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    As for this article, I have said it already, but I will say it again. I am really glad that this mother jumped right on her daughter's side, no questions asked. I wish all mothers in the same situation would do the same thing.
    I also envy that she had that complete trust in this man, it's just a shame and completely his fault, that he broke that trust in the worst way possible. I seriously hope this young girl will be able to heal and I hope that he gets the book thrown at his ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrot Toes View Post
    I want to say that while you are very offended by my statement that I don't trust men (though I also said I don't trust women), I'm also very offended that you are trying to make me seem like a terrible person.

    I was not nasty at all in any of my posts. I wasn't rude or obnoxious. In fact, I even mentioned how I thought it was great that you and others had that 100% trust in your men and how I envied you. I showed support and understanding for your viewpoint. I know that Cholita is the one who got "slapped" here, but I feel I did as well because I share the same distrust.

    I think I explained well enough my reasons for the .1% distrust (which really is a small amount)that I have for my husband, though I really owed no explanation. I don't think I should be made to feel bad for that. I also said that I'm sure not all men are not trustworthy, I just haven't met any yet.

    It's funny, because on the DD, when a man does something to their child/stepchild/girlfriends child, the majority of posters agree with my viewpoint or at least understand I have reasons for it. On the forums, to post my views is a "horribly offensive statement"?

    I wasn't going to post anymore on this. I don't want to debate this and it really does detract from the topic of this thread, but you are not the only one offended right now. I don't want to anger you either or have you "set me to ignore". I have read other posts of yours before and you seem very reasonable and I would value your opinion as much as anyone else's. Let's just move on from this topic.
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    Lizard, I think that's great that you had that love and affection from your father. My father, for his faults, had amazing things about him that I wouldn't trade for a thing. It isn't my father who caused me the worst harm either.

    My husband adores his kids and his kids love him loads. He is not though a man to take just one of them on a trip or whatnot. He doesn't hunt, fish, take in sports or any of that stuff. Anything that is done with the kids (trips, overnights ect.) is done as a family. I have never needed to worry about him taking the kids anywhere alone. My fear, is just this tiny voice in the back of my head that says don't trust anyone IF the situation arised for one of them to be alone with him or anyone. I really don't believe it has affected any of my children because there has never been a situation for it to come out. We have no extended family near us that would take any of them anywhere alone. I know that is sad in itself, but that is how it has worked out for us.

    I suppose I am saying that in a hypothetical situation, I would probably decide against it. It's just the way I think. Also, I have 4 kids. For either my husband or myself to do one on one stuff with any one of them is very hard, and when it is done, it isn't much more than just a lunch or trip to the mall for a few hours.

    My kids are not distrusting of people because I have demonstrated my distrust, the opportunities really have never been there. They are ignorant of my past and I keep these types of feelings to myself. I have done so much work (in the face of a major mental illness that I have only learned that I have in the past 3 years) on raising my kids to be responsible, happy, thoughtful, mindful, independent, easy going, understanding and lawful. I have also taught them to be cautious, but not because I have trust issues, but because living in a major city where the crime rate is high, demands it. Society today everywhere demands it.

    I believe in teaching stranger danger AND friendly danger, but that does not mean I teach my kids to be suspicious of our friends and family, just to always be aware and mindful. I think I am being misunderstood on this thread as to how my personal feelings of mistrust are handled around my children. They are just that, MY personal feelings. They have had babysitters for an evening and of course during childbirth I guess, my husband was alone with them when they were younger, but of course I was also highly stressed. I guess the opportunities were there then.

    Ugh, I just don't know what else to say except that I wish I had the ability to trust completely in my partner like some of you. Circumstances of my life will probably never allow that. Part of my Borderline is that I have a hard time with seeing people as completely good. I always have suspicious turned on. I don't know if that will ever change, but rest assured, my children are my priority in life and raising them with as little hurt as possible while teaching them all the good things we all want for our children to learn, like I mentioned above, is what I do with them.
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    As for this article, I have said it already, but I will say it again. I am really glad that this mother jumped right on her daughter's side, no questions asked. I wish all mothers in the same situation would do the same thing.
    I also envy that she had that complete trust in this man, it's just a shame and completely his fault, that he broke that trust in the worst way possible. I seriously hope this young girl will be able to heal and I hope that he gets the book thrown at his ass!
    Parrot Toes--i actually meant to respond specifically to you last night and did not because I was so totally exhausted I think I actually passed out at some time this morning (my sleeping patterns suck). I wish I would have because I feel that I have done something truly insulting because you took the time to reply last night and it seems that I've brushed you off--which is rude. I apologize for that.

    What I was going to say last night is that your explanation made more sense than the assumptions I originally made by some of your first posts, but honestly I didn't have a totally objective opinion at first of your posts and did not clarify that. I have always hated the baggage we're forced to carry after something really unfair happens to us, it feels like a continuous form of abuse that we must suffer from the original assault (and that's counting emotional assaults along with all the physical variations).

    Your actions and personal reactions reflect that and it's something that I think sucks but not sucks in terms of what you do to deal with it. After reading your further explanations, I feel that you are not endorsing hatred of men as a gender or that you ever meant that you worry your husband would abuse your daughter based on the fact that he's a man and helpless to some sort of demon in men. That is the attitude I am vehemently opposed to and which I feel is a judgmental and insulting attitude. Not what you were actually saying, which is an understandable reaction to your trauma.

    I am not perfect and do not expect perfection in others. I am an extremely emotional person and have to force myself to coldly examine things before I am comfortable with my eventual opinion, and in that I have realized that there are too many shades of gray in almost any situation. Combined with a sense of decisiveness and annoyance/avoidance at being wishy-washy, I'm usually making a decision/opinion, but further elaborating on the views I also take of that. In this case, if it mattered (and it honestly does not matter how I feel because I'm of course in no place of importance in your life :) ), coldly and logically I'd say that it's "wrong" to stay with a man if he's hurt you, but emotionally and realistically, I'd say that your situation is quite different than if you honestly thought your man would hurt your daughter, and I think I read that your kids are adults now anyway, right? Sorry if that was wrong; sometimes I am a ditz at keeping who does/has/is what on here.

    I'm sure there are many people here who spent time with guys who did hurt their children and kick themselves every day because later they came to the courage and understanding to leave. I would never, ever condemn anyone forever for that mindset. My mom had that overall belief, and that harmed me in many ways. I have done things that I spend much agony over in my guilt because it could have harmed my own daughter, or perhaps things that did, when I was too ignorant to see what was happening to her. I'm sure that today there is something in my parenting style that is somehow not great, and maybe one day I'll have a sudden insight about that. The "normal" ones who love our children want to be able to be perfect, never want to hurt them in any way, and want to make sure that every decision leads to betterment rather than mistakes. But unfortunately the only people who really say they're perfect and never made mistakes or never will are delusional, not correct.

    So please forgive me because it seemed that I was picking on you personally or that I may have ignored you--I have no one at this site set to ignore and probably won't. In real life I value the ability to keep disagreement limited to the subject I disagree with and move on when the subject changes. I do the same thing on here; if I disagree with you heartedly in one thread, it doesn't mean that I wouldn't be completely in agreement on another, or that I would not be enriched by a dissenting opinion elsewhere.

    *huggers* I am truly sorry for what you've suffered and I hate like hell that you are so unsure and feel unsafe. I wish I could help you and anyone else in situations like that and I'm smart enough to know that it is only by great luck and the stubborness of a great man that I am currently happy. I've been unhappy for a great portion of my life and I know that happiness and the blessing of great friends/family is not something that depends on the ability of a person but by the luck of placement.
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    <<<Hugs>>> right back atchya ScribbleMuse.

    Just a couple things. My kids are aged 11-18, almost there. Also, I don't live in fear of my hubby at all. I highly doubt he would ever hurt his kids, really I do. It's just the insecure and paranoid part of me that gives me that .1% doubt. Really, it is a personal problem though, in no way shown outwardly.

    Oi, this was one interesting thread.

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    Okaaay lets try this again.....

    Im glad this little girls mother was smart enough to give her the best possible course of action for the situation she was in. Hopefully in time she will overcome the trauma she has experienced...

    I hope they are able to track the route and charge him in every jurisdiction possible so that he can have a nice long prison stay.
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    This is the best fucking idea ive read all day!! Kudos o you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Sin View Post



    This is the best fucking idea ive read all day!! Kudos o you!!
    My understanding is that local LE is trying to do that so that authorities in those jurisdictions can have the option. One of the articles I read stated that they had taken her to The Children's Center. It is a one stop shop kind of place where victims of child abuse are able to be examined, interviewed by a forensic child abuse interrogator and that is video taped.

    The interviews are done rooms that look like home settings and there is a two way mirror where LE and social services can observe. The interviewer had an ear piece so that LE can communicate their needs with the interviewer in real time so that the child only has to tell the story once and the state gets the best possible statement without traumatizing the victim by making them retell it over and over. Hopefully that tape will be usable by any other agencies so that she doesn't have to keep telling the story.
    "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

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    A Newton County jury deliberated 22 minutes Wednesday before convicting a truck driver from Alabama of sexually abusing his 12-year-old stepdaughter a year ago at a Joplin truck stop.

    Delbert F. Glover, 50, of Hatton, Ala., was convicted on all three counts of statutory sodomy that he was facing in a single-day trial in Newton County Circuit Court in Neosho.

    Circuit Judge Tim Perigo set Glover’s sentencing hearing for Dec. 19. Each of the counts carries from 10 to 30 years or up to life in prison in Missouri.

    The girl, now 13, testified that the abuse took place at more than one location while she was on a trip with Glover to California in his tractor-trailer. But the trial concerned only those acts that allegedly took place the night of June 21, 2010, at the Pilot truck stop on Interstate 44 in Joplin.

    The case came to the attention of law enforcement when the girl ran inside the truck stop wearing nothing more than a T-shirt and sought help on the advice of her mother, who she had called on a cellphone.

    The girl told the court that she had been excited to accompany her stepfather on the cross-country haul because she had never been to California. Glover had been involved with her mother for more than six years, and he had been good to her, the girl said. He was the only father she had ever known, she told the court.

    On the trip, they stopped at a Hooters restaurant, and he bought her some shorts and a T-shirt like those the restaurant’s waitresses wore. At nights in the truck’s cab, they would sleep together in the bed but with their clothes on, the girl said.

    In California, he took her to the beach and she got to swim in the ocean, but that’s also where he began acting inappropriately with her, she testified. She said his sexual misconduct continued on their way back at a stop in Texas and again in Joplin.

    She said that inside the truck’s cab on the night in question, he plied her with a wine cooler, had her dance naked for him on the bed, played a pornographic movie on his television and sexually abused her in more than one manner.

    “He told me that night in Joplin that he was going to leave my mom, but he wasn’t going to leave me,”
    the girl testified.

    Assistant Prosecutors Bill Dobbs and Shellé Riley also called the girl’s mother, a deputy and a detective as witnesses for the state.

    The girl’s mother told the court that she had let her daughter go with Glover because there had been no previous indications of any inappropriate desire for her daughter on the part of her husband. She said the first she learned of it was when her daughter called her from the truck stop in Joplin.

    She said the girl at first would not tell her what had happened, other than that Glover had been drinking. She said her daughter was extremely upset, and she told her she needed to calm down and then call her back. When the girl called her again a few moments later, she told her: “Daddy’s trying to have sex with me.”

    The mother said she didn’t believe she heard her correctly and asked her to repeat what she said. When she did, the mother told her to run inside the truck stop and hand the phone to the first adult she saw. Testimony showed that the girl did just that, the truck stop manager was put on the phone with the mother, and the Newton County Sheriff’s Department was summoned.

    Deputy Brendon Lammers testified that the defendant told him at the truck stop: “I guess I’m going to have to get a new girlfriend.” Lammers said he asked Glover why, and he replied: “’Cause this is over.”

    The prosecution also played an audiotape of an interview of Glover by Detective Oren Barnes during which the defendant admitted committing at least one sex act with the girl that night. He also came close to acknowledging both other acts that the girl alleged took place, although he claimed that he had not intentionally participated in either of those.

    Glover claimed that he fell asleep and woke up in a compromising position with the girl, and that he pushed her off and told her to go call her mother and tell her what had happened.

    Glover chose not to testify in his own defense. His public defender, Maleia Cheney, told jurors in closing arguments that her client’s contact with the girl had taken place in his sleep after drinking, just as he had told the deputy in the taped interview. Cheney suggested that the girl had exaggerated to her mother and law enforcement what had happened because she knew her mother and Glover were not getting along, and “this way she gets rid of the problem.

    Cheney introduced a letter into evidence that the mother had presented to her client after his arrest. The letter sought his consent to a divorce and the transfer of all their marital property to her.
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    THE JUDGE RULED before the trial that prosecutors could not elicit specific testimony as to what Delbert Glover allegedly did to his stepdaughter in other states during their trip because of its prejudicial nature. But the judge did allow testimony that there had been unspecified acts of a sexual nature in California and in Texas leading up to the alleged offenses in Missouri.
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    Posted: Jun 22, 2010 3:23 PM CDT Updated: Dec 21, 2011 5:20 PM CST

    Delbert Glover Delbert Glover

    An Alabama trucker convicted of repeatedly raping a 12 year old more than a year ago has been convicted and has learned his sentence.

    Authorities say at around 10:30 p.m. on Monday June 21, 2010 a 12 year old girl wearing only a t-shirt ran into the Pilot Truck Stop near I-44. The girl reported that she had been on the road for nine days with a relative, Delbert Glover, then 48, of Alabama, and that she had been repeatedly raped by him.

    Another relative from Alabama drove to Newton County picked up the victim and took her home.

    Glover was arrested and has since been convicted of three counts of statutory sodomy and will serve 27 years for each count concurrently.
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    My uncle is a truck driver, I have seen a good portion of the US because of him. My mom trusts him completely. Back when I was a kid he took me camping, fishing, hunting, sightseeing, I had a blast. Not all men take kids with them because they have an ulterior motive, my uncle just wanted to make sure I had fun as a kid because my parents worked all the time. I have great memories of being with him and doing things I would have never been able to do if it weren't for him.
    I love my mom because she loves me and she is a great mom she loves me so much she bought me a psp that stands for playstation portable.


    From my son, Mother's Day 2012.

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    I agree, @Aena. It sucks that guys like this do horrible things because it makes us all so paranoid of people taking an interest in kids for the sake of the kids having good experiences.

    When I was little my mom was very good friends with a man who later became my step-dad. He did TONS of stuff with me. I remember him helping with my Halloween costumes, fishing, camping, amusement parks, the list goes on and on. He was a good guy that was raised by raging alcoholics and he just wanted a chance to relive his childhood to a degree and he did it thru me. The worst things he ever did was yell at me when I was a teen trying to keep me from making terrible mistakes.

    I know there are still good men like that out there and we just don't hear about them. Instead we get to hear about these fucking POS monsters that are only out to get their sick fucking jollies.
    "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

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    So true @badfish76 my uncle is awesome! I know there are tons of guys out there who are truly want to spend time with kids to either relive their childhoods or just to make sure a kid has a chance to be a kid. My parents both worked all the time, my uncle was there for me when I needed him to be, still is.

    I am so glad your mom found such a wonderful guy, most people when given a chance are good guys. It is just the few that tarnish everyone else and worry us so much. I would let my kids go on the road with my uncle in a heartbeat, they would be better off for it, seeing parts of the country that I cannot afford to take them to see.

    I remember when I was staying with my uncle for a week, we seen a commercial for the Titanic exhibit that was going to be at Six-Flag in Ohio. He just decided we were going on a road trip, spur of the moment LOL We packed all the kids up after sleeping for about five hours and took off, was a blast! That's the kind of guy my uncle is, he is so much fun and does stuff for the kids, no matter what their age is.
    I love my mom because she loves me and she is a great mom she loves me so much she bought me a psp that stands for playstation portable.


    From my son, Mother's Day 2012.

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