Erica Clayburn And Ryan Martin Play Marco Polo With A Gun

[TheMorningStar]

Ryan Martin, 29, is recovering from a bullet to the face that broke his jaw. First Deputy District Attorney Fran Chardo said Martin and 20-year-old Erica Clayburn were playing a game they had played in the past, but this time the gun was loaded.
"She would close her eyes with a pistol in her hand. He would go somewhere in the room, say 'gun,' and she would have to open her eyes and dry fire the pistol," Chardo said.
Martin and Clayburn were charged with reckless endangerment and conspiracy. Clayburn is also facing simple assault charges. Both were released pending a preliminary hearing next month.
"It is incredibly stupid, and stupidity is no defense to a criminal charge," Chardo said.
The shooting happened last month at Martin's mother's home in the 100 block of Areba Avenue, where he and Clayburn had been living. Martin's young nephews were not home at the time.
"I blame both of them for playing with guns and being stupid," said Martin's sister, April Tucci. "It's taken a huge toll on our mother. My children were definitely spared. Thank God they didn't have to witness it."
Martin's cousins were home next door. The 9- and 11-year-old were just on the other side of the duplex wall.
"This bullet could have passed through a wall and could have harmed, could have killed someone in the adjoining unit," Chardo said.

http://www.abc27.com/story/14389634/...-game-shooting

[VXIII]

Well both of these idiots deserve whatever happens, isnt that how this game is played? Haha, games over, glad no one else was hurt but the two dumbasses who played it, wonder what they did for sex games, close your eyes, here I am, poke and find me...

[princessgrandma]

There were kids living there, FFS. God, I'm glad they weren't there at the time.

People can do some stupid stuff sometimes, and really, I sometimes feel that if they're stupid enough to do this, then let them do it. A few less lowlifes in the world. That's just my opinion.

I had a friend in high school whose brother killed himself while playing Russian Roulette. Literally blew his brains out. The kid had forced himself on me when I was younger, so I really didn't have any regretful feelings in regards to his doing this. What he put his family through, however, was horrible.

Sometimes I think people like this can't really blow their brains out b/c they don't have brains in the first place.

[ShortNSweet]

You Should really know people before you judge them. Knowing both of the parties involved and having lived with them for sometime both before and after the incident, I would still trust them both with a loaded weapon around my four year old. I know for a fact that they were not playing a game with the weapon like the police are alleging. She was trying to disassemble the weapon for cleaning purposes and didn't even realized she had loaded a round. there was no magazine in the gun and they had both cleared the weapon already. When she pulled the trigger to release the slide it set off a round that was chambered while they were trying to clear it. They were not playing a game. She would never knowingly point a weapon at anything she wasn't intending to shoot whether it was loaded or not. The "game" the police are talking about, is one that is taught on military and police ranges as a training exercise he doesn't hide all over the room and her eyes are never closed. That is all fabrication on the part of the police. She handles an unloaded and holstered weapon with no mag and he stands behind her out of her range of fire and tells her gun left, ahead, or, right and she has to draw, punch out and aim in. that is it. the trigger is never even pulled. We do it during our military MP training, and they have done t in my living room. They would never have the weapon out if there were any children in the home and there is no way it could have crossed to the other side of the duplex as their bedroom is on the other side of the home. This is purely and accidental discharge that unfortunately struck someone and nearly ruined two lives.

[gee]

You Should really know people before you judge them. Knowing both of the parties involved and having lived with them for sometime both before and after the incident, I would still trust them both with a loaded weapon around my four year old. I know for a fact that they were not playing a game with the weapon like the police are alleging. She was trying to disassemble the weapon for cleaning purposes and didn't even realized she had loaded a round. there was no magazine in the gun and they had both cleared the weapon already. When she pulled the trigger to release the slide it set off a round that was chambered while they were trying to clear it. They were not playing a game. She would never knowingly point a weapon at anything she wasn't intending to shoot whether it was loaded or not. The "game" the police are talking about, is one that is taught on military and police ranges as a training exercise he doesn't hide all over the room and her eyes are never closed. That is all fabrication on the part of the police. She handles an unloaded and holstered weapon with no mag and he stands behind her out of her range of fire and tells her gun left, ahead, or, right and she has to draw, punch out and aim in. that is it. the trigger is never even pulled. We do it during our military MP training, and they have done t in my living room. They would never have the weapon out if there were any children in the home and there is no way it could have crossed to the other side of the duplex as their bedroom is on the other side of the home. This is purely and accidental discharge that unfortunately struck someone and nearly ruined two lives.

@ShortNSweetThanks for coming on giving us the inside scoop. You know we can only comment on what has been reported. You can see why people judge. If that were true then that would make those individuals very stupid people.

[Valasca]

@ShortNSweet, EVERYONE judges, hon. Whether it's over a stupid news story or just by the shoes they are wearing. It just is.

[walkingeagle]

She was trying to disassemble the weapon for cleaning purposes and didn't even realized she had loaded a round. there was no magazine in the gun and they had both cleared the weapon already. When she pulled the trigger to release the slide it set off a round that was chambered while they were trying to clear it. They were not playing a game. She would never knowingly point a weapon at anything she wasn't intending to shoot whether it was loaded or not. The "game" the police are talking about, is one that is taught on military and police ranges as a training exercise he doesn't hide all over the room and her eyes are never closed. That is all fabrication on the part of the police. She handles an unloaded and holstered weapon with no mag and he stands behind her out of her range of fire and tells her gun left, ahead, or, right and she has to draw, punch out and aim in. that is it. the trigger is never even pulled. We do it during our military MP training, and they have done t in my living room. They would never have the weapon out if there were any children in the home and there is no way it could have crossed to the other side of the duplex as their bedroom is on the other side of the home. This is purely and accidental discharge that unfortunately struck someone and nearly ruined two lives.

Care to guess where I call BS on this one? The trigger DOES NOT release the slide!


ETAL It is NEVER an accidental discharge! It is a negligent discharge!

[walkingeagle]

I'm having a hard time with this "game" that you say is played. What would be the purpose of it?

[misssmartypants]

Well, if I was stoned out of mind,and mentally challenged, this would be my kinda fun.

[badfish76]

With an automatic or semi-auto, there is ALWAYS one in the chamber and the gun is NOT safe until the breach is open.

Hello??

AND you NEVER, EVER put your finger on the damn trigger if you aren't trying to make a hole. Sheesh.

[walkingeagle]

Well, if I was stoned out of mind,and mentally challenged, this would be my kinda fun.

I hope this poster is FOS! Otherwise, there isn't a swinging dick in that are worthy of a firearm!

[ShortNSweet]

Care to guess where I call BS on this one? The trigger DOES NOT release the slide!


ETAL It is NEVER an accidental discharge! It is a negligent discharge!

Remind me never to let you handle my weapon. On a Glock 19 you pull the slide release down and pull the trigger to remove the slide. I own the weapon and clean it regularly as I am constantly on the range.
Not only are you wrong but you are a moron who has clearly never handled the weapon and need to quit speaking out if turn.

[ShortNSweet]

There is a minute long video on YouTube of a guy taking the slide off his Glock 19 watch it. you can clearly see him pull the trigger and the shifting of the trigger mechanism group. It's pretty clear if you look at the back of the weapon because there is no barrel on his weapon

[ShortNSweet]

My bad. I said you pull the slide release I meant he slide removal switch. It's on the slide itself on the front half of the weapon.

[MinorAbrasions]

Remind me never to let you handle my weapon. On a Glock 19 you pull the slide release down and pull the trigger to remove the slide. I own the weapon and clean it regularly as I am constantly on the range.
Not only are you wrong but you are a moron who has clearly never handled the weapon and need to quit speaking out if turn.

You're clearly the moron if you're willing to let someone else handle your weapon. But honestly, it doesn't suprise me with the kind of company you keep.

[ShortNSweet]

You're clearly the moron if you're willing to let someone else handle your weapon. But honestly, it doesn't suprise me with the kind of company you keep.

I'd rather give someone my weapon and teach them to handle it safety than have a moron like you who doesn't have a clue go out and buy one. A mistake is one thing and whether you like it or not they happen. But s moron without a clue handling a weapon they don't know a thing about is worse because that's just asking for trouble. So yeah I may teach someone to handle my weapon but if you want to sell a weapon to someone who doesn't know how to use it be my guest. I hope you get what you have coming for being so stupidly irresponsible though.

[ShortNSweet]

I'm having a hard time with this "game" that you say is played. What would be the purpose of it?

It's about reaction time. If you can see then they can see you. you have to.be able to locate and fire in just a couple seconds time or you or your battle is dead.

[DamagedGoods]

I'd rather give someone my weapon and teach them to handle it safety than have a moron like you who doesn't have a clue go out and buy one. A mistake is one thing and whether you like it or not they happen. But s moron without a clue handling a weapon they don't know a thing about is worse because that's just asking for trouble. So yeah I may teach someone to handle my weapon but if you want to sell a weapon to someone who doesn't know how to use it be my guest. I hope you get what you have coming for being so stupidly irresponsible though.

If you gave them your weapon to teach them how to operate it safely, why did someone get shot?

[badfish76]

I would also like to point out that when LE does training for such reaction times they seldom use real guns for just this reason.

This whole situation was stupid and I think we can all agree on that.

[walkingeagle]

Remind me never to let you handle my weapon. On a Glock 19 you pull the slide release down and pull the trigger to remove the slide. I own the weapon and clean it regularly as I am constantly on the range.
Not only are you wrong but you are a moron who has clearly never handled the weapon and need to quit speaking out if turn.

That is one piss ignorant feature on any weapon! I don't know anything about Glock's. I do however know about all of the military firearms. So I may be a bit outdated. I was a light weapons specialist, although that part came through correspondence courses, so you are a bit off the mark on never handling a weapon!

[walkingeagle]

It's about reaction time. If you can see then they can see you. you have to.be able to locate and fire in just a couple seconds time or you or your battle is dead.

You mean the same principle as a range with pop-up targets? If they can see you and you cannot see them, isn't it clear that you should have your eyes open?

[TheMorningStar]

Marco!

[biteme]

Care to guess where I call BS on this one? The trigger DOES NOT release the slide!


ETAL It is NEVER an accidental discharge! It is a negligent discharge!

With an automatic or semi-auto, there is ALWAYS one in the chamber and the gun is NOT safe until the breach is open.

Hello??

AND you NEVER, EVER put your finger on the damn trigger if you aren't trying to make a hole. Sheesh.

You pull the slide, pull the trigger and release the slide to close it

[walkingeagle]

You pull the slide, pull the trigger and release the slide to close it

Thanks biteme! I can see this brand does not agree with me!

[Robynne]

Pol.... oh

[malq]

You Should really know people before you judge them. Knowing both of the parties involved and having lived with them for sometime both before and after the incident, I would still trust them both with a loaded weapon around my four year old. I know for a fact that they were not playing a game with the weapon like the police are alleging. She was trying to disassemble the weapon for cleaning purposes and didn't even realized she had loaded a round. there was no magazine in the gun and they had both cleared the weapon already. When she pulled the trigger to release the slide it set off a round that was chambered while they were trying to clear it. They were not playing a game. She would never knowingly point a weapon at anything she wasn't intending to shoot whether it was loaded or not. The "game" the police are talking about, is one that is taught on military and police ranges as a training exercise he doesn't hide all over the room and her eyes are never closed. That is all fabrication on the part of the police. She handles an unloaded and holstered weapon with no mag and he stands behind her out of her range of fire and tells her gun left, ahead, or, right and she has to draw, punch out and aim in. that is it. the trigger is never even pulled. We do it during our military MP training, and they have done t in my living room. They would never have the weapon out if there were any children in the home and there is no way it could have crossed to the other side of the duplex as their bedroom is on the other side of the home. This is purely and accidental discharge that unfortunately struck someone and nearly ruined two lives.