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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Seems the son race baiting O'bummer never had, did attack Zimmerman, any non race-baiter can understand why the police believed his version of events, and didn't arrest him that evening
    The more comes out about that night the more it seems this would never have become a national dividing event, had not O'bummer and the other race-baiters gotten involved. Just like the policeman and black professor, race baiting O'bummer again takes sides Dam, the facts they just get in the way of dividing a nation
    If I see that 12 year old picture of Trayvon or that photo shopped one with the hoodie one more time I think I'll throw up
    Every newshole that post that picture should automatically be fired
    This is political, O'bummer is using it to guarantee himself the black vote and to pass massive restrictive gun laws O'bummer favors
    O'bummer and Fast & Furious Holder feel only criminals and Cartels should have weapons


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimm...2#.T7O9iM0wTbk

    Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

    ABC News reports the medical records were part of evidence released on Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. He has entered a plea of not guilty and claims self-defense in the Feb. 26 shooting.
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    According to an autopsy report, the only other injury Martin had aside from the fatal gunshot wound was broken skin on his knuckles.
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    The FBI was not able to determine whether it was Zimmerman or Martin who could be heard crying out for help in 911 calls.

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    I really doubt that Zimmerman confronted the 6ft 3inch 175lb adult that pounded his head into the pavement
    this witch hunt is only because of the O'bummer involvement
    Now seems the state case is Trayvon had a right to pound Zimmerman because Zimmerman didn't have a right to stalk him
    and fast & Furious Eric Holder is looking into this as a civil rights matter, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!


    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...uries-h/nN6gs/
    Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles
    SANFORD, Fla. — WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    We knew this a week into it. The news now is just bringing it to the surface. I heard it this am on the radio, "reports surfacing that Zimmerman had injuries." Der, that has been fact for a long time. They painted it just how they wanted people to perceive it. And it worked.

    That is probably the reason they released him in the first place, before public opinion got too many legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    We knew this a week into it. The news now is just bringing it to the surface. I heard it this am on the radio, "reports surfacing that Zimmerman had injuries." Der, that has been fact for a long time. They painted it just how they wanted people to perceive it. And it worked.

    That is probably the reason they released him in the first place, before public opinion got too many legs.
    We knew it but nothing official. The release of court records should clear it for those on the fence. Also up until now, the only injury reported on Trayvon was the bullet hole.
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    Self-defense...case closed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Bondurant View Post
    Self-defense...case closed...
    Right now, I'm actually inclined to agree with Pete, if what's come out lately is true, both about Zimmerman's injuries and the trace ofTHC that was found in Trayvon Martin's system. As usually happens 9 out of 10 times, the mouths jumped the gun and came barreling down to Florida trying to stir crap up. And they did.

    I know I've done a complete turn-around on this one. If Martin was as big as I've read he was, Zimmerman was in a confrontation with a 17 year old who was the size of a very large adult male, if all accounts are true about his description. It could possibly be the shortest trial in history, if it evens makes it to trial. I'm thinking that when it's all said and done, though, there WILL be a trial b/c with all the unrest and so forth caused by this tragedy, the state is going to attempt to placate the protesters and the Martin family now. There were only two people who knew what happened that night, and one of them died.

    I just hope that the state doesn't buckle under the pressure and "Nifong" this guy and put him through hell before it's found that there was some misconduct or something in the state's plan to try and pacify everyone involved. Well, I've always been told that: You can believe some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot realistically expect everyone is going to play by the so-called "rules."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Bondurant View Post
    Self-defense...case closed...
    So O'bummer and Eric Holder have turned this into a racial vote getting nation dividing issue, what's that tell you about those losers
    They've known the truth since the beginning, they should be charged with abuse of the citizens of the United States of America
    Said all along this reminded me of the Duke lacrosse rape injustice/ frame-up
    and not ONE race-baiter apologized afterward, they just turned up again in Florida, this time with the support of O'bummer and Holder

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnes...2#.T7ZPps0wRKM

    Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting
    The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches.



    And of course this loser so called reporter is still using Trayvon's 12 year old picture in his drug article, disgusting
    This has been used by racist race-baiters from the beginning to divide the nation

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...t-mortem-drugs
    Florida teenager, who was shot dead by a neighbourhood watch leader, found to have traces of marijuana in blood and urine
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    http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justic...ing/index.html
    It also raised questions about gun laws,



    This is why O'bummer and his hit man Eric Holder have made this case a national issue
    O'bummer the constitution trampling elected official, wants to take away all guns from the citizens of this before O'bummer great nation
    What he's done is cause frightened citizens who would never have thought of buying a gun, into immediately purchasing a selfdefense weapon.
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    Gun manufacturers would likely not be the first to come to mind when considering industries who have benefited the most during President Obama’s first term, but a study from Ammo.net finds that firearm sales and concealed handgun permit applications are at all-time highs since the 2008 election.

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    Release Mr. Zimmerman....immediately.
    Yet know, my master, God omnipotent,
    Is mustering in his clouds on our behalf
    Armies of pestilence; and they shall strike
    Your children yet unborn and unbegot,
    That lift your vassal hands against my head
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    What? No one wants to post this?


    Looks like people still don't want to talk about the the evidence AGAINST Trayvon. This thread spent 14 pages trying to indict Zimmerman on the ghostiest of speculation and when the truth comes out it is a ghost town.
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    It was not a race/hate crime. This man was beaten, and badly by some punk in the dark wearing a hoodie. Mr. Zimmerman defended himself. The press needs to stop painting a picture of some good kind kid. That is not what happened. Stop fueling the race wars still going on. All it does is enable bad behaviors and stir more violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    What? No one wants to post this?


    Looks like people still don't want to talk about the the evidence AGAINST Trayvon. This thread spent 14 pages trying to indict Zimmerman on the ghostiest of speculation and when the truth comes out it is a ghost town.
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    Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin
    SANFORD -- As thousands of people gathered here to demand an arrest in the Trayvon Martin case, a more complicated portrait began to emerge of a teenager whose problems at school ranged from getting spotted defacing lockers to getting caught with a marijuana baggie and women’s jewelry.

    The Miami Gardens teen who has become a national symbol of racial injustice was suspended three times, and had a spotty school record that his family’s attorneys say is irrelevant to the facts that led up to his being gunned down on Feb. 26.

    In October, a school police investigator said he saw Trayvon on the school surveillance camera in an unauthorized area “hiding and being suspicious.” Then he said he saw Trayvon mark up a door with “W.T.F” — an acronym for “what the f---.” The officer said he found Trayvon the next day and went through his book bag in search of the graffiti marker.

    Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a “burglary tool,” according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald. Word of the incident came as the family’s lawyer acknowledged that the boy was suspended in February for getting caught with an empty bag with traces of marijuana, which he called “irrelevant” and an attempt to demonize a victim.

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.

    Trayvon was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to the report. School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.

    A lawyer for the dead teen’s family acknowledged Trayvon had been suspended for graffiti, but said the family knew nothing about the jewelry and the screwdriver.

    “It’s completely irrelevant to what happened Feb. 26,” said attorney Benjamin Crump. “They never heard this, and don’t believe it’s true. If it were true, why wouldn’t they call the parents? Why wasn’t he arrested?”

    Trayvon, who was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School, had never been arrested, police and the family have said.

    “We think everybody is trying to demonize him,” Crump said.

    No evidence ever surfaced that the jewelry was stolen.

    “Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by schools police.

    That suspension was followed four months later by another one in February, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”

    The punishment was the third for the teen. On Monday, the family also said Trayvon had earlier been suspended for tardiness and truancy.

    Trayvon was shot to death Feb. 26 while serving out his suspension in Sanford, where his father’s girlfriend lives. A neighborhood watch volunteer called the police to say he saw someone in a hoodie who looked high on drugs, and was suspicious because he walked too slowly in the rain. The unarmed teenager carried Skittles and iced tea, and was talking to his girlfriend on the phone, records show.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...#storylink=cpy
    Make sure you read both pages of the story. I did not post them all.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html

    The media needs to stop painting a picture of a "good" angel faced kid. Because of the media a man who is an upstanding citizen in his community is being "Joan of Arced". Lets not let a man defending his property, and his community, be hung out to dry due to media and racial bias. Zimmerman was beaten, and beaten badly by this punk kid who more than likely was looking to steal more stuff. This has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with race. Our media, and our government need to stop feeding the frenzy before more people get hurt.

    This is what should be seen


    This is what the media bias wants you to see
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlilly1981 View Post
    Make sure you read both pages of the story. I did not post them all.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html

    The media needs to stop painting a picture of a "good" angel faced kid. Because of the media a man who is an upstanding citizen in his community is being "Joan of Arced". Lets not let a man defending his property, and his community, be hung out to dry due to media and racial bias. Zimmerman was beaten, and beaten badly by this punk kid who more than likely was looking to steal more stuff. This has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with race. Our media, and our government need to stop feeding the frenzy before more people get hurt.

    This is what should be seen


    This is what the media bias wants you to see
    That picture again AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


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    The son O'bummer never had, just keeps getting better,
    Zimmerman should be allowed to sue this criminals parents, his lawyer and every race-baiter out there including O'bummer
    and every reporter that used that phony picture

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html
    Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a “burglary tool,” according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald. Word of the incident came as the family’s lawyer acknowledged that the boy was suspended in February for getting caught with an empty bag with traces of marijuana, which he called “irrelevant” and an attempt to demonize a victim.

    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.

    Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

    “Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    http://www.whysanity.net/monos/fewgood.html
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    Seems some just can't handle it

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    The screwdriver and jewelry are old news posted by Malq in post#210 in this thread.
    http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...l=1#post608611
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMorningStar View Post
    The screwdriver and jewelry are old news posted by Malq in post#210 in this thread.
    http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...l=1#post608611
    That's exactly what I am talking about. Every time I see an update to this thread it's the same
    Blah...Blah....Blah....Blah....Blah...O'Bummer.... ..Blah....Blah....@biteme.....Blah.... Zimmer innocent....Blah....Blah..... O'Bummer.....Blah.....Blah.....trevyon is a hoodlum......Blah....Blah....Blah



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    Quote Originally Posted by gee View Post
    That's exactly what I am talking about. Every time I see an update to this thread it's the same
    Blah...Blah....Blah....Blah....Blah...O'Bummer.... ..Blah....Blah....@biteme.....Blah.... Zimmer innocent....Blah....Blah..... O'Bummer.....Blah.....Blah.....trevyon is a hoodlum......Blah....Blah....Blah



    LMAO
    Maybe it's a comprehension issue, read slower

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    I want to point out that Trayvon's family hasn't declared anything about him being innocent and hasn't even tried to assert Trayvon didn't throw punches at Zimmerman. You will note at the time of Zimmerman's arrest, the family put out a statement. The focus is the stand your ground law and changing it That Zimmerman can not be the aggressor, lose the fight, kill someone and then assert a stand your ground defense. I very much suspect the family knew about this evidence (knuckles and bleeding heads) before the actual arrest and their statement, which in no way reflected what the majority of their sympathizers were saying on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMorningStar View Post
    The screwdriver and jewelry are old news posted by Malq in post#210 in this thread.
    http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/s...l=1#post608611
    True, but it was so long ago, bet most didn't remember
    Sure seems the powers to be don't give it any weight, they clam he traded in his screwdriver for skittles
    and 17 year old body for a little 12 year old smilie face

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    Quote Originally Posted by malq View Post
    What? No one wants to post this?


    Looks like people still don't want to talk about the the evidence AGAINST Trayvon. This thread spent 14 pages trying to indict Zimmerman on the ghostiest of speculation and when the truth comes out it is a ghost town.
    I dont want to get sucked back into this thread,
    have to many things I have to do
    But that said..
    after all this stuff coming out and in pics, I am a big enough person to admit I saw it through rose coloured glasses that the media was trying to portray at the time
    I have seen pics,read reports including damage to Trayvons knuckles consistent to the damage to Zimmermans face
    I really defended Trayvon at first b/c I didnt have the whole story
    New autopsy reports he had drugs in his system,knuckles were buffed up
    and many many other things
    I admitted in Tori Staffird thread I was wrong and pinned her mom from beginning and hoped that had taught me to wait and see what happens
    I guess it didnt ,hopefully this time I will learn and wait for ALL the facts b/c I do now see this as him defending himself,,JMHO

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    I'm not ready to say all that just yet Whisp.
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    I dont think a gun was needed though
    A good couple shots to the face and a few body slams yeah but I think the gun was over the top and I can see charges for that
    Im not saying he had the right to kill him
    I am saying if the evidence coming out is true then he had a right to fight back but I dont agree with the gun aspect of it

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    None of this changes my mind. If I am walking down a street minding my own damn business and some car starts following me, damn straight will I start to get a little nervous. When someone gets out of said car I will get even more nervous....if the person even comes close to me you can damn well bet I am throwing the first punches before some crazy person tries to rape/kidnap/harm me in any way. I am going to fight with everything I have in me because I have no clue what this person is attempting to do by following me, stopping, then getting out of his car.

    The thing is, because Trayvon Martin did the same thing and won the fight, but because he happened to be bigger and win the fight he deserved to die? I never claimed he was an angel, hell I knew better, but he still didn't deserve to die when he had done nothing wrong but defend himself. George Zimmerman should have never exited his car, he should have followed the instructions from the 911 operator when he was told he didn't need to follow Martin, THAT is what this all boils down to for me. If Zimmerman would have stayed in his car he would have never got his ass beat for looking like a creeper, following Martin around. I don't blame Martin for beating his ass, I would have done the same thing in the same circumstances.

    Martin did what he did because he felt threatened by a grown ass man following him around in his car for no reason whatsoever. How the hell did he know about the break-ins in the area? He didn't because he wasn't the one doing the break-ins. Put yourself in his shoes for a minute. He was probably creeped the fuck out, he told the girl he was talking to on the phone that Zimmerman was following him and it creeped him out enough that he pulled his hoodie up over his head. So when Zimmerman first saw him he didn't even have the hoodie covering his head. Like someone else said, Martin died because he won the fight against Zimmerman, a fight that should have and never would have started if Zimmerman knew how to follow directions in the first place.
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    Just to be clear the drugs in his system was Marijuana( Big Deal). We still don't know who threw the first punch.
    Martin is not here to testify on his own behalf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aena View Post
    None of this changes my mind. If I am walking down a street minding my own damn business and some car starts following me, damn straight will I start to get a little nervous. When someone gets out of said car I will get even more nervous....if the person even comes close to me you can damn well bet I am throwing the first punches before some crazy person tries to rape/kidnap/harm me in any way. I am going to fight with everything I have in me because I have no clue what this person is attempting to do by following me, stopping, then getting out of his car.

    The thing is, because Trayvon Martin did the same thing and won the fight, but because he happened to be bigger and win the fight he deserved to die? I never claimed he was an angel, hell I knew better, but he still didn't deserve to die when he had done nothing wrong but defend himself. George Zimmerman should have never exited his car, he should have followed the instructions from the 911 operator when he was told he didn't need to follow Martin, THAT is what this all boils down to for me. If Zimmerman would have stayed in his car he would have never got his ass beat for looking like a creeper, following Martin around. I don't blame Martin for beating his ass, I would have done the same thing in the same circumstances.

    Martin did what he did because he felt threatened by a grown ass man following him around in his car for no reason whatsoever. How the hell did he know about the break-ins in the area? He didn't because he wasn't the one doing the break-ins. Put yourself in his shoes for a minute. He was probably creeped the fuck out, he told the girl he was talking to on the phone that Zimmerman was following him and it creeped him out enough that he pulled his hoodie up over his head. So when Zimmerman first saw him he didn't even have the hoodie covering his head. Like someone else said, Martin died because he won the fight against Zimmerman, a fight that should have and never would have started if Zimmerman knew how to follow directions in the first place.
    Zimmerman says he was walking back to his car when Trayvon confronted him
    Seems like Trayvon wasn't so scared or innocent and ambushed Zimmerman
    So far seems Zimmerman has been truthful, all the misleading information has come from the Trayvon side, so for now I'll believe the Zimmerman version
    I doubt Trayvon was the least bit worried about this little guy lurking around
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    We still dont know what happened and maybe never will
    but I have enough in my own life going on ,then to lose sleep over some people I dont even know and have only read about in papers and blogs
    I cant change what happened and nobody can all we can do is sit back and let the court process take its sweet time b/c nothing I say or do will change anything

    But this is what I do know that I believe
    He shouldnt have been following him especially after being told not to
    I dont know who threw first punch and you can bet Zimmerman wouldnt tell the truth if he had at this point
    I am not defending him I am saying shits coming out that is changing things little by little
    And yeah it was only pot but the States makes a big deal over pot( which we Canadians will never understand)
    So they will say "drugs" and let people think its meth or crack or something
    I am not going to defend him having a gun and using it like he did
    But also I wont defend Trayvon completely either b/c I dont know what was said or who threw first punch or if he had brass knuckles whatever,, I dont care really
    My point is things are changing and will continue to change as more comes out and I suspect more will be fired over the media editing the phone call to 911 in the beginning also
    Now I have to get to hosp so thats it for me

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