Dead Firefighter's Widow Used To Be a Man- Family Wants Marriage Voided

[Mystica43229]

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- The mother and ex-wife of a Wharton firefighter killed in the line of duty have filed suit alleging he did not know his widow used to be a man.

Thomas Araguz was killed in an accidental fire in Boling at an egg farm on July 4.
The suit, filed by Simona Rodriguez Longorio, his mother, and Heather Delgado, his ex-wife, claims his marriage to Nikki Araguz should be declared void because they "were members of the same sex."

The suit sites Texas family code which states such a marriage is "...contrary to public policy and is void in this state."

The court filing contains documents which purport to claim Araguz was born Justin Graham Purdue on June 4, 1975. The court papers also show what appears to be a legal name change on February 9, 1996 of Justin Graham Purdue. The new name listed is Nikki Paige Purdue.

Nikki Araguz has so far declined to respond to our questions about these allegations. Her spokesperson identifies her as Nikki Purdue.

Wharton County Judge Randy Clapp has issued a temporary restraining order, freezing the couple's assets. Nikki Araguz is not allowed to remove, damage or destroy anything in or from the couple's Wharton home.

A hearing on this matter is set for Friday before Judge Clapp.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7562740

[Pete Bondurant]

Poor, stupid bastard.

[brokenandtwisted]

I highly doubt he didn't know she was once a man. I'm pretty sure even if I had an 'abstinent' relationship (oops, that's out the window!) I'd at least see genitalia sometime before marriage.

Truth is, this relationship was probably secretive in that regard. Being from Texas...I don't blame them, however if this woman was legally known as a woman I think this is non-issue.

[Pete Bondurant]

Gay marriage is not legal in Texas.

[silverfae]

I highly doubt he didn't know she was once a man. I'm pretty sure even if I had an 'abstinent' relationship (oops, that's out the window!) I'd at least see genitalia sometime before marriage.

Truth is, this relationship was probably secretive in that regard. Being from Texas...I don't blame them, however if this woman was legally known as a woman I think this is non-issue.

If she actually had surgery, I think it would be pretty hard to tell. Sex change surgeries are pretty sophisticated these days and the results look pretty normal from what I saw when I looked it up.

Apparently, it is also legal to change your gender on your birth certificate in Texas so if she did that too, I don't think these other people have a leg to stand on.

[brokenandtwisted]

If she actually had surgery, I think it would be pretty hard to tell. Sex change surgeries are pretty sophisticated these days and the results look pretty normal from what I saw when I looked it up.

Apparently, it is also legal to change your gender on your birth certificate in Texas so if she did that too, I don't think these other people have a leg to stand on.

Depends on where you go...and how much cash you fork out.

I don't think this is a valid case. If she's living as a woman there really isn't a point...

[Valasca]

I'm betting the wife gets a substantial amount of money from Life Insurance, State, firehouse, whatever and the family just wants to keep it for themselves.
Fucking idiots. She's a woman, so what if she was born a man.

[Pete Bondurant]

Fucking idiots. She's a woman, so what if she was born a man.

.....then....it really is not a woman, is it?

[brokenandtwisted]

.....then....it really is not a woman, is it?

woman

wom·an [wmmən]
(plural wom·en [wímmin])

noun

1. female adult: an adult female human being
2. women as group: women collectively or in general
3. femininity: feminine qualities or feelings
4. domestic employee: a woman who is a domestic employee (sometimes offensive)
5. wife or girlfriend: a wife, female lover, or girlfriend (informal) (sometimes offensive)


[ Old English wimman, variant of wīfman, < wīf "woman, wife" + man "person"]

[Pete Bondurant]

Do you think this creature has a woman's DNA structure? If not...then it is a man.


Fucking communists.

[Twisted]

woman

wom·an [wmmən]
(plural wom·en [wímmin])

noun

1. female adult: an adult female human being
2. women as group: women collectively or in general
3. femininity: feminine qualities or feelings
4. domestic employee: a woman who is a domestic employee (sometimes offensive)
5. wife or girlfriend: a wife, female lover, or girlfriend (informal) (sometimes offensive)


[ Old English wimman, variant of wīfman, < wīf "woman, wife" + man "person"]

Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily answer the question, as even legally there is debate about whether a person's sex can actually be changed, or whether the surgery is just a mutilation of the person's physical body in order to make it match their perceived ideal of it.

[brokenandtwisted]

Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily answer the question, as even legally there is debate about whether a person's sex can actually be changed, or whether the surgery is just a mutilation of the person's physical body in order to make it match their perceived ideal of it.

Obviously it's the latter of the two, but that does not define what is to be of a person.

[Valasca]

I don't understand how a penis or a vagina defines.
Ask a straight man... if he lost his penis is some bizarre accident, is he still a man? The answer is YES.
When woman get mastectomies, are they still women? YES!

[Mystica43229]

If you want to get technical- women do have penises; the clitoris is basically a small penis.

[Valasca]

If you want to get technical- women do have penises; the clitoris is basically a small penis.

Just so. I have seen Joanie "Chyna" Laurel's penis.
Ew.

[DamagedGoods]

I wonder why they care, I'm betting money, and I'm betting they'll claim its something along the lines of his widow betraying him or whatever. Even if it is the betrayal, wtf is the ex doing involved? Why bring it to light now? Why not say, before he married her perhaps. To bring it up now is just to stir shit... it profits nothing morally.

I'd love to know which one of them found out first and how.. and why. Who randomly looks that shit up? I don't know about any of you, but if my son just died, I don't think I'd start trying to make sure his wife was a woman.

[Mystica43229]

I think they are money hungry and want it all. He obviously loved her and that's why he married her. How do they know he didn't know? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But they need to get a grip and let this woman grieve and quit giving her grief. Some people never grow up.

[cubby]

You might not be specifically trying to find out if she was born female but it would probably come out as the result of any kind of indepth search. they could have hired someone to look her up. The purpose would be the oldest ones in the world, greed, jealousy. Probably like Amazon said they want to keep her from collecting any insurance from his death. Might be, the EX thinks or even knows, that if not for the new wife she would have been in line for some of it. I'm sure his family would have been if he had been single.

Greed and Jealousy is all it is. And really if this person legally did every thing right and had the name change and gender change and whatever, and the new husband, whether he knew or not, accepted her as his wife then the rest of the folks should just STFU and move on .

[MC30]

its bullshit. if she still had a winky, he knew. if it had been turned into a woo-woo, maybe not. but im sure it provided him with as much pleasure as any woo-woo would.
the family needs to shut the fuck up and back the fuck out.

nice that the ex and moms are in cahoots. nice.

[Gidget]

the family needs to shut the fuck up and back the fuck out.

Exactly. Poor woman. Isn't it bad enough she lost her husband, now she has to go through this shit?

[MC30]

[quote fire in Boling at an egg farm on July 4.
][/quote]
im an ass i read it as boiling egg farm.

[malq]

Marry a shemale and be prepared for a mess. Of course he knew. No one is that stupid.


LOL I bet he's rolling over in his grave. This is the fucking he gets for the fucking he got, or not.

[VXIII]

Biologically, this is a man, if you do a DNA test, hes still a man, I dont agree with the families shit though, they are just trying to take whatever $$$ he left, whether he is considered a man or a woman, its who he loved and chose to spend his life with, family should stay out of it and quit being so damned greedy for his firemans pension...

[biteme]

I don't understand how a penis or a vagina defines.
Ask a straight man... if he lost his penis is some bizarre accident, is he still a man? The answer is YES.
When woman get mastectomies, are they still women? YES!

I think you just confirmed she's still a man no matter what physical changes she had done
I think he had the relationship he wanted, and the family just wants the money
just a greedy bunch

[HijabiGirl]

Gender versus sex of a person is not as black and white as we think. You think an XY chromosome makes a male? Do you know Jamie Lee Curtis has an XY chromosome yet was born with a citores, vulva and what is referred to as a "blind pouch" for a vagina? This is known as androgen insensitivity syndrome. Curtis has testicles where a "normal" female has ovaries, they had to be removed because testicles in such a warm place tend to get cancer. She wrote about this in her book so it's not an urban legend. People with this syndrome always "feel" female.

Then there is Kleinfelter's syndrome, this a someone with an XXY chromosome. Physically they appear to be male, they identify with being male. However they are often sterile and have a slightly feminine habitus.

Then we have someone who is born completely one sex (genetically and genitally) and yet feel with every fiber of their being they've been given the wrong body. They feel this very young, even before puberty. Previously they were diagnosed as mentally ill and shunned by society. But science is catching up and certain evidences are starting to point towards a biological cause. Do you know men and women have slightly different structures to their brains? Men tend to have thinner corpus callosums and women tend to have thicker ones. Also the brains function differently as well. People with gender identity disorder often have "opposite" brains than their physical sex. In other words, their gender doesn't match their sex.

So now we have the issue of law. Most law books are being admended to fit this changing perception of what gender really is. As far as I know you can have your license and other identifying information changed if you go through sexual reassignment surgery. So for all intents and purposes you are the sex that you've been altered to be. And disclosure to your spouse is not a requirement...think about the legal nightmare of this if someone were born with ambiguious genitalia, oy vey!

So most likely the ex-wife and the mom have their eyes set on his insurance money. Most likely the husband knew this woman was born a man and his immediate family was aware as well. Legally they will not have a leg to stand on, even if the new bride did not disclose her status as a previously physical male.

[Twisted]

Gender versus sex of a person is not as black and white as we think. You think an XY chromosome makes a male? Do you know Jamie Lee Curtis has an XY chromosome yet was born with a citores, vulva and what is referred to as a "blind pouch" for a vagina? This is known as androgen insensitivity syndrome. Curtis has testicles where a "normal" female has ovaries, they had to be removed because testicles in such a warm place tend to get cancer. She wrote about this in her book so it's not an urban legend. People with this syndrome always "feel" female.

Then there is Kleinfelter's syndrome, this a someone with an XXY chromosome. Physically they appear to be male, they identify with being male. However they are often sterile and have a slightly feminine habitus.

Then we have someone who is born completely one sex (genetically and genitally) and yet feel with every fiber of their being they've been given the wrong body. They feel this very young, even before puberty. Previously they were diagnosed as mentally ill and shunned by society. But science is catching up and certain evidences are starting to point towards a biological cause. Do you know men and women have slightly different structures to their brains? Men tend to have thinner corpus callosums and women tend to have thicker ones. Also the brains function differently as well. People with gender identity disorder often have "opposite" brains than their physical sex. In other words, their gender doesn't match their sex.

So now we have the issue of law. Most law books are being admended to fit this changing perception of what gender really is. As far as I know you can have your license and other identifying information changed if you go through sexual reassignment surgery. So for all intents and purposes you are the sex that you've been altered to be. And disclosure to your spouse is not a requirement...think about the legal nightmare of this if someone were born with ambiguious genitalia, oy vey!

So most likely the ex-wife and the mom have their eyes set on his insurance money. Most likely the husband knew this woman was born a man and his immediate family was aware as well. Legally they will not have a leg to stand on, even if the new bride did not disclose her status as a previously physical male.

Thank you for this, HG. You clearly know your stuff.