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    3 Y/O boy Commits Suicide With Gun At Gas Station In Car

    Very little details on this so far.
    TACOMA, Wash. - A 3-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed himself with a gun he found in a car as a family made a stop early Wednesday at a Tacoma gas station.

    Police Officer Naveed Benjamin says the man put his pistol under the seat and got out to pump gas while the boy's mother went inside the station. They left her son and the man's 4- or 5-year-old daughter in the car.

    Benjamin says the boy climbed out of his child seat, found the gun and accidentally shot himself. He was declared dead at a hospital. The girl was not injured.

    The family has not been identified. Benjamin says they are not from Tacoma and their car has Oregon plates.
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    What a truly tragic story. Poor lil' girl to have to see it happen. RIP lil' guy. You're much safer where you are now.

    What the hell kind of parent shoves a gun under the seat of a car? WHY wasn't it locked up in the glove-box? OR in the trunk or some place where the child couldn't get to it? WHY was it even loaded in the first place? I wonder if he's (the dad?) feeling any remorse or regret for his stupidity....


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    ...Omg, can we say a preventable fucking tragedy? Had this guy been more interested in proper gun safety and storage instead of gassing up his ride this baby would still be a live. Why the fuck was the gun in the car in the first place? I hate guns so theres no way in hell my husband would have a gun in the vehicle out in plain fucking sight of the kids. Kids are curious. In this case fatally so.
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    I can understand the desire to carry a weapon, but one must carry through with all the proper safety precautions at all times. I don't see how this family will every recover from this, but one can hope they will learn to live with it.
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    Accidentally shooting yourself doesn't qualify as committing suicide. Suicide implies an intent to end your life, this was an accident.
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    Complete stupidity.
    So very tragic, not a suicide but death by a grossly negligent parent.

    A bit more. This one says the sister is an infant, not a 4-5yo ... not sure, sources vary.

    A 3-year-old boy fatally shot himself with a gun he found in a car while his family stopped for gas early Wednesday in Tacoma, police said. It was western Washington's third recent shooting by a child."It is incredible in light of the other ones," said Tacoma police Officer Naveed Benjamin. "You would think people would take more care, not less."

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    They left their son and their infant daughter in the car. The boy climbed out of his child seat, found the gun and shot himself in the head, police said. He was declared dead at a hospital. The girl was not injured.
    Detectives questioned the parents and have called the shooting a tragic accident, Benjamin said. The father has a concealed weapons permit, and no charges are anticipated, he said.

    Washington does not have a law specifically concerning child access to firearms.
    "Responsible people will maintain gun safety whether there is a law or not; irresponsible people will ignore the law," said Dave Workman, senior editor of the group's publication, called thegunmag.com."

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    That kid wanted to play with the gun. So he got up and out and decided to check it out.
    A concealed weapons permit? He should be charged for not "concealing" the weapon.
    Poor little man just being the curious 3 year old that all children his age are, and now he will never go to school, never date a girl, never have a family, all because the moron didn't use proper safety precautions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvahalo View Post
    Complete stupidity.
    So very tragic, not a suicide but death by a grossly negligent parent.

    A bit more. This one says the sister is an infant, not a 4-5yo ... not sure, sources vary.



    "Responsible people will maintain gun safety whether there is a law or not; irresponsible people will ignore the law," said Dave Workman, senior editor of the group's publication, called thegunmag.com."

    Common stupidity has replaced common sense.
    Rest in peace little one.
    Yep; Darwin at work; tragic though that the result skipped a generation and cost the child his life. Fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robynne View Post
    That kid wanted to play with the gun. So he got up and out and decided to check it out.
    A concealed weapons permit? He should be charged for not "concealing" the weapon.
    Poor little man just being the curious 3 year old that all children his age are, and now he will never go to school, never date a girl, never have a family, all because the moron didn't use proper safety precautions.
    The weapon could have been concealed, concealed doesn't mean locked up, it just means out of sight.

    concealed weapon n. a weapon, particularly a handgun, which is kept hidden on one's person, or under one's control (in a glove compartment or under a car seat). Carrying a concealed weapon is a crime unless the party with the weapon is a law enforcement officer or has a permit to carry a concealed weapon (usually issued by local law enforcement under guidelines of need--such as being a carrier of large amounts of cash in business--and having a record free of convictions, arrests or improper activity).
    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...ncealed+weapon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsolete View Post
    The weapon could have been concealed, concealed doesn't mean locked up, it just means out of sight.



    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...ncealed+weapon

    He did a shitty job of concealing (hiding) the weapon, and now a 3 year old is dead. If you openly conceal something in front of a child, they will know where it is. And the fact that you're hiding it makes it that more interesting.

    Just my take on this... he should have done a better job of keeping that thing away from that little boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robynne View Post
    He did a shitty job of concealing (hiding) the weapon, and now a 3 year old is dead. If you openly conceal something in front of a child, they will know where it is. And the fact that you're hiding it makes it that more interesting.

    Just my take on this... he should have done a better job of keeping that thing away from that little boy.
    I'm not disagreeing that he should have kept the gun out of the reach of the children and I'm not disagreeing that he should be charged because of that. I was just pointing out that a charge for not concealing the weapon wouldn't apply because concealing it could mean as little as having it under a seat or in a purse.

    Actually, having a gun doesn't mean you have to keep it concealed, but if you do have it concealed you need a permit. So there wouldn't be a need to charge someone with failing to keep it concealed.
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    I think the biggest issue I have with this is that the gun was obviously within the child's site (or he saw daddy hide it) and the fact that the gun did not have the safety on. This tragedy is purely the act of an irresponsible gun owner. It's trully sad this little boy paid the price for his dad's stupidity.


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    Jahnisha McIntosh Charged With Manslaughter For Leaving Gun & 3yo Alone,Hes Dead

    Jahnisha McIntosh has been charged with manslaughter in the accidental shooting death of her son, Julio Segura-McIntosh, who shot himself with a gun found under a car seat
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    TACOMA, Wash. — A mother who authorities say left her 3-year-old son unrestrained in a car after she placed a pistol under the driver's seat has been charged with manslaughter in the death of the boy, who shot himself in the head while the woman went to get food.

    The woman's boyfriend, who is the gun's owner, was also charged.

    "Nothing is sadder than the death of a child, and when the death is the result of criminal negligence, there needs to be accountability," Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said Wednesday. "Guns are inherently dangerous, and the law, as well as common sense, requires that guns be handled responsibly, especially around children."

    The mother, Jahnisha McIntosh, 23, and her boyfriend, Eric Vita, 22, made their initial appearance on the second-degree manslaughter charges Wednesday afternoon in Pierce County Superior Court. They both pleaded not guilty.

    Julio Segura-McIntosh's death on March 14 was the third child shooting in Western Washington within three weeks. On Feb. 22, an 8-year-old girl was critically wounded by a gun that went off in a classmate's backpack in a Bremerton school. On March 10, the 7-year-old daughter of a Marysville police officer was killed when her brother found a gun in the family car.

    In Julio's case, Vita and McIntosh had stopped for gas in Tacoma. Vita, who has a concealed weapons permit, removed his gun from his waistband to avoid alarming the clerk and placed it under the passenger seat, the prosecutor said.

    Julio had unbuckled himself and climbed into the front seat to ask his mother for candy. McIntosh moved the gun from under the passenger seat to under the driver's seat so Julio could not reach it. Then, she went inside the convenience store for food, leaving Julio unrestrained, the prosecutor said.

    Julio found the gun and shot himself in the head. McIntosh's 8-month old daughter was in the car at the time and was not hurt.

    Friends and family told detectives that Vita routinely showed off the gun with a laser sight and on one occasion offered to let Julio hold the gun before another adult intervened.

    Vita's attorney, David Gehrke, told KOMO that that shooting was a tragedy that has left everyone involved in shock. Vita acted reasonably, he said.

    "I think he was being very careful. He did not just leave the gun there, without another adult present. And I think if the mother had stayed in there, this probably would not have happened," Gehrke said.

    "My understanding is that the child went from the back seat to the front seat, got the gun, the mom took it away and said, `No, leave that alone,' and then put it under her seat. And then inexplicably she got out and went into the convenience store to buy something," he said.

    Gehrke said he's not blaming the mother.

    "She lost her child, and that should be punishment for any parent in a circumstance like this," he said.

    [..]
    Washington state law is specific about carrying loaded pistols in vehicles, however. A person with a concealed weapons permit must lock the gun and conceal it from view if it is left in the car.

    [...]

    Snohomish sheriff's spokesman Kevin Prentiss said Wednesday that investigators are wrapping up loose ends and finishing interview transcripts, and the case should go to the prosecutor's office within two weeks. Detectives used child interview specialists to question children.
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    Wow, she left him in the car??!? He's TINY!! And there was a GUN in the car too? We don't have many guns in australia. This whole scenario is wrong.

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    And finally the truth of the matter is revealed. If its true Eric Vita once tried to let little Julio hold the gun then I am not surprised he thought it was okay to retrieve the gun and play with it.
    Secondly I call bullshit on him getting the gun once and the mom taking it from him only to put it underneath the drivers seat and then go in the store after she obviously knew well and good he could get to the gun.
    This really is a case of felonious stupidity on the part of the mom and the boyfriend. He could have put the gun in the trunk.
    Becoz driving around with it in his waist band is just as idiotic as storing it under the seat of a car. The proper place to store a weapon when children are around is a place they cannot feasibly reach or get into. The inside of a car is not one of them unless like I said its stored in the trunk.
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