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    – Both Adkins and Billie Dunn apparently held an ongoing, intense fascination with horrific films and brutal crimes. Seized in a box in their bedroom were numerous documents, some fictional and some past crimes, that covered such topics such as serial killers, ax murders, sexual sadistic activities, the occult, sex and death topics, motives for murder and mass murderers – including the killing of family members.
    Shit, if someone looked through the books at my house, or did a history search on my pc, they would think I was a murderer too.
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    The affidavits can be found here.

    I think we're back to Zahra Baker territory with this case. It's time to stop wasting community time and resources when one or two people just need to cojone up and start talking.

    I own a blowtorch, just sayin'.

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    I think before I ran across D'D, this kind of shit would have made me say "Oh my!". Now it makes me laugh. I can just imagine what they would gasp about if I did a dirty deed and they read some of my comments on here.
    An affidavit states Shawn Adkins, the boyfriend of the mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, has an obsession with horror and slasher movies and is a collector of movie memorabilia connected with the “Halloween” movie series.

    His profile on Michael-Myers.net details his fascination with the films. The site includes forums where members can discuss horror movie topics.
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    Adkins is a frequent commenter on the Michael-Myers.net. The site lists more than 600 comments under his membership name -- unconscious_mind78.

    His membership goes back several years and at times makes reference to violent acts. In 2007, for example, he discussed being single, and said, “My last girlfriend broke my heart so I broke her jaw.”

    He posted on another forum, “I came to find that my fascination with the Halloween Series to be an obsession more than a hobby.”

    In a post about the horror film Friday the 13th, he commented, “The movie could have been a bit more violent and brutal but nonetheless the kills in the movie were terrific and as far as scary…It scared the (expletive deleted) out of me a few good times.”

    Another post details additional thoughts on killing.

    “I also think Hannibal Lector and Patrick Bateman (American Pyscho) are original killers...” he said on the site. “They both have a sick and twisted view of life...But they also can put on this mask of sanity fooling everyone into thinking they are somewhat normal ppl...”
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    OMG and LOL, I just got the banhammer from the Help Find Hailey Dunn Facebook page.

    Apparently the admin gets cranky if you say that opportunistic pedophile trumps horror movies and Michael Myers masks. Damn.

    ETA: So I got all impish, like I do, and I drafted a front page update. But since I'm too lazy to make pictures the right size and optimize the damn search engines and stuff, Jaded might be nice to be and put it up tomorrow if I offer her special favors. And Morbid's ass called me while he was soldering or some shit, IDEK.

    And Hailey? Still missing. Still, sadly and probably, dead. Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn, you suck.
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    I have to admit I laughed at the part of the affidavit summary where they were all "oh, they had BOOKS about SERIAL KILLERS and SEX and DEATH and COLD CASES OMG" because I have tons of that shit lying around my house. But then, my kids aren't missing or dead, so.
    I was glad Nancy Grace cut the psychologist off before she could say what she was going to say about people who look at that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by impqueen View Post
    OMG and LOL, I just got the banhammer from the Help Find Hailey Dunn Facebook page.

    Apparently the admin gets cranky if you say that opportunistic pedophile trumps horror movies and Michael Myers masks. Damn.

    ETA: So I got all impish, like I do, and I drafted a front page update. But since I'm too lazy to make pictures the right size and optimize the damn search engines and stuff, Jaded might be nice to be and put it up tomorrow if I offer her special favors. And Morbid's ass called me while he was soldering or some shit, IDEK.

    And Hailey? Still missing. Still, sadly and probably, dead. Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn, you suck.
    As you know, my dearest imp, I too got banned. LMAO Apparently you must agree with everything the administrator says. o.O
    Those who listen to metal music, watch slasher movies and have rough sex are apparently murdering bastards. Ummm that is according to that facebook page. How sad that instead of incorporating multiple opinions and ideas from all types of folks, they squelch truthful facts. Such a pity.
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    I'm hopeful that Hailey will be found, and soon. I hope she's found alive, although that's looking like a slim possibility at this point. Either way, that community needs to know what happened, and Hailey (or her memory) needs a little justice. What Hailey doesn't need is to be smeared with the cult murder brush. That is insulting to her, and covers up the very real horror of what she may have suffered at the hands of Shawn Adkins.

    Case update on DD front page here
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    Quote Originally Posted by impqueen View Post
    The affidavits can be found here.

    I think we're back to Zahra Baker territory with this case. It's time to stop wasting community time and resources when one or two people just need to cojone up and start talking.

    I own a blowtorch, just sayin'.
    I was thinking the same thing about the Zahara parallel, it is so sad, hers just gets pretty much solved and now here we go again, what a fucking roller coaster ride, Jesus!
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    After watching NG last night, which I rarely do anymore and I don't know what made me watch it last night. However, it was really the first time of hearing any information on Hailey Dunn. What I gather after NG asking the mom certain questions is the 1st and I think the 2nd polygraph test the BF took he had taken an anti-anxiety medication and so he couldn't take the test. So she made sure he didn't take it again then there was discrepancy in the 3rd, I believe that's what was stated but she is really such a quiet person and doesn't go into detail it was hard to understand her. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

    NG then asks her when the last time she really saw Hailey, she responds with definitely 10:00 p.m. Sunday night watching TV. Then says she peeked in around 6:00 a.m. the next morning but I believe the covers were over her but she assumed she was under them but never actually saw her. Now in regards to the one neighbor who was a man and she did give his first name but can't remember it, he told her he had seen Hailey that Monday at noon time. But NG stated the police can't confirm that and asked her what is your response. Mom says that's what he told me and said he was going to tell the police. NG then says well the police can't confirm it so actually the last time you saw your daughter was at 10:00 p.m. Sunday night, because you weren't definite about the next morning. Mom said that is correct.

    Now it was mentioned her son came home from school that day and was banging on the door to be let in and no one answered the door. He found a way to get in and commented apparently that the boyfriend was sitting there with a strange look in his eyes. (Not sure how it was actually worded). Very strange to me why he didn't let him in.

    I have to say mom looks very young her self, timid, scared and has no clue what to do. It was stated the BF has a lawyer but the mom doesn't. My personal opinion was immediately the BF definitely knows something.

    Now, I just hope that nothing ever happens to anyone close to me because my interests are the DD, horror movies, books, crime shows example, 48 hrs. Snapped ect., mystery shows, books, they sure would have a field day with that.

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    Hailey Dunn, the Texas girl missing for nearly three weeks, was scared of her mother's boyfriend Shawn Adkins, and said he would stand in the doorway of her bedroom at night watching her.

    "Hailey did not like him. She was afraid of him and she didn't want him there," Hailey's paternal grandmother, Connie Jones, told ABCNews.com today.

    Adkins, 25, was called one of several persons of interest on Wednesday by investigators in Colorado City, Texas. He was the live-in boyfriend of her mother, Billie Dunn. The couple is reportedly no longer together in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance.
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    Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

    "She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

    Hailey's grandmother said she prays that Dunn was not involved in Hailey's disappearance.

    "I don't want her to be involved because she's the mother of my grandkids and they love her," Jones said.
    [...]

    "Ever since this has happened, he's been my top priority as a suspect. I've just always had an eerie feeling about him...just a gut feeling that he's not a trustworthy person," Jones said.
    [...]

    Adkins took three polygraph exams. The first two times, he walked out of the room before the test was completed. The third time, he was found to be deceptive during the first part of the exam. During the second stage of the exam, Adkins revealed that Hailey might be in Scurry County, Texas. Investigators deemed him to be telling the truth. When pressed about a more precise location for the girl, Adkins refused to complete the test, according to the affidavit. Kampfer said that investigators have searched Scurry County.

    Investigators said that Adkins has given contradictory statements about the day Hailey disappeared.

    Adkins also told investigators that he was fired from his job the day Hailey disappeared. Adkins worked for a company that does oil well casing and logging. His boss, however, told investigators that he wasn't fired, but abruptly left work minutes after showing up, according to the affidavit.

    Adkins told investigators that he drove straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, Texas. Cell phone records show Adkins making calls from Dunn's home between 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., the court papers state.

    Dunn left for work as a receptionist at a hospital at 6:20 a.m.

    "According to all reports, Hailey Dunn would have been alone in the residence during this time period,"
    the affidavit said.

    Adkins eventually went to the home of his mother and used her computer. That computer has been taken as evidence, the affidavit said.

    On the evening of Hailey's disappearance, Dunn and Adkins reportedly withdrew money from two banks to buy drugs, according to the affidavit.

    There are also claims that the couple had a New Year's party, just days after the 13-year-old girl disappeared, according to the affidavit.

    Dunn denied that, telling the Associated Press that just a few friends came over for drinks.

    Dunn told the Associated Press that she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. She said that she asked Adkins to move out Jan. 5.

    "If investigators can't rule him out, I can't either," Dunn told the AP. "I'm unsure at this point."
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    Adkins told investigators that he drove straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, Texas. Cell phone records show Adkins making calls from Dunn's home between 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., the court papers state.

    Dunn left for work as a receptionist at a hospital at 6:20 a.m.
    Oh my gosh. Where my mind just went with that one. As soon as mom left he attacked her? Wonder when he showed up at work and what time he was actually supposed to be there.

    I also noticed last night when they showed video of her room, there were no sheets on the bed and the bed was covered enough with clothes. It looked staged. But why it would be that way I don't know. I think that the mom would've told NG it if they took it.
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    According to this timeline: http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...dunn_timeline/ he left work at 6:10
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    Okay, new theory. But kind of old theory with new detail.

    I'm pretty set that Shawn Adkins killed Hailey in a rape gone wrong. But Billie Dunn is saying she peeked in on Hailey "to ease her mind" before she left for work on December 27. By that night, she needed drugs. Ostensibly she did not know at that time that Hailey was missing - Hailey was reported missing the next day.

    Shawn had at least three calls on his phone to Billie's phone that were deleted in the presence of investigators, as stated in the affidavit to search his phone and records for same. We don't have a timeline on the calls, but we do have the phone pings. Billie's phone was also the one used by Hailey, and was left at home on the 27th for Hailey to use. There is a short time frame where Shawn and Hailey were possibly both in the house, just the two of them, from just before 7:00 am 12/27 to whenever he left for Big Spring - probably around 8:30, based on his cell activity. Keep in mind that the last time Hailey was seen by anyone other than Shawn or Billie was 9 pm 12/26.

    I think that Billie went to bed first, and Shawn was hitting on Hailey after that time. Hailey was known to dislike Shawn and had voiced fear of him according to her grandmother. She may have spent several weeks at her dad's, coming home on the 26th. So it's her first night home. I think Billie heard something, but may have already taken some drugs, and wasn't really able or willing to get up to see what was going on. So the next morning, she's feeling a little uneasy. She opens Hailey's door and thinks she sees Hailey in bed, but it's dark, so she's not sure. Rather than waking her daughter, she goes on to work, because denial seems to be what Billie does best. Whatever she heard, it wasn't good.

    Shawn goes to work but knows he can't stay there. The son, David, will be home later. He stays at work long enough to clock in and grab a soda, then leaves. His cell phone places him back at the Dunn house by 7:00.

    I think Hailey was killed or hurt in the course of attempted rape during the night of the 26th. Shawn hid the body between Colorado City and Big Spring between 7:00 and 9:30 am, when his cell pinged off his mom's tower, on the 27th.

    He stayed there all day, collecting himself and getting his story straight. He may have called Billie to find out what she knew during that time - eleven calls were made on his phone. He left Big Spring at 2:38, but by shortly after 3:00 he was home and not answering the door. I think he was cleaning up residual evidence when David came in through a window and surprised him. By 6:20, Shawn and Billie were getting out drug money in Snyder.

    Long story short: Shawn hurt and/or killed Hailey Dec. 26th after 9 pm or early on Dec. 27. He disposed of her body that morning after Billie went to work. Billie knows now that what she heard was her daughter's last defense and possible murder, and she knows she should have gotten up or called the police. I still don't think she killed Hailey, but I think she knows she might as well have.

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    The paternal grandmother reports that Hailey thought the guy was creepy, she was afraid he'd come in to her room someday. Dad lives across the street.
    I can't imagine grandmother not telling her son how his daughter felt about this guy.

    Wonder why she did not live with dad.
    Dear Mommy...I see you smile down there below...are those tears of joy you show? I'm glad you're happy, although you lied...I'd love to be right by your side...but by your choice, I view from above...tell my Grandparents I send my love...it's Beautiful here, is all I can say...your life will go on... without me in your way. Love Caylee XOXO......
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    @Rockin Ma - Maybe the cops took the sheets to look for evidence. Also I saw an interview where Billie Dunn said someone cleaned up Hailey's room a bit, picking up & folding the clothes.
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    Do you think after the Duckett thing NG is going easy on her? I say this because she answers all the questions, but they are simple short answers, like yes no, she doesn't volunteer any information. Seems like many more questions would be answered if they were just asked. Was that a coherent post?
    Dear Mommy...I see you smile down there below...are those tears of joy you show? I'm glad you're happy, although you lied...I'd love to be right by your side...but by your choice, I view from above...tell my Grandparents I send my love...it's Beautiful here, is all I can say...your life will go on... without me in your way. Love Caylee XOXO......
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    I don't bother with NG. She makes my teeth feel like they have chalk on them.
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    I watched her all the time before Caylee. She used to dedicate like 15 minutes of the hour to different people every night and I really enjoyed her getting the missing persons and victims out there. It's changed much since then, but I suppose I still watch because of that and in a case like this where the mom has spent a lot of time on there answering questions.
    Dear Mommy...I see you smile down there below...are those tears of joy you show? I'm glad you're happy, although you lied...I'd love to be right by your side...but by your choice, I view from above...tell my Grandparents I send my love...it's Beautiful here, is all I can say...your life will go on... without me in your way. Love Caylee XOXO......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    Do you think after the Duckett thing NG is going easy on her? I say this because she answers all the questions, but they are simple short answers, like yes no, she doesn't volunteer any information. Seems like many more questions would be answered if they were just asked. Was that a coherent post?
    I haven't watched NG tonight but on the previous shows I did think she went pretty easy on Billie. I don't think it's because of the Duckett case though, I think Nancy doesn't believe Billie is guilty. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    The paternal grandmother reports that Hailey thought the guy was creepy, she was afraid he'd come in to her room someday. Dad lives across the street.
    I can't imagine grandmother not telling her son how his daughter felt about this guy.

    Wonder why she did not live with dad.
    Clint Dunn was arrested for drugs (weed, I think) shortly after Christmas and spent a day or two in jail. So depending on the timing, it may have been that Hailey had to go home because her daddy was in jail and the new girlfriend had things to take care of with her child, so Hailey went home. I need to check the timing of that arrest. Otherwise it's probable that Hailey's visit was over and Billie wanted her home for awhile.

    ETA: Ignore me. He was arrested for under two ounces of weed on December 30, after Hailey disappeared. So that's not why Hailey wasn't still at Clint's house.
    Last edited by impqueen; January 14th, 2011 at 09:58 AM.

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    I made myself watch NG last night for awhile. Holy cats, that woman. Anyway.

    Billie Dunn's facial and body language is all over the place. She looks young and wide eyed and helpless and pretty (and stupid) and it made me want to believe her - but she's inconsistent, and she appears deceptive. She has tells all over the place - nose rubbing, inability to look at the camera for long, eyes flitting every direction. And frankly, she looks too good - far better than I would expect the mother of a missing child to look after three weeks of hell. She appears relatively rested, her hair's been touched up. I am pretty sure that even in a full face of makeup, I would look like unslept hell and I would not be taking the time to get mah hair did, but that's just me.

    I see Billie as incredibly self centered, and very concerned about what people think of her. I still don't think she killed her child - but I think she knows a good bit more than she's telling. And I don't think Nancy believes her - Nancy's face when Billie stumbled through non-answers was worth seeing. I just think Nancy is on the fence, and Nancy's lawyers would not like to settle another Melinda Duckett case.

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    http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/...s-abilene-dump

    Cadaver dogs have hit in an area of the Abilene city dump where Colorado City's trash is taken. The site is being searched now.

    ETA:I have emailed the Colorado City Record to ask whether there is an actual confirmed hit at the site, as they are the only news outlet so far reporting one. I also asked whether they can confirm their source came from inside the investigation.No answer as yet.
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    ABILENE, Texas -- Search authorities are using cadaver dogs from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to search Abilene's landfill north of town Friday in its ongoing search for missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.
    A number of search personnel could be seen moving about at the landfill via the KTXS tower camera, also located on the northern edge of Abilene.
    Abilene Police confirmed that members of the Criminal Investigation Division are at the landfill, assisting in the search for Hailey Dunn.
    Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer confirmed to KTXS News that cadaver dogs for the TDCJ were being used.
    He also confirmed that this was not the first search of an area landfill. Searchers have also gone through the Colorado City landfill as well as others – as part of their ongoing search for Hailey.
    It was also learned by KTXS that Colorado City trash is regularly transported to the larger landfill in Abilene.
    http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news...86/detail.html

    COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Electric tape, evidence filters and debris on a sterile sheet were among the items seized from the trunk of Billie Jean Dunn's car last Friday.
    KTXS reported the seizure of that car on Jan. 7.
    Inventory sheets from investigators have been returned to the Mitchell County Judge Ray Mayo. These were obtained today by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act.
    Investigators must legally submit what was taken after using a search warrant.
    The following property was seized from the Dunn's white 2000 Chevrolet Lumina:
    – Two rolls of black electrical tape
    – One plastic purple cigarette lighter
    – Six 3M trace evidence collection filters with trace evidence from vehicle
    – Miscellaneous papers
    – One sterile sheet with debris from trunk of vehicle.
    A sterile sheet if often used by law enforcement to collect evidence without contaminating it. It's not known why those items were taken, and the Texas Rangers have been very tight-lipped as the investigation into Hailey Dunn's disappearance continues.
    http://www.ktxs.com/news/26495026/detail.html
    Dear Mommy...I see you smile down there below...are those tears of joy you show? I'm glad you're happy, although you lied...I'd love to be right by your side...but by your choice, I view from above...tell my Grandparents I send my love...it's Beautiful here, is all I can say...your life will go on... without me in your way. Love Caylee XOXO......
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    Dear Mommy...I see you smile down there below...are those tears of joy you show? I'm glad you're happy, although you lied...I'd love to be right by your side...but by your choice, I view from above...tell my Grandparents I send my love...it's Beautiful here, is all I can say...your life will go on... without me in your way. Love Caylee XOXO......
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    I'd like to see some theories flying in this case. I know there are people who are convinced she is alive (okay, prolly not a ton on this site but c'mon) and those who think something else happened. Plus, I'm kinda bored.

    Bueller?

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    Well I think we're probably all pretty much in agreement that Shawn had something to do with it but some people might question Billie's involvement. I for one don't think she was involved. I'm not sure whether I believe she knew anything inappropriate was going on. Her drug use is still a big question mark for me; I'd like to know the real story on that as in: what and how much was she using? If she was in a drug induced fog most of the time then all kinds of things could have been going on right under her nose with her unaware.

    Also curious if Hailey wanted to stay at her father's house often, to get away from Shawn.
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    Hell, I dunno.

    On the one I'm all "definitely dead." The timeline lines up for me. Honestly, she totally could be in that landfill, or out in the brush somewhere between Colorado City and Big Spring. I used to have family in Big Spring and there is just a lot of land to cover - about 40 miles worth, a lot of it pretty remote.

    And in the vain hope category, what if she's not? If Hailey is alive, where the actual hell is she and why is she gone?

    IF Hailey is alive, then my theory of Shawn as bastard hebephile stands. I think that by now other suspects would have been identified. But where did she go? Who's hiding her? I have no damn idea, which leads me back to Occam and his stupid razor. And I really cannot get a good bead on Billie. She looks Xanaxed to me, and that jacks up affect in a big way. I can't tell, and I think that's frustrating a lot of people.

    Also: Nancy Grace pissed me off once and I've never gotten over it. Grating, that one.

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    Oh, media. Really?

    http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331676


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    Guns, knives, and drugs plastered all over the internet with Shawn Adkins face.
    With the recent discovery of some youtube videos, tt appears the suspect is heavily involved with these types of activities.
    A warning, some of the sites and sounds of the video you are about to see may be disturbing to some viewers.
    Some new images of what appears to be Shawn Adkins getting high on a boat. Facebook users say they are disturbed with what they see.

    In a seperate youtube video, it appears that Adkins is holding a giant knife with some type of animal heart in the opposite hand. The text on top of this image includes profanity, but basically says, "If you mess with us...We'll remove your heart."
    "What it looked like to me was two kids were playing trying to act as if they were bad," says Dr. Marc Orner.

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    Oh for fuck's sake. Guns and knives? Owned by a guy who lives in rural Colorado where people hunt and shit? Oooooh, shocking!

    Sorry. I still think that she's dead and he's responsible. But not because he owns weapons.
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