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    Well, it didn't take much time for Fred Phelps to wet his pants in excitement over this horrible event; I'll bet he's having multiple holy orgasms. It seems God sent a hitman to take out Rep. Giffords and all the other innocent victims of the Arizona shooting! He can barely control his glee over the bloodshed, and is making plans to picket every funeral so the rest of us damned-to-hell heathens can see what awaits those who don't listen to Fred Phel...I mean God. There's video at this link: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...ro-spits-again

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinablue View Post
    Well, it didn't take much time for Fred Phelps to wet his pants in excitement over this horrible event; I'll bet he's having multiple holy orgasms. It seems God sent a hitman to take out Rep. Giffords and all the other innocent victims of the Arizona shooting! He can barely control his glee over the bloodshed, and is making plans to picket every funeral so the rest of us damned-to-hell heathens can see what awaits those who don't listen to Fred Phel...I mean God. There's video at this link: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...ro-spits-again

    Is it just me or does he really look like the 'Tall Man' in Phantasm?
    That SOB really pisses me off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TACO View Post
    That SOB really pisses me off!
    I don't think he's an SOB. SOB means he was given birth to. I think he mutated and crawled out of a pond. A really black scummy one. Or a sewage lagoon.
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    Double posted.
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    Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails


    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...l?hpid=topnews


    From June 14:
    "We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird. I sit by the door with my purse handy. If you see it on the news one night, know that I got out fast..."

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    I think the sensationalistic reporting of this young man's mental instability is absurd. I mean come on...it's bordering yellow journalism. Obviously his brain wasn't playing Connect Four at any point in time, yet there are severe political ramifications in order. A special election will likely be called to replace Giffords and Jesse Kelly (you know, the Tea Party favourite that campaigned for people to "Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.") will win it since it's a swing district and a less-popular Democrat will lose...giving the Repubs another seat. Incidentally, Faux News isn't reporting this...they're focusing on this guy's mental instability. Negligent incitement via vitriolic political rhetoric is clearly a responsibility on someone's behalf. And the hush from Tea Party camps delivers an aura of culpability.

    Where is this kid's family? Where are his friends/associates? Why is no news coming out about this guy save for the atypical "I sat beside this kid in class once yadda yadda"?

    On a side note, I find the political ties absolutely hilarious (to the point of tears) pinging back and forth between MSNBC and Fox. I don't even need Comedy Central at this point.

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    This incident has nothing to do with Fox News, Sarah Palin or the Tea Party Movement. This fellow was schizophrenic. As one who is mildly afflicted with this disorder, I can assure you that his attempts to avoid the messages being constantly transferred to his brain via parking metres and their minions cannot be completely discounted....and as everyone knows....parking metres loathe Sarah Palin. Parking metres are rabid supporters of Glenn Olberbeck.
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    No one is 'mildly' schizophrenic, silly. Do you have a 'mild' case of melanoma as well?

    You cannot deny the political lingerings behind this.

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    Broken: The only way they would have a special election is IF she dies......And personally I think this assholes mental status should come into play.....but yes the cable channels are overdoing it....And as far as Parents/associates.....think about this for a second....Someone you know just killed 6 people and wounded 12 including a Congresswoman. The News Media comes knocking on your door, would YOU answer? I sure as hell wouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In fact I'M at the Courthouse obtaining restraining orders.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenandtwisted View Post
    You cannot deny the political lingerings behind this.
    I've got a new theory. The conservatives are claiming this man is liberal. The liberals have pegged his actions as a clear result of violent conservative rhetoric. In reality?

    ...the kid is a self-described nihlist who finds the government, the Constitution and everything that derives from it to me "illegal". A little extreme, but what the hell...

    The independents have finally snapped and are looking to spark a war. Governments and cults alike have considered (and, at times implemented) such tactics. A third party attacks an entity that is at odds with another entity, cloaking itself as entity number two, hoping that entity one attacks entity two in retaliation, sparking a full-scale conflict.

    Problem here is, they picked someone a little two blatantly INSANE. He couldn't remember his only line. "This is for you, Sarah!" That would have almost sealed it, but Democrats don't even believe in defense, so they wouldn't have struck back.

    Perhaps independents will learn from their mistakes.
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    Both the Republicans and the Democrats have used maps with bulls eyes and targets in the past. It is not one sided.



    I was reading a blog that posted several screen shots of a Map that unhappy democrats posted that had other Dem's as "targets". It is just as easy to put the blame on them as it is to blame Palin.
    For example the shooter is said to have a letter thanking him in 2007 for attending a Gifford rally similar to the one yesterday. In 2008 Rep. Gifford was named by some Democratic group as a "target".

    When I do watch the cable "news" channels they all are guilty of spewing hatred in their own way or another.




    Just my 2 cents.
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    Who in the hell takes advanced poetry?

    Waste a credit much? I'd be pissed too

    Not that pissed though.....

    He's an idiot. Death penalty por favor
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    This wackadoodle is all over the board.

    A sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

    Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.

    A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil lay nearby
    , photos reveal.

    Experts on Sunday said the elements are featured in the ceremonies of a number of occult groups.

    Investigators have focused on Loughner's online anti-government ramblings as the chief motivation for the shooting Saturday of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

    The discovery of the shrine raises the possibility that Loughner, 22, may have been driven by other forces.
    [...]

    "It was obvious to everyone that Jared wasn't a normal guy,"said neighbor Anthony Woods, 19.

    Loughner worked as a volunteer at the Pima Animal Care Center, where he walked dogs and cleaned cages. "He loved animals and was a good worker," said another volunteer.
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    Four people are being hailed as heroes after Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson.

    Daniel Hernandez
    used his hands to stop the bleeding from Giffords' head. Roger Salzgeber and Joseph Zamudio tackled the suspect.

    But it was a 61-year-old woman who grabbed the magazine and handgun from the suspect that witnesses said helped prevent further tragedy.

    "It was one shot, and then a moment with nothing, and then a series of shots," said Patricia Maisch of Tucson. "I saw him coming down the line of chairs there, in front of the Safeway, just shooting people."

    Two man tackled the suspected shooter, but he could have done more damage.

    He still had the gun in his hand as he laid face-to-face with Maisch, she said.

    "I was waiting to be shot, I was wondering how it was gonna feel to be shot," she said.

    Maisch said she didn't stop to think of her own safety, she didn't hesitate for a second.

    "I immediately knelt up over him, because he was right there almost on top of me, and the gun was in his right hand," she said.

    She said she grabbed the 9mm handgun and the fully loaded magazine he took out of his pocket, disarming him before he could inflict more damage.

    Even after all she's done, Maisch remained humble.

    Maisch credits the two men who took the shooter down, rather than patting herself on the back.

    "I was the suspenders, they were the belt, you know? I was just a little bit of extra security,"
    she said.
    [...]
    http://www.kpho.com/news/26420808/detail.html

    More detailed info on their actions: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...g-morning.html

    This morning I saw Joseph Zamudio and Daniel Hernandez interviewed on TV. It is amazing that what went down happened in seconds and these people all did what they did. Zamudio even had a loaded gun but didn't need to use it or even pull it out.
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    In regards to WBC: Arizona is an open carry state. They might think twice about going there.

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    nydailnews is saying there were 5 people involved.

    There was the unassuming, white-haired, 61-year-old woman, the unlikeliest of champions, who grabbed the ammo clip away from the gunman when he tried to reload.

    There was the 20-year-old intern who ran toward the gunfire to save the wounded congresswoman's life.

    There were the three guys - one of them 74 and bleeding from a head wound - who tackled the Arizona assassin and held him down on the asphalt as he struggled to kill more people.

    "He was going to keep shooting. It was not over," said Joe Zamudio, who showed up to buy smokes and stayed to help stop carnage. "He was ready for war."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1Ady1MKPA
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    Another nut job.

    I feel so sad for the innocent people taken in his path of lunacy. Taking out people because his mind betrays him, nothing new there. I just wish these people would off themselves and themselves alone, instead of leaving a trail of dead and heartbreak. The youngest victim Christina Taylor-Green, 9yo. My god, my heart goes out to the family. I feel for ALL the victims dead and barely alive, but most for the parents who lost such a precious child. To be blessed with her birth on a day of tragedy only to be taken so senselessly. I cannot fully imagine the horror, the rage the desperate sense of loss and grief. My deepest sympathies.

    I hope the rep. Gifford and victims still clinging to life make a full recovery.
    Rest in peace littlest Christina Taylor-Green and all others who died over madness.
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    This tragedy, unfortunately, will be taken advantage of politically. The anti2A are piping up, and I see a few handgun bans or limitations coming up. It looks like the representatives are also beefing up their personal security forces.
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    I was watching the news last night. I couldn't believe how composed that little girl's parents were when they were being interviewed about her. I kind of doubt the shooter's Army disqualification story, though enlistment quotas can be pretty different depending on location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62julietandvoid View Post
    I was watching the news last night. I couldn't believe how composed that little girl's parents were when they were being interviewed about her. I kind of doubt the shooter's Army disqualification story, though enlistment quotas can be pretty different depending on location.
    I would guess that the Army saw he was out of whack. Last I heard, the recruiters were falling short on their quotas, and were signing, pretty much every warm body they could get in their doorway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 62julietandvoid View Post
    I kind of doubt the shooter's Army disqualification story, though enlistment quotas can be pretty different depending on location.
    Why would you doubt it? The Army itself says he was rejected (although won't say why due to privacy laws).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    Why would you doubt it? The Army itself says he was rejected (although won't say why due to privacy laws).
    Oh I didn't hear that when I was watching the news. I just heard them say the gunman said he was rejected because he pissed hot for marijuana and they labeled him a drug user. I inadvertently failed my very first drug test by coming up hot for pot even after i stopped smoking for about 30 days. They just made me wait 30 more days,lol.

    But then again I was turned away from the Army a year earlier simply because I had a G.E.D. and not the respectable high school diploma. They'd reached their quotas for us at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post

    "I was the suspenders, they were the belt, you know?
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    I <3 Patricia Maisch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinablue View Post
    Well, it didn't take much time for Fred Phelps to wet his pants in excitement over this horrible event; I'll bet he's having multiple holy orgasms. It seems God sent a hitman to take out Rep. Giffords and all the other innocent victims of the Arizona shooting! He can barely control his glee over the bloodshed, and is making plans to picket every funeral so the rest of us damned-to-hell heathens can see what awaits those who don't listen to Fred Phel...I mean God. There's video at this link: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...ro-spits-again

    Is it just me or does he really look like the 'Tall Man' in Phantasm?
    This guy is a straight up POS! I despise everything he does. The ugly part is that I have to agree that he has the freedom to say what he does. The beautiful part is there are ways to shield these families from his antics without violating my beliefs. The Patriot Guard has my deepest respect, and at times sympathy, for trying to put a fence between his group and the grieving!!!! IDK if you girls/guys ead about their latest venture into this state. IIRC someone slashed the tires on their van, although that is bullshit in itself, they found no sympathy from the people that sell tires here!
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    The 6 killed:

    • Christina Taylor Green
    • Dorothy Morris
    • Gabe Zimmerman
    • Dorwin Stoddard
    • Phyllis Schneck
    • Judge John Roll



    Christina Taylor Green, 9


    The granddaughter of former New York Yankees and Mets manager Dallas Green and daughter of John Green, a scout for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Born on Sept. 11, 2001, she had recently been elected to the student council at her school and was brought by a neighbor to meet Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
    --------------------------------------------------------


    Dorothy Morris, 76


    A retiree who hailed from the Reno, Nevada area, Morris had attended the political event with her husband, George, 76, a retired United Airlines pilot. He was also shot and remains in critical condition. The parents of two daughters were high school sweethearts and had been married for more than 50 years.
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    Gabe Zimmerman, 30


    A dedicated Giffords staffer who worked for the congresswoman since she was elected in 2006. A Tucson native, Zimmerman dealt with constituent issues and worked closely at Giffords' side. He was engaged to be married to a nurse and was an avid hiker and runner.
    --------------------------------------------------------


    Dorwin Stoddard, 76


    A deeply devoted Christian, Stoddard, was a long-time minister at the tiny Mountain Avenue Church of Christ. He and his wife, Marvanell, 'really liked' Gifford and had gone to meet her, church official said. Stoddard was killed shielding his wife from the gunfire. She was hit in the legs and is expected to survive
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    Phyllis Schneck, 79


    A snowbird who hailed from Rutherford, NJ, Schneck was a retired librarian and homemaker who loved to knit and often would make Jets and Giants aprons to sell at church fund-raisers, relatives said. Schneck had retired to Arizona with her late husband Ernest in 2000 and spent eight months a year there. A Gifford supporter, she went to the event to speak to the congresswoman.
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    Judge John Roll , 63


    A native of Pennsylvania, Roll was a federal judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona. He began his career as a bailiff in Pima County Superior Court and rose to be chief judge for the District of Arizona, a position he held since 2006.

    In the 1990s, he was among several federal judges who ruled that the Brady gun law's requirement for a records check by local authorities violates the Constitutional's 10th Amendment.



    He is survived by his wife, Maureen, three sons, and five grandchildren.
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    DSC, thank you so much for posting all the pictures. I just hope the rest of the victims pull through.

    I noticed that every person who died reminds me of someone I know.
    I heard that the the child was there with a neighbor to met Gifford.
    The parents found out about the shooting and her death at the hospital.

    I haven't heard anything on the parents of this sick fuck. I don't envy their position.
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    Check out this crazy fuck's mugshot:

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    Father of Shooting Suspect May Issue Statement


    TUCSON, Ariz.—The father of shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner has prepared and may release a public statement, according to a neighbor who met with Mr. Loughner's parents Monday.
    Randy and Amy Loughner disappeared from view shortly after the shootings, and a statement would be the family's first public comments since the attack.


    Even in normal times, many on his block describe the elder Mr. Loughner as a reclusive man who had little time for neighborhood niceties.
    Few people besides law-enforcement officers have been spotted entering the family home. Neighbor Wayne Smith did so on Monday evening, after he said Mr. Loughner asked him to bring in the mail.
    Mr. Smith emerged to tell a small group of reporters that Randy Loughner had written a statement but isn't sure when to release it. Mr. Loughner is reluctant to greet the public and will try to coordinate the release through the local sheriff's office, Mr. Smith said.


    "They're hurting real bad," Mr. Smith said, outside the house, in a neighborhood north of Tucson amid a flat carpet of strip malls and low subdivisions. "They are devastated."
    Officials say Mr. Loughner had psychological problems and plotted his attack, which killed six people, gravely wounded congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and injured 13 others.
    Mr. Loughner's parents have been unreachable since. The parents told investigators they didn't realize the severity of their son's problems, say people familiar with the matter.
    The Loughners' single-level ranch house stands out on the quiet and open block: its entire front is shrouded by shrubbery—a billowing mesquite, a cactus with droopy paddles and a stunted palm whose fronds shield a street-facing window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheart View Post
    Check out this crazy fuck's mugshot:

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    He's fucking smiling!
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    I heard some comments on the ABC news tonight that made my blood boil. Some people are calling for more civil political discourse, and some are condemning talk radio for inciting wacko fucks like this into violent acts. So I guess eventually we wont be able to publicly disagree or debate anything because it might send somebody over the edge. What the hell are we coming to? All you have to do is look at the mugshot to see he was unstable to begin with, and that's putting it mildly. I honestly thought he was in his late 30's. Or we could start a program for backward loners so they can meet people and get laid. Nobody has to take responsibility for their actions anymore. It's all bullshit.
    the future's uncertain and the end is always near...

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