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    Manhunt On For Suspect In Child's Death,Juan Garcia ,Mom Wendy Pagas In Jail Already

    Juan Garcia
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    PHOENIX -- An 18-year-old Phoenix woman is behind bars in the death of her 2-year-old son while police are on the hunt for her boyfriend.

    According to police, Wendy Rogel-Pagas dialed 911 Friday night because her son was not breathing. When fire crews arrived at the home near 39th Avenue and Encanto Boulevard, the child was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Police said 2-year-old Jorge I. Zamora-Rogel had evidence of trauma to his head and body.

    "This is just an absolutely horrific crime," said Phoenix police Sgt. Trent Crump. "This is beating a 2-year-old to death."

    Police are searching for Juan Garcia, 18, in connection with the child's murder.

    Crump said Garcia "picked him up by his throat, literally, and began smashing his head against a bedroom wall."

    Police said Garcia left the home then came back and continued beating the boy.

    The boy's mother has been arrested on child abuse charges. Crump said she watched the beating occur but did not seek help or medical attention until it was too late.

    Garcia is described as Hispanic, 5 feet 8 inches tall and 170 pounds. He is possibly driving a 2005 gray Nissan Altima with Arizona plate ANJ3755.
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    Crump said Garcia "picked him up by his throat, literally, and began smashing his head against a bedroom wall."

    Police said Garcia left the home then came back and continued beating the boy.

    The boy's mother has been arrested on child abuse charges. Crump said she watched the beating occur but did not seek help or medical attention until it was too late.
    Uh-huh. Another useless f**k of a mother. She called 911 only when it was too late, but passed up a golden opportunity to save her child.

    I don't care how pretty you are, bitch-girl, you didn't deserve your beautiful child and you don't deserve any leniency. 18 -- ready to spend your youth in prison? Get out when you are old and uninteresting?
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    Oh what a beautiful little boy! Oh man I wanna just pick this bitch up by her throat and bang her head against a fucking wall. Ugh worthless bitch! She didn't deserve this beautiful child and I hope they keep her in jail long enough for her ovaries to dry up.

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    Who the fck does this shit???? and how could any "mother" watch this.... i swear if my "man" ever touched my kids with an ounce of evil like this i would transform into the biggest nightmare he has ever imagined... alot of people feel sorry for the women b/c they were being beat too... I don't that means you get your kids the fck out.. and to read that the bastard left and then came back to finish the job... omg! makes my blood boil... he could come back but I promise when i called 911 it wouldn't be for my kid.

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    Fucking asshole worthless piece of crap

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ers-death.html
    "He killed a child with his bare hands," Crump said. "We're going to find him. And anybody who gets in the way of that is going to go to jail as well."

    Police say Garcia moved in with the boy's mother, Wendy Rogel-Pagasa, 18, just days before the child was killed.

    According to court records, Garcia lifted Jorge Zamora-Rogel up by his throat Friday and slammed his head into a bedroom wall. When Rogel-Pagasa begged Garcia to stop, records say, he whipped her with an electrical cord, then continued to beat the child's head against the floor.

    Garcia left the home for about 1 and a half hours, police say, and Rogel-Pagasa watched as her unconscious son convulsed on the floor. She tried unsuccessfully to rouse him, but did not call for help, Crump said.

    It wasn't until Jorge stopped breathing that Rogel-Pagasa called 911 -- more than three hours after the initial beating, Crump said. By then, Garcia had fled. Phoenix fire paramedics pronounced the child dead at the scene.

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    Does anyone else recognize their state by the background graphics on the news station still? I saw hispanic names & the background & thought, "That's here!!" SIGH.

    I need to study psychology or sociology or something. WHAT is it that makes one young mother defend her child & another let them die? What is the deciding factor?
    I remember I was 23 & I FLIPPED OUT because my ex didn't have a/c in his car for our 1 yr old when it was 115 out. Which I may have overdone honestly. I can remember being livid over the heat.
    I get history of abuse & yada yada....but some people are strong enough to break the cycle. Why?

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    Anyone with knowledge of Garcia's whereabouts is asked to call 602-262-6141

    Records: Phoenix man beat child to death because tot wouldn't eat

    A man is suspected of beating to death a 2-year-old child in Phoenix after he became angry that the child wouldn't eat the food the man brought home for dinner, according to court documents released Monday.

    Police were searching for Juan Garcia, 18, who was living with Wendy Rogel-Pagasa, 18, and her 2-year-old son Jorge Zamora-Rogel at a home in the 2500 block of North 38th Lane in Phoenix. Police arrested Rogel-Pagasa on suspicion of waiting about three hours before calling 911 to help her dying child, according to court documents.

    On Friday, Garcia came home about 7:30 p.m. with dinner, according to court documents. Rogel-Pagasa told Garcia that the child would not eat the food.


    Garcia got angry and went to the child, grabbed him by the ear and pulled him out of his bedroom, according to court documents.

    The child began to cry. Police suspect this made Garcia more angry, causing him to yell at the child and pick him up by the throat, according to court documents.

    Garcia was suspected of hitting the child's head several times against the wall and the ground knocking Jorge unconscious, according to court documents.

    Rogel-Pagasa tried to stop Garcia, who was suspected of beating and choking her, according to court documents.

    Garcia left the residence for an hour and a half. Rogel-Pagasa didn't call the authorities for help while the child was bleeding and struggling to breath, according to court documents.

    When Garcia returned, he tried to revive the child, according to court documents. About 10:45 p.m., Rogel-Pagasa called 911. Units responded within minutes. Jorge was pronounced dead at 11 p.m. at the scene.

    Court documents didn't reveal why Rogel-Pagasa waited about three hours before calling for help.

    Garcia is described as 5 feet 8 inches tall, 170 pounds. He was possibly driving a gray 2005 Nissan Altima with Arizona License plate ANJ3755.
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    My son wouldn't eat his dinner last night. It's not the first, either. Shockingly, he's still alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundratot View Post
    My son wouldn't eat his dinner last night. It's not the first, either. Shockingly, he's still alive.
    cant even begin to count how many times one of mine didnt want to eat dinner and they are still alive
    some nights Im not hungry for dinner

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    Man who 'beat two-year-old boy to death' for not eating his dinner turns himself in Juan Garcia, 18, led police on a near three-month manhunt after allegedly killing girlfriend's son
    Teenage mother charged with failing to protect


    A man accused of beating his girlfriend's 2-year-old boy to death because he wouldn't eat his dinner has turned himself in, police announced Friday.

    Juan Garcia, 18, led Arizona police on a near three-month manhunt after fleeing his girlfriend's Phoenix home where the boy, Jorge Zamora-Rogel, was pronounced dead after found thoroughly beaten.

    Garcia is being held at the Pima County Detention Center after turning himself near Lukeville border in southern Arizona.
    He will be charged with first-degree murder, child abuse, aggravated assault and misdemeanor assault once expedited to Phoenix, Phoenix police spokesman Sgt Trent Crump told AZ Central.
    Garcia had moved in to the home of the child's mother, Wendy Rogel-Pagasa, 18, only days before he killing her son, Jorge, in a fit of rage on February 24, police said.

    According to court documents, Garcia became increasingly angry when the toddler would not eat the food he had brought home.
    Garcia gripped the boy by the ear and pulled him out of his bedroom.


    When the child started to cry, Garcia became more infuriated and grabbed him by the throat, repeatedly slamming his head against the wall and knocking him unconscious.
    When Rogel-Pagasa begged Garcia to stop, he whipped her with an electrical cord and attempted to choke her.
    After the attack, Garcia left the home for about one-and-a-half hours and Rogel-Pagasa watched as her bleeding, unconscious son convulsed on the floor.

    She tried unsuccessfully to revive him, but did not call for help, according to police.
    When Garcia returned, he tried to rouse the child by hitting him more, lifting him up by his ankle, bending his fingers back, and slapping him in the face.
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    So to rouse him, this fucktard thought abusing him more was the way to go? Unbelievable. On my table right now is an uneaten slice of pizza and fries from In N Out Burger, according to this meatheads logic I guess my kid should be beaten to death for not eating it?
    Theres plenty of grey cement walls where this stupid useless bitch vagina and her penis plug are going. I hope someone helps them become acquainted with each and everyone of them.
    So what he beat her ass with a electrical cord. I know that shit hurt but she wasn't dead. She could have gotten her ćhild help but she chose not too. The only thing that should have stopped her was if all ten fingers and toes were broken. And even then she could have used her tongue or her nose to dial 911 or just press 0 til you get the operator and alert them that she needed help!
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    There are no words to tell you just how disgusted I am, my utter disbelief how a grown man can beat a baby to death--- how a woman, mother to the child, see her baby beat, see her baby convulse as he dies, and does NOTHING.
    People like this don't deserve to breath air. Not a one. I have no faith in redemption at this point, call me what you will. Dark, deep hole, throw them in. Forgotten.



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    Garcia gripped the boy by the ear and pulled him out of his bedroom.

    When the child started to cry, Garcia became more infuriated and grabbed him by the throat, repeatedly slamming his head against the wall and knocking him unconscious.
    When Rogel-Pagasa begged Garcia to stop, he whipped her with an electrical cord and attempted to choke her.
    After the attack, Garcia left the home for about one-and-a-half hours and Rogel-Pagasa watched as her bleeding, unconscious son convulsed on the floor.

    She tried unsuccessfully to revive him, but did not call for help, according to police.
    When Garcia returned, he tried to rouse the child by hitting him more, lifting him up by his ankle, bending his fingers back, and slapping him in the face.
    This is utterly enraging. Why do these fucks think that burning, dousing, slapping, punching, etc. will revive an unconscious child? It's really just venting more rage upon a defenseless, supine body. Why not go hit some steak or a car or something? And her? She had hours to get out of the place, run for help, call someone. But no, she's just going to stay there and do something useless with her complete lack of medical training or common sense to save her son?

    Urrgh!
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    I know these people are too dumb to understand this, but....

    If you hit a child for not eating, you are instilling a fear of food or eating disorders in that child. Attach anything negative to a basic human need - ESPECIALLY during development and you will destroy something within that human/child/etc.

    It's obvious this guy is a deranged psychpath & she is far too scared of life to be a parent, but...wow. I am a parent, I have no training of medical or psychological persuasion and it's not too difficult to figure out that you just don't hurt to teach.

    Why do these fucks think that burning, dousing, slapping, punching, etc. will revive an unconscious child? It's really just venting more rage upon a defenseless, supine body.
    There are no logical thoughts when this occurs - just blind anger/desperation. But if you're a parent meant to protect & that's how you respond....it's probably not a good idea for you to become a parent again.

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