#Occupy Discussions

[Obsolete]

Isn't Oregon pretty much all hippies?

Not all, just more than most states.

Help for those who actually need and deserve it is part of the American fabric. Those who can and won't work shouldn't eat!

That's probably the most intelligent comment I've seen from you. Where was that sentiment when we were discussing welfare on the other thread (can't remember which thread that was at the moment)?

[TheMorningStar]

LOL! Did you miss the "work hard" part?

You say that like women aren't? Women are the most materialistic creatures on earth!

What's wrong with aspiring to do well through hard work and buy yourself toys?

Don't put words in my mouth. Where did I say working hard is bad? Show me.

The quote didn't mention women but I would say the same thing applies to females. Your quote was "A real man sees my car, and to work hard so he can buy it one day." This is about as sad a statement as I have ever read. This quote came from someone who has been brainwashed so deeply into the "buy stuff and impress the neighbors" mentality that he isn't even aware of it. This is solipistic thinking, something you appear to be very familiar with.

Look, if I wanted a Benz, I could write a check for a new one and not even feel it. I got that money by earning it.

Not all of us are out to impress others with our possessions.

With that in mind, how much stuff is enough? If one were to say that there is never enough, it makes me wonder what kind of hole in their life they are trying to fill and it makes me sad that they will never fill it with possessions . They are not aware that there are other ways to fill whatever void they have.

[Sammy]

A pictorial of occupy Oakland.

One tree had basically become an outside communal toilet, so the more environmental-minded Occupiers put up signs trying to discourage doing one's business au naturel.

They reject the existence of the current police force, only to find it necessary to found a new substitute police force of their own, which were it to mature would eventually become an institution probably not much different from the original Oakland Police Force they so reviled. Here, for example, is the first incarnation of a "police station" in the emerging Occupy culture.

Around and around the cycle goes.

Remember Lovelle Mixon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelle...he_perpetrator the serial rapist, child molester and murderer who single-handedly committed one of the worst mass killings of police officers in American history? Yeah, that guy. Well, the anti-police sentiment at Occupy Oakland is so intense that they regard Lovelle Mixon as a hero!! Whatever other crimes he may have committed, if he offed some pigs, then all is forgiven. Fuck the Po-lice! Power to the people!

http://zombietime.com/occupy_oakland_10-22-2011/

Many more at link

[Sammy]

That's probably the most intelligent comment I've seen from you.

Oh, stop it you big suck up.

[Obsolete]

Oh, stop it you big suck up.

Don't flatter yourself, I still think you're a bitch :)

[Sammy]

Don't flatter yourself, I still think you're a bitch :)

LOL! Like I give a tiny, little, bald, baby rats ass?

[Sammy]

Don't put words in my mouth. Where did I say working hard is bad? Show me.

The quote didn't mention women but I would say the same thing applies to females. Your quote was "A real man sees my car, and to work hard so he can buy it one day." This is about as sad a statement as I have ever read. This quote came from someone who has been brainwashed so deeply into the "buy stuff and impress the neighbors" mentality that he isn't even aware of it. This is solipistic thinking, something you appear to be very familiar with.

Look, if I wanted a Benz, I could write a check for a new one and not even feel it. I got that money by earning it.

Not all of us are out to impress others with our possessions.

With that in mind, how much stuff is enough? If one were to say that there is never enough, it makes me wonder what kind of hole in their life they are trying to fill and it makes me sad that they will never fill it with possessions . They are not aware that there are other ways to fill whatever void they have.

Show me where I put words in you mouth.

What business is it of yours what other people do with the money they earned.

Not all of us are out to impress others with our possessions.

Really? Then why did you make this statement?

Look, if I wanted a Benz, I could write a check for a new one and not even feel it. I got that money by earning it.

The analogy of the original quote

“A protester sees my Benz, and wants to rip me out of it.

A real man sees my car, and to work hard so he can buy it one day.”

Some people want to take what belongs to others and then there are those who are willing to work and earn their own, be it a Benz or a Ford Focus.

[Silvahalo]

When I was in college, the street directly across the area called the "drag", is a hangout for the homeless---sometimes referred to as "drag worms". Mostly consisted of wannabe homeless, young adults who gave the parents the finger as they did not want to work hard to earn anything in their cushy, pathetic lives.

How badly I wanted to kick an ass or two as they begged of me my hard earned money--me, literately a starving student, working student that did what was necessary to survive; worked two jobs, rode buses, walked my ass everywhere in the brutal heat, lived in a damn van at one point temporarily as I awaited housing orders.
Few things I hate more than uppity homeless types. Ass kicking is in order. This shit is entirely ironic.

[TheMorningStar]

Show me where I put words in you mouth.

Are you fucking blind or just wearing blinders?

LOL! Did you miss the "work hard" part?
What's wrong with aspiring to do well through hard work and buy yourself toys?

That is where you put words in my mouth.

What business is it of yours what other people do with the money they earned.

Privatized gains and socialized loses made it my business. If you work for a company that got a bailout it is my business. If you are underwater and getting bailed out by the public and are still driving your benz and living in your McMansoin waiting for foreclosure while not paying your mortgage or with your hand out for a loan modification it damn well is my business. When people do stupid things with their hard earned money and I have to bail them out it is my business. EDIT: As long as interest rates stay at or near 0% at the Fed window you better believe it is my business.

Really? Then why did you make this statement?

You don't know me but those who do have no idea how much money I have. I thought I would head you off at the pass before you started thinking I was bitter.

Some people want to take what belongs to others and then there are those who are willing to work and earn their own, be it a Benz or a Ford Focus.

Yes, its called theft and there are plenty of examples here on this site.
You forgot to mention the theft from the public coffers that the TBTF received.
EDIT: Every single bailout without exception is theft.

[Sammy]

Are you fucking blind or just wearing blinders?
That is where you put words in my mouth.

Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
LOL! Did you miss the "work hard" part?
What's wrong with aspiring to do well through hard work and buy yourself toys?

I did no such thing. I asked you a question.

Privatized gains and socialized loses made it my business. If you work for a company that got a bailout it is my business. If you are underwater and getting bailed out by the public and are still driving your benz and living in your McMansoin waiting for foreclosure while not paying your mortgage or with your hand out for a loan modification it damn well is my business. When people do stupid things with their hard earned money and I have to bail them out it is my business. EDIT: As long as interest rates stay at or near 0% at the Fed window you better believe it is my business.

All the blame for these thing can be laid at the feet of the gov and the crooks who are running it. Could not have happened without their full cooperation.

Yes, its called theft and there are plenty of examples here on this site.
You forgot to mention the theft from the public coffers that the TBTF received.

Please point out the examples here on this board, I'd be interested in seeing them.

EDIT: Every single bailout without exception is theft.

I'm in total agreement with you. The biggest monetary theft in the history of the world! Done with the full knowledge of DC, the thugs and criminals who run it.

NO such thing as TBTF.

[Sammy]

EDIT: Every single bailout without exception is theft.

May as well have held a gun to our heads, you betcha!

[Sammy]

When I was in college, the street directly across the area called the "drag", is a hangout for the homeless---sometimes referred to as "drag worms". Mostly consisted of wanabe homeless, young adults who gave the parents the finger as they did not want to work hard to earn anything in their cushy, pathetic lives.

How badly I wanted to kick an ass or two as they begged of me my hard earned money--me, literately a starving student, working student that did what was necessary to survive, working two jobs, taking buses, walking my ass everywhere in the brutal heat, living in a damn van at one point temporarily as I awaited housing orders.
Few things I hate more than uppity homeless types. Ass kicking is in order. This shit is entirely ironic.

Ironic and totally predictable.

[Pete Bondurant]

Occupy Russia!

[Sammy]

More cool pics from occupy Oakland!

The encampment has already fractured into a series of micro-neighborhoods, just like a real city. But at Occupy Oakland, where you are permitted to live is determined by your gender and/or racial or sexual identity. Here, for example, is a roped-off "gated community" reserved exclusively for female, gay and transgender residents.

And lest you might be so naive to think that these rules would only ever apply to the Occupy camp, and not to the city at large should the Occupiers ever take over, be aware that one of the Occupation's many demands is to "Stop White Gentrification in Oakland" -- which would mean the establishment of new laws preventing white people from moving into certain neighborhoods.

Yes, my friends, the Occupy movement has made segregation trendy again!

Finally, an idea I think everybody can agree on: Occupy Solyndra!

Probably not the white house, though!

To show how egalitarian and open-minded the whole Occupy Oakland movement is, they have workshops both in Marxism 101 and in anarchism. Being mutually exclusive philosophies doesn't matter -- as long as they're both devoted to destroying capitalism, we can work out the details later in a brutal post-revolution civil war. Sound familiar?

The main problem when communists and anarchists get together in the same revolution is that the communists are by nature so much more organized. As a result, they're usually more visible, and the reporters (at least the ones not trying to paper over the whole thing) assume that the communists are dominant. The same is true at Occupy Oakland -- the signage was about 50% communist/socialist, 25% anarchist/anti-authoritarian, and 25% incoherent/confused/personal. A casual observer would conclude that the protest was predominantly communist. But I suspect the anarchists and the crazies outnumber the actual communists, but they're just not as good at advertising themselves.

[biteme]

Doesn't seem this noisy minority fits in anywhere

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/...sters-at-park/


For years this plaza in the heart of Sacramento has been a homeless hide-away. But some just want the Occupy group to go away:

“I just wish they’d give us our park back,” one homeless woman says.

She’s one of dozens of homeless who’ve signed a petition:

Part of the problem, some homeless argue, they feel they’ve lost their freedom.


“They got their own security, they act like the police,” one man tells Lopez. “Anytime you do anything they say you can’t do this and that … and we’re saying ‘you’re not the police.’”

But the allegations of harassment go both ways.

[Sammy]

“They got their own security, they act like the police,” one man tells Lopez. “Anytime you do anything they say you can’t do this and that … and we’re saying ‘you’re not the police.’”

I thought they hated authority?

For sure they hate the real cops, maybe it's just the fake cops who they tolerate?

[biteme]

Who's the biggest loser protesters or reporter?

http://mrctv.org/videos/occupy-prote...ho-pooped-bank
A local reporter in Eureka, California has the unenviable task of trying to figure out who pooped on a local bank.

Via YouTube: "News Channel 3 Eureka CA reporter asking the Occupy protesters if they peed or pooped on the bank. All they can say is that the bank pees and poops on us all every day. She then walks through the camp and then gets assaulted by a camping occupy protester who doesn't want to occupy her time."

[Sammy]

Who's the biggest loser protesters or reporter?

http://mrctv.org/videos/occupy-prote...ho-pooped-bank
A local reporter in Eureka, California has the unenviable task of trying to figure out who pooped on a local bank.

Via YouTube: "News Channel 3 Eureka CA reporter asking the Occupy protesters if they peed or pooped on the bank. All they can say is that the bank pees and poops on us all every day. She then walks through the camp and then gets assaulted by a camping occupy protester who doesn't want to occupy her time."

When 'pee and poo' is the question, you know you're in for an intellectually stimulating discussion.

Reporter: You've gone too far.

liebrals ALWAYS go to far.

[Sammy]

One down...

Man Found Dead in Tent at Occupy Salt Lake Site
Associated Press
November 11, 2011


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Authorities say a man has been found dead inside his tent at a Salt Lake City park where protesters have been camping.

The Occupy Salt Lake group has been in Pioneer Park for weeks, protesting what they say is corporate greed in solidarity with the larger Occupy Wall Street protests in New York.

Salt Lake City police say the body of a man in his 40s was found in the tent Friday morning. They say he has been identified as a member of the Occupy group, but his name has not been released.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...salt-lake-site

[Pete Bondurant]

Occupy Greece!

[Valasca]

Salt Lake Police have ordered the closure of the 'Occupy Salt Lake' protest after the discovery of a dead body inside a tent at the protest campsite.

Police and fire authorities say the death may have been caused by drug related issues, carbon monoxide exposure from a heater inside the tent, or a combinatin of both.

Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank said the camp would be closed by Saturday evening due to health concerns. The decision sparked anger in the protesters.

"To expect everybody to pack up and leave by tomorrow is ludacris," Joseph Tucker, a protester, said. "People need time to figure out what they are going to do with their tents and where they are going to go."

A group of protesters joined together Friday night to chant against the evacuation order.

Burbank said officers would issue citations or arrest people who refuse to leave.

Campers from a similar protest group at the Gallivan Center would also be forced to leave, according to Burbank.

The man has been identified by protest organizers as a member of the group that is demonstrating against what they perceive as corporate and bank greed.

The group is a splinter of the national 'Occupy Wall Street' movement.

Police removed a tent heater and some drug syringes from the man's tent during their investigation.

The demonstrators have been camping at the site in Pioneer Park at 400 South and 400 West for the past month.

Similar protests have been held in other U.S. cities.

Later Friday afternoon, the city released a statement regarding the camp out protest, saying:

"Following the tragic death at the Occupy SLC encampment at Pioneer Park Thursday night, Salt Lake City will no longer beissuing overnight free-speech camping permits anywhere in the City.

Multiple City agencies have participated in creating ordinance exceptions to allow for Occupy SLC participants to carry out their protest since early October by way of camping on public property. It is nowclear that public health and safety are at risk, and the most appropriate course of action is to accommodate the Occupy SLC movement in ways that do not include overnight camping. Protest participants have been advised they may not sleep overnight at either encampment after [Friday] night.

While overnight camping permits will no longer be issued, the City will continue to work with protestors to ensure their free-speech rights are protected."

Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker agreed with the action, saying:

“The decision to stop issuing camping permits is in no way a call to impede the free speech rights of the Occupy SLC group. The Pioneer Park protest site has become a place where some members of our homeless population have settled rather than seek available shelter andneeded services. The unfortunate death that occurred Thursday night illustrates the necessity to prohibit overnight camping in the City.”

Several protestors disagreed with the city's actions, and indicated that they would risk arrest in order to continue their protest.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top...spx?hpt=ju_bn5

So now I gotta Occupy somewhere to find a dead body? Jeez.

[malq]

Looks like this invasion of fruit flies has run it's course. All across the nation, people are realizing the protesters must go. Now that they are settled, they are preparing for their arrests.

What do they think? the President will come and tell them, "Ok you can have it your way. Now will you please move so we can have the annual Christmas tree celebration?" No, they will be happy to be drug off so they can scream police brutality and have legendary protest stories. as if they actually accomplished anything. This protest was over weeks ago.

[Rockin Ma]

I saw a good sticker on FB... it was something along the lines of ... Occupy Wall Street by Doing your Christmas Shopping with Small Businesses or maybe it was Boycott Big Business by Doing your Christmas Shopping with Small Business.

If many many did that, what do you think would happen?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

If many many did that, what do you think would happen?

At least there would be a lot less giving of gift cards.

[Sammy]

While overnight camping permits will no longer be issued, the City will continue to work with protestors to ensure their free-speech rights are protected."

Why aren't these twats expected to 'occupy' within the confines of the law?

Why do the taxpaying citizens, who are having their business disrupted/destroyed have no one working with them to insure their rights?

I'm still waiting for a list of laws that legal, taxpaying citizens may disregard.

Something tells me I have a long wait.

[Pete Bondurant]

These degenerate, communist assholes have announced that they intend to disrupt and occupy the annual Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena. This will be the end of them. These fucking homosexual bastards must be exterminated.....now.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...e-protest.html

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Harvard Keeps Occupy Harvard Harvard-Only

The Harvard iteration of the Occupy protests is ironically, appropriately, and unwillingly now the most exclusive Occupy protest in the country. Guards closed and locked the gates to Harvard Yard in the minutes leading up to the inaugural Occupy Harvard general assembly, meaning that the tent city now built in front of the John Harvard statue will be as exclusive as the university itself. Only people flashing Harvard IDs were allowed in the Yard for the 7 p.m. protest, and Harvard police officers stood sentinel into the night to keep the riffraff out. The enforced exclusivity reads as a pretty ironic asterisk on the latest iteration of the supposedly all-inclusive protest movement, and the students participating in the occupation aren't too happy about it.
[...]

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ts-only/44812/

[Sammy]

Harvard Keeps Occupy Harvard Harvard-Only
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ts-only/44812/

LOL!!! That's just the epitome of irony!

The 1% are the only ones who could possibly attend Haaavad!

[Sammy]

These degenerate, communist assholes have announced that they intend to disrupt and occupy the annual Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena. This will be the end of them. These fucking homosexual bastards must be exterminated.....now.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...e-protest.html

What makes you think they are homos?

[Pete Bondurant]

I know exactly what to do with these bastards.