Curtis Allgier Wants His Tats Covered During Trial

**Dakota Valkyrie** · September 2nd, 2010, 06:18 PM

Whether Curtis Allgier will be able to cover up the tattoos that span the entire surface of his head and body during his upcoming capital murder trial has not yet been decided.

But the judge who will ultimately make the decision expressed some doubts Wednesday about how it could be done.

"What if at some point he sneezed or coughed or rubbed his makeup to show the tattoos?" 3rd District Judge Paul Maughan asked. "I'm just trying to figure out the logistics."

He said he was worried about the implications of granting such a motion — particularly the cost and time it may take to cover the ink on the face, neck, chest, arms and hands of the man accused of killing corrections officer Stephen Anderson in 2007. But defense attorneys assured the judge that Allgier could be covered up within 10 minutes.

Maughan, however, said that even if he were to allow Allgier's various white supremacy, neo-Nazi-themed tattoos to be covered during trial, he would not allow them to be covered up during a penalty phase — a hearing during which jurors would decide whether to recommend life or death for Allgier should he be convicted.

"I can tell you right now that's not going to happen," Maughan said. "In the penalty phase, the state has the right to present Mr. Allgier as Mr. Allgier."

Defense attorneys have argued that allowing the tattoos to remain visible to jurors would be "prejudicial."

"We think that he should be judged on what he's proven to have done and not what he looks like," defense attorney Ralph Dellapiana said.

Prosecutors counter that Allgier should appear as he was at the time of the crime for the sake of identification. They say Utah law requires the "defendant appear in court with his tattoos exposed just as he appeared on the day of the alleged crime and just as the victim saw him — tattoos and all."
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In addition to aggravated murder, Allgier is facing a number of other charges, including aggravated escape, aggravated robbery and three counts of aggravated attempted murder — all first-degree felonies. Prosecutors contend that Allgier stole Anderson's gun, shot him, carjacked a vehicle and then led police on a chase in which he twice tried to run over a deputy who was setting up road spikes before trying to kill a restaurant worker and customer at an Arby's restaurant.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...udge-says.html

Here’s an explanation of the meaning behind some the arcane symbols inked on the alleged cop-killer’s visage:

Crucified Skinhead (right cheek) –– The image of a skinhead on a cross symbolizes the persecution of working-class skinheads by the upper class.

Three Intersecting Triangles (right jaw) –– This symbol is known as a valknut or volknut. Among non-racist pagans, it’s a sign of the afterlife and a binding of the soul to Odin, chief among the Norse gods. Among racist pagans, it signifies “that one is ready to be taken into the ranks of Odin’s chosen warriors.”

5150 (under the right eye) –– A likely reference to the California statute that allows people to be involuntarily committed to a mental hospital if they are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others, according to Mark Pitcavage of the Anti-Defamation League.

Hatebreed (upper lip) –– Hatebreed is a hardcore punk band popular among racist skinheads.

Iron Crosses (forehead temples) –– A German military decoration dating to the early 19th century that was made famous by the Nazis.

SS Lightning Bolts (jawbones) –– A symbol of the Schutzstaffel (“Protective Squadron”), or SS, the Nazi police force that administered the death camps and staffed the mobile killing units known as Einsatzgruppen. After the war, the entire SS was declared a criminal organization by the Nuremburg judges.

Blood, Honor, and Loyalty (collarbone) –– A phrase used heavily by racist skinheads and other neo-Nazis in rock lyrics, clothing and tattoos.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/0...ier-explained/

My solution: Hefty Bag to the head! MUST be the drawstring variety, tightly closed around neck for the duration.

**Rawrehz** · September 2nd, 2010, 06:33 PM

Jiminy Christmas! =o

I, for one, am frightened.

**Rawrehz** · September 2nd, 2010, 06:34 PM

I can't quite make it out........
but is that a zipper on his nose??

**Tundratot** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:00 PM

He wants his tats covered? Then why the hell did he get them all over his face and neck? Stupid punk. Should have thought about that before he got them everywhere he had skin.

"We think that he should be judged on what he's proven to have done and not what he looks like," defense attorney Ralph Dellapiana said.

Getting those tats that say "skin head" and "515" and "Property of Tulane" and with swastikas and flowers and skulls is what he has done. Is he ashamed of them now?

He should live with his work and show it off, since he made sure no one could miss it in his day-to-day life.

**Mom2three** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:03 PM

Defense attorneys have argued that allowing the tattoos to remain visible to jurors would be "prejudicial."

He didn't seem to mind when he was walking around in day to day life about them being prejudicial. I am certain that he wore them with pride. That's how he was then, that is how he SHOULD be judged.

**Dakota Valkyrie** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:07 PM

Next thing you know, they will be covering the faces of ugly people on trial.

**badfish76** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:12 PM

Short of the Hefty bag idea, which I love, the only way to cover all that in 10 mins. would be to spray paint him.

Only idiots that plan to spend their life in prison would do some shit like that.

**Alf** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:25 PM

It took me a minute to remember who this putz was. "Cover his tats? Long-sleeve shirt, maybe a tie, depending on whether --" then it dawned on me that the only way a long-sleeve shirt would help is if it were draped over his head.

--Al

**Alf** · September 2nd, 2010, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tundratot

Property of Tulane

That's actually "Property of Jolene", his girlfriend at the time he was arrested. She came here all full of piss and vinegar, but I don't know what ever happened to her.

ETA: I just got done searching the forums and the front page, with no sight of Allgier. It may have been another site she found.

--Al

**galadrial** · September 3rd, 2010, 12:05 AM

I am sure that he flaunted those tats with pride before this happened. Now he wants to cover them up? Wouldn't that be like dressing the wolf as a sheep before opening the gate to their field?!?!

run sheep run......or in this case, death penalty people death penalty - for the very real evil beneath those tats.

**Aslan** · September 3rd, 2010, 12:46 AM

You know.. I was all about jumping to his defense until I saw what he did to his face.
Do that. Break the law, Have fun.

**Tundratot** · September 3rd, 2010, 01:11 AM

That's actually "Property of Jolene", his girlfriend at the time he was arrested. She came here all full of piss and vinegar, but I don't know what ever happened to her.

ETA: I just got done searching the forums and the front page, with no sight of Allgier. It may have been another site she found.

You intrigue me, Alf. What do you remember about this?

**Dneilz** · September 3rd, 2010, 01:29 AM

Jesus.... what must his parents think? Wasn't he concerned about ink poisoning? lol, My God he looks absolutely ridiculous! Why the fuck would you do this to your entire body? Face, ears, nose... head? Do you guys think his belly has a tattoo of a monkey with the belly button being the butthole? I have seen tats like that, or pictures of them and I.... I can't help but think this guy is the "type" to do that.

Good Luck buddy... hey, please use Almay make-up.... I will by stock in it tomorrow

**Darsa** · September 3rd, 2010, 03:13 AM

Bah, all his lawyers need is a good ol' fat-tip Sharpie to cover all that. He can even pick a color! Maybe they can make the designs into flowers and fairies and butterflies, so it's less prejudicial...

Ouch, giving myself a headache with all the eyerolling. I hope they don't let him.

I was like

at the tattoos INSIDE his ears; that's messed up. And that kinda looks like it might be a cobra on his nose...?

**KyFyre** · September 3rd, 2010, 06:40 AM

Now isn't that something, the prejudice jerk worrying about the jury being prejudiced against him. Easy, Breezy Beautiful he ain't, he'll never be a Covergirl looking like that. I say let them see him for what he wanted the rest of the world to see him as.

**LeeMouse** · September 3rd, 2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:
That's actually "Property of Jolene", his girlfriend at the time he was arrested. She came here all full of piss and vinegar, but I don't know what ever happened to her.

ETA: I just got done searching the forums and the front page, with no sight of Allgier. It may have been another site she found.

Originally Posted by Tundratot

You intrigue me, Alf. What do you remember about this?

I remember this--it's over on Crime Rant. A story was posted, Jolene popped in to defend her "man" (the typical "you're all haters/jealous/can't understand our special, special love" defense), and then she apparently agreed to be interviewed by the Crime Rant guy:

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=364 (post #30 and #31)

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=420 (interview; post #133 on this thread is from "Emily," who claims to be Curtis' sister, and she explains at length that, inside, poor Curtis is just a frightened, misunderstood child who is incapable of functioning in the real world. *barf*)

Jolene also popped over to the My Life of Crime blog to defend him; interestingly, at the point she is referring to herself as his ex-wife. Guess he was a little hasty with that "Property of Jolene" tattoo.

http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2...-lake-city-ut/

And on the lines of the ex-wife thing, a later thread at Crime Rant talks about her "new love," who is also apparently an incarcerated skinhead. Nice to have a "type," I guess. The links in that thread to what was apparently her old Facebook are dead, but you can get a sense of what she must have had posted through the discussion. (Sounds like she posted pics of her own White Power tattoo.)

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=903

**VXIII** · September 3rd, 2010, 05:46 PM

Looks like he may have been a nice looking man before he decided to fuck up his face... what are they going to do? cover him with an elephant man hood???

**VXIII** · September 3rd, 2010, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Tundratot

He wants his tats covered? Then why the hell did he get them all over his face and neck? Stupid punk. Should have thought about that before he got them everywhere he had skin.
Getting those tats that say "skin head" and "515" and "Property of Tulane" and with swastikas and flowers and skulls is what he has done. Is he ashamed of them now?

He should live with his work and show it off, since he made sure no one could miss it in his day-to-day life.

Is 515 area code in Iowa? Property of Tulane, what does that mean? Tulane University? They do accept body donations to use for their med students for anatomy classes...

**Rockin Ma** · September 3rd, 2010, 06:31 PM

Curtis Michael Allgier (b.August 25, 1979)[2] is a white supremacist,[3] neo-Nazi skinhead from Hill City, South Dakota who is being held in the Salt Lake county Jail for the murder[4] of corrections officer Stephen Anderson.
On the morning of June 25, 2007, Anderson escorted Allgier to the University of Utah, where Allgier was scheduled for an MRI, because he had been complaining of back problems.[5] While waiting with Anderson in an examination room at the university's orthopedic center, Allgier was unshackled, then he overpowered and disarmed Anderson, and allegedly shot him in the head.[6] After fleeing the clinic on foot, Allgier carjacked a vehicle, and led police on a high-speed chase.[7] Allgier was captured at a fast food restaurant a few miles away, when a man tackled and held him until the police arrived.[8]
[edit]Prior Arrests and Convictions

Allgier's criminal record begins in 1998 with convictions for theft and reckless driving in South Dakota. He was charged with felony burglary, forgery and theft in Utah during October 2000, after he made a cup of coffee in the neighbor's apartment and made out a stolen check to himself for $300. That month, he was also charged in another county with carrying a concealed handgun and sentenced to 180 days and probation.[9]
Allgier fled Utah in August 2001, which led to a one-to-15-year sentence. Paroled in May 2003, he then was arrested and sent back to prison in July 2004 for traveling to California without authorization, and possessing two knives. He was paroled in October 2006, serving another 27 months in prison. Then in November, he became a fugitive on a parole violation for two days before a Salt Lake City SWAT team arrested him at a local hotel. An armed Allgier barricaded himself for a time inside a room but was captured after he fell through the hotel's ceiling, where he had tried to hide. On June 14, 2006, he was sentenced to 104 months in prison for being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. It was during the course of this incarceration that the 2007 Salt Lake City murder occurred.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Allgier

Doesn't look like he has any hate crime convictions. If his family is willing to pay for it, why not let him cover his tats? People get to change into better clothes for court.

Some states also have organizations that pays for tattoo removal for inmates.

**Kindly One** · September 3rd, 2010, 06:31 PM

Why is it that white supremacists are always such poor genetic specimens? If they're not fat, they're fugly, and if they're not fugly, they grow strange hillbilly chin pubes and get illiterate, poorly done tattoos in stupid places.

**thehesbomb** · September 3rd, 2010, 06:57 PM

Although many morons flock to them Hatebreed is 100% not a racist band. They play NYC hardcore and kick some serious ass.

**Harley_Tech** · September 3rd, 2010, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie

Next thing you know, they will be covering the faces of ugly people on trial.

Why ya always gotta take shots at me?

R

**VXIII** · September 3rd, 2010, 08:01 PM

Looks like Legolas wanted to be an ORK...

**Obsolete** · September 3rd, 2010, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by thehesbomb

Although many morons flock to them Hatebreed is 100% not a racist band. They play NYC hardcore and kick some serious ass.

The article said they were a hardcore punk back who are popular among racists, not that they were a racist band.

Hatebreed is pretty darn good music. Not as good as Fear Factory though :)

**Angelinfl** · September 3rd, 2010, 08:04 PM

I think the Tattoos speak for who and what this person is. This man was under no compulsion to get those tattoos and it was done on his own free will. When you are that tattooed to me there is no expectation of privacy in having that tattoo. It's not like it is on your breast or butt which is a private area. Your face is your identification. It is who you are.

Since this man voluntarily chose to have those tattoos in public areas of his body I think he is stuck with them and during voir dire people can be question on their objectivity in spite of the tattoos.

To change this man into something he is not is deceptive to the jury and to the essence of the person. The jury needs to see the whole picture because a person who choses those tattos made the choice of where to have them placed.

Too bad... but live with the tattoos and roll the dice. Let the evidence speak for itself.

If you are ashamed of the tattos and think they would prejudice a jury you should have thought ahead before you paid for them and selected them.

Too bad... live with your decisions.

**VXIII** · September 3rd, 2010, 08:32 PM

Ill try to post this pic, if not here is the link of this guy before and a pic of his fat ass girlfreind... cant post it so here is the link... http://www.crimerant.com/?p=903

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=420

**Tundratot** · September 4th, 2010, 05:13 AM

It occurs to me that these tattoos are a major aspect of identifying him. If he does a crime, how could a witness or victim not notice them or mention them? That being the case, the witnesses and victim on the stand will have to point to the guy they saw. If he covers up his tattoos, how will they be credibly able to identify him?

Yes, you can dress up for a visit to court, defendants do it all the time. They get hair cuts, wear nice clothes, shave, put a lovely innocent look on their face, but the their faces are not tattooed in order to disguise them. Nor should this guy's tattoos be covered in some way, with makeup or some plastic trash bag.

Let him wear his glasses and a tie, grow his hair out and part it on the side, see if that confuses the witnesses. BTW, I think he could be fairly good looking under all that ink. Maybe he hated his pretty boy looks and wanted to be more bad ass.

**Nell** · September 4th, 2010, 05:40 PM

# JOLENE Says:
November 24th, 2006 at 5:08 am

HE DID NOT TATTOO TO SELF MUTALATE. HE IS VERY ATHLETIC AND HAS AN AMAZING BODY. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO OPINION. HE HAD THE BALLS TO PUT HIS BELIEFS ON HIS ENTIRE BODY AND THATS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR ANYBODY. PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND SOME FAKE BULLSHIT AND PRETEND TO BE SOME ONE THEY’RE NOT. HE IS WHO HE IS AND HE WONT HIDE IT NOR DENY IT. SO YOU CAN ALL HATE ON HIM AND ASSUME WHATEVER. I HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR HIM THROUGH THICK AND THIN AND I EARNED MY NAME ON HIS FOREHEAD. HE LOVES ME AND HE IS DEDICATED TO ME SO THERE YOU GO.

Guess he changed his mind on if he was ashamed of his tats.

Off topic-

Most of the people at CrimeRant seem dumb as hell.

# KK Says:
May 31st, 2007 at 1:29 am

you kno what i think hes very attractive, and id date him..some of u ppl who makes these comments are being just as critical and bias to tattoos… as some ppl are to fat ppl, or retarted ppl…not nice…not at all..and yet you critisize him yet you preach to others for the same thing… i think you ppl need to expand your mind, you only live life once..do what you want…but if your gonna sit on your ass staring at a computer screen chattin about how some one you dont kno and prob will never meet hates himself and all the psycho-babble then u need to stop and take a look at your own life…get a hobby, get a life..do summin

O really? Yes, He is hotness personified!!!! And he does have a hobby, so there is that.....

# 2 D^.3.Pk Says:
May 31st, 2007 at 3:24 pm

i think its kool that he’s brave enuff ta put tats all over his face, n that he kuld kare less wat judgemental ppl think (lyke most of yall morons on this page) i respekt ppl lyke this..

Holy shit!! Is that even English??

And it goes on and on.

**badfish76** · September 4th, 2010, 08:37 PM

or retarted ppl

Retarted? Is that when you are given a second tart???? ROFL!

I'm surprised the second "retart" was able to spell judgmental even close to properly. Surprised they didn't find a way to work a "k" in there.

**Aslan** · September 5th, 2010, 09:01 AM

While I am certainly guilty of not spelling words correctly, it's amazing when people write such a missive and don't pull out spell check.
Also "I seen" drives me absolutely insane, as it is not proper english.
I saw or I did see is proper english.

Sorry, I'm just reading more and more of "I seen" and I'm about to knock someone down (Just got a text a few minutes ago. Apparently a friend seen another friend and they wanted to say hi)