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    Was The Baby Buried In The Backyard?

    Nicole L. Saksek was drunk and on her way to score some heroin in 2007 when she made a startling confession that led police to dig up a Hummelstown backyard Wednesday, police allege in court documents.

    Saksek, 35, told a friend she gave birth on a toilet in 2001 or 2002, according to a police affidavit in support of their search warrant. She said she suffocated the baby, then wrapped it in a plastic garbage bag and buried it in the yard, the affidavit states.

    On Wednesday, police searched the yard of the apartment building in which Saksek lived in the 100 block of North Railroad Street, looking for any trace of a baby. Whether she’s believed to have had a boy or girl was not indicated in the affidavit.

    No charges have been filed. Attempts to reach Saksek and the friend were unsuccessful Thursday. The affidavit does not indicate whether police spoke with Saksek, and Dauphin County Chief Deputy District Attorney Sean McCormack would not say if authorities had spoken with her.

    However, the police affidavit paints a chilling picture of Saksek’s conversation with her friend, which was the basis for a warrant police obtained to conduct the search.

    Dauphin County Coroner Graham Hetrick said that no remains were found that he could examine. But McCormack said police found potential evidence.

    “We did not expect to find skeletal remains,” McCormack said. “We did find items that confirmed information we have been given.”
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    Police said they became aware of the allegations after receiving a report in April from a state parole agent who said one of his parolees, Paul Troiani, reported his girlfriend had told him of Saksek’s confession.

    The girlfriend, Kathryn Forney, 47, told police that Saksek gave her drunken confession as they drove to Harrisburg in 2007 to get heroin, the affidavit states.

    Saksek broke into tears and told Forney about the baby when Forney asked why she was doing so many drugs, the affidavit states. Forney said Saksek told her she was living with her mother at the time, but was able to keep her pregnancy secret, according to the affidavit.

    At this point, the crime being investigated is concealing the death of a child, a first degree misdemeanor, according to the affidavit.

    McCormack would not rule out the possibility of other charges, including homicide. That would be more difficult to prove, he said, because there are no remains on which to perform an autopsy.

    During their search, police used a cadaver dog, which alerted them to an area near a storage shed where they suspected the child had been buried. Ground penetrating radar also showed soil in that area had been disturbed, a possible indication something had been buried there.
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    Rebecca J. Taylor, assistant coordinator of the University of Tennessee’s famed Forensic Anthropology Center said it is doubtful police have much more than dirt to test.

    After almost 10 years, it is unlikely any human bones or tissue would be found, especially in the soil conditions typically found in Pennsylvania, Taylor said.

    “Newborns basically just have the foundation of a skeleton,” Taylor said. “Their long bones are just cartilage.”

    McCormack indicated police found several items they plan to send to a crime lab for testing. McCormack would not confirm if police found evidence of the plastic bag the baby allegedly was buried in. But he did say if they found any plastic they would have it examined.

    If a plastic bag was used to bury the baby, it is likely some pieces might be found, Taylor said. But after this many years, no traces of DNA would remain. Adipocere, a substance often referred to as ‘grave wax,” might also be found, but there is no way to test the soaplike byproduct of decomposed fat for DNA.

    That would leave police with little testable evidence other than dirt. But that ought to be enough to tell them if someone was indeed buried there.

    “Scientists can tell if a decomposition event has happened in the soil that is consistent with humans,” said Taylor. “But the only thing they could tell at this point is the presence of decomposing human remain.”
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    To confess she must feel guilt. I hope she rots one day from it.

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    This reminds me of a time that I was sitting in a court room (for custody cases and such) waiting to testify against my sister (long story), when a couple was up. The woman was so angry with her ex that she blurted out in court that he was an asshole because he made her bury a baby that she delivered at home premature and stillborn in their backyard. I wish I knew what happened with that. The judge acted like it was no big deal and said that was another matter for another time.
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    It is sickening to think that she's going to get off scott free because her victim was too small to have actual bone, and just enough time went by to dissolve the cartilage. I wonder how it happens that we are even hearing about this.
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    I hate to say this but I have to, they dug up some one's yard on what someone said....and that's it? They said this confession was made in 2007 but wasn't told to police till very recently? something about this stinks and I don't just mean the dirt they dug up.

    makes me think anyone can say something like this and turn them into the devil over night.

    Now if it's all true then this woman is a pig deserving of hell however if it was some made up vindictive crap then I seriously hope the news sources who printed up her name and distributed it print some sort of re-traction.

    Hope we get some more information on this, sounds really fishy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerri Blank View Post
    I hate to say this but I have to, they dug up some one's yard on what someone said....and that's it? They said this confession was made in 2007 but wasn't told to police till very recently? something about this stinks and I don't just mean the dirt they dug up.

    makes me think anyone can say something like this and turn them into the devil over night.

    Now if it's all true then this woman is a pig deserving of hell however if it was some made up vindictive crap then I seriously hope the news sources who printed up her name and distributed it print some sort of re-traction.

    Hope we get some more information on this, sounds really fishy to me.
    Yes Jerri, I was thinking on this later and rereading it I have concerns too.
    The affidavit does not indicate whether police spoke with Saksek, and Dauphin County Chief Deputy District Attorney Sean McCormack would not say if authorities had spoken with her.
    At this point, the crime being investigated is concealing the death of a child, a first degree misdemeanor, according to the affidavit.

    ....“We did find items that confirmed information we have been given.”

    McCormack would not rule out the possibility of other charges, including homicide. That would be more difficult to prove, he said, because there are no remains on which to perform an autopsy.
    So its possible she will be charged with homicide and the items found are not remains. What are these items? big leap it seems unless they can tie her to the remains that were found and show cause that someone was buried.

    I could see the search taking place with the confession of Saksek directly to the authorities. I would THINK they would need that otherwise probably cause would be only hearsay? I dunno, they found evidence of something questionable happening but without remains or a confession how can they charge anything really? I hardly know the law well enough so I'm assuming tho it was not said they spoke to her they must have. Very odd indeed.
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    I buried a stillborn kitten eons ago. I got in a morbid mood a few years later and dug it up to see what happened. There was nothing to be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerri Blank View Post
    I hate to say this but I have to, they dug up some one's yard on what someone said....and that's it? They said this confession was made in 2007 but wasn't told to police till very recently? something about this stinks and I don't just mean the dirt they dug up.

    makes me think anyone can say something like this and turn them into the devil over night.

    Now if it's all true then this woman is a pig deserving of hell however if it was some made up vindictive crap then I seriously hope the news sources who printed up her name and distributed it print some sort of re-traction.

    Hope we get some more information on this, sounds really fishy to me.
    They may have had other info that is not reported in the article. Maybe they had proof of a pregnancy but no proof of a baby? Maybe the guy who reported it just heard about it recently and told his probation officer ASAP? Too many questions unanswered in this... but it does sound like they found "something" in the dig. Maybe no bones but hopefully something that can prove it was her baby that ended up there. A garbage bag with her prints on it and a towel with her DNA on it would be helpful...
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    I wonder if she buried it in a pet sematary.

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    Was The Baby Buried In The Backyard?
    So....will there now be a baby tree in the garden?
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    Is mustering in his clouds on our behalf
    Armies of pestilence; and they shall strike
    Your children yet unborn and unbegot,
    That lift your vassal hands against my head
    And threat the glory of my precious crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvahalo68 View Post
    To confess she must feel guilt. I hope she rots one day from it.

    Jonel Ambrosios you will be remembered.
    Not excusing her, but she is rotting from it, apparently... I don't think she's ever going to forget it & she shouldn't.

    When will people ever learn? So many other options than murdering your newborn...

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