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    You Just "Sold" Your Baby For $15k! Where You Going, Bridget Wismer? Disney World!




    Is she misguidedly and stupidly trying to do the right thing or is she a selfish cunt?

    POLICE DON'T KNOW what a 54-year-old Philadelphia man planned to do with the infant boy he allegedly bought for $15,000 last week, but one thing's for sure - the baby's mother didn't care.

    For less than the price of a new car, police said, Bridget Wismer, 33, of Brookside Park, Del., sold her month-old son to John Gavaghan, of Old Newtown Road near Tremont in Bustleton.

    The transaction is believed to have occurred between Sept. 28 and Sept. 30, when police executed a search warrant on Gavaghan's home and found him with the child, said Cpl. John Weglarz of the New Castle County, Del., police.

    Police there said they began their investigation on Sept. 4, when members of Wismer's family expressed concerns that she might be trying to sell the newborn to a man from Philadelphia.

    Despite investigations and interviews, police were initially unable to confirm the allegations. Then Gavaghan was caught on video filling out papers about the sordid transaction while at Delaware Park and Casino in Wilmington, Weglarz said.

    "It sounds ridiculous . . . but he was on video surveillance seen completing documents regarding the sale of a baby," Weglarz said. "It was clearly visible."

    It's unclear what documents Gavaghan signed, since the sale of a child is illegal, and it's unknown why he signed them at a casino, Weglarz said.
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pe...131121633.html

    DFS had begun its own investigation after receiving a similar report following the child’s birth according to this article: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/nat..._to_sell_baby/

    Gloria Hockman, director of communications for the National Adoption Center, said the sale "certainly is an unwholesome and inappropriate way to deal with a baby you don't want to raise," she said.

    She also said it is not uncommon.

    "Lots of people are waiting in line for babies," she said. "This is not the first time that I've heard about someone paying for a baby. If her motive is to make $15,000, that's going to be an issue. But if she thought that the man would make a good father, she could have taken him to an agency or to an attorney who could have arranged a home study."

    The investigation began Sept. 4, when police got a call from Wismer's grandmother saying her granddaughter was trying to "sell her newborn son to a homosexual couple for $15,000 because she did not want the child," according to court papers.
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    The baby's birth certificate lists Gavaghan as the biological father.

    "He is not the biological father," Weglarz said. "They didn't even have a relationship. They met through mutual friends."

    Detectives interviewed Wismer's mother and other family members, and they all denied that she planned to sell the infant. They alleged the grandmother was "confused when she made the initial allegation," according to court records.
    http://www.delawareonline.com/articl...-infant-15-000

    And "Mom" goes on a media bltiz...

    A new mom is in hot water after selling her newborn son for $15,000 so she could take her other two sons on a trip to Disney World, according to court documents.
    [...]

    The baby boy was born on Aug. 31 and according to court papers, Wismer didn't want the child.

    In early September, detectives were tipped off by Wismer's grandmother, according to police. They investigated, but couldn't substantiate the baby-selling accusation. In late September, police got another tip that led them to the place where Wismer and Gavaghan met to finalize the deal.

    On Sept. 30, two days after Gavaghan had allegedly taken the 1-month-old boy home, police arrested Gavaghan at his Philadelphia apartment and placed the baby in foster care. Wismer was arrested that same day at her home.
    [...]

    Wismer held back tears Tuesday as she tried to explain what happened.

    "My friend was helping me take care of my son that I just had," Wismer said. "He’s always tried to adopt and I couldn’t raise another child.

    "I wanted the best for my baby and he wanted the best for the baby and we did it the way we thought we were supposed to."
    Video of mom at link: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...131046238.html

    Bridget Wismer, 33, denied allegations that she tried to sell her son, Christian.

    "I wouldn't just give my baby away and never see him," Wismer said. "I gave him to a friend."

    The mother, who is already raising two children, lives with her mother and said she had fallen on hard times. Her friend John Gavaghan, 54, does not have any children and allegedly offered to help his friend out of the situation.
    [...]

    "He thought he was doing everything right, everything properly," said Gavaghan's neighbor, Rita Kurgan. "He is the most loving, wonderful person. No child could have a better father."
    [...]

    Wismer maintained that this is all a big misunderstanding and that if she could do things again, she would do them the same way.

    The child is now in foster care.
    http://www.wdam.com/story/15618935/w...g-to-sell-baby

    [...] Wismer saidsaid Gavaghan is an old friend who, along with her partner, were trying to help her with her three children.

    "He told me he'd help me out and he was like, 'We'll take care of the baby together," Wismer said.
    [...]

    On September 30th, with the help of Philadelphia police, detectives executed a search warrant on Gavaghan's home and allegedly found not only the baby, but evidence of a crime.

    "We did come across evidence, documentation that, on 10 different occasions, there were agreements made - signed by both parties - in reference to the sale of purchase of that baby," said Corp. John Weglarz of the New Castle Co. Police.

    "He was going to raise the baby and give the baby a life that I couldn't give because of my situation," Wismer said. "He was just looking out for me and the baby. We both just love this baby so much."

    But police say they have documents with information regarding payments and balance due for the child to be born on 9/11. Police say Wismer and Gavaghan signed the documents.

    "He was going to take care of this baby financially and help me out with my other two children," said Wismer.

    Both Wismer and Gavaghan are charged with Dealing in Children and 2nd-Degree Conspiracy. Both were released from custody on bail.

    If convicted, they could be each looking at five years in prison.
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...ime&id=8378130

    "I love my kid as much as anybody could love their kid," Wismer said.
    [...]

    "It never would have happened. I would never have had the baby. I have two children that I've raised. This is devastating for them too, because they haven't seen their baby brother."

    Wismer and her other two sons live with her mother in Newark. She says when she got pregnant unexpectedly, and she went to a clinic to have an abortion.

    "I couldn't go through with the abortion. I couldn't just give my baby away. I gave him to a friend who I knew was going to be in his life every day," Wismer said.

    That friend was Jack Gavaghan. He didn't answer his door when we went knocking. Wismer admitted Gavaghan did give her money, but she insists it was not as payment for the baby.

    "We were both doing this together. We were going to doctor's appointments together every day. There was nothing that wasn't together. The thing was he was giving me money and helping me with my other kids," Wismer said.

    "I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. There was nothing that was hidden, everything was out in the open," Wismer said.

    Wismer is unemployed, a single mother, and already supporting two kids. And she's living with her mother.

    Wismer told us her mother refused to put up the new baby also, and so she says she had no choice but to try to make it work with Jack Gavaghan.

    That way, she could still be a part of the baby's life.
    http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/mom-says-she-didn't-sell-her-baby

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    It's unclear what documents Gavaghan signed, since the sale of a child is illegal, and it's unknown why he signed them at a casino, Weglarz said.
    Is the Casino on an Indian reservation? Maybe he thought he couldn't be prosecuted by the state on sovereign land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    Is the Casino on an Indian reservation? Maybe he thought he couldn't be prosecuted by the state on sovereign land.
    Good point! If that is the reason it would definitely point to him knowing what he was doing was against the law.
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    Here's a thought...

    You don't want any more kids...take these fail proof steps:
    Step 1: Close your legs.
    Step 2: If step 1 is impossible to do then see step 3.
    Step 3: BIRTH CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I understand the whole oops I am pregnant. It happened to me ONCE. But I don't understand, opps I'm pregnant again and then another opps I'm pregnant a third time.

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    I had an Oops-I'm-pregnant TWICE. First time I was young, second time I went to OB & they ran a test on a hunch...oops!

    I beleive her.....does that make me incredibly naive? I see what she's saying & the fact that it could be construed that this friend was simply "helping her out" monetarily.
    But she went about it ALL wrong.

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    You know, I'm calling bullshit. If this was so much the right thing, why all the sneaking around and secrecy? Why was money involved anyway, if all she wanted was for the baby to be taken care of? Sounds to me like her only real concern was taking care of her wallet.

    As someone who had a lot of medical problems and had trouble getting pregnant and having babies, it just pisses me off to no end that a woman could give birth to a child and just hand him over to someone for money. She SAID she didn't want the baby. She obviously didn't care about him.

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    dumb questions:

    1. Was the guy married and planning to raise the baby?
    2. Is he a diddler?
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    My take is...

    She got pregnant, and didn't want the baby. But when the Gavaghan guy found out she was pregnant and didn't want it, he offered her money to keep it. This way he could have a baby. (whether it was just because he wanted to be a daddy, or because he had sicker things in mind) So, she took the option and had the baby.

    Pretty shitty thing to do. So, she gets a baby and money. (since she claims she would still be a part of the baby's life)
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    I want to know what this old fart wanted with this baby. He is 72 years old for fuck's sake. It's not as if he has the years and energy to raise a baby. Okay now I am leaning towards diddler.
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    Yeah, I'm having a hard time believing it as well; if she wanted to "take care of him together" and if she "loves my kid as much as anyone would love their kid", then why was she taking payment for him? Hmmmm?
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    Where did you read that? I read he was 54. Maybe he really did want a baby he could raise with his husband/boyfriend. That would make a nice change.
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    You know whats amazing? Nobody even gives a shit about who 'real' Dad is. Mom doesn't mention him, Grandma doesn't, the authorities don't, nobody on the thread does even. Most tellingly, Dad himself is fine being anonymous in this. Don't see or hear about him being agitated in the slightest about his own son being bartered around like a commodity. Its a great testament to how disconnected fathers are more and more from their children not in just a traditional sense, but as a social construct of responsibility at all in today's world.

    And we'll all pay for it in the end, because a bunch of kids - dare I say the majority at this point - are growing up now with no inkling of what a responsible man is; either as an example to the boys of what to be, or as an example to the girls of what they should let knock'em up. That is going to have huge unforeseen consequences on the quality of character in the coming generations. I'm no old-fogey Focus on Family type, but morals exist for reasons beyond the theological or abstract. And we're going to learn that the hard way in the coming decades when we literally reap what we have sowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mybabiesmomma View Post
    I want to know what this old fart wanted with this baby. He is 72 years old for fuck's sake. It's not as if he has the years and energy to raise a baby. Okay now I am leaning towards diddler.
    The article said the man is 54 years old, not 72.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheZeitgeist View Post
    You know whats amazing? Nobody even gives a shit about who 'real' Dad is. Mom doesn't mention him, Grandma doesn't, the authorities don't, nobody on the thread does even. Most tellingly, Dad himself is fine being anonymous in this. Don't see or hear about him being agitated in the slightest about his own son being bartered around like a commodity. Its a great testament to how disconnected fathers are more and more from their children not in just a traditional sense, but as a social construct of responsibility at all in today's world.

    And we'll all pay for it in the end, because a bunch of kids - dare I say the majority at this point - are growing up now with no inkling of what a responsible man is; either as an example to the boys of what to be, or as an example to the girls of what they should let knock'em up. That is going to have huge unforeseen consequences on the quality of character in the coming generations. I'm no old-fogey Focus on Family type, but morals exist for reasons beyond the theological or abstract. And we're going to learn that the hard way in the coming decades when we literally reap what we have sowed.
    I took this to mean her "partner" was the baby's father and was aware of what was happening.

    [...] Wismer saidsaid Gavaghan is an old friend who, along with her partner, were trying to help her with her three children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Good point! If that is the reason it would definitely point to him knowing what he was doing was against the law.
    yea, i call b.s. both super guilty. she coulda mailed the little guy to me : P

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    How is this different from surrogacy births? She felt like this gay couple would care for her child well and give him a good life, many if not most surrogate mothers take money for their child and statistics show gay couple do excellent jobs raising a child, the child does not necessairily (catch the gay bug) (Im being sarcastic here) If she felt this couple would raise her child and give him/her a good life, what is the problem? I know someone who has done this twice with heterosexual parents, she received money for it both times plus many other perks (not drugs), she still gets to see her baby sometimes and is called Auntie, now why is this different? Someone please explain why surrogacy is not selling your child and why this is wrong... I also happen to know the surrogate parents were not checked out, its a deal just like this except both times she didnt even know the family before she met them... and she did it mainly for the money and she also said so she could help a childless couple have a baby, but she still took the money they offered...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    How is this different from surrogacy births? She felt like this gay couple would care for her child well and give him a good life, many if not most surrogate mothers take money for their child and statistics show gay couple do excellent jobs raising a child, the child does not necessairily (catch the gay bug) (Im being sarcastic here) If she felt this couple would raise her child and give him/her a good life, what is the problem? I know someone who has done this twice with heterosexual parents, she received money for it both times plus many other perks (not drugs), she still gets to see her baby sometimes and is called Auntie, now why is this different? Someone please explain why surrogacy is not selling your child and why this is wrong... I also happen to know the surrogate parents were not checked out, its a deal just like this except both times she didnt even know the family before she met them... and she did it mainly for the money and she also said so she could help a childless couple have a baby, but she still took the money they offered...
    It's illegal because the adoption agencies/lawyers couldn't get their greedy paws in on it.
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    A Delaware woman charged with trying to sell her baby to a Philadelphia man for $15,000 is behind bars after violating the terms of her pretrial release.

    Court records indicate that 33-year-old Bridget Wismer of Newark was taken into custody last week and is being held under $25,000 cash-only bond at Baylor women's prison in New Castle.

    Wismer had been released on $750 bail earlier this month after being charged along with John Gavaghan with dealing in children and conspiracy.

    Prosecutors dropped a subsequent request for higher bail after Wismer agreed to undergo mental health and substance abuse evaluations, and to wear an electronic monitoring braclet.

    Authorities said Wismer failed to abide by those conditions and was wearing a disguise when she was found at Delaware Park racetrack and casino.
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...ime&id=8410668

    Did she think the disguise would confuse the monitoring bracelet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheevaa View Post
    It's illegal because the adoption agencies/lawyers couldn't get their greedy paws in on it.
    Exactly. No one is making money off it besides the mother,so therefore it's illegal.(rollingeyessmileyhereifIhadone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirel View Post
    Exactly. No one is making money off it besides the mother,so therefore it's illegal.(rollingeyessmileyhereifIhadone)
    Actually, it's so that stupid people don't churn out babies willy nilly to line their pockets, pedophiles don't trick dimwits into supplying victims, people wanting free slave labor don't get their hooks into cumdumpsters, and those with histories of abuse don't try to replace the ones they've already lost as well as a host of other reasons designed to PROTECT the children.

    Most people are fine and suitable parents but without the safegaurds the legal system tries to provide, the abuse and corruption would wreak havoc on the lives of many more kids than it already does. What we have in place doesn't prevent it but it does help. The laws are there because of what people did in the past and to stop/slow it from happening in the future.
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    I wish I could still have kids, makes me sick that these people that can pop them out every year want to sell them! I wonder why she kept the first 2 kids? She sold the baby to take the other kids to Disney...I mean WTF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsolete View Post
    I took this to mean her "partner" was the baby's father and was aware of what was happening.
    From what I gather as a consumer of modern media, 'partner' in modern PC vernacular means the gay lover of the story's principal. If its the father, they say 'father.' And in this case even if 'partner' does mean 'father' how pathetic is that? Since when are fathers reduced to 'partners?' The devolution of the other half that makes humanity is exposed in such weasel-words. Nobody calls the mother 'partner' that's for sure. Sad.

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    A Delaware woman charged with trying to sell her baby to a Philadelphia man for $15,000 has lost a bid to have her bail conditions modified.

    Bridget Wismer of Newark had asked to have her bail conditions revised so she could leave Delaware to address an out-of-state visitation matter involving another child.

    But prosecutors and probation and parole authorities opposed the request, and a Superior Court commissioner on Tuesday refused to change Wismer’s bail conditions.

    The 33-year-old Wismer was briefly incarcerated last month after violating previous terms of her pretrial release, which included undergoing mental health and substance abuse evaluations and wearing an electronic monitoring bracelet.
    http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/2...eged-baby-sale

    The Newark mother accused of selling her baby made a tearful appearance on Dr. Phil, telling the talk host she is innocent.

    33-year-old Bridget Wismer said on the TV show titled 'Parents Crossing the Line' she wants her son back.

    "This is my kids that we're talking about, and I'm a good mother. That's my one job in this life, and I'm good at it. These are terrible things that are being said.," Wismer said.
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    33-year-old Bridget Wismer said on the TV show titled 'Parents Crossing the Line' she wants her son back.
    Now she wants him back? What a shame - what a shame that someone has to have everything taken away from them to realize what they had.

    Does life get tough, yeah. Does it suck sometimes and we wish we would have made different choices, yeah.

    If she didn't want the baby though, all she had to do was go to an adoption agency. It would have been quick and legal. I'm sure Gavaghan could have gone to the same agency and he could have paid for the baby, it would have all been legit.

    My silver lining - I was rather pleased that this wasn't about anyone being raped, murdered, tortured, malnurished or shaken to death. At least this was just an article about stupidity.

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    I find it highly suspicious that this 54, that looks like he's going on 72, man wants a baby. . . but I'm suspicious natured.
    She should just put her baby up for adoption if money isn't the the motivating factor.
    Wonder how her boys feel about their baby brother being sold so they can go to Disney Land? yippie or wtf?

    Where ever baby Christian ultimately ends up I hope is with someone who loves him second to any amount of money.
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    Both plead guilty:
    Bridget Wismer was going to take the money 55-year-old John Gavaghan gave her for the infant boy and take her other children to Disney World, prosecutors said. She pleaded guilty but mentally ill to falsifying her son’s birth certificate, a felony.

    Gavaghan, who was improperly listed as the child’s father, pleaded guilty to the same charge today. State prosecutors dropped two other charges in exchange for their pleas.
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    The two face up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 when they are sentenced in August.

    Wismer was charged in October with selling her baby, born Aug. 31, to Gavaghan, who has a criminal record. Gavaghan’s attorney, Peter Veith, said they were satisfied with the plea agreement, adding they would have had a difficult time defending the charge of falsifying the certificate.

    “We could have defended the other two, but this was a fair and reasonable resolution,” Veith said.
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    Allowing Wismer to take a guilty but mentally ill plea was appropriate, said her attorney, Robert M. Goff Jr. Wismer received a mental health evaluation before the hearing that was provided to the court.

    “We’re relatively pleased at it and we’re looking forward to Ms. Wismer getting the treatment she needs and then appearing for sentencing and making her life right and her child’s life right,” Goff said.

    Scully said the boy has been in the custody of the state’s Division of Family Services. She did not know the status of Wismer’s other children.
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    All she had to do was sell her baby legally, surrogate mothers get about that much or more.
    Instead she picks the skeeviest guy on the planet who no doubt is a baby fucker. That baby would have gown up in a cage if it lives past 3.
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    "Guilty but mentally ill", a plea or verdict that I love because it allows for treatment and jail/prison, but I would love to know what her mental illness is.

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    Seems like a nice enough fellow to me. Surely his intentions were on the up n up...and I do mean UP!

    All of a sudden I'm reminded of the Uncle Ernie scene from The Who's Tommy.....FIDDLE ABOUT! FIDDLE ABOUT!

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