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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    Your right about the date it's with the pay $100.00 to Big Fat Sis article, and this won't happen to your child
    Seems like a TSA threat to wrestle money from passengers, next thing you know she'll charge families ransom to land
    Only whacko nut jobs think that paying $100 will keep your kid from getting groped. It's for a background check, fingerprinting, and an interview... paying for even more invasion of privacy? And after you've given them all that access, IF you set off an alarm or raise suspicion, you STILL have to go through regular security and get the pat-down.

    I have never been groped by TSA. Patted down, yes.. I don't need some sensationalized term like "grope" to know and understand what is happening. Trust me, I've been groped, and what the TSA does isn't even close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Only whacko nut jobs think that paying $100 will keep your kid from getting groped. It's for a background check, fingerprinting, and an interview... paying for even more invasion of privacy? And after you've given them all that access, IF you set off an alarm or raise suspicion, you STILL have to go through regular security and get the pat-down.

    I have never been groped by TSA. Patted down, yes.. I don't need some sensationalized term like "grope" to know and understand what is happening. Trust me, I've been groped, and what the TSA does isn't even close.
    No you don't have to get groped if you pay
    I would hope anyone giving off an alarm like "I'm going to kill everyone", would attract the special attention of even the dumbest TSA groper, although one can not be sure after seeing TSA gropers in action

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1pg9EvA8M

    'It's a completely different experience than what you're used to,' Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines frequent flier who was invited into Precheck, told the Journal.
    'It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    No you don't have to get groped if you pay
    I would hope anyone giving off an alarm like "I'm going to kill everyone", would attract the special attention of even the dumbest TSA groper, although one can not be sure after seeing TSA gropers in action

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1pg9EvA8M
    You obviously have not flown recently. Going through security doesn not mean getting a pat down. Even without being part of Precheck, you DO NOT necessarily get groped or even a pat down. The vast majority of travelers sail through without such a thing happening. ONLY if you are randomly selected OR have an anomoly in screening do you get a pat down. A very small percentage of fliers.

    From the article TMS linked to:
    TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security.
    Fliers will STILL get randomly selected for regular screening even if they are "Prechecked"... and thus may still end up getting a pat down.

    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    'It's a completely different experience than what you're used to,' Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines frequent flier who was invited into Precheck, told the Journal.
    'It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are.'
    I agree with that dude. Not having to take off your shoes, belt and jacket and unload all your electronics and liquids would be nice. Not worth $100 to me, though. Just going through a metal detector instead of full body scan doesn't really save that much time (3 seconds?) as those new machines are quick and easier than hell.


    I have no clue why you are beating this dead horse to death. The TSA is moving more and more towards a common sense and quicker approach to moving people along. Isn't that what you've been bitching about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    You obviously have not flown recently. Going through security doesn not mean getting a pat down. Even without being part of Precheck, you DO NOT necessarily get groped or even a pat down. The vast majority of travelers sail through without such a thing happening. ONLY if you are randomly selected OR have an anomoly in screening do you get a pat down. A very small percentage of fliers.

    From the article TMS linked to:


    Fliers will STILL get randomly selected for regular screening even if they are "Prechecked"... and thus may still end up getting a pat down.


    I agree with that dude. Not having to take off your shoes, belt and jacket and unload all your electronics and liquids would be nice. Not worth $100 to me, though. Just going through a metal detector instead of full body scan doesn't really save that much time (3 seconds?) as those new machines are quick and easier than hell.


    I have no clue why you are beating this dead horse to death. The TSA is moving more and more towards a common sense and quicker approach to moving people along. Isn't that what you've been bitching about?
    Been a while, have three flights scheduled over the next 3 months, one international can't wait
    OOOHHH! OOOHH!! that feels so good, OOOHHHH yeah just like that, OOOOOOOOHH
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    Bar Refaeli Flies

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-pat-down.html

    The Israel supermodel tweeted about the ordeal to her fans, explaining that a female officer went a little too far with a routine patdown.

    The brunette beauty told her followers that the incident left her contemplating the woman's 'sexual preferences'.
    'I got a security "patdown" by a woman at the airport that made me feel very uncomfortable and left no doubt about her sexual preferences,' she wrote on the social networking site.

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    FINALLY! Some common sense! I'm still mad they wouldn't let me take my tacky Las Vegas snow globe on the plane a few years ago. I paid $5 for that damn thing and had to leave it in the security line. I'm sure the TSA agent took it home and it now adorns some shelf in his house. You know how greedy those perverts are.

    Souvenir hunters rejoice: Later this summer, you will able to pack snow globes in your carry-on luggage when you go to the airport.

    Transportation Security Administration officers will permit the items as long as they are packed in a passenger's plastic, quart-sized, resealable bag along with other gels and liquids.
    http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...rt-checkpoints

    I'm going to get a replacement tacky snow globe during the Gathering of the Demons. I'll pack it in my suitcase just in case there's a TSA agent that isn't aware of the new rules. According to biteme, they are of dubious IQ and I don't want to take my chances on losing another treasure.
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    Mother Found Guilty In Airport Pat-Down Case

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A woman was found guilty Tuesday of disorderly conduct for berating security officers trying to pat down her teenage daughter and then refusing to submit to the procedure herself at a Tennessee airport.

    Jurors deliberated four hours before convicting Andrea Abbott. She had faced up to 30 days in jail and a $50 fine for her conduct in the July 2011 confrontation at Nashville International Airport, but the judge placed her on probation for a year because she has no criminal record.

    Judge Joe P. Binkley Jr., warned the 42-year-old "to be certain you don't get into any further problems with the law."

    Abbott didn't talk to reporters outside the courtroom. Her defense attorney, Brent Horst, said she was disappointed in the verdict, but felt she got a fair trial.

    "She just wanted to stand on principle, because she felt that she had done nothing wrong," said Horst, who handled the case pro bono. "And I admire her for that."

    The prosecution said Abbott's behavior "prevented others from carrying out their lawful activities," which is part of the definition of disorderly conduct under state law. Abbott testified during the first day of the trial on Monday that she was not unruly but did yell at officers. She said she was "irritated, but not arguing."

    However, Assistant District Attorney Megan King said in closing arguments Tuesday that Abbott's behavior caused two security lanes to be halted and made a normally one-minute security check a 30-minute ordeal.

    "The defendant should have been aware that her behavior would prevent others from carrying out their lawful activities," King said.
    Horst said his client may have been loud, but she was only exercising her right to free speech.

    "Telling a police officer your opinion, even in strong language, to me that's a First Amendment right," Horst told reporters.

    According to an affidavit, Abbott first refused to allow her daughter — then 14 — to go through a body scan machine, saying she didn't want "someone to see our bodies naked."

    Abbott and her daughter went through a metal detector and TSA Officer Karen King was sent to conduct a pat-down. King testified that before the pat-down, Abbott yelled in her face that she didn't want anyone "touching her daughter's crotch."

    Abbott was accompanying her daughter to the gate but not flying herself. She eventually allowed her daughter to undergo the pat-down, but then refused one for herself. By that point, airport police officer Jeff Nolen had been called and he testified that he asked her several times to calm down, but she wouldn't.

    "You're not putting your (expletive) hands on me, this is (expletive)," he recalled Abbott saying.
    Nolen said he then arrested Abbott, who he said continued to curse and call officers pedophiles. Abbott had lived in Clarksville when she was charged and has since moved to Texas.

    "She gave him no option," district attorney King said Tuesday. "She put him in that position with her behavior."

    During her testimony, Abbott acknowledged that she did say a few curse words, but said she wasn't in anyone's face and had a
    "normal conversation" about what she believed to be inappropriate about the pat-downs.

    Earlier Tuesday, Horst used a surveillance video of what happened to support his claim that Abbott was the one being yelled at and that she didn't create a distraction. The video, which didn't have audio, did show Nolen speaking to Abbott close up and making some hand motions. It also showed people walking around Abbott and the officers.

    "It's clear from the video ... she wasn't preventing anything," Horst said.

    However, district attorney King said the video "doesn't tell the complete story of this case," which she said "is not a free speech issue." She said the officers reminded Abbott several times that she could file a complaint if she had a problem with the security check proceedings.

    "You can speak your mind, but you can't do it in an illegal manner," she said. "What the defendant did was a crime."

    The case briefly drew national attention as hundreds offered Abbott support and donations amid debate over whether new, intrusive screening methods should be allowed at airports.

    "Since 9/11, we're losing a lot of freedom, and we have to draw the line somewhere," Horst said in closing arguments.
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