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    Lightbulb Pink Slime

    I couldnt embed the video at link but it shows and explains "Pink Slime" another reason for me not to eat meat anymore, Im mainly a cheesy girl, but do we want our kids eating this for school lunches? In all fairness, we need to have a choice what our children eat... and this is the stuff they used to make dog food out of, what are our dogs eating now?

    "Pink slime," a food additive made from spare beef trimmings that's treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill off E. coli, salmonella and other possible bacteria, continues to rear its slimy head.

    Last month, as KTLA reported, McDonald's decided to cease using the additive in its hamburgers. (we've been eating it without being told) This decision came after prodding by TV chef Jamie Oliver. On his "Food Revolution," the disgusted food activist says the additive is made of "all of the bits that no one wants."

    The USDA, however, says the additive is safe to eat. The department is so satisfied with the stuff that it plans to buy 7 million pounds of ground beef containing "pink slime" in coming months for the national school lunch program, the Daily reported on Monday. And that's created a whole new stink.

    Texas mom Bettina Siegel has a petition going at Change.org to get the additive out of school lunches.

    An ABC News report on Wednesday stirred up more anti-pink-slime sentiment. ABC cited a former U.S. Department of Agriculture scientist in saying that 70% of supermarket ground beef contained the additive.

    Meanwhile, over at the Cattle Network, American Meat Institute President J. Patrick Boyle defended the process as well as the product in an article Thursday, saying the "lean beef trimmings" were "absolutely edible" and that using them ensured that "lean, nutritious, safe beef" did not go to waste.
    I wanna see this "quoted scientist" eat the pink slime like a bowl of stawberry ice cream!(SEE VIDEO AT LINK)

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...tory?track=rss
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    I saw this with the McDonald's debacle, and OMG disgusting. I don't eat meat anymore, but will still sometimes eat fish or seafood when I'm about to go batshit crazy and order a pile of BBQ ribs, rare steak, and Baja Citrus chicken. I will also use cheese for my "breaking times," because I try not to eat that, either. I am actually trying to get to where we eat no processed foods, but goddamn it can be difficult.

    My son, who is three, has told me that he doesn't eat cows or pigs, but he likes to eat chickens. He knows that I don't eat animals, but Daddy does. He is making up his own mind, lol. He helps me prepare his lunches every day. He eats veggie nuggets and veggie corndogs, but will still eat chicken nuggets, too. He was eating broccoli last night. I was proud.

    A friend of mine started the juicing diet. He juiced for seven days straight and then incorporated salads back into his diet. No meat. He is doing spectacularly, lost over ten pounds in two weeks and his skin looks great - and has inspired me to give it a shot.

    Does anyone know the difference between macrobiotic and raw food? I thought it was basically the same diet, but saw that macrobiotic has fried fish in it?

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    A macrobiotic diet (or macrobiotics), from "macro" (large) and "bios" (life), is a dietary regimen which involves eating grains as a staple food supplemented with other foodstuffs such as local vegetables, avoiding the use of highly processed or refined foods and most animal products. Macrobiotics also addresses the manner of eating by recommending against overeating and requiring that food be chewed thoroughly before swallowing. Macrobiotics writers present it as a means of combating cancer.[1]

    The macrobiotic theory contradicts accepted scientific and medical knowledge. Medical professionals[citation needed] refute the claims that a macrobiotic diet can cure diseases.[citation needed] The traditional form of the macrobiotic diet can lead to serious nutritional deficiencies.More at link
    Might just be me but sorry, I dont even want my dogs eating that pink shit, I do feed them kibble but I make them one fresh food meal daily like chicken , sweet potatoes, little corn and rice, even cheese, I add different things daily but no way would i feed them this pink slime, dont think they would eat it anyway... well maybe they would, they are dogs but at least I hope they wouldnt... seriously, since its so " safe I wanna see one of those scientists eat it on camera...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrobiotic_diet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohring View Post
    I saw this with the McDonald's debacle, and OMG disgusting. I don't eat meat anymore, but will still sometimes eat fish or seafood when I'm about to go batshit crazy and order a pile of BBQ ribs, rare steak, and Baja Citrus chicken. I will also use cheese for my "breaking times," because I try not to eat that, either. I am actually trying to get to where we eat no processed foods, but goddamn it can be difficult.

    My son, who is three, has told me that he doesn't eat cows or pigs, but he likes to eat chickens. He knows that I don't eat animals, but Daddy does. He is making up his own mind, lol. He helps me prepare his lunches every day. He eats veggie nuggets and veggie corndogs, but will still eat chicken nuggets, too. He was eating broccoli last night. I was proud.

    A friend of mine started the juicing diet. He juiced for seven days straight and then incorporated salads back into his diet. No meat. He is doing spectacularly, lost over ten pounds in two weeks and his skin looks great - and has inspired me to give it a shot.

    Does anyone know the difference between macrobiotic and raw food? I thought it was basically the same diet, but saw that macrobiotic has fried fish in it?
    A macrobiotic diet (or macrobiotics), from "macro" (large) and "bios" (life), is a dietary regimen which involves eating grains as a staple food supplemented with other foodstuffs such as local vegetables, avoiding the use of highly processed or refined foods and most animal products. Macrobiotics also addresses the manner of eating by recommending against overeating and requiring that food be chewed thoroughly before swallowing. Macrobiotics writers present it as a means of combating cancer.[1]
    The macrobiotic theory contradicts accepted scientific and medical knowledge. Medical professionals refute the claims that a macrobiotic diet can cure diseases. The traditional form of the macrobiotic diet can lead to serious nutritional deficiencies
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    Raw foodism (or rawism) is the practice of consuming uncooked, unprocessed, and often organic foods as a large percentage of the diet.
    Depending on the type of lifestyle and results desired, raw food diets may include a selection of raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds (including sprouted whole grains such as gaba rice), eggs, fish (such as sashimi), meat (such as carpaccio), and non-pasteurized/non-homogenized dairy products (such as raw milk, raw milk cheese, and raw milk yogurt).[1]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_food_diet

    I just went on a whole foods diet and was discussing it with my neurologist who advocates a high protein diet. She is against it and said that getting our protein from nuts and other things isn't as good as getting it from meat. I dunno. I am sticking with my new eating habits because it has helped me gain more energy and I just feel better. I down a protein shake in the morning and take a multivitamin so I think that should be good enough. As for the pink slime, I find it disgusting and don't let my kids eat fast food. When we do have meat, it's usually chicken breast or pork loin...things that I know don't have the additives. I will have to keep an eye on their school lunches and make sure they take cold lunch on the days they are serving hamburgers and nuggets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMeaningOfItAll View Post
    When we do have meat, it's usually chicken breast or pork loin...things that I know don't have the additives.
    Choosing a "whole" meat isn't a guarantee unless it's labeled "additive free" and one actually trusts the source of that label. Another new rule (mentioned below) has not passed yet, so unless someone raises their own chicken and pork, there is no way to know if the label is telling the truth.

    In a news release announcing that FSIS is poised to require more prominent additive labeling, Dr. Elisabeth Hagen, under secretary for Food Safety, said there is a need for a new rule because "it has become evident that some raw meat and poultry labels, even that follow our current guidelines, may not be clear."

    For example, the agency explained, both a plain chicken breast and a chicken breast injected with solutions can be labeled as "chicken breast," even though one is purely chicken meat and the other may be 60 percent chicken meat and 40 percent additives.
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    Without such specific, easy-to-understand information, FSIS said labeling of some raw meat and poultry products "is likely to mislead consumers." USDA estimates that 30 percent of poultry, 15 percent of beef and 90 percent of pork contain added solutions.

    "Consumers should be able to make an informed choice in the store, which is why we need to provide clear, informative labels that will help consumers make the best decisions about feeding their families," Hagen said in the written statement.

    Chicken breasts, pork tenderloins and other foods pumped up with saltwater solution can have five times as much sodium as would naturally occur in those foods, noted the Center for Science in the Public Interest, which applauded the labeling proposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMeaningOfItAll View Post
    I just went on a whole foods diet and was discussing it with my neurologist who advocates a high protein diet. She is against it and said that getting our protein from nuts and other things isn't as good as getting it from meat. I dunno. I am sticking with my new eating habits because it has helped me gain more energy and I just feel better.
    What makes you feel best is of course, the best diet for you.

    I have heard both sides and every one in between (I work at a medical university, so everyone thinks they're the expert). That Americans get far too much protein, that vegetarians get too little protein, that our bodies aren't meant to break down red meat, that fish is the only way to go, that society is needing more and more dental work because of evolution, and our meat eating ways are making our teeth bigger than our mouths - huh? That juicing is best, that vegan is best, that high protein is best, etc, etc, etc.

    I need more energy. What I really want is a greasy ass cheeseburger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Choosing a "whole" meat isn't a guarantee unless it's labeled "additive free" and one actually trusts the source of that label. Another new rule (mentioned below) has not passed yet, so unless someone raises their own chicken and pork, there is no way to know if the label is telling the truth.
    And don't forget mechanically separated chicken (I believe beef has been outlawed?). UGH! Although I belive the FDA or USDA or someone just made it so they have to state if it is or isn't. Yuck.

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    Oh Gawd!!! This Tuesday I had the pleasure of purchasing Pork Loin Chops that had worms all over it and a huge stamp labeled "Fresh" across the package.

    Now since reading about Pink Slime, I am now a Vegetarian. Thanks to @VXIII and my local Food 4 Less store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mybabiesmomma View Post
    Oh Gawd!!! This Tuesday I had the pleasure of purchasing Pork Loin Chops that had worms all over it and a huge stamp labeled "Fresh" across the package.
    You've never opened a can of vegetables and spotted a worm? Or even a frozen one? (I have!) Or seen the infamous picture of the frog in the bag of lettuce? Or heard of the many food-born illness outbreaks from veggies? Going vegetarian won't stop you from shitty products. Knowing your source - of any product - goes a long way in protecting you from icky things.

    Going vegetarian as a health reason is a whole different thing... but even vegetarians have bad food supplier stories.
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    @Dakota Valkyrie..believe me after my experience last Tuesday, I am reading up on everything I buy. I think I am going to loose more weight then I already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Going vegetarian as a health reason is a whole different thing... but even vegetarians have bad food supplier stories.
    I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons (I guess I should call myself a pescatarian), but MAN I have seen some nasty things in pre-made vegetarian foods or in the organic veggie bins in the produce section. It's why I try to make everything myself. If I get lazy, or am dying for a burger, man, I inspect my Morningstar Grillers.

    Speaking of them, has anyone had the new California "Turkey" Burgers from Morningstar? They're good!

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    Join a CSA already! Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Choosing a "whole" meat isn't a guarantee unless it's labeled "additive free" and one actually trusts the source of that label. Another new rule (mentioned below) has not passed yet, so unless someone raises their own chicken and pork, there is no way to know if the label is telling the truth.

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/0...ist-additives/
    I should have clarified that we live where fresh beef, pork, chicken is readily available from local farms. We get our meat freshly butchered from a family friend and store it in the freezer. Of course, there are times we run out and I pick something up from the store and I am aware of the additives. You bring up a good point, though. There are probably a lot of people who don't know that the meat they are buying has additional additives. Hubby and I joke how the pizza places don't call their meat hamburger anymore, they call it "beef" as in "it comes from a cow but not necessarily the parts of a cow you want to know about".
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    One time when I was little about 7 or 8 my grandma gave my mom 2 live chickens, we played with them for a few days feeding them birdseed then she told me and my brother to take them across the street to Mr. Dixon who had a farm, we didnt know what was going to happen but he grabbed the chickens so fast and chopped thier heads off, he took the carcasses to my mom, she made soup but we couldnt eat it because it was our chickens there she cooked, we sat in the trees and cried. If I was ever left on my own devices to eat what I kill, id probobly be eating grass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    You've never opened a can of vegetables and spotted a worm? Or even a frozen one? (I have!) Or seen the infamous picture of the frog in the bag of lettuce? Or heard of the many food-born illness outbreaks from veggies? Going vegetarian won't stop you from shitty products. Knowing your source - of any product - goes a long way in protecting you from icky things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf View Post
    I opened a can of collard greens once and found half a grasshopper. After I'd eaten half of the can.

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    Here is a link to a petition someone emailed me today to stop using pink slime:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/tell...e=action_alert
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    I have no clue why people are surprised by "Pink Slime". I haven't bought ground beef from a non-butcher in a decade (at least) because of the fillers and shit in it. Maybe it's because I know what ground beef is supposed to look like. I know the stuff in the store is not red - it's pink and mooshy. Even the "lean" stuff at the grocer isn't the thick red of fresh butcher ground beef. I have no clue if our grocers hamburger has pink slime in it but I prefer the stuff ground that day by some guy that can tell me there's no fillers/additives and even knows where the cows came from. It tastes so much better.

    This is NOT for any health reason I do that (although Pink Slime does not add any nutrition - only filler). It's to control my gag reflex while cooking.

    If I choose a hamburger while eating out, I just don't think about it. "Pink Slime" IS organic material, just not what most folks think of as "meat". And just like I don't eat goat, bear, turtle or a bunch of other "meats", I don't want to eat beef lips, buttholes or whatever else they may toss in.

    “Pink slime” is beef trimmings. Once only used in dog food and cooking oil, the trimmings are now sprayed with ammonia so they are safe to eat and added to most ground beef as a cheaper filler.

    It was Zirnstein who, in an USDA memo, first coined the term “pink slime” and is now coming forward to say he won’t buy it.

    “It’s economic fraud,” he told ABC News. “It’s not fresh ground beef. … It’s a cheap substitute being added in.”

    Zirnstein and his fellow USDA scientist, Carl Custer, both warned against using what the industry calls “lean finely textured beef,” widely known now as “pink slime,” but their government bosses overruled them.

    According to Custer, the product is not really beef, but “a salvage product … fat that had been heated at a low temperature and the excess fat spun out.”

    The “pink slime” is made by gathering waste trimmings, simmering them at low heat so the fat separates easily from the muscle, and spinning the trimmings using a centrifuge to complete the separation. Next, the mixture is sent through pipes where it is sprayed with ammonia gas to kill bacteria. The process is completed by packaging the meat into bricks. Then, it is frozen and shipped to grocery stores and meat packers, where it is added to most ground beef.

    The “pink slime” does not have to appear on the label because, over objections of its own scientists, USDA officials with links to the beef industry labeled it meat.
    [...]

    ABC News has learned the woman who made the decision to OK the mix is a former undersecretary of agriculture, Joann Smith. It was a call that led to hundred of millions of dollars for Beef Products Inc., the makers of pink slime.

    When Smith stepped down from the USDA in 1993, BPI’s principal major supplier appointed her to its board of directors, where she made at least $1.2 million over 17 years.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...ns-pink-slime/

    Pink Slime is disgusting to me but if a burger is good, I'm just not going to ruin it by thinking about what it's exactly made of. The only thing it will harm is my appetite. It's like not thinking about the sausage casing as I bite into that elk bratwurst the kids gave us...

    What is a bit ironic is that the bones and trimmings of beef is what I usually use for soup stock. You can ask your butcher for bones/trimmings and they will sell it to you... or give it to you if they really like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    That's worse than going down on a girl and finding toilet paper.
    Malq you really know how to lighten a mood!!! LMAO

    Oh, and as gross as pink slime is,....there's nothing that can kill my appetite quicker than biting a piece of gristle in ground meat or chicken, whatever. I hate it,..tendon, cartilage,.etc. YUCK. So if that is what pink slime is,..at least its ground up where I can't tell what it used to be.
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    I saw this story on the news the other night and was really disgusted by it but also felt somewhat secure because my hometown store was one of the ones who responded that they do not and never have used "pink slime". I only shop @ HEB and they are only in Texas. My daughter also works for them and I have to say it is a remarkable store in a lot of ways. All you have to do is pick up their meat and you can tell a difference between it and a store who uses pink slime. I am now using more and more of their organic meats, too. I am new to this organic movement but can tell you I wish I had hopped on sooner for my children's sake. After seeing a video my mom posted about the pasturization process of milk, I had to switch to organic which eases my mind a little, but wish I had access to a raw dairy farm.

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    I wish I could find a good dairy farm too! There's nothing like real butter,..my grandma used to get it and it was so different that what's in stores. I'm considering getting a couple chickens and maybe a cow,..just have to find out if I have the room and the permission from the county,....that's how it is here in GA if I want to keep from pissing off my neighbors. lol
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    My brother-in-law is a dairy farmer. They do not drink unpasteurized milk due to the dangers associated with it. They buy milk in a grocery store.
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    Was it just a rumor about worms being used as fillers? I seem to remember that when I was younger, but maybe it was just an urban legend.

    Yeah, I think it was just an urban legend. I can't find anything saying it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    Was it just a rumor about worms being used as fillers? I seem to remember that when I was younger, but maybe it was just an urban legend.

    Yeah, I think it was just an urban legend. I can't find anything saying it's true.
    Ewwww!!!!! I never heard that one before. I probably could not refrain from burger-gagging if I had! Although, from the pic I saw of @Mybabiesmomma's loin chops, I bet that store unintentionally has worm filler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    My brother-in-law is a dairy farmer. They do not drink unpasteurized milk due to the dangers associated with it. They buy milk in a grocery store.
    When I was growing up, I had a friend who lived on a farm and they had a milk cow. That was some of the best damn milk I've ver had in my life, and the butter was DEVINE! However, I do understand the dangers of unpasteurized milk, and you sharing with me what your brother does makes me more confident in buying organic milk from my grocery store. Does your brother buy organic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akelda View Post
    I'm considering getting a couple chickens and maybe a cow,..just have to find out if I have the room and the permission from the county,....that's how it is here in GA if I want to keep from pissing off my neighbors. lol
    I want to do the same thing! Chickens I can have, just need to get a coop built. I can't have a cow where I live. :( My uncles raise cows for beef, but they have no milk cows. The beef we get is super yummy though. :)

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    They buy the brand they sell their milk to... which is also what brand I buy. I doubt their little grocery store even has an organic section for anything. I do know they have a huge "organic" garden... fertilized by the plentiful cow shit. You don't want to be in their house when they are baking the cow shit.
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    Just a funny video on the topic... hardly scientific. 71% percent preferred the non-organic. The "motherfucking banana" trick is hilarious. Organic for chemical reasons is laudable but the taste theory doesn't always pan out.

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    It Came From the Media: What Prompted the Ruckus About “Pink Slime”? And Is It Unhealthy?
    By Deborah Blum, Pulitzer-prize winning science writer and professor of journalism at the University of Wisconsin-Madison
    What I’ve been trying to figure out, since the processed beef “pink slime” story broke this month is this: Are we just reacting to what Benjamin Radford at Discovery News calls ”the ick factor”? Or does pink slime (which the industry understandably prefers to call “lean finely textured beef“) actually pose a health risk? And does anything in the flurry of recent coverage help us sort that out?

    It’s worth looking at the coverage that began in early March with a story in The Daily by David Knowles and an ABC News segment by Jim Avila.
    [...]

    Let’s stipulate that some of this response derives from the very term “pink slime,” which tends to stimulate the “ugh” response. “Pink”—not so bad. But “slime”? Have you ever heard anyone use that word in a positive, how-attractive-your-slime-covered-dinner-is kind of way?
    [...]

    So what is pink slime, or, um, finely textured beef?

    It comes from a rather commercially clever use of scraps—fat and meat removed from standard meat cuts. These remnants are spun through a centrifuge to separate the beef bits from the fat. The rather soupy meat mixture is then squeezed through a thin tube and exposed to a puff of ammonia gas. The gas reacts with water in the meat to form a trace amount of ammonium hydroxide. This reduces acidity and kills (fairly reliably) any pathogenic bacteria lurking in the beef.
    [...]

    But are there any actual health problems associated with slime?

    This got a much tougher look a couple of years ago when Michael Moss at the New York Times did some terrific work looking at the risks—both chemical and bacterial—associated with the product, noting particularly that the vaunted ammonia treatment didn’t always kill pathogenic bacteria.

    The paper’s strongest coverage this round comes from KJ Dell’Antonia, who writes the Motherlode blog. Dell’Antonia is consistently (my opinion) one of the best science science writers at the Times today. Her post deftly summarizes the major issues and addresses directly the unpleasant covert aspects of our government’s behavior: “Someone, somewhere, thought we wouldn’t buy a product labeled ‘ground beef—with added trimmings, connective tissue and ammonia.”

    She also notes that that the ammonia, put in context with our other chemical exposures, doesn’t seem especially worrisome. And I tend to agree there too. What’s more interesting to me—and what hasn’t been covered especially well in the slime stories—is that foods that are ammonia-processed are remarkably widespread. Among them are breads, pastries, cheeses, chocolates, breakfast cereals, sports drinks, fruits, vegetables….in other words, if we’re going to worry about chemical processing, beef products need to stand in line.

    Another smart piece from Amy Hubbard at the Los Angeles Times notes that even the consumer-advocacy group Center for Science in the Public Interest isn’t particularly alarmed about pink slime, noting rather depressingly that a lot worse things go into the daily diet. The center does plan to investigate whether the super-processed beef bits are less nutritious than regular beef.

    As the Houston Chronicle points out in a recent editorial, the real issue here is transparency. Our government should not be colluding with private industry in hiding additives from the consumer. And, in fact, there are signs that the USDA is tending to agree. In an interview with Food Safety News, the agency’s food safety head, Elizabeth Hagen, emphasized that the product is considered safe and added: “It seems to me that the larger issue here is labeling and transparency.”

    But one more point, just to complicate the story. You’ll recall I mentioned that the USDA has agreed to allow schools to choose slime-improved beef or to reject it. But it turns out that the regular, unprocessed ground beef alternative, lacking that super-lean filler, has a higher fat content. Another health story, anyone?
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cr...-it-unhealthy/

    The article has links for the references. Some good reads.

    I am a victim of the "ick factor" but otherwise would eat a pink slime laced burger before I would eat a hot dog. Although that's not saying much...


    And now that I think about it... gelatin is made made from ickier things and in all kinds of stuff (not just Jello):
    extracted from the skin, boiled crushed bones, connective tissues, organs and some intestines of animals such as domesticated cattle, chicken, and pigs.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin
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    There is so much "ick" in our food nowadays, probably been for some time actually, that when I buy red meat and chicken I pay a bit more at the farmer's market market down the road, local fair by people who are very serious about organic and ick free foods.

    Still, it's hard no matter what measures you take. And so true about vegetables being just as ick. Always stuff on the news about produce having something wrong, prewashed salads was recent and if you read on food borne illnesses, omg, it will scare you make you question EVERYTHING you put in your mouth.

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