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Thread: Should we sterilize in extreme cases?

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    It's interesting that DNA was brought up. In recent years there has been a strange uprising of men who keep their daughter(s) prisoners and rape them...produce offpsring...and continue the string of abuse on said offspring. (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth) DNA proves conclusively that these men raped their daughters while minors (children born to daughter before age of majority) but they most likely will serve time and eventually be released.

    These men, who've been proven 100% guilty through DNA evidence, should not have their right to reproduce taken away? So in effect we are saying that their right to reproduce supercedes the right of their future victims. And we all know the recidivism rate of pedophiles, don't we? So future victims are really a given when it comes to pedophiles.

    I am speaking about extreme cases here, where evidence is not questionable, where offenses have been repeated and repeated. There has to be a line we draw in the sand when it comes to lifetime reoffenders. Murderers get released everyday, one's that have commited murder beyond a shadow of a doubt. So pedophiles definitely won't serve life for such a...minor offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HijabiGirl View Post
    It's interesting that DNA was brought up. In recent years there has been a strange uprising of men who keep their daughter(s) prisoners and rape them...produce offpsring...and continue the string of abuse on said offspring. (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth) DNA proves conclusively that these men raped their daughters while minors (children born to daughter before age of majority) but they most likely will serve time and eventually be released.

    These men, who've been proven 100% guilty through DNA evidence, should not have their right to reproduce taken away? So in effect we are saying that their right to reproduce supercedes the right of their future victims. And we all know the recidivism rate of pedophiles, don't we? So future victims are really a given when it comes to pedophiles.

    I am speaking about extreme cases here, where evidence is not questionable, where offenses have been repeated and repeated. There has to be a line we draw in the sand when it comes to lifetime reoffenders. Murderers get released everyday, one's that have commited murder beyond a shadow of a doubt. So pedophiles definitely won't serve life for such a...minor offense.
    Again, in a civil society, the solution is to keep dangerous people incarcerated - NOT to mutilate them.

    Surely you understand that rendering them incapable of procreating is not rendering them incapable of reoffending. Predatory individuals will simply shift their scope in many cases.

    My point regarding DNA, however, has to do with the recent Israeli discovery that DNA evidence can be forged rather simply. As we've learned in other cases, it can also be planted.

    In a human-run system, nothing is 100%.
    "Now that ceaseless exposure has calloused us to the lewd and the vulgar, it is instructive to see what still seems wicked to us. What still slaps the clammy flab of our submissive consciousness hard enough to get our attention?"

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    Adding to what Athena said, the fathers in such situations should be psychologically assessed. Are they raping their daughters because the taboo is sexual? Raping their daughters because they are their daughters? What is the potential toward re-offending? There's a myriad of questions to ask and issues to discuss regarding parents raping their offspring. It is not so cut/dry even with DNA analysis.

    It's been stated dozens of times over the years here with evidence to support that incarceration is cheaper than capital punishment and the likes. Personally, as a misanthropic sadist at times...twenty-five years in a cell is far worse than death.

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