Jessica Nichol Arrested For Child Abuse When Her Mom Wouldn't Return Kid

**Dakota Valkyrie** · October 14th, 2010, 05:15 PM

Deputies in Charlotte County arrested an Englewood mother on child abuse and neglect charges.

The Charlotte County Sheriff's Warrant Squad arrested 24-year-old Jessica Dawn Nicol following an investigation that started on May 3.

According to reports, the investigation began when a deputy had been flagged down by Nicol and her boyfriend, Jonathan Snyder, near Chadwick Park. They said Nicol's mother had her two-year-old daughter and would not return her.

The deputy went to meet with the mother, who said she was reluctant returning her granddaughter to Nicol because she thought the child was being abused.

In the report, the deputy wrote, "Nearly every body part had a bruise of some extent. It appeared that the bruises were in different stages of developing. There was a cut under her armpit and behind both ears; the child's upper and lower lips were cut."
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Detectives with the Charlotte County Sheriff's Major Crimes Unit went to that address and also called the Department of Children and Families to the home to investigate.

At that time, officials decided that the young girl should stay with the grandmother until the investigations were finished.

The case against Nicol was forwarded to the State Attorney's Office and an arrest warrant was issued.
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http://www.abc-7.com/Global/story.asp?S=13324811

**Momof4Ts** · October 14th, 2010, 05:49 PM

YaY for Grandma!!!

**momof3** · October 14th, 2010, 07:27 PM

I am not only delighted That a cop actually listened but that grandma spoke up. It has to be a very hard position to be in to not only come to terms with the fact that ur child is an unfit parent but that u have to abandon the mother cub instinct to protect ur grandchild. I commend grandma and hope I never hear about this little girl again on DD. I am a HUGE supporter of grandparents rights. I haven't done any research about how many states have these laws and if anyone here is well versed about the issue I would love to know more.

**Mommyof2** · October 14th, 2010, 08:37 PM

Hooray for grandma!! Hopefully this little girl will make a full recovery and never have to see her abusers again.

I have experienced a situation very much like this one with a close family friend. my mother's friend Sue had her granddaughter over for the weekend. When it was almost time for her daughter to come pick up the granddaughter the child started crying and told her Grandma that she was being abused. The family had already suspected the moms boyfriend of doing something to the little girl. So the grandma took her story very seriously.

She called the police right away. They came out and took her statement and then took grandma and the child to the hospital. Protective services came right out to the hospital after they found signs of both physical and sexual abuse. Grandma was given temporary custody that night.

After months of fighting the mother started making accusations of abuse of her own. (she accused grandma's husband of abusing her as a child) Grandma's husband was forced to move out of the home they had shared for 30+ years. It wasn't until the grandmothers other children testified in court that their step dad never abused them that he was allowed to come back home.

The court told the mother to leave her boyfriend and they would consider giving her the daughter back. She refused and ended up signing custody over to her mother. Neither the mother or the boyfriend were ever found guilty of anything. That part breaks my heart

Anyway the point of me telling that long story is the little girl had all kinds of problems after the abuse. She was behind in learning and had to take kindergarten twice. She had trouble sleeping and often acted out. She had problems making friends and trusting anybody outside of grandma and grandpa. This was 8 years ago and she is still struggling to be a normal little girl.

It breaks my heart the pain these people cause for their own sick pleasures. I really hope this child can recover!

**momof3** · October 14th, 2010, 10:01 PM

Mommyof2 Thank u for sharing and shedding light on what truly happens to the children that "survive". It is heartbreaking and this is exactly what I was trying to bring up in my last post. I have no doubt that her grandparents r taking care of her and providing the unconditional love and support she needs but are our tax paying dollars assuring she gets the "help" she needs past the age of 18 that the grandparents may not be able to monatairly provide or they proceed her in death before she is stable? Or will she continue the vicious cycle? I mean no disrespect when I say that I am just generally speaking.

**misssmartypants** · October 14th, 2010, 10:24 PM

Look, I was in the same situation, with my granddaughter. When the shit hit the fan, and I went and got her, there were all kinds of issues. Most really bad.. like having a ui infection for over a year( and I cant stand one day of it), causing damage, scared of everything, people, men, vans, missing over 67 days in school,the list goes on and on... but heres the great part...it gets better. I had a great support system with her new school, the dentist, her Dr., my friends, ect ect.. and all the hard work paid off. She is a funny, very cute, articulate girl. She knows pain and suffering, and knows that kind of crap will not happen to her again, and has a loving heart to other kids dealing with the same crud. Being a grandmom in this type of situation is hard, especially when it involves your own kids being assholes. Good for grammas who pretty much tell their own kids, hey! you are fucking up, and this baby needs better, and thats that! You are not getting this child back until I know the child is safe. And even then thats iffy! If more families did this, got involved instead of doing nothing, we would be reading less stories. At the end of main article, I noticed that the mom didnt want to leave bf, but she signed over her rights. I know thats seems terrible, but I am glad she did. Maybe she realized she was selfish, and loved dick more than her kid.

**momof3** · October 14th, 2010, 11:00 PM

Misssmartypants...I can only hope that more grandparents like u take notice and do what is right. I commend u. Thank u and I can only hope that If one of my daughters put me in this position I can be as strong as u.

**Mommyof2** · October 14th, 2010, 11:05 PM

There is so much more to this story I just didn't want to go on for to long. This little girl is doing much better and I love to see her smile. She is a joy to be around and only time will tell if she ever fully recovers from this.

Her mother was never really a mother to her. She lied to her ex and had him believing he was the daddy. He raised this little girl most of her life while mommy was out running all around town with any guy who would have her. Then she met the guy who ended up abusing her daughter. She moved four hours away and we thought she was gone for good. Then one day she comes back telling her ex she loved him and he let her back into the house. Two days later her and her daughter were gone.

The family search for her and found them living with another family in a one bedroom trailer. I hate to have these words even come out of my mouth but the rumor was that somebody caught mom, new boyfriend, and child all in bed together naked. It was not long after that the little girl told her grandma everything.

This little girl also had teeth rotting out of her mouth. She was under weight and was almost 6yrs old and had never been to school.

Her mom is a worthless pos and yes I agree with you I was happy when she decided to sign over custody. If she could let one man abuse her daughter I am sure she would let another. I do hope she will get whatever help she needs for her whole life. After all she went through at such a young age she deserves nothing but happiness.

**thehesbomb** · October 14th, 2010, 11:36 PM

She doesn't seem like the brightest star in the sky...

Nicol and Snyder told deputies the bruises were caused by constant falls.

Nicol also told deputies she doesn't believe in doctors or modern medicine.

She says her boyfriend had an excuse for every scrape and scratch on Ciera.

"I stayed with him because I didn't believe he was hurting her," said Nicol.

Nicol was transported to the Charlotte County Jail and posted a $10,000 bond.

Deputies allowed Ciera to stay with her grandmother.

Deputies say Snyder has not come in for interviews. Deputies say it's a possibility he could be arrested, but first they have to talk to him.

http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=13324811

The boyfriend's MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/hard_time07

well 26 i love to fish and spend time out side i just moved to varey nice house but with on goodd thing comes ten bad things iam engaged but hir parents dont like me (gosh, I wonder why!) and all thay do is start shit and it makes it so hard for us to be happy to gather cose all thay do is start shit for us and i love hir so much that some times i wonder if i shuld just walk out and leave my self brocken harted and leave hir to hir mom and famley but if i do that then i lose my best frind and wife and doughter but iam so sick of seing hir up set and brocken harted that it killing me so i dont know what to do

The uterus' MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/jesinicol

**Mommyof2** · October 15th, 2010, 12:49 AM

Wow I tried to read some of his blogs...He has two other kids? and the baby mama left him because he was using drugs.

Saturday, April 18, 2009

my life
Current mood: relaxed
well a lot has gone rong in my life the past few weeks i lost the girl i wanted to marey and my two boys all cose of drugs but i finley got of the drugs and things r starting r to look up for me and i just want to say thanks to my frinds the real ones that wear hear 4 me

Read more: http://www.myspace.com/hard_time07/blog#ixzz12Or1rEtw

**Mommyof2** · October 15th, 2010, 12:51 AM

Oh and I forgot to say where did this kid learn to spell? I thought the school I went to was bad. I know they could have taught me more but Damn this kid didn't learn the basics!

**AngelFire** · October 15th, 2010, 12:55 AM

That fucker can't spell for shit. He has no business even writing a grocery list

**misssmartypants** · October 15th, 2010, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by momof3

Misssmartypants...I can only hope that more grandparents like u take notice and do what is right. I commend u. Thank u and I can only hope that If one of my daughters put me in this position I can be as strong as u.

Oh girl! You will be! And if it does, heaven forbid, you will cry and rage everyday...you'll still love your kid, but want to choke them out for doing the unthinkable to someone so precious. I ask myself why why why..

**Silkprints** · October 15th, 2010, 01:57 AM

Holy shit ! I tried to read what he wrote but it was just about imposiible . Maybe he will get some smartening up in prison ? I sure hope he gets taught real good every night .

**Kindly One** · October 15th, 2010, 04:51 AM

Thank god for Grandma. It's a sad, sad state of affairs when you can't trust Social Services to do their jobs and the only way to protect a child is to break the law, but I wish more grandparents and non-custodial parents would go down this route. I think about Baby P's father (who, while I feel bad for him, FAILED) and all of the parents and grandparents who reluctantly return kids they think are being abused, and I just want to scream "DON'T! TAKE THEM! RUN!". I know it opens up a whole other can of worms, but you've got the attention of the police and a media spotlight. Use it.

If anybody comes across the Grandma's name, let me know. I'd gladly sink $30 on a bunch of flowers. Just... wow. Well played.

**Dakota Valkyrie** · October 15th, 2010, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kindly One

Thank god for Grandma. It's a sad, sad state of affairs when you can't trust Social Services to do their jobs and the only way to protect a child is to break the law, but I wish more grandparents and non-custodial parents would go down this route.

I would not even be thinking of the ability/inability of Social Services or legal ramifications if my grandchild showed up with obvious abuse. My first and foremost thought would to be to protect the child and not give him/her back. Even if I was 100% confident in the outcome of a DCF investigation, the safety of the child would be immediate. I doubt that grandma is any different. Rather than make a call, she took action and obviously DCF and LE agreed with her.

In this case, I don't see any other course of action. The system actually seems to have worked exactly as it's designed to. Nothing wrong there.

**CiaraLuna** · October 15th, 2010, 09:54 AM

Good for you Grandma! I'm glad she didn't turn the other cheek. I'm glad the cop had a brain too! lol

Jesus, my eyes hurt from reading the quotes from his Myspace. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed. I've seen bad spelling before, but that takes the cake!

**galadrial** · October 15th, 2010, 11:08 AM

kudos gramma!!!!!!thank the powers that be - THERE ARE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE OUT THERE!!!!people could take a page out of this gramma's book - fuck the world till the babies are safe!!!!rock on!!!!

**rothase** · October 15th, 2010, 12:38 PM

If anyone knows anything about Grandparents' Rights laws, I would love to hear about it- but right now I have to go take a headache pill. Trying to read that A-hole's gibberish is making my (former English teacher) brain hurt. A lot.

**biteme** · October 15th, 2010, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie

I would not even be thinking of the ability/inability of Social Services or legal ramifications if my grandchild showed up with obvious abuse. My first and foremost thought would to be to protect the child and not give him/her back. Even if I was 100% confident in the outcome of a DCF investigation, the safety of the child would be immediate. I doubt that grandma is any different. Rather than make a call, she took action and obviously DCF and LE agreed with her.

In this case, I don't see any other course of action. The system actually seems to have worked exactly as it's designed to. Nothing wrong their.

Usually seems to work when the police are involved in the investigation
It's when it starts out with CPS and CPS does their so called investigation that the results are always negative for the child, the child ends up dead and CPS takes no responsibility for their inaction
That's why you want to call the cops about child abuse not ineffective CPS

**crimsonsorrow** · October 15th, 2010, 12:56 PM

thank you grandma! i know my mother in law wants to slap her daughter for the little shit she lets slide with her kids but she aint got the ovaries to do so.

sounds like the mom blames the boyfriend off the bat. yea, right.

**galadrial** · October 15th, 2010, 01:02 PM

our cps department here is gung ho about their jobs - too bad they have no fucking clue what abuse is.these stupid fucks left a two yo i know (from babysitting her) with parents that were heroin addicts - fucking booters - and she was starved and beaten.as if that wasnt bad enough, by the time egg donor and her penis FINALLY fucked up bad enough for the state to take this poor little baby, she had hepatitis C.they justified leaving her in the egg donor's care because she was attending an outpatient rehab program. FAIL!!!!i agree - if you know about child abuse, dont waste your fucking time with cps - call 911. that baby girl is not dead, but her fuckstain incubator passed a death sentence on her all the same.

**Kindly One** · October 15th, 2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie

I would not even be thinking of the ability/inability of Social Services or legal ramifications if my grandchild showed up with obvious abuse. My first and foremost thought would to be to protect the child and not give him/her back. Even if I was 100% confident in the outcome of a DCF investigation, the safety of the child would be immediate. I doubt that grandma is any different. Rather than make a call, she took action and obviously DCF and LE agreed with her.

In this case, I don't see any other course of action. The system actually seems to have worked exactly as it's designed to. Nothing wrong there.

I totally agree. Sadly I think a lot of parents, grandparents, friends and neighbours try to do it the "softer" way by calling hotlines and Social Services and waiting for "investigations" to happen. How many stories have we seen where abuse has been reported or hotlines called and nothing was actually DONE to save the kid?

Screw that, don't let the parents back in the door and call the cops. There are fabulous social workers out there - my aunt, in Washington, being one of them - but a lot of them are totally ineffectual and narrow-minded. The ones that are capable are usually hogtied by a stupid bureaucracy that values form-filling and statistics over real results.

After the Baby P horror, I remember a comment on the Guardian website that suggested that instead of recruiting gormless "I like puppies and ickle children" teenagers into "social work degrees", the government should turn their eye to middle-aged mothers and grandmothers if they wanted to see some real action taken on child abuse and neglect.

**sinfulplezurz702** · October 15th, 2010, 02:47 PM

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well 26 i love to fish and spend time out side i just moved to varey nice house but with on goodd thing comes ten bad things iam engaged but hir parents dont like me (gosh, I wonder why!) and all thay do is start shit and it makes it so hard for us to be happy to gather cose all thay do is start shit for us and i love hir so much that some times i wonder if i shuld just walk out and leave my self brocken harted and leave hir to hir mom and famley but if i do that then i lose my best frind and wife and doughter but iam so sick of seing hir up set and brocken harted that it killing me so i dont know what to do

daaaammmmm.....miss school much?