Olivia Ramirez thinks her 19 month old son is a demon

[Sister Iroz]

A teenage mother is in jail, accused of abusing her toddler. Detectives with Kirby Police Department say the young mom believes her son is a demon.

Olivia Ramirez, 19, is charged with injury to a child. Ramirez is accused of biting her 19-month-old son.

Kirby Police were called to a house on Bill Anders on Tuesday where Ramirez's family reported seeing teeth marks on the little boy's left thigh.

"For the many, many years that I've been a police officer I've never seen anyone take a bite out of a child for any reason," said Detective Wes Swearingen of the Kirby Police Department.

The biting is not the only abuse witnesses reported to police. Investigators say Ramirez even threw her son on the ground in front of several family members.

"She for some reason has said that she believes the child is a demon, and has referred to him as a devil," said Det. Swearingen.

News 4 WOAI found out Ramirez was also arrested for viciously attacking her son back in June, 2009. She was indicted for that biting attack in March 2010.

"The gruesomeness of this is just appalling," said Det. Swearingen.

Police say when they arrested Ramirez this week, her son had obvious signs of abuse, and her 5-month-old daughter showed signs of neglect.

Ramirez remains in jail on a $50,000 bond. The children are being cared for by relatives, according to investigators.

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story...AA.cspx?rss=68

[Robynne]

Wow, my 2 year old has started biting. He bit me on the leg yesterday, and he bit his 6 month old brother on his finger this morning. A friend of mine seems to think that biting them back is what you are supposed to do. Some people feel this way.
But, IT IS NOT OKAY TO BITE YOUR CHILD!!!!!
My 2 year old is very hyper. He's destructive, and wants what he wants. He is not the Devil. He is not a demon.
This chick need to be locked up in a loony bin, and never let back out. If she is for some reason allowed to be around other people. Tie her shit up, and put her on a myriad of meds.
I hate baby beaters/killers/molesters/and anything else you can do to hurt a child.

[Tundratot]

This story is encouraging. Her family actually reported the abuse. That means they didn't condone it, or model it, or even just wring their hands about it.

She is unstable and should never have had children. What a nightmare for those babies!

BTW, every time I see one of these stories where they state that the parent refers to the child as a demon or a devil, I laugh. I call my children "devil child" all the time. Of course, I say it with total love and the kids know it. No one seems to think it remarkable.

[Silvahalo]

Robynne, my now 7 yo went thru a very bad biting stage when he was around 3 yo, strange how he would bite my husband but never me, threaten me but never actually bit me. It was so bad but I never felt like biting him back was a solution as I know some think, and if that seems to work for them, OK I guess. He was punished by timing him out, which he hated and withheld stuff he adored, special toys, etc. It took a while but he finally stopped.

The very idea that this woman calls her son a devil is disgusting. And neglecting her 5 month old too? she's the one that sounds demonic. How evil to bite a child over something that she conjured up in her sick mind, and viciously attacking him too. All I can say to that is I hope the fear she put in her own child she finds in prison. What a useless woman. Close up the snatch call it out of order.

Heal little one completely.

[brokenandtwisted]

What? She was arrested for 'viciously attacking' the kid last year...? And in March? And she still has the kid?

I don't think I am reading this correctly.

[TKaz]

First, it was obvious this woman is an abuser as not only did she bite but she neglected & threw as well.

However, I did bite my oldest during her biting stage. She kept getting thrown out of daycare for it & my boss told me if I had to leave again I'd need to look for another job. I was single & desperate. NOW.....as horrible as I sound now I do need to point out I did not redden or break the skin. It was the psychology of it. She bit my arm, I bit her arm. She threw herself on the floor and cried...it never happened again. It was the ACT...not PAIN. As there was no pain to be had because I did not bite down.
There I said it. Please don't burn me at the stake.

Since the family turned her in....I hope it's safe to assume they will have responsible, loving family to take them in.

[Tundratot]

When my daughter was a preschooler, she bit me once. She had decided she didn't want to leave the school when I came to pick her up, so this time she struggled like a wild animal. After she bit me, she did get an attention grabbing swat on the butt and backed into a corner while I loomed over her.

I had read that, rather than bite them yourself to show them how painful it is (certainly what my mom and MIL would have done), you should put their own teeth against their own skin. So I did. Of course, she didn't bite herself, but she decided never to try biting again.

[Silvahalo]

First, it was obvious this woman is an abuser as not only did she bite but she neglected & threw as well.

However, I did bite my oldest during her biting stage. She kept getting thrown out of daycare for it & my boss told me if I had to leave again I'd need to look for another job. I was single & desperate. NOW.....as horrible as I sound now I do need to point out I did not redden or break the skin. It was the psychology of it. She bit my arm, I bit her arm. She threw herself on the floor and cried...it never happened again. It was the ACT...not PAIN. As there was no pain to be had because I did not bite down.
There I said it. Please don't burn me at the stake.

Since the family turned her in....I hope it's safe to assume they will have responsible, loving family to take them in.

I agree with this. I know some will frown completely on it, but for some kiddo's you just have to make a direct point...err, or bite. Had my son been biting me, I might have taken the same approach. I left hubs to decide as he was the one getting bit he went about it a diff way but he did threaten at times to bite him back, lol. Good thing at the end it all worked out.

[TKaz]

You saying you let your husband decide reminded me of another time....

My teething male cousin came up & bit my stepdad RIGHT on his junk. Stepdad pulled my cousin up, up-side down & gave him a quick butt swat. This was during Sunday dinner & all the cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents were enjoying themselves & silence just dropped over the room. Cousin never bit again. Being about 7 I was actually happy because that meant my cousin stopped biting me too! ;)

[VXIII]

[QUOTE=TKaz;465747]First, it was obvious this woman is an abuser as not only did she bite but she neglected & threw as well.

However, I did bite my oldest during her biting stage. She kept getting thrown out of daycare for it & my boss told me if I had to leave again I'd need to look for another job. I was single & desperate. NOW.....as horrible as I sound now I do need to point out I did not redden or break the skin. It was the psychology of it. She bit my arm, I bit her arm. She threw herself on the floor and cried...it never happened again. It was the ACT...not PAIN. As there was no pain to be had because I did not bite down.
There I said it. Please don't burn me at the stake.

It all depends how you do it... it worked and you sound like a good mother

[AngelFire]

A huge croc should come and bite her in the ass, gobble her right up

[tenntitanfan]

My mother got a call from my daughter's daycare once. They told her that my daughter just went crazy and bit every child in her class! They said they tried putting soap in her mouth and she liked it and ate part of the soap so they wanted to know what they should do with her next. I was traveling on business and in New York in a business meeting when I was told I had an emergency phone call from my mother. I told her to tell the director of the daycare center to just tell her she was being a bad girl and put her in the corner for a few minutes and that would take care of it. It worked. My daughter hated to be embarrassed even at an early age and calling her a bad girl in front of other children and then making her stand in the corner in front of other children was a guarantee to straighten her out.
Despite what the daycare may have thought...she really didn't go crazy, she was just mad.

[momof3]

I am still a little confused how she was charged with attacking her then 2 month old in June but still had custody? Really? This has to be a typo or the same incident and we r just now reading the coverage of the June 09 abuse.

[Arallyn]

This story is encouraging. Her family actually reported the abuse. That means they didn't condone it, or model it, or even just wring their hands about it.

Thiiiiiss. I still might ask who she learned that biting was ok from, but she's not a fucking 7-year-old who just learned how to give a kid a wedgie. Some people just really shouldn't be parents.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

According to an arrest warrant, a relative told KPD that Ramirez physically abused her own son on Oct. 23. The woman reportedly told investigators his mother bit him so hard on his left thigh a bruise with visible teeth marks could be seen. Plus, the relative claims Ramirez admitted to biting the child.

The family allegedly believes the suspect has a temper and can be violent because of a bipolar diagnosis, according to the warrant. In fact, the relative didn't immediately report the alleged injury to police because of emotional conflicts.
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The arrest document does not say how she gained access to the boy that day. Nor does the document explain the extent of Ramirez's custody of the alleged victim.

http://www.kens5.com/news/Kirby-teen...106682368.html

[Pete Bondurant]

Set this childe demon alight!