said he and his wife locked the boy inside his room and began feeding him “military rations” consisting of bread, water and occasionally milk. The police documents say the boy weighed 90 pounds in March and was 60 pounds at the time of his death.

    Elizabeth Ramsey told investigators she saw the boy “eat his own feces” and later found him on the floor unresponsive and foaming from the mouth. She said they gave Johnathan a bath then “put on his favorite T-shirt and pants on and put him in a sleeping bag.”

    The arrest warrant says the Ramseys then took the boy to a storm shelter next door to a vacant house and left him there for “one or two days” before dumping him in the area south of Ennis.

    During the interview Monday, Williams rebuffed the idea that her son was violent and said there is no excuse for what her ex-husband and his wife are accused of doing.

    “Saying he was violent? I’m sorry, I do not believe that unless he was provoked,” Williams said. “There’s no way he could’ve been violent –– I don’t believe that.”

    Over the weekend, a neighbor said that she had seen the boy in the Ramseys’ backyard. She said she thought he looked unhealthy.

    “His little arms were just thin. You know, too thin for a 10-year-old child,” said Rita Woodruff, whose house backs up to the Ramseys’.

    Williams said she is saddened and enraged by what happened to her son. She said she can’t fathom the details behind the Ramseys’ charges.

    “How dare you do this to my child, you know? Why couldn’t you just email me or call me, because you had my phone number, and say, ‘Hey, we can’t handle him, come and get him,’ or, ‘We’re going to send him to you,’” Williams said. “Why couldn’t you just call me and tell me?”
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    “Saying he was violent? I’m sorry, I do not believe that unless he was provoked,” Williams said. “There’s no way he could’ve been violent –– I don’t believe that.”
    How violent can a starving little boy get?


    Williams said she is saddened and enraged by what happened to her son. She said she can’t fathom the details behind the Ramseys’ charges.

    “How dare you do this to my child, you know? Why couldn’t you just email me or call me, because you had my phone number, and say, ‘Hey, we can’t handle him, come and get him,’ or, ‘We’re going to send him to you,’” Williams said. “Why couldn’t you just call me and tell me?”
    It's just evil, no other word can describe their motives if not evil. His mom fighting to see him, and these 2 ungodly mother fuckers making sure his days were numbered. But why? Obviously he hated his own son, so why not just hand him over to his mother, why was death the only option??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mybabiesmomma View Post
    Obviously he hated his own son, so why not just hand him over to his mother, why was death the only option??
    Power tripping. Using kids as pawns. He hated the mom more. "Winning".

    All that sicko crap that people get caught up in and kids suffer for.
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    Well, I've been thinking about it, and if the paternal unit and step-maternal unit truly suffered a miscarriage and blamed it on the boy -- not saying rightly so -- they might have felt vengeful enough to kill him. Maybe considered it punishment befitting the crime. I sincerely doubt the boy actually was the cause of the miscarriage, and I can't fathom the twisted mind that would believe he did, but you know . . . anyway you look at it, these two adults are f***ing psychopaths.

    Johnathan was a beautiful boy. He looks very bright and full of life in those photos.
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    Why the hell did the bio-mom have one child, and the abuser have the other? Why split brothers up like that? And if her ex was not 'right' after returning from Iraq, had 'anger issues', and was witholding food even then, how the fuck did he get custody of Jonathan?

    Elizabeth Ramsey told investigators she saw the boy “eat his own feces” and later found him on the floor unresponsive and foaming from the mouth. She said they gave Johnathan a bath then “put on his favorite T-shirt and pants on and put him in a sleeping bag.”

    The arrest warrant says the Ramseys then took the boy to a storm shelter next door to a vacant house and left him there for “one or two days” before dumping him in the area south of Ennis.
    ??? Did they even check if he was actually dead before they dumped him in the shelter? Or didn't they want him to actually die in their house, so took him and dumped him to die all alone, not returning for a couple of days to make sure he had actually really gone and died?

    These two are fucking Evil with a capital E. I'd like to sew their mouths shut with fishing line. Then if they want to eat they would have to force their mouths open and shred their lips. All that would be available for them would be bread soaked in vinegar, salty water, and faeces.
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    Has an interview with the paternal grandmother, who has a very hard time understanding this. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fat...145850315.html
    According to arrest affidavits released Monday, Aaron and Elizabeth Ramsey said the boy was starved as punishment for kicking his stepmother and causing a miscarriage. . . .
    Julie Ramsey, Johnathan Ramsey's grandmother, said she finds the details hard to believe.

    "I can't imagine Aaron letting that happen," she said. "He was his pride and joy. He wanted to be a father."

    Julie Ramsey said that while she was concerned, she never thought anything like this would happen. She said she felt like she lost two boys -- her son and grandson.
    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fat...145850315.html
    "They would give information like the child was staying with the mother or the child was at Boy Scout camp -- things like that", said Deputy Chief Sherryl Scott with the Dallas Police Department.

    Johnathan was finally reported missing last week.

    But Elizabeth Ramsey's parents live across the street from the home where the couple is accused of keeping Johnathan locked up until he died.

    "Did they not have any interest in their step grandson at all", said neighbor Beau Hughey.
    http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-wit...,5471806.story

    I am just sick about this. That boy was so sweet and it's just unbelievable that those "parents" would intentionally starve him. But they did. And they weighed him. And they continued to starve him. And then they hid the body. There is no way this was some unintentional manslaughter ooops.
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    This is what gets me about the starvation cases, anger is not involved in this, except for maybe at the very beginning, "GO TO YOUR ROOM, NO SUPPER FOR YOU!!!" but after that it takes a cold and calculating evil quasi human being to continue this day after day after day until the child starves to death. After the initial anger, what explains this except hyper controlling evilness. How does one person, who is capable of this, find someone else who'll let them get away with it? She doesn't seem cowed by her husband at all, telling how she saw him eating his feces like it was nothing.

    I have step children, at least I did, until I divorced their father, and I still think of them today even tho I haven't seen them in about 12 years, but I loved them, still love them, and I would have protected the same as my own, if necessary.

    Once again, something I truly don't understand!

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    Dammit, I hate these stories. How on earth someone can just sit and do nothing, knowing that a child is lying in the next room starving to death!?? That little boy died a long and painful death.

    God, I get so mad reading these things. They never give a real reason for it. It's always something off the wall, like the kid was a disciplinary problem or something. Starving him is not going to improve his attitude toward misbehaviour. He will simply be too weak after a point to put any effort in misbehaving.

    Just kill the worthless sack of shit who they actually call a father, and do the stepmother and real mother for good measure. That poor little guy. It actually hurts my heart to read these stories.
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    Starving is the evil of evils in which to a suffer a child.
    I read something like this and it feels like the first time I've read such a thing. I believe it's the constant day reminder as we nourish our bodies with the first signs of hunger--a reminder, how much one needs food, how quickly one yearns for it like nothing else...a maddening way to die.

    That picture above is haunting. A child hungry for affection, in his eyes more than sadness but an already knowing look at what his life has become...and if he could only run, and hide.....leave it all.


    Words for you Johnathan come to me but only break my heart. In your darkest of moments lying as death didn't come soon enough....feeling as if the world was just hate and sorrow, pain and anguish... I pray the torment is but a faded memory....
    Embraced and loved....not the dream but your eternal.
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    The details are heartbreaking and difficult for the child's mother, Judy Williams, to talk about.

    Williams said she last spoke with her son more than a year ago, but said she always hoped she would have another chance.

    "My poor little boy," Williams said, during an interview Wednesday afternoon. "I'd just tell him how proud I am of him, and how much I love him and miss him."

    . . .

    Williams said she last talked with him on the phone more than a year ago, while Johnathan was living with his father and stepmother in Dallas. But after that, she said her ex-husband and his wife cut her off from all contact with her son.

    "I just couldn't talk to him," Williams said. "I couldn't see him, couldn't even send him anything... I had no phone numbers, no address, nothing."

    Williams said she would check her phone for occasional e-mail updates on how Johnathan was doing, and was assured by her ex-husband that her son was always okay.

    . . .

    "I'm just numb right now," Williams said.

    . . .

    In a quiet Texas town, investigators said Johnathan suffered a slow, silent death.

    . . .

    Williams said her only bit of solace will be seeing the Ramsey's pay for what they did.

    "I didn't see this coming," Williams said. "Poor kid, didn't have to suffer and die."

    Williams said she never had the money to travel to Dallas to physically check on her son.
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    Dallas police officers believe they have found the remains of an 10-year-old boy who starved to death. Officers searching in rural Ellis County near Ennis found the remains Saturday, authorities said.

    Police found the remains in the same area where authorities say the child's father, Aaron Ramsey, told police he put the body. . . .

    The remains cannot be identified as Johnathan's until an autopsy is completed. Officers found the remains around 2 p.m. after they used pumps to drain part of a creek.

    Officers have been searching for Johnathan's remains for a couple weeks after the boy's father and step-mother apparently confessed to locking him in a bedroom last year for months. He mostly bread and water, and he became so frail and hungry that he ate his own feces, court documents show.

    From March to August last year, Johnathan's weight dropped to 60 pounds from 90. Police believe the boy died sometime around August. After the boy died, Aaron Ramsey and Elizabeth Ramsey bathed Johnathan, placed him in his favorite t-shirt and slid him into a sleeping bag with a dryer sheet to curb the smell, they told police.

    The boy's body was placed in a wooded rural part of Ellis County. Police have been using cadaver dogs to search for his remains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Power tripping. Using kids as pawns. He hated the mom more. "Winning".

    All that sicko crap that people get caught up in and kids suffer for.
    I wonder how long after mom filed for visitation the abuse began. I bet if hating the mom was the motive there will be a direct link between the time she started fighting for rights and the time the abuse began.


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    Well I'm glad if nothing else he is going to be finally be properly laid to rest. Hopefully it will bring some closure to those who loved him. I'm also glad now that the body has been found they plan on upgrading charges (at least that's what one of the previous articles has stated) Hopefully the monsters that allowed him to starve to death and tossed him like garbage will never see the outside of a prison for the rest of their miserable lives.


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    R.I.P. now, Johnathan. x
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    RIP Jonathan...You will never feel pain, or hunger again. So sorry sweet boy.
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    Some familial reactions are in the news today. It seems that there is a lot of confusion in their hearts.

    “It’s just terrible that little kid has to be treated like that,” the boy’s great grandmother, Cynthia Ramsey, told News 8. She remembers teaching him to walk, but said she hadn’t seen him in more than one year.

    “Johnathan’s been so precious to me. I love him… I just can’t hardly stand this,” she said through tears.

    Johnathan’s grandparents became suspicious about the boy’s whereabouts and alerted police in March.

    Edward Ramsey, the paternal grandfather, said he’s been relying on his deep faith, but is having trouble forgiving his son.

    “I’m working on that,” he said. “I can’t say what is or was in his heart.”
    http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/...148440695.html
    Edward Ramsey told CBS that he was worried, but the family always had an excuse as to why the boy couldn't come to the phone.

    'In our eyes, he wasn’t missing because there were excuses,' Mr Ramsey said. 'It was hard but you don’t want to put too much pressure.' . . . .

    'This child was horribly murdered. If this is in fact Jonathan’s body, he was discarded, brutally discarded,' Sgt. Brenda Nichols told CBS.

    'Because this child has not been at rest, we have not been at rest. This has been extremely emotional for everyone involved – the family and all the officers involved in this investigation,' Sgt. Nichols said.

    Julie Ramsey, Johnathan's grandmother, wept when she spoke to Fox News about her son's alleged crime.

    'He was a good daddy, a wonderful daddy. He'd go to the ends of the earth for anybody... especially Johnathan,' she said. [Sorry, Grandma, clearly that was not true any longer. He not only lost the twins in utero, he lost his born son by his own hand because he threw him away callously.]

    At the same time, she insisted there might be more to the story than a brutal, prolonged murder. [What, exactly, could you even imagine? You poor deluded woman, I can't blame you for not wanting to see the truth, but it's pretty hard to ignore. You'll eventually have to face it.]

    'We don't know what happened. We don't know exactly what happened,' Ms Ramsey said, reassuring herself that the truth could not be as heinous as it seemed. [There really can be no excuse, but I'm sure some lawyer will do his level best to find one.]
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

    More pictures and video at the second site.
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