Father leaves gun on bed and 2-year old shoots 3-year old

**Mommyof2** · June 10th, 2010, 06:19 PM

A 30 year old father is in jail after he left a loaded gun on a bed in reach of his two young daughters. The two year old somehow got her hands on the gun and shot her three year old sister in the hand. The two year old received burns to her lips from the gun powder. The Father rushed the child to a local hospital. The child was then moved to a childrens hospital. Other than that we have had no word on either child's condition. The police are looking to charge the father with child endangerment and a felon in possession of a firearm. The mother of the two girls was not home at the time of the shooting. This story leaves me thinking what mother would leave her kids with a felon with a gun in the first place. But when you consider this took place in Flint, Michigan it is not that surprising. Seems mothers out there care more about their men than the saftely of their children. It just makes me sick!

Here is a link to the story

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde...ear-old_s.html

**Dneilz** · June 10th, 2010, 06:23 PM

Thank God the little one didn't get killed.

**Obsolete** · June 10th, 2010, 06:26 PM

The felony charge could have been anything, not necessarily something to cause woman to worry about leaving her kids home with their father.

My old co-worker recieved unemployment when she shouldn't have. She has a felony conviction for that. Doesn't mean she shouldn't be alone with her kids.

I have no idea what this guy did to become a felon I'm just saying it might not have been anything that the mom would have worried about. All that aside, this guy is a dumbass. The 2 yr old probably couldn't have crawled onto the bed her self which means he probably knowingly left her on the bed with a loaded gun,... wtf was he thinking?

**Mommyof2** · June 10th, 2010, 06:47 PM

My concern was that somebody who is a felon and is breaking the rules by having a gun could be caught and taken off to jail at any moment. I once dated a guy who was on parole he was not allowed to have a gun or any drugs or alcohol in our home. His parole officer often showed up to do random searches of our home. Had they found anything he would have been taken to jail and charged. That said he may not have been on parole anymore and I could be wrong. But as a mother if I knew the parole officer could show up at any minute and catch my boyfriend with a gun. Leaving my kids with him would not be an option. Think about it if he goes to jail who takes the kids? The state does and I would never want my kids to go through that even in it was only for a few minutes.

**Obsolete** · June 10th, 2010, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mommyof2

My concern was that somebody who is a felon and is breaking the rules by having a gun could be caught and taken off to jail at any moment. I once dated a guy who was on parole he was not allowed to have a gun or any drugs or alcohol in our home. His parole officer often showed up to do random searches of our home. Had they found anything he would have been taken to jail and charged. That said he may not have been on parole anymore and I could be wrong. But as a mother if I knew the parole officer could show up at any minute and catch my boyfriend with a gun. Leaving my kids with him would not be an option. Think about it if he goes to jail who takes the kids? The state does and I would never want my kids to go through that even in it was only for a few minutes.

ok ok I give... I didnt even consider that and it makes total sense. Kind of like I dont think weed is a big deal and I don't care if ppl smoke it or not but I won't let it in my house for the simple fact that it could get my kids taken away.

gotcha :)

**Rawrehz** · June 10th, 2010, 06:48 PM

Yeah, you can get a felony just for looking at someone the wrong way nowadays. such a pity..

the dad was a dumbass for sure and should definitley be punished to some degree just to learn from his dumbass-ness. But thank the heavens above no one was killed and hopefully both babies will pull through.

**akika666** · June 10th, 2010, 06:52 PM

holy crap. i've always been staunchly in favor of responsible private gun ownership, but it's sooo dicey when you're talking about guns around kids. one second of inattention is all it takes.

thank god the child is going to be OK.

**Valasca** · June 10th, 2010, 06:57 PM

What kind of scum sucking gutter whore piece of shit leaves a loaded gun on the bed?
It's almost like he WANTED the children to get ahold of it.

**Obsolete** · June 10th, 2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Amazon

What kind of scum sucking gutter whore piece of shit leaves a loaded gun on the bed?
It's almost like he WANTED the children to get ahold of it.

dayyyuuummnnn thats some impressive language! :)

**Obsolete** · June 10th, 2010, 07:23 PM

My first thought was what kind or gun was it as most have a trigger that needs a bit of force in able to go off, not something a 2 yr old could do on her own but then I thought if dad had helped or "staged" it then the 3 yr old would probably have had most extensive injuries than just her hand?

Dunno... I'm thinking too much.

**akika666** · June 10th, 2010, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Obsolete

My first thought was what kind or gun was it as most have a trigger that needs a bit of force in able to go off, not something a 2 yr old could do on her own but then I thought if dad had helped or "staged" it then the 3 yr old would probably have had most extensive injuries than just her hand?

Dunno... I'm thinking too much.

yeah it doesn't sound so much like he was CONSCIOUSLY trying to get the kid shot, more like he wasn't CONSCIOUSLY trying NOT to get the kid shot. which is awful enough.

**redsaid** · June 10th, 2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Obsolete

My first thought was what kind or gun was it as most have a trigger that needs a bit of force in able to go off, not something a 2 yr old could do on her own but then I thought if dad had helped or "staged" it then the 3 yr old would probably have had most extensive injuries than just her hand?

Dunno... I'm thinking too much.

I think I'm with you on this. Maybe he set the gun down "for a minute??" and turned around to see the child holding it. Grabbing it out of the child hands guns goes off? Still doesn't seem right. Maybe the shild was putting the gun in her mouth and the guy grabbed it and it went off, hence the burns.

It just seems fishy to me...

**ineedanap** · June 10th, 2010, 11:29 PM

If the 2 yo had gun powder burns on her lips, she likely was holding the gun right in front of her face trying to "aim". She's lucky the recoil didn't knock her out. Of course I don't know what kind of weapon it was, it could have been a pussy ass 9.

**Silvahalo** · June 11th, 2010, 01:26 AM

The children were fortunate. I don't think the luck will run twice.

I'm torn on guns. I want one but don't 'cause of the kids. My 6 yo. finds EVERYTHING. Does not matter where i put something he finally gets to it. I just wouldn't feel safe with a gun in the home with kids.

SO happy the child was not killed. Horrific for both of them.

**Obsolete** · June 11th, 2010, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by silvahalo68

The children were fortunate. I don't think the luck will run twice.

I'm torn on guns. I want one but don't 'cause of the kids. My 6 yo. finds EVERYTHING. Does not matter where i put something he finally gets to it. I just wouldn't feel safe with a gun in the home with kids.

SO happy the child was not killed. Horrific for both of them.

I'm with you on the being torn part.

I was raised around guns my entire life. Before I was old enough to understand what they were and the dangers associated with them my parents kept them out of my reach. Once I was old enough to know what they were I was taught to respect them and never play with them. Because the men in my family were hunters it wasn't uncommon to see a rifle propped in the corner of the room or laying on the floor behind the recliner (again this is after I was taught not to play with them).

On my 12th birthday I was given a 22 and a 30-06 for my birthday, neither of which I liked as I preferred to bow-hunt. Anyways.. my point is that guns are perfect safe in the hands of responsible people who know how to handle them, same as a vehicle...they are dangerous and can kill people if the operator doesn't know how to drive.

**CiaraLuna** · June 11th, 2010, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Obsolete

.. my point is that guns are perfect safe in the hands of responsible people who know how to handle them...

I agree. We own several guns, locked away (unloaded) in a safe, far away from my child or any of my child's things. Most of them are hunting rifles, but we do have 2 handguns as well. My husband is a hunter, he also prefers to bow hunt, so the guns are rarely out of the safe. He mostly uses his black powder and 30-06 on those designated gun hunting weeks. I however am NOT a hunter, I could never willingly kill something unless it was attacking me. We did go target shooting and skeet shooting a lot before we had a child, and that was so much fun! I am thankful that I know how to use a gun properly, but, at the same time I hope to never actually have the need to use one to protect myself.

**akika666** · June 11th, 2010, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by CiaraLuna

I agree. We own several guns, locked away (unloaded) in a safe, far away from my child or any of my child's things. Most of them are hunting rifles, but we do have 2 handguns as well. My husband is a hunter, he also prefers to bow hunt, so the guns are rarely out of the safe. He mostly uses his black powder and 30-06 on those designated gun hunting weeks. I however am NOT a hunter, I could never willingly kill something unless it was attacking me. We did go target shooting and skeet shooting a lot before we had a child, and that was so much fun! I am thankful that I know how to use a gun properly, but, at the same time I hope to never actually have the need to use one to protect myself.

yes, i can't understand how hunting is fun, but target and skeet shooting is a blast! literally! i love the explosion, the recoil, the smoke, the burning hot shells.

**redsaid** · June 11th, 2010, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by akika666

yes, i can't understand how hunting is fun, but target and skeet shooting is a blast! literally! i love the explosion, the recoil, the smoke, the burning hot shells.

me too!

**CiaraLuna** · June 11th, 2010, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by akika666

yes, i can't understand how hunting is fun, but target and skeet shooting is a blast! literally! i love the explosion, the recoil, the smoke, the burning hot shells.

LOL, every time my hubby goes out hunting, I always wish that he comes back without killing something. Usually, my wish comes true.

He is not a greedy hunter though. He usually kills 2-3 deer a year, and we eat it. He makes a kick ass deer bologna! He also will give it away to his co-workers who want the meat but don't want to hunt. I used to refuse to eat it when I was a kid. But when the hubs started hunting, I felt like I owed it to the deer to eat it so (in my mind) it didn't die for no reason.

**CiaraLuna** · June 11th, 2010, 09:34 AM

It is people like this irresponsible dad who give gun owners a bad name. What the hell was he thinking to leave it LOADED and in arms reach?

It is common sense to be overly cautious when children are present in a home with guns. Always make sure the gun is not loaded, and lock the gun and ammo up immediately. It only takes a second for a tragedy to happen. Kids are curious and are oblivious to how dangerous a gun really is. I am very glad that neither child was killed, and hope that they will both be okay.

**redsaid** · June 11th, 2010, 07:20 PM

I would much rather hunt and do all that that intails (cleanin' slaughterin', preservin' etc) than eat a cow that's been anywhere near Billy Joe and the like. I would love to refine the food product industry, but the land wouldn't sustain us all if we all started to hunt. Does that say something about our society?

**CiaraLuna** · June 11th, 2010, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by redsaid

I would much rather hunt and do all that that intails (cleanin' slaughterin', preservin' etc) than eat a cow that's been anywhere near Billy Joe and the like. I would love to refine the food product industry, but the land would sustain us all if we all started to hunt. Does that say something about our society?

Hell YES! We get our beef from my DHs family's farm. Nothing like what we saw on that video of the Asshole in the Hell-Hole.
We also have a huge veggie garden and can or freeze most of what we grow. We enjoy our green beans, peas, and homemade spaghetti sauce year round!

**sinfulplezurz702** · June 11th, 2010, 08:32 PM

sounds like dad is seriously lacking common sense or was just being negligent. bottom line..his carelessness almost killed his child and he should be punished for that. and if he was doing what he was supposed to do and not being in possession of a firearm then his child wouldn't have been shot.