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    Pregnant 12-year-old found in Roma raid: Six arrests as child-trafficking ring is sma


    By Stephen Wright and Louise Eccles
    Last updated at 8:49 AM on 13th October 2010



    A pregnant 12-year-old girl was among 28 Romanian children rescued yesterday as police smashed a suspected child-trafficking ring.

    The youngsters, who were allegedly forced to beg and steal for Fagin-style criminal masters, were among 103 children found at 16 addresses in East London.

    Eight adults were arrested, including three for benefit fraud worth £50,000, while a three-year-old boy was taken to hospital with facial injuries and bruising.
    Child-trafficking ring: Six arrest were made at properties in East London following a case in Romania last when 24 people went on trial accused of bringing almost 200 Roma children to Britain to steal and beg

    Child-trafficking ring: Six arrest were made at properties in East London following a case in Romania last when 24 people went on trial accused of bringing almost 200 Roma children to Britain to steal and beg

    The arrests were linked to a court case in Romania last month, when 24 people went on trial accused of bringing almost 200 Roma children to Britain to steal and beg.

    The Met received intelligence suggesting the suspects in the court case were part of a child-trafficking network which extended to Ilford, East London.

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    At dawn yesterday, officers raided a series of rented properties in Ilford and immediately took 28 ‘at-risk’ children, aged three to 17, into police protection.

    Health and social services officials were interviewing a further 75 youngsters to establish whether they, too, should be taken into care.

    Sources said some of the child pickpockets earned up to £300 a day, but rarely received even a small fraction of the proceeds.

    Most shocking of all was the discovery at one address of a 12-year-old Romanian girl in the early stages of pregnancy.

    It appeared she was not living with her parents and urgent inquiries were under way to establish whether they are in the UK, and whether the girl had ever attended school.
    Rescue: Police rescued 28 Romanian children including one pregnant 12-year-old girl following the raid in Ilford, Essex

    Rescue: Police rescued 28 Romanian children including one pregnant 12-year-old girl following the raid in Ilford, Essex
    Fagin-style criminals: It's thought that the children were forced to beg and steal on the streets of London

    Fagin-style criminals: It's thought that the children were forced to beg and steal on the streets of London

    Superintendent Bernie Gravett, who led yesterday’s operation, told the Mail: ‘It gives us great concern to find a child in this condition at such a tender age.

    ‘This operation has not been about arresting people. It’s about tracing potential victims of trafficking.’

    Six of the 28 children were found at one address alone, and one of the six – a three-year-old boy – was taken immediately to hospital to investigate bruising and facial injuries.
    Fraud: Three adults were arrested for alleged benefit fraud worth £50,000

    Fraud: Three adults were arrested for alleged benefit fraud worth £50,000

    Three of the arrested adults are accused of assaulting a young child and child neglect.

    The alleged benefits cheats are accused of swindling £50,000 worth of child tax credits and housing benefits.

    Last night, residents said they were not surprised to hear about the raids. Neighbours reported dishevelled-looking children as young as four roaming the streets late at night.

    Michelle Thomas, 42, lives near Baden Road and Mayville Road, where three of the raids took place.

    She said: ‘There were always dozens of them and they looked really rough and had cuts on their faces and shabby clothes.

    ‘The children – some of them were tiny, maybe only four – would walk to the takeaways by themselves. They would say “give me some food” to the owners.’

    Told about the arrests, she said: ‘That explains it all then.’

    She said a woman in Mayville Road, whose address was among those raided, had ten children living in the house.

    ‘She was controlling about ten kids. I used to think, “how can an 18-year-old have all those children?”.’


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    More neighbours coming out of the woodwork after the kids have been rescued. Why don't these people phone the police or social services when they see kids running about like this?
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    More neighbours coming out of the woodwork after the kids have been rescued. Why don't these people phone the police or social services when they see kids running about like this?
    Because these are Gypsy children and no one gives a shit about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mare View Post
    Because these are Gypsy children and no one gives a shit about them.
    Don't really have much of a gypsy population here and people don't understand they live by their own rules/lifestyle it's been going on for centuries and don't assimilate into the mainstream population, they are somewhat nomad a people without a country, in Europe they're usually considered thieves and abusers of the welfare system and avoided by the general population

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    All those children, some as young as 3 yo...my god, don't the parent's care they are missing? do they report it does anyone do anything about it? someone cares, has to care...this is unacceptable, absolutely deplorable.

    My heart breaks for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvahalo68 View Post
    All those children, some as young as 3 yo...my god, don't the parent's care they are missing? do they report it does anyone do anything about it? someone cares, has to care...this is unacceptable, absolutely deplorable.

    My heart breaks for them.
    No Silva, no one cares.

    Some of the Gypsy clans see children as something to be used to obtain services and make money off of. They teach the children to beg and steal early. If a child is arrested they are let go, adults would face jail time.

    Some of the clans are very poor and they have to follow their elder's wishes. If an elder tells a mother her two year old will be taken to Italy or UK for a better life, she is to let go of that child without question. Even if she didn’t want to and went to the police, chances are no police department would help her.

    Most countries just want to get rid of the gypsies not help them and not try to assimilate them. As a result most gypsies are ostracized by most countries.

    Gypsies are also used as bogey men. As in, if you don’t behave I'll give you to the gypsies.

    EDIT: Gypsies are romanticized in the US; not so in any other country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mare View Post
    No Silva, no one cares.

    Some of the Gypsy clans see children as something to be used to obtain services and make money off of. They teach the children to beg and steal early. If a child is arrested they are let go, adults would face jail time.

    Some of the clans are very poor and they have to follow their elder's wishes. If an elder tells a mother her two year old will be taken to Italy or UK for a better life, she is to let go of that child without question. Even if she didn’t want to and went to the police, chances are no police department would help her.

    Most countries just want to get rid of the gypsies not help them and not try to assimilate them. As a result most gypsies are ostracized by most countries.

    Gypsies are also used as bogey men. As in, if you don’t behave I'll give you to the gypsies.

    EDIT: Gypsies are romanticized in the US; not so in any other country.
    I know how Gypsies have always been chastised made out to be trash. I just don't get it. It's absolutely beyond me that people would do this, single them out like this. Yes, I know it has happened for eon's as we have seen it in our own history, in our own country. But it simply makes me sick that it happens. This shit has got to stop.

    Someone once asked me, a total stranger it was, if my children were Gypsy. I said no but with a smile added, but I can understand you saying so as they are the most beautiful faces I know.


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    child trafficking makes me sick. there is no human soul in those people involved. after watching that movie: 'Taken'; I know I would do the exact same thing if I were the parent.

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    I knew a woman and her family here in the states that are gypsies and they stile everything they could get their hands on . From stores , as laborers , welfare system ..it was unreal . I had to walk away as they were all nothing but trouble .There are tons of these clans in the inner cities [ this was in Boston]

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    The British are more used to the Irish travellers, badly tarmacing driveways and stealing all the plants lol. Not pc to call them gypsies or pikeys now.
    The Roma community were moved out of my city for their own safety, some yobs took it upon themselves to shift them.
    A lot of poles were moved as well, because their football fans came here and started wrecking the place. The ones who already lived here peacefully had to get out pretty quickly. I think it's because there's been so much destruction here over the years and everyone's sick of it, there's no way they'll let outsiders get off with rioting and destroying the city. Plus some people are just fucking idiots.
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    Gypsies are still singled out Silva. Look at what France is doing to them. Sarkozy feels it is okay to deport them even if they are EU citizens and it is against the EU's rules and regulations.

    Gypsies are not just poor but discriminated against across Europe in housing, education, and employment. Those that want to work are often denied jobs, even if it means not hiring anyone at all. Then it is said they do not want to work, they are refusing to work, so lets send them away because they are Criminals.

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    How does one know if someone is Roma?

    What sets them apart from others for people to look and see it?

    Do they dress a certain way?
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    I've never been overseas to know how they separate and know. I assume it is language and appearance.
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    We get Gypsies at the Glendale Galleria here in California. They tend to roam in the Food Court, and always with children. The one that approached us a few months back made me angry after my hubby pointed out they were gypsies. She had with her what seem to be a 6 to 7 year old boy. Asked me for money so that she could feed him, while her son stared at my son's food. Now offer them food, and it's like offering Superman Kriptonite, they glare at you as if you just spit in their face.

    But this abuse is horrible, and these monsters have no souls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    How does one know if someone is Roma?

    What sets them apart from others for people to look and see it?

    Do they dress a certain way?

    Roma is an ethnicity here in the UK and Europe.

    Most also speak Romani as well. Just thought I would explain that a wee bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Ma View Post
    How does one know if someone is Roma?

    What sets them apart from others for people to look and see it?

    Do they dress a certain way?
    You know a Roma the same way you know a Mexican (not to be offensive, just trying to give you an idea on how they are "identified).

    I found a picture of Roma's in Bulgaria, I think.

    Roma kids



    Non Roma kids
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    Perfect illustration of a gypsy.

    The yellow duck is yelling "Gypsy!" at the black ducks
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    That is sad. Regardless of how these people live their lives, these wee ones start off like any of our kids. They want to play, laugh, and run around and instead these assholes steal their innocence and have them live in squalor, and have them begging when they should all be playiong and carrying on like kids. I am with Gidget,(currently ranting how she hates people on the Dear So, so thread), I hate people...This breaks my heart
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    See, I totally suck at that. I would've thought India Indian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    Don't really have much of a gypsy population here and people don't understand they live by their own rules/lifestyle it's been going on for centuries and don't assimilate into the mainstream population, they are somewhat nomad a people without a country, in Europe they're usually considered thieves and abusers of the welfare system and avoided by the general population
    As a French person, this is quite true from my own experiences.

    The amusing gesture however is their attempt to claim amnesty and/or citizenship while they continue to roam across the Eurozone like cattle. I mean, really. Countries still have their individual laws in the European Union. You can't just sit your ass down in France and expect to stay. Hilariously enough European governments have been criticizing the French over their treatment of Romanis when, in actuality, their political treatment isn't racist. Surely the intent is xenophobic and racist, that's not arguable. But they are willfully abusing amnesty laws in the name of their culture. These people are lawless and I fully support their repatriation.

    The children of course are not to be blamed. The idiotic parents that wish to live a 'nomadic life' in a world with endless political boundaries and political strife are. Europe is not Mongolia.

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