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    This reminded me of the Teresa Knorr case: "None of Knorr's children were spared her physical, verbal, and psychological abuse. However, Knorr had a special hatred for her daughters Suesan and Sheila, fueled by jealousy that the girls were growing up and blossoming into young women while she faced the prospect of growing old and losing her looks, according to an interview with her surviving daughter, Terry, in an episode of A&E's Cold Case Files (titled "Mommy's Rules"). For years, Knorr abused and tortured her children in various ways, including burning them with cigarettes and beating them. Knorr focused her anger primarily on her daughters and trained her sons to beat, discipline, and restrain their sisters." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Knorr

    I feel real sorry for this little girl. But I'm like Jessiesgirl, why bother starving her and strapping her in the car seat and try to kill her if your going to get her to the hospital unresponsive to try to save her. I'm glad people on this site do this instead of hiding the bodies, but I still don't understand the logic. I guess they just don't see what they are doing is wrong in their twisted sick minds?????
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    Beckley Mom Accused of Abusing Child Appears for Preliminary Hearing
    Detectives say Sabrina Coronet-Smith's 6-year-old daughter suffered multiple bruises, sores and malnutrition.
    BECKLEY -- Sabrina Coronet-Smith, 41, took the stand before Magistrate Rick Jones around 9:30 a.m. Thursday.
    Smith and her roommate, Amanda Wills, 30, were arrested last month on charges of child abuse, neglect and attempted murder of a child by a parent or guardian.
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    Wills waived her right to a preliminary hearing, but Magistrate Jones heard testimony Thursday from child protective workers, Beckley Police Capt. Jeff Shumate and more.

    Jones found probable cause and says the case will be presented to the grand jury in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkprints View Post
    That poor little girl ..I hope and pray there is NEVER a reunion.
    I hope there is. So she can break her mother's ankles, rip out her tongue and lock her in a room to starve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenandtwisted View Post
    I hope there is. So she can break her mother's ankles, rip out her tongue and lock her in a room to starve.
    Such violence. I likes it!

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    I can never understand why these Bitches who starve their children are usually obese? I mean, what is the deal? They want all the food, but have to at least feed some of the kids? I mean damn. They should make sure these women don't eat for days at a time while they're locked up so that they can see what it feels like to be a skeleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyFyre View Post
    Such violence. I likes it!
    Me? Violent? Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robynne Bales View Post
    I can never understand why these Bitches who starve their children are usually obese? I mean, what is the deal? They want all the food, but have to at least feed some of the kids? I mean damn. They should make sure these women don't eat for days at a time while they're locked up so that they can see what it feels like to be a skeleton.
    It's more than likely is just selfishness. I know people like that. Lord forbid they have to share anything with anybody because that would mean less for them. People like that make me sick. I would starve before I would allow my kids to go hungry.

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    Malnourished W.Va. girl is gaining weight, police say
    BECKLEY, W.Va. (AP) -- A 6-year-old girl who weighed less than 20 pounds when she was brought to a hospital earlier this year is gaining weight, police said.
    The girl has gained at least 13 pounds since entering a foster home, Detective Jeff Shumate said.
    The girl's "progress is just tremendous,'' Shumate told The Charleston Gazette. "Some of the effects (of her situation) might not be known for some time. But right now, everything is very positive.''
    The girl was unresponsive when her mother brought her to Raleigh General Hospital in early September. The newspaper said the girl's core temperature had dropped to 80 degrees and she had an extremely low blood-sugar level.
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    Food was regularly restricted from the girl and she was held at times in a child-safety seat, Shumate said. The seat's padding had been removed and a pressure sore developed on the girl's lower back and upper buttocks.
    The girl also allegedly was forced to sleep sitting up in the seat for nine to 10 hours at a time, Shumate said.
    The girl's condition affected her ability to walk. Shumate said the girl's foster parents reported she now is able to walk some on her own or with the assistance of a walker.
    Five other children who lived with their mother also have been placed in foster care, Shumate said.
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    This is why you should NOT allow fucking Lesbians to have or look after children. Look at them,they are both very obese and dont give one shit about the child. They probably fought over who would eat her food. They only want the welfare money that goes with kids, kinda like the boguns here in Australia.

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    I think that lawyers are the dregs of the earth because they will stand up and lie or accuse an innocent person so that they can be paid,....Disgusting people.

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    I bet lesbian lawyers really piss you off
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamagedGoods View Post
    I bet lesbian lawyers really piss you off
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaingrumpy View Post
    This is why you should NOT allow fucking Lesbians to have or look after children. Look at them,they are both very obese and dont give one shit about the child. They probably fought over who would eat her food. They only want the welfare money that goes with kids, kinda like the boguns here in Australia.
    Yes. Because "fucking Lesbians" are always the ones that do this shit. Never those good heterosexual couples. Are you for fucking real? Or just trolling?
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    Yet know, my master, God omnipotent,
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaingrumpy View Post
    This is why you should NOT allow fucking Lesbians to have or look after children. Look at them,they are both very obese and dont give one shit about the child. They probably fought over who would eat her food. They only want the welfare money that goes with kids, kinda like the boguns here in Australia.
    Thank god they were not " unemployed Jewish wetback surrogate mothers" (ty Tristan Egolf!!) That would have really put the lump in your basket. ...Right? I bet you got a hard on for the aboriginal peoples there.
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    Well, thank God the little girl is walking now, even if it is with the help of a walker! It's very encouraging for her future health and recovery. I hope we get to hear more news of her as this case progresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundratot View Post
    Well, thank God the little girl is walking now, even if it is with the help of a walker! It's very encouraging for her future health and recovery. I hope we get to hear more news of her as this case progresses.
    That soo effed up that she even has to use a walker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misssmartypants View Post
    That soo effed up that she even has to use a walker...
    Yes, but I'm making the broad assumption that this is temporary and she won't need the walker as her muscles gain strength. It's going to take time to get muscle growth, lots of protein for that and brain development, not to mention calcium for the bones. I really want this to work for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaingrumpy View Post
    This is why you should NOT allow fucking Lesbians to have or look after children. Look at them,they are both very obese and dont give one shit about the child. They probably fought over who would eat her food. They only want the welfare money that goes with kids, kinda like the boguns here in Australia.
    I have re-read this entire thread three times and the only time that anyone mentions Lesbians... I mean Fucking Lesbians is you. No where in this article does it state they are a couple - room mates yes a couple no. In this day and age I am sure that if they were really a Lesbian couple, it would be stated by someone other than the "captain" here.

    The point is, it doesn't matter what kind of people they are whether they are Well-to-Do, "BOGUN's (aka redneck hillbillys in the USA), Hetrosexual, Homosexual, Green, Red, Blue... etc... etc..

    WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THERE REALLY IS ONLY TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE: GOOD AND BAD.

    BAD PEOPLE KILL, HURT, RAPE, MUTILATE............ etc...

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    Oh fuck, you mean Healthnet will pay to airlift a child, not without a prior authorization that takes a few weeks?
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    What are boguns... its ok, the girl is doing well in her foster home although that is the last place on earth Id like to see her...
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    Woman awaiting trial arrested

    While on home confinement awaiting trial for child abuse charges in West Virginia, Sabrina Elaine Coronet-Smith was arrested Thursday for being a fugitive from justice after the Union County (Tennessee) Sheriff’s Department pressed charges against her in connection with abuse charges there, according to Capt. Jeff Shumate of the Beckley Police.

    Coronet-Smith, 41, of Berkley Street, was originally charged with three felony counts of child abuse with substantial injury, child neglect with substantial risk of death, and attempted murder of a child by parent, guardian or custodian by refusal or failure to supply necessities after her 6-year-old daughter was rushed to Raleigh General Hospital last year in an unresponsive state, Shumate explained.

    Coronet-Smith was placed on home confinement after being released on bond while awaiting trial for those charges.

    New charges stemming from related investigations in Tennessee include two counts of aggravated child neglect and aggravated child abuse.

    Coronet-Smith previously resided in Tennessee with her husband and children before moving to Beckley, Shumate said. [...]
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    theres a whole lot more at the link but to sum up this lady is a child neglecting/abusing bitch in any state she is in.

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    OK, so was the abuse in Tennessee of the same child? If so, that poor baby is damned lucky to still be alive.

    Neither of these women should ever be around kids again. Fortunately, if they end up in prison, that won't be an issue. I will never understand whatever explanation anyone gives for singling out one of 6 kids to just totally try to abuse to death. I don't want to understand.
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    I like the idea of them being drawn and quartered. 18 lbs? My 5 yo is just under 40 and she has a gymnast's body. I can't imagine how she'd looke at 18 lbs. Sounds like the little girl was just about dead before they sought help for her. It's a miracle she's alive. On a different note, the other kids placed in foster care that participated in the abuse? God be with those foster parents. I can't imagine what THEY are dealing with, especially if there are other kids in the house, which there almost always are.
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    Beckley woman waives extradition to Tennessee


    BECKLEY, W.Va. -- A Beckley woman accused in the abuse of her young daughter will be sent to Tennessee to face similar charges.

    WVVA-TV reported Sabrina Smith appeared in Raleigh Circuit Court on Friday and waived her right to challenge her extradition. She is charged in Union County, Tenn., with two counts of child neglect and one count of child abuse.
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    Detectives say food was regularly restricted from the girl and she was often put in a child-safety seat.

    The girl was placed with a foster family and has since gained substantial weight.
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    I am a member of this family and related by blood (very closely) to Sabrina Smith. I am not here to get flamed, just to clear up some information.

    First of all, it is not documented that K has aspergers, or autism at all. She is a bright and sunny child, very intelligent, and in no way abnormal other than the fact that she is very small in stature. It is my own personal belief that her mother has Münchhausen's by proxy. K was born premature with a heart defect, but she had surgery and all her heart issues were fixed. After that, her mother began insisting that there was "something wrong" with her. I disagreed. I had a great deal of contact with her (and all the children) at the time of K's birth. Before K was born, the mother insisted one of her older children was deaf. Then he learned to talk, and she insisted HE was autistic. He passed all the testing, and now she says he has a rare genetic chromosomal disorder, and that K has it as well. Since K was born, she stopped "assigning" illnesses to the older child, and since then it has been one illness after another that she has claimed K has. K did overeat, but it was because she was not allowed to have food she liked, so when she got it, she gorged on it.

    The second thing- Yes, K did weigh only 18 lbs, but she is also only about two feet tall. She is extremely small, possibly due to the open heart surgery she had as an infant. I AM NOT justifying what her mother did, just clarifying facts. I actually have a picture of K sitting next to my then 11 month old son from about this time last year, and she was smaller than him, both in weight and height. She was, however, way too thin. BUT- Smith and Wills were not starving her on purpose to try and kill her, they were delusional in the belief that what they were doing was a form of discipline and teaching. They believed that K had self control issues with food and were trying to teach her, control her, punish her, etc. However, they never thought they were hurting her. They actually believed their "therapy" was helping.

    Third, her siblings did treat her badly, but it was only because of the example provided by their mother. K's mom is very sick. She had a very difficult childhood and it seems like she has taken all of her frustration and hurt from her childhood out on K. Why only this one child of her six, I will never know, but it always seemed to me that she couldn't stand K, and it made me hurt so bad to see that.

    Fourth, yes, the teachers at the school have been reporting suspected abuse in the home. However, there was no concrete evidence they could provide about K, as she was never allowed to attend public school. She attended a school for medically challenged children in TN, then her mother decided to "homeschool" her for good (due to her "condition"), so the teachers had no contact with her, only the other kids, who were all well taken care of and healthy children. The co-defendant in the case was a teacher, however, and she lived in the home as the companion of the mother and the co-caretaker of the children. Her behavior, especially as a teacher of special ed children, is deplorable and she deserves the same punishment as the mother.

    The family has been concerned for the welfare of K ever since they moved from OH to TN a few years ago and none of us were able to regularly keep in contact. After she separated from her husband and moved to WV, all of us were virtually cut off from her family, and the few times I did get to see the children I was horribly disturbed by K's condition and repeatedly reported it. Trust me, we all did all that we could with the knowledge we had of her condition, but none of us knew how bad it had gotten and what conditions K was living in.

    The last thing I would like to say is that yes, my family member did a very bad thing, and yes she deserves to be punished, but please keep in mind that there are shocked, horrified, and grieving family members who are trying to deal with this situation and help with the care and recovery of K as well as her siblings. Your opinions are justified and yours to have, but remember these people have loved ones who read your comments, and try to have an ounce of compassion in your words. Many comments that I have read have left me in tears. If anyone could have prevented this, trust me, it would have been me.
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    Thanks for the update and clarifying stuff
    We dont attack family members that come on and talk rationally(as you just did)
    Its the ones that come on swearing and all defensive and rude basically which your none of the above
    How is "K"??
    Do you get to have contact with her now??
    Please keep us update one thing we love around here are updates especiually happy ones!!
    Third, her siblings did treat her badly, but it was only because of the example provided by their mother. K's mom is very sick. She had a very difficult childhood and it seems like she has taken all of her frustration and hurt from her childhood out on K. Why only this one child of her six, I will never know, but it always seemed to me that she couldn't stand K, and it made me hurt so bad to see that.
    Ill have to find it but I did post a thing recently explaining by a dr why out of all the kids in a house 1 is centered out
    Its sad and I dont get it either
    I hope your family gets to have contact with "K" and show her real love
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    @SomoneWhoKnows, realize alot of us think captaingrumpy is an asshat. Frankly, if I had any children, I'd trust mine with a gay couple, male or female, before I would trust them to a single white straight male.
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    @SomoneWhoKnows, realize alot of us think captaingrumpy is an asshat. Frankly, if I had any children, I'd trust mine with a gay couple, male or female, before I would trust them to a single white straight male.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoKnows View Post
    Your opinions are justified and yours to have, but remember these people have loved ones who read your comments, and try to have an ounce of compassion in your words. Many comments that I have read have left me in tears.
    @SomeoneWhoKnows I have had a loved one very close to me do something that could be best described as stupid and newsworthy. It put my private life out there for everybody and their mother to read - and comment on. Those comments are still out there. Some people were just clueless. Others tried to turn it into something it wasn't. And a lot of people were downright mean and unnecessarily cruel. I decided it was best to not read the comments. I cannot control what people think. To this day, people associate my loved one with this one act and it is not fair. But life is not fair. And I have more important things to do than stress over the things I can't control.

    Please, take my words to heart. You will wear yourself out trying to defend your family on every news site and every crime forum. Just let it go.
    "If it's got tires or testicles you're gonna have a problem with it." - RaVen Blackehart

    "Love affairs.....much like bologna....often go bad." - Pete Bondurant

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