Police Now Treating Missing Zahra Clare Baker As A Homicide

**FknKraze** · October 14th, 2010, 05:50 PM

"She's upset about being held in jail. She's upset about being away from her family," he said.
That portrait of the concerned stepmother contradicts how relatives and former neighbors described Baker. They said in interviews and court documents that she was nasty-tempered and violent and often took her rage out on Zahra.

Oh boo-fucking-hoo you dumb cunt bitch! Imaging how scary LIFE must have been for Zahra, knowing at any minute she could take a beating and even if she didn't give a reason, you would find one!! I hope you are scared cow! REALLY fucking scared!!
We already know from the hearing aid charity, that this bitch can put on quite the show, to make herself look good.

**BreakTheSilence** · October 14th, 2010, 05:59 PM

Imp,
You mentioned the family moved in mid-September and that nobody has reported seeing Zahra since that time. I guess I'm wondering if law enforcement has gone and checked the previous house this child was known to live in. They very easily could have murdered her there, buried her on the property or in that area and then moved to the present location. I mean what better reason to move than to get away from the scene of the crime? If they aren't finding anyone who has seen Zahra since they moved into the new house, it maybe time to look at their previous address.
Perhaps they murdered her and then buried her. They waited to find a new place, moved and then once settled in figured they had to give a reason for Zahra not being with them. They report her missing while knowing the cops aren't going to find anything in their area.
I don't know, maybe I'm off base, but it seems like something worth investigating. I just know it breaks my heart that this precious child went through so much battling cancer and it appears she won that battle to only die at the hands of the very people who were meant to love, nurture and protect her.

**Dakota Valkyrie** · October 14th, 2010, 06:29 PM

Though Zahra Clare Baker was battling cancer that forced her to wear hearing aids and a prosthetic leg, friends who knew her in Australia say she was an outgoing, caring, happy girl.

Then her lonely single father moved her halfway around the world to North Carolina so he could live with a woman he met on the Internet. Now the 10-year-old with the freckles and wide smile is missing and presumed dead, and friends and family thousands of miles away are waiting anxiously for word about her fate.

"She was one of the bravest little girls you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting," Kim Wright, 44, a close friend of the family, told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Giru, Australia, where Zahra lived until two years ago. "She was always thinking of others."
[...]

Wright said friends and family in Australia still hope Zahra is alive. She became friends with the little girl four years ago at a cancer fundraising event. She was sitting in a chair waiting for her head to be shaved to raise money when Zahra approached, took her hand and told her not to be scared.

Wright became something of a surrogate mother to the girl, whose biological mother left when she was a baby. Adam Baker raised her after that with help from his parents, Wright said, taking time off from the sugar mill where he worked so he could be with Zahra when she was diagnosed with bone cancer about five years ago.
[...]

Wright says friends in Australia were suspicious of Elisa Baker when Adam Baker met her online in early 2008 and invited her to visit.

Elisa Baker told them she was she was a police officer who was shot in the line of duty. She also said she was a bounty hunter and had met celebritites.

"She told a lot of stories that never quite rang true," Wright said.

They were married that July in a small ceremony in Adam Baker's parents' backyard. In November, they moved to North Carolina. The family was less than thrilled, especially since Zahra's medical treatments were free in Australia.

"Adam was on his own for eight years with Zahra before he met (her) and I think he was lonely and I think that was his biggest downfall, really," Wright said.
[...]

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/1...ot-for-nc.html

**Dakota Valkyrie** · October 14th, 2010, 06:35 PM

A missing 10-year-old may have been alive when her family moved to a new home in North Carolina in mid-September, police said Thursday.

Investigators are having trouble finding anyone outside Zahra Clare Baker's household in Hickory who has seen the girl alive in recent months, making it difficult to narrow down places to search.
[...]

Deputy Chief Clyde Deal would not elaborate about why authorities think the girl was alive when the family moved from the nearby town of Sawmills.
[...]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39673288...me_and_courts/

**Whisper** · October 14th, 2010, 08:18 PM

Zahra Claire Baker: Issues 10/14/10 Part 1
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**Chaindrive** · October 14th, 2010, 11:05 PM

From the link upthread that quotes her myspace:

I am gothic and proud of it…

You are so full of shit I can't even believe it. You're a wannabe. You're way too old to be goth. Having a bad black dye job on your hair does not equal goth. Get a fucking clue. You're not 14 anymore.

**Jerri Blank** · October 15th, 2010, 06:07 AM

Next-door neighbors wonder if Zahra kept in attic
Apartment manager saw her once, never again while living next to the Bakers

When the Baker family first moved into the apartments on Congress Street in July 2009, Shirley Mims had been the manager for only a short time.

It didn’t take her long to become better acquainted with Elisa and Adam Baker, who were in the apartment next door to Shirley and her husband, Darrell.

“They fought verbally and physically with each other. You could hear it through the walls,” Shirley said. “They’d even take it out into the parking lot.”

It was so bad one time that it knocked the pictures off the wall the Mims shared with the Bakers, Shirley said.

She said the couple began fighting about three weeks after they moved into the apartment.

As for the now-missing Zahra Clare Baker, Shirley didn’t even know the couple had a daughter.

“We saw the little girl when they moved in, but we didn’t see her no more after that,” she said.

“When I saw the little girl, I assumed it was a grandchild or a visitor, because I never saw her again.” [...]

[...] The Bakers lived in the apartment on Congress Street until early November 2009, when Shirley asked them to move out because of their fighting.

“In one-and-a-half days, they were gone,” Shirley said. “I got the impression they didn’t want the police here.”

When Shirley and Darrell went into the Bakers’ apartment after they left, they were surprised by what they found. One of the doors to a closet had been removed.

That closet provides access to the attic — an attic where you can’t store anything, it just contains blown insulation for the two-story apartments.

When the Mims were watching the news this week, they recognized their former tenants. They were also surprised to learn they had a daughter.

They’re now wondering if maybe Zahra was in the attic
“We don’t know for sure, but we think they kept her in the attic,” Darrell said.

“There were black shoe sole prints all around the inside (of the door frame). The door to the cubby hole was taken off.”

The Mims still haven’t found the door to the closet, and aren’t sure what the Bakers did with it.

Darrell said for several months — during the time the Bakers lived next door — it sounded as if squirrels were in the attic.

“All the noises I heard in the attic must have been her, but I never heard them again after they left,” Shirley said. “I can’t prove that’s what it was, but in my heart, that’s what I believe.”

When Darrell went up to the attic to look, he saw a section of the firewall that divides the two apartments was pulled down and was on top some of the boards and insulation. It was cracked in a few places.

“It looked as though a child had gone to sleep on it,” Darrell said.[...]

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...tic-ar-458767/

I dunno if the article is more informative than that because they didn't bother using paragraphs. I just couldn't read any more.

Massive Search For Zahra Comes Up Empty

For the fifth day in a row, police launched a massive search on Thursday at a remote property north of Morganton, but they did not fine any signs of Zahra Baker

Thursday was the most active day of searching since Zahra was reported missing on Saturday. 70 people looked through 60 acres of land just north of Morganton.

To find some closure Thursday night, more than 100 people showed up at First Baptist Church in Hudson for a private candlelight vigil.

Zahra used to attend Hudson Elementary until this year. Dozens of Zahra's former teachers and classmates attended. "To see her leave, its just really hard for all of us," said 10-year-old Alliy Merkwa, fighting back tears.[...]

[...]Channel 9 has been able to confirm from police on Thursday that Zahra, did make the move to Hickory with her family from Sawmills in Caldwell County and have confirmed that she was alive as recently as mid-September.
Police are still working to narrow their timeline since the 10-year-old disabled girl went missing.[...]

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/25389806/detail.html

**Kindly One** · October 15th, 2010, 06:22 AM

Oh god. They made her sleep up there? How in the hell do you get to the point that you think that's okay? How fucked up and nasty and malicious and evil do you have to be to hoist a child up into a space like that?
For some reason, maybe the drywall, that article made me think of Tiffany Wright, who starved to death in an apartment over a pub in Sheffield. She was three, and had peeled and eaten tiny flecks of wallpaper off the walls, trying to stay alive. Anyway.
Stupid, evil, ugly people, the both of them, if that's true.

**Aena** · October 15th, 2010, 06:22 AM

Oh man, this is just getting more horrific by the day. Now she may have been kept in an attic? This breaks my heart, this little girl fought so hard to live, only to be taken away by something worse, her parent.

**Rawrehz** · October 15th, 2010, 11:18 AM

“There were black shoe sole prints all around the inside (of the door frame). The door to the cubby hole was taken off.”

The Mims still haven’t found the door to the closet, and aren’t sure what the Bakers did with it.

Darrell said for several months — during the time the Bakers lived next door — it sounded as if squirrels were in the attic.

“All the noises I heard in the attic must have been her, but I never heard them again after they left,” Shirley said. “I can’t prove that’s what it was, but in my heart, that’s what I believe.”

When Darrell went up to the attic to look, he saw a section of the firewall that divides the two apartments was pulled down and was on top some of the boards and insulation. It was cracked in a few places.

“It looked as though a child had gone to sleep on it,” Darrell said.[...]

That just made me choke up .. How horrific! This poor girl had gone through so much already. I wonder if her father treated her anything like this BEFORE cuntface came along. He was lonely and all but to have and cherish your sick daughter...then to bring in this bitch and throw her away like a ragdoll? I just don't get it.

I cannot imagine her pussy was that good to do something like that to a child. I still think he has partial involvement here too. He is defintiley not getting my vote for the pity party mode. Asshole.

**Whisper** · October 15th, 2010, 01:53 PM

Zahra Claire Baker Updated information
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**impqueen** · October 15th, 2010, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by BreakTheSilence

Imp,
You mentioned the family moved in mid-September and that nobody has reported seeing Zahra since that time. I guess I'm wondering if law enforcement has gone and checked the previous house this child was known to live in.

Yes, they did search the trailer in Sawmills. I believe that was done Wednesday or yesterday. And the apartment before that has been photographed, at the very least.

I'm getting the feeling that Zahra will not be easily found. It's reminiscent of the Caylee case to me. I hope I'm wrong.

**Whisper** · October 15th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Zahra Claire Baker: News Reports 10/15/10
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**rebel450** · October 15th, 2010, 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=whisperswing;460379]Zahra Claire Baker Updated information
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Why???????????? With everything this Lil' Gal has endured already in this life time. So many people have failed her, so many. You overlook a little slap on the butt, but you do not overlook everything that we have seen so far in this case. None of these people are normal in any respect.

My neighbor on the back street, was sitting on her front porch, drinking beer one afternoon, her little 4 year old son, started crawling up our back fence to see the pond and the koi in it. I went over and asked him to get down very nicely before he fell and hurt himself, his mother came running over ready to jump my fence and punch me, because I I asked her son, to get down, so he would not get hurt. She asked me what I said to him and I told her. Of course she said it was not my place, I told her obviously it was, as you were to damn busy drinking and watching him do it. These are things that people with feelings and a brain do. For some you have to be an advocate.

I hope they can all live with themselves. I feel they are just as guilty as the parents, the SM or whoever chose to ignore this.

**Rockin Ma** · October 15th, 2010, 05:37 PM

Investigators looking into the case of a missing Hickory girl who is presumed to be dead returned to the 10-year-old's home Friday morning and removed some items from the house.

Police were at the Hickory home for about two hours Friday morning and they brought a cadaver dog to the house.

The dog was led into the house, but officials have not said if the dog detected anything unusual inside the home.

Police also brought Zahra Claire Baker's father, Adam, to the home.

Officers removed mattresses, box springs and bed rails from the house. Those items will be taken to the state lab in Raleigh to be analyzed for blood or any other forms of DNA. Baker left the house around 12:30 p.m.

Police also searched another home Friday afternoon in which the Bakers previously lived in near Hudson, NC.

Earlier this morning, we spoke with a woman who claims she saw Zahra Baker 14 days before the girl was reported missing. Reporter Kay Johnson will have more on this story, Friday, on WBTV News 3 at 6 p.m.

Thursday evening, the search of 60 acres of land in the Hartland Road Community of Burke County ended with no trace of the girl who was reported missing last Saturday.

The girl's father works for a landscaping company that uses a portion of the land to store equipment and dispose of brush.

Full Coverage: The Search for Zahra

"The dad had access to equipment and the property, so we needed to search it," said Burke County Sheriff John McDevitt.

The father has not been charged with anything related to the case.

The stepmother, Elisa Baker, was arrested Sunday on charges unrelated to the disappearance of Zahra, but she was served with a warrant on Tuesday accusing her of an obstruction of justice in connection with a ransom note that was found.

Hickory Police say the stepmother admitted she wrote the note. Police believe the note was written to hinder the investigation into the missing girl.

The Hartland Road site is one of several that have been searched in recent days, though more attention was given to it.

Cadaver dogs have gone over the entire property and a pond was drained Wednesday night in hopes of finding some evidence. None was found.

McDevitt said, "we gave a valiant effort to find something, but could not."

The sheriff does not expect searchers to return to the site unless some other evidence comes up to point them that way.

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637

**Rockin Ma** · October 15th, 2010, 05:40 PM

As the search continued Friday for 10-year-old Zahra Baker, about 100 people assembled at Hudson’s First Baptist Church to hold a candlelight vigil and pray for the missing Hickory girl, the Charlotte Observer reported.

Six days have now passed with no sign of Zahra. The investigation into her disappearance is classified as a homicide. The girl’s mother was still in jail Friday under allegations that she faked a ransom note to throw investigators off-track. And police have refused to comment on whether the girl’s father, Adam Baker, is suspected of wrongdoing, the Observer reported.

Police on Friday brought a new team of search dogs to the parent’s home in Hickory, trying to rule out the area in their search.

Following is an excerpt from the Observer’s report that details the search for clues in a case that has captivated North Carolina.

“The dogs and their handlers searched inside the house and were seen in the back yard. Searchers looked under piles of brush and along the fence line, with the missing girl’s father, Adam Baker, inside the home while the search took place.

Baker told reporters he still believes Zahra is alive and said he is actively looking for the girl, whose disappearance has been classified by Hickory police as a homicide investigation.

“I’m not concerned about myself,” Baker said. ‘I’m concerned about Zahra.’”

http://yellowtape.blogs.starnewsonli...-hickory-girl/

**Jerri Blank** · October 15th, 2010, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rockin Ma

Police also brought Zahra Claire Baker's father, Adam, to the home.

Officers removed mattresses, box springs and bed rails from the house. Those items will be taken to the state lab in Raleigh to be analyzed for blood or any other forms of DNA. Baker left the house around 12:30 p.m.

I wonder are they testing it as a crime scene or to see if she was actually there. I can't believe we have another case this crazy again. it's so heart breaking :-(

**kinerbeaner** · October 15th, 2010, 07:01 PM

you'd think that if she cracked so quickly on admitting writing the ransom note, she'd crack quickly on admitting what she did to Zahra.....

**FknKraze** · October 15th, 2010, 07:27 PM

I thought the stepcunt reminded me of someone....and then it came to me!!

All she needs is the white streak!!

**Whisper** · October 15th, 2010, 07:51 PM

Cadaver Dog Taken Inside Home of Missing Girl Zahra Claire Baker TyneR0seMedia
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**FknKraze** · October 15th, 2010, 09:39 PM

Oh god. They made her sleep up there? How in the hell do you get to the point that you think that's okay? How fucked up and nasty and malicious and evil do you have to be to hoist a child up into a space like that?
For some reason, maybe the drywall, that article made me think of Tiffany Wright, who starved to death in an apartment over a pub in Sheffield. She was three, and had peeled and eaten tiny flecks of wallpaper off the walls, trying to stay alive. Anyway.
Stupid, evil, ugly people, the both of them, if that's true.

Oh God, why did I look, here is the link to that story, very distrurbing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/ju...hildprotection

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...hy-scott-clark

**Jerri Blank** · October 15th, 2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kindly One

Oh god. They made her sleep up there? How in the hell do you get to the point that you think that's okay? How fucked up and nasty and malicious and evil do you have to be to hoist a child up into a space like that?
For some reason, maybe the drywall, that article made me think of Tiffany Wright, who starved to death in an apartment over a pub in Sheffield. She was three, and had peeled and eaten tiny flecks of wallpaper off the walls, trying to stay alive. Anyway.
Stupid, evil, ugly people, the both of them, if that's true.

Originally Posted by FknKraze

Oh God, why did I look, here is the link to that story, very distrurbing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/ju...hildprotection

I meant to comment on Tiffany. her story is one of the most heart breaking stories I've ever read. She truly touched my heart.
https://sites.google.com/site/chilre...y-wright-hirst

She had un-opened presents in the closet because her bitch mother didn't want to clean. her mother didn't want to launder clothes so her and brother were nude most of the time..it's just unbelievable the list of crap these people did to this baby.

**Whisper** · October 15th, 2010, 11:17 PM

Father of missing NC girl says he's cooperating

HICKORY, N.C. -- The father of a missing 10-year-old said Friday he is cooperating with police searching for his daughter and unsure whether his wife is involved in the case.

"I want to find her and take her home," Adam Baker told The Associated Press by phone, adding that he will return Zahra Clare Baker to the family's native Australia if she wants to go.

Baker and his wife, the girl's stepmother, reported Zahra missing on Oct. 9. They said they had last seen the girl -- who used hearing aids and a prosthetic leg because of bone cancer -- in her bed at their home in Hickory, about 50 miles northwest of Charlotte.
But police say they don't believe the couple and suspect the girl has been killed. Investigators said Thursday that Zahra may have been alive when the family moved to a new home in North Carolina in mid-September, but they've had trouble finding anyone else who has seen her in recent months.

Baker said Friday he not spoken with his wife, 42-year-old Elisa Baker, and remains unsure if she had anything to do with his daughter's disappearance.
"Maybe," Baker told AP. "I'm still trying to figure it all out."
Elisa Baker has been jailed, charged with obstruction of justice after police say she tried to throw them off with a fake ransom note. She also faces charged unrelated to the case.
[...]
Also Friday, Burke County investigators said they were satisfied the girl's body is not on a wooded lot where tree service equipment including a wood chipper was being kept.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...ate&id=7727090

To little to late for me
Sorry I may be jumping the gun but I personally feel dad knows more then hes letting on

**Whisper** · October 16th, 2010, 11:43 AM

Furniture store employees remember seeing Zahra Baker 14 days before disappearance

HICKORY, NC (WBTV) - Employees at a Hickory furniture store say they remember seeing Zahra Baker and her stepmother in the store 14 days before she was reported missing.
Linda Austin says she noticed the little girl had a prosthetic leg and heard her stepmother call her by her name. "And I thought that was a strange name, which it is it's different, pretty but different," Austin said.
"She was standing in the aisle way and as I walked past, I put my hand on her shoulder and said excuse me sweetheart and she looked at me and smiled," Pat Adams added.
That smile, Adams says was the same one she found staring back at her from photos she found online.

Employees called police and a statement was taken. The store has surveillance video but it was not turned on at the time.
Before this information, police had not found anyone who'd seen Zahra in the last month.
Investigators looking into the case of a missing Hickory girl who is presumed to be dead returned to the 10-year-old's home Friday morning and removed some items from the house.
Police were at the Hickory home for about two hours Friday morning and they brought a cadaver dog to the house.

The dog was led into the house, but officials have not said if the dog detected anything unusual inside the home.

Police also brought Zahra Claire Baker's father, Adam, to the home.
Officers removed mattresses, box springs and bed rails from the house. Those items will be taken to the state lab in Raleigh to be analyzed for blood or any other forms of DNA. Baker left the house around 12:30 p.m.
Police also searched another home Friday afternoon in which the Bakers previously lived in near Hudson, NC.
Managers of the Congress Street apartment complex believe Zahra was kept in the attic.
They say the Bakers lived there between July and November of last year.

Shirley and Darrell Mims said they went to investigate a smell in the home and when they went upstairs they found the closet door missing and footprints on the closet walls.
On closer inspection, Darrell Mims found sheet rock in the attic torn door, "like someone was laying on it," he said. The Mims also say they never saw Zahra except once when the family was moving in.

"We use to hear noise in the middle of the night. I don't know if it was the little girl staying up here or what but we've heard no more noises since they've been gone," Darrell Mims said.
A K-9 searched the area around the home but it's unclear if anything was found here.

Thursday evening, the search of 60 acres of land in the Hartland Road Community of Burke County ended with no trace of the girl who was reported missing last Saturday.
The girl's father works for a landscaping company that uses a portion of the land to store equipment and dispose of brush.
[...]

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637

Zahra Claire Baker Where is She?
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**Chaindrive** · October 16th, 2010, 11:57 AM

This is what bothers me...the dad said he hadn't seen Zahra since Thursday because of his work schedule. He worked for a tree service and last I checked, they don't work at night. So why didn't he see her?

**TwiztidAngel** · October 16th, 2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Chaindrive

This is what bothers me...the dad said he hadn't seen Zahra since Thursday because of his work schedule. He worked for a tree service and last I checked, they don't work at night. So why didn't he see her?

probably because she wasn't there TO be seen...i say lil bit was already wherever they put her way before then

**totallytoddler** · October 16th, 2010, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Chaindrive

This is what bothers me...the dad said he hadn't seen Zahra since Thursday because of his work schedule. He worked for a tree service and last I checked, they don't work at night. So why didn't he see her?

I don't work at all and sometimes I don't see my son for a couple days. My son is much older and is super busy with work, school, band, etc......so that makes sense....I'm gonna have to say that if he was 10...I would at least check on the kid....sheesh....I guess some parents are just not that interested.

Didn't they say that was his former job? Or am I just making shit up? I notice HLN sometimes reports bullshit...depending on the reporter...they just misspeak...like ALOT. So who knows.

**Chaindrive** · October 16th, 2010, 12:30 PM

I've seen "works" and "worked". I'm not sure if he still works there or not.

**Whisper** · October 16th, 2010, 02:31 PM

Police Widen SearchOf Missing N.C. Girl

CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Police investigators are working several leads in the case of missing North Carolina girl, 10-year-old Zahra Clare Baker, specifically addressing her life before she disappeared.

Investigators will be interviewing her former teachers at schools in Caldwell Co., NC. The family also lived at several different addresses recently, and investigators will be interviewing those neighbors who may have known the family and Zahra.
[..]
Investigators are having trouble finding anyone outside Zahra Clare Baker’s household in Hickory who has seen the girl alive in recent months, making it difficult to narrow down places to search.

Police say the girl, who used hearing aids and a prosthetic leg because of bone cancer, has been killed. She was reported missing over the weekend by her father and stepmother, but police do not believe their story about the last time they saw her in her bed.

Deputy Chief Clyde Deal would not elaborate about why authorities think the girl was alive when the family moved from the nearby town of Sawmills.

Zahra’s stepmother, Elisa Baker, is jailed, accused of trying to throw off investigators with a fake ransom note. She also faces charged unrelated to the case.

http://toppoli.com/2010/10/16/police...medium=twitter

**Whisper** · October 16th, 2010, 04:14 PM

Authorities narrow timeline of when North Carolina girl was last seen

(CNN) -- Investigators have narrowed down the date of the last time someone other than a family member saw a missing 10-year-old North Carolina girl to September 25, police said Saturday.

[...]
the rest is at the link instead of repeating alot whats already posted

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/10/16/...irl/index.html