After reading this thread http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...re-Looks-Happy Coffee Slinging Evelyn Harris Sure Looks Happy posted by our lovely Dakota Valkyrie . I began to think about dead beat dads and unwanted babies ,and or babies only wanted by one parent . I was searching the boards to see if there were any threads about the ease ( legally ) in which a single woman can have a baby and not be forced to support the child physically , emotionally , or financially namely , adoption and safe haven . Where as a single man is not given the option of placing an unwanted infant up for adoption if the mother opposes that decision , and has been deemed fit to raise the infant . I'm not sure what would happen if a single dad took his baby to a safe haven drop off without the mother's consent .I imagine the mother would be able to have the infant returned , and perhaps have the father charged with kidnapping and abandonment . But I'm not sure . Often the single man is forced to provide financial support for the infant and is not given the opportunity ( after conception ) of completely opting out of fatherhood . I know women pay child support too , but they can choose to opt out of parenting . A single father can relinquish his parental rights however will often be ordered to continue to pay child support unless the child is adopted by the mom's new partner .
In my search of the board I found this thread http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...ort+visitation 175 Killer Dads:Dads Who Ended Their Children's Lives Involving Custody,Visits,Etc posted by our lovely Whisper . I know that not all fathers ( and mothers ) who are unhappy about paying child support kill their children . But it does happen . I'm only quoting four cases where child support is listed as a factor in the murders , but there are several in the article that mention child support .Voluntary termination, also called relinquishment of parental rights, is not taken lightly by the courts and is not easy to do. Unless there is a plan for another person, such as the mother's new husband, to adopt the child, a father cannot voluntarily relinquish parental rights. This would create an undue burden on the custodial parent.
The custodial parent must also consent to the termination. If the custodial parent is receiving public assistance, the courts will not allow a father to relinquish his parental rights. Even if the father is not providing financial assistance at the time, the court wants to reserve the right to continue pursuing child support.
Father: GIDEON WALTER OMONDI
Victim(s): Richie Omondi (4 years)
Date of Death: 2006
Father shared custody with the child's mother. Drowned son to avoid child support. Father convicted of 1st-degree murder in January 2010.Father: DENNIS POTTS
Victim(s): Tori Vienneau (22 years), Dean Springtube (10 months)
Date of Death: July 2006
Father is convicted September 2009 in the murders of his former girlfriend and son. Father didn't want to take paternity test, pay child support.Father: WESLEY JONATHAN WILLIAMS
Victim(s): Danielle Baker (mother), sons Ahmaad (4 years) and Amarion (1 year), and unrelated infant.
Date of Death: 2005
Father allegedly committed quadruple murder because he was angry about child support.
To add to the mix you have men like Frank Hatley , and Morgan Wise victims of paternity fraud .Father: MARINO SALINAS
Victim(s): Avee Hunter (4 months)
Date of Death: April 2010
Father charged with 1st-degree murder. Prosecutors say that father plotted to kill baby to avoid child support.
http://www.people.com/people/archive...138571,00.htmlFrank Hatley spent the past year in jail for being a deadbeat dad. But there's one problem -- Hatley doesn't have any children.
Morgan Wise could not bring himself to open the envelope. He gave the thick letter to his wife, Beverly, who finally looked inside. When he heard her crying, Wise knew the news was bad: Results from a DNA testing lab proved that three of his four children from a previous marriage had been fathered by someone else. "I was gasping for air," says Wise, 40, of that day in 1999. "I was crying. What man doesn't think his own kids are his?"
Still, there was another nasty surprise. A Texas court ruled that, though he was not the biological father of the three boys, then aged 6, 8 and 10, he had to keep paying $1,100 a month in child support to his ex-wife. In January the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear his appeal, leaving him baffled. "Why do I have to pay this woman who is not being held accountable?" says Wise, who would rather spend the money directly on the children. "This is wrong."All of these things led me to contemplate what it would be like today if child support were voluntary. Would there be less children murdered ? Would there be less children concieved ? Would private charity fill the gaps , or would we be taxed more to support these children ? Would there be chaos , or personal responsibility ? Also those of you that remember what it was like before mandatory child support please share your observations .It is not known just how many men are paying to help raise kids they did not father, but what is clear is that the law is not on their side. Almost all states require nonbiological fathers to keep paying child support even if they were deceived by their spouses. "This is an area in which technology has simply moved more quickly than the law," says David Westfall, an expert in family law at Harvard. No one disputes that it is the children who suffer most, emotionally and financially, when such conflicts arise. But, says West-fall, "it does seem wrong to stick the nonbiological father [with the child support]. Someone's going to be hurt, but why not the mother or the commonwealth?"
Thank you @malq for letting me bounce ideas off your brain .