
[QUOTE=Occucrabs;604468]But you just did say it.
I think @RockinMa is right.
In my opinion, if you truly did change, you wouldn't need 'formal recognition' for those changes. You wouldn't need to make a post singing your own accolades. The mature, and right thing to do, would be to return, apologize for who you have hurt, and move on, instead of telling us how much you've changed, show us by your words and actions and how you respond to others on the site.
Btw, rehab should only mean something to *you* not to us. We aren't your disease and we aren't part of the cure. Whatever you put into sobriety is what you get out of it. If you work the 12 steps, truly work them, they work for you.
For all we know you *might* be a decent person, but your reactions tell us a completely different story.
I apologize if what I say offends you, but I am being as kind as I can be, in my words because if you truly are trying to better yourself, I don't want to see you fail. Most everyone who knows me on here, knows I don't 'sugar coat' anything. And I won't 'coddle' anyone.
~shadow
"Too much mercy, often resulted in further crimes which were fatal to innocent victims who need not have been victims if justice had been put first and mercy second." -Agatha Christie
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[QUOTE=Occucrabs;604472]staying off drugs is a daily battle. Having been clean for over 2 years, its just too hard to be called out on the very things youve battled and beat daily.. black tar and xanax, that pierced throiugh my heart like s bullet. all those years of fighting urges and going through ewithdrawls just to be called a fucvking druggie.
Show me where I called you & I quote?a fucvking druggie
I never did so STFU! We all have our personal demons!
I have battled mine & I know what it is to get the shakes but guess the what I did it! So put on your big girl pants are get the hell out!
Better to fight for something than live for nothing. George S. Patton
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall. - Vince Lombardi
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it was the taco dogs comments, when you fight to stay clean and for all your efforts youre told you re high as fuck. im not in a good emotional state because i just so wanted some positive energy, and when i saw how many of you defended me i wanted to come i wanted to come thank you for it.


Lets not start this all up again. This is not the Karen Show. If you didn't want anyone to comment on you, your past, or any of the drama, you could have just left it all out of the picture and posted asshat-directed commentary like everyone else.
You're not gonna get pats on the back or kicks in the ass unless you deserve it. Like every other member on this site (and in life), you earn the respect, acceptance, inattention, or scorn of others based on your activity. So far the activity has been little beyond bringing attention to yourself and your universe.
If you want to avoid the drama, just leave it be and go about the business of being a site member... or not.
I will have no problem closing this thread or even banning you to avoid the fiasco of the last time.
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I have a very close friend who is like a brother to me. He has been clean and sober for about 3 1/2 yrs now. He fights the fight daily. People still call him an addict even though he's clean. They always throw it in his face about the things he did when he was on drugs. I have other close friends who are recovering addicts that have put their families and friends through hell, and often times from people in their past, it's thrown in their faces about what they used to be and what they used to do. Some people can't let go of the past, and move forward. This doesn't mean you shouldn't try. It means you should be that much more determined to stay clean and do the right thing, keep making the positive changes in your life.
Btw, I didn't see where Taco called you a 'druggie'.
~shadow
"Too much mercy, often resulted in further crimes which were fatal to innocent victims who need not have been victims if justice had been put first and mercy second." -Agatha Christie
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That "guy" was Seductress. not a guy.
LOL what are you doing Karen? I stuck up for you back then, don't make me do it again. This site is different now. We don't have DRAMA WARZ anymore. most of the regular posters here are very cool people. giving one of them shit can only lead to you getting ganged up on. I can't remember why you got banned and I am not gonna back to that thread to find out but I think it was being argumentative, for no reason. I have to admit, you have not lost your flair.
Stick around and be yourself without asking for a fight. Hey you have been clean for two years. I am happy for you. Addiction is a bitch. I have not crapped on the hood of my old bosses car since you left either. Look around and read some threads and comment on them. you have a lot to catch up on.
Start new we wont give you shit if you don't give us any and you will be one of us.
1-2-3 GO-you are new
"Where the fuck am I ? - Amelia Earhart, 1937
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles, but at least they drive slowly past schools.->malq
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Gawd. This shit devolved faster then even I thought it would.
Well said @malq.
Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. - Percy Byshe Shelley
We love where the lightening strikes, and that's not always where we thought it would.-Carolinablue
I believe that what we do for others is all we leave behind when we die.-Carolinablue
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[QUOTE=ceisdsgil;604475]I dunno shadow, her getting clean means a lot to me. Like a lot of people, she has been thru hell, but most don't have the balls to own it. those that do can crow a little. BTW not everyone that quit using uses the 12 steps. Some use the crab theory.
Whatever works man
"Where the fuck am I ? - Amelia Earhart, 1937
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles, but at least they drive slowly past schools.->malq
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anyways now that my little wahhh they think im high is over fresh 1-2-3 go, i remeber this place differebtly, of course i was on drugs. Even those words are triggers and i had to hit s meeting tonight. But im back and this was just me being a baby point blank. im not a baby, im a lobster.:) so lets get down to having some dd fun, you guys/gals ae the most relentless ppl on the net and i love all of uoi, thank you all for cutting me one break. im going to bed im pretty beat but when i saw that im in i wwanted you to know im staying because i KNOW i need to be around a place like this, i gotta grow me a set a balls and what better examples then you people? you rock!!!
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I was here probably at the arse end of all the drama warz. While it was entertaining, it's a lot less stressful these days, not worrying about who might flip out at you over a misunderstood comment.
I don't believe I knew you from before, but welcome back! Hope you enjoy your second go-round better than the first! :)
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awwww... I must've hit a nerve. Occucrabs 'disapproved' of this comment: "I have a very close friend who is like a brother to me. He has been clean and sober for about 3 1/2 yrs now. He fights the fight daily. People still call him an addict even though he's clean. They always throw it in his face about the things he did when he was on drugs. I have other close friends who are recovering addicts that have put their families and friends through hell, and often times from people in their past, it's thrown in their faces about what they used to be and what they used to do. Some people can't let go of the past, and move forward. This doesn't mean you shouldn't try. It means you should be that much more determined to stay clean and do the right thing, keep making the positive changes in your life.
Btw, I didn't see where Taco called you a 'druggie'.
~shadow"
Thanks for breaking my 'disapproval cherry'. LOL
~shadow
"Too much mercy, often resulted in further crimes which were fatal to innocent victims who need not have been victims if justice had been put first and mercy second." -Agatha Christie
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"Where the fuck am I ? - Amelia Earhart, 1937
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles, but at least they drive slowly past schools.->malq
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"Never make a decision when you need to pee."
--Leonard Cohen (Beautiful Losers)
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"Too much mercy, often resulted in further crimes which were fatal to innocent victims who need not have been victims if justice had been put first and mercy second." -Agatha Christie
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Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. - Percy Byshe Shelley
We love where the lightening strikes, and that's not always where we thought it would.-Carolinablue
I believe that what we do for others is all we leave behind when we die.-Carolinablue
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Wait, is this the hooker?
"We live in a world where we have to hide to make love, while violence is practiced in broad daylight.” - John Lennon
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Yep.
Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. - Percy Byshe Shelley
We love where the lightening strikes, and that's not always where we thought it would.-Carolinablue
I believe that what we do for others is all we leave behind when we die.-Carolinablue
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Shit, even I've been groaned before. Anyway, welcome back, Karen / Occucrabs.
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they like flowers and music and white girls named Debbie too."
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Move along folks... nothing to see here...
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fuck a bunch of this rehab bullshit...where's my shot?
fuck me, fuck you, fuck my life, and fuck the world.
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I am so confused, and after reading this thread I'm thinkin' it's probably best I stay that way.
ETA: Sorry @Dakota Valkyrie . Somehow I just read the first page of remarks and didn't see this second one until after it posted mine. Moving along now.......
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