1 yr old dies during nap, not suspicious in nature according to police.

[Jessiesgirl1108]

Will be interesting to see how this turns out...not too many 1 year old just die naturally in their sleep...
I put this in general topics cause no one has been charged, I guess if it turns out a crime has been committed it can be moved to reality bites.

Cattaraugus County Sheriff's are now investigating the death of an Allegany baby. The family of one and a half year old Joseph Cruz tells Eyewitness News the child was napping on a couch inside his Valley View Estates home in Allegany Tuesday afternoon, but when Cruz's mother went to put him into his own bed, she realized he had stopped breathing. The mother called 911 around 2:30 p.m. and when C.P.R. attempts were unsuccessful, the child was pronounced dead.

"We're all just lost with this, I can't even begin to tell you how much that baby was loved and how much that baby will be missed," said Sarah Smith, Cruz's great aunt.

Cattaraugus County Sheriff's say an autopsy was performed Wednesday morning at ECMC, but revealed the child's death was not suspicious in nature. Police continue their investigation pending toxicology results.

"The mother never left him out of her sight, this was something that just happened and it's going to be sad for a long time," said neighbor Barbara Nancini.

The family is still planning funeral arrangements for the child.

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/94967409.html

[cubby]

I guess the baby could have had a heart problem that was undiagnosed, but wouldn't an autopsy reveal that? Isn't 18 months too old for SIDS?

Yes this is very interesting.

[Saffron]

On average, I believe 18 mos is too old for SIDS but there are always exceptions. I don't think 18 mos is unheard of just very unusual.

[Lia]

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule in any circumstances.. SIDS definition is 'Sudden Infant Death Syndrome,' It merely means that a child has suddenly died for no apparent reason; and in fact Science has no real idea for why it should occur... It is thought, in most medical circles that it is caused by an infant failing, or 'forgetting to breathe.'

Some Physicians suspect foul play, and sometimes they're right, but there is no real evidence either way, unless extraneous symptoms are caught by a coroner. It's a difficult diagnosis, for a seemingly mysterious medical anomaly, in an otherwise apparently healthy child.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

It's a difficult diagnosis, for a seemingly mysterious medical anomaly, in an otherwise apparently healthy child.

I wonder what the SIDS designation cut-off age would be? Every once in a while you hear about someone dying and they don't know why. Even adults.

Just curious...

[Lia]

I wonder what the SIDS designation cut-off age would be? Every once in a while you hear about someone dying and they don't know why. Even adults.

Just curious...

That's a very good point DV. I have read of adults that simply 'die' yet were apparently healthy in every respect, and were quite young.

[VXIII]

I wonder what the SIDS designation cut-off age would be? Every once in a while you hear about someone dying and they don't know why. Even adults.

Just curious...

Age cut off for a baby to die from SIDs is 6 months, they dont die of it after that age...

[koochie]

Age cut off for a baby to die from SIDs is 6 months, they dont die of it after that age...

im not sure about that...in my morbid curiousity ive looked at some SIDS memorial sites and see lots of older kids that have died of SIDS. In fact I think i once read that they had a new name for toddlers and older kids who just die of no known causes..ill have to go search for that...

i feel for this family, how heartbreaking to lose your baby..8(. i cant imagine, my babies are my everything!....rest in peace sweet angel.

[Aena]

Every good parents worst nightmare, every scummy parents best catch all. SIDS is the number 1 fear of mine after miscarriage. I had a baby die at 24 weeks gestation, so I was always paranoid. Now I am paranoid for my future grandson, due Sept 22nd!

[Silvahalo]

I understand the cut off age is a child under one year of age. Found this that much says that.

Dr. Bradley Thach: By definition, SIDS is defined as the death of an infant under one year in age. In reality, SIDS probably causes deaths in older infants, although that's very rare. The frequency of SIDS drops off sharply after about 6 months.

So yes, it's entirely possible, but I'm suspicious nevertheless.

Rest in peace little Joseph Cruz.

[Nerdzilla]

There is something called SUDC-- Sudden Unexplained Death in Children. It's the early childhood equivilant of SIDS.
http://www.sudc.org/

"Sudden Unexplained Death In Childhood (SUDC) is the sudden and unexpected death of a child over the age of 12 months, which remains unexplained after a thorough case investigation is conducted." (Krous et al. 2005)

SIDS happens through the first year, and is most likely to happen during 2-4 months of age, and the risks drop off after 6 months, but it does not go away. My oldest son nearly died at just shy of 3 months of age, and he was officially diagnosed as having a SIDS-like episode, and spent several months on a monitor and being tested for various problems (none of which would have caused him to stop breathing-- he had a very common birth defect, a hole in his heart [as fetuses, we all have a hole in our hearts, it is supposed to close with a small flap when we take our first breath, it did not close up in my son until he was over 2 years old, and it's very common, most people don't know unless something like what happened to my son happens], which closed up on it's own around 2 years of age, and has an innocent heart murmur). In the end, we and our pediatrician believe he had some sort of reaction to the pertussis vaccine component he got a few days before... long story short, he had another reaction after the next shot, and hasn't had any problems since we stopped with vaccines.

[62julietandvoid]

are there simple tests for a hole in the heart? One of my uncles died at about a year old becasue of that, or so I was told. That was on my dad's side. On my mom's side we have tachicardia. I know I had a murmur, was told I still had it but was later told by another doc I had no more murmur. My boys are less toddler, more child, and all seems well but I worry. So many doctors seem so stupid...like my codition wasn't diagnosed till one doc had the brilliant idea(www.duh.com) to provide me with a portable ekg, at 27...I'd been complaining about the palpitations since I was like 11. I hate thinking about this shit.

[Silvahalo]

Was going to post this, thanks Nerdzilla!

There is something called SUDC-- Sudden Unexplained Death in Children. It's the early childhood equivilant of SIDS.
http://www.sudc.org/


SIDS happens through the first year, and is most likely to happen during 2-4 months of age, and the risks drop off after 6 months, but it does not go away. My oldest son nearly died at just shy of 3 months of age, and he was officially diagnosed as having a SIDS-like episode, and spent several months on a monitor and being tested for various problems (none of which would have caused him to stop breathing-- he had a very common birth defect, a hole in his heart [as fetuses, we all have a hole in our hearts, it is supposed to close with a small flap when we take our first breath, it did not close up in my son until he was over 2 years old, and it's very common, most people don't know unless something like what happened to my son happens], which closed up on it's own around 2 years of age, and has an innocent heart murmur). In the end, we and our pediatrician believe he had some sort of reaction to the pertussis vaccine component he got a few days before... long story short, he had another reaction after the next shot, and hasn't had any problems since we stopped with vaccines.

[Nerdzilla]

are there simple tests for a hole in the heart? One of my uncles died at about a year old becasue of that, or so I was told. That was on my dad's side. On my mom's side we have tachicardia. I know I had a murmur, was told I still had it but was later told by another doc I had no more murmur. My boys are less toddler, more child, and all seems well but I worry. So many doctors seem so stupid...like my codition wasn't diagnosed till one doc had the brilliant idea(www.duh.com) to provide me with a portable ekg, at 27...I'd been complaining about the palpitations since I was like 11. I hate thinking about this shit.

My son's hole was diagnosed during a simple echo. The murmur comes and goes. Sometimes the doctor will hear it, other times, she will not. My poor little guy had a rough first year. Our first pediatrician panicked because he had a fast heartrate-- and being first time parents, we had no idea that it's actually normal for newborns to have a heartrate that is faster than an adults. So baby went for some simple tests... EKG, and some Xrays. Stupid doctor didn't know simple anatomy and said his aorta arched the wrong way and sent us to a cardiologist... cardiologist said his aorta and heart were fine, heartrate was fine, etc. Did the echo just in case, and we all saw the hole. Not a big deal. We followed up for a few years, and then cardiologist did another echo, and the hole was gone. During this time, baby stopped breathing in the middle of the night, and underwent a slew of tests. It was a nightmare, and it's a wonder we had any other kids, LOL.

[62julietandvoid]

My son's hole was diagnosed during a simple echo. The murmur comes and goes. Sometimes the doctor will hear it, other times, she will not. My poor little guy had a rough first year. Our first pediatrician panicked because he had a fast heartrate-- and being first time parents, we had no idea that it's actually normal for newborns to have a heartrate that is faster than an adults. So baby went for some simple tests... EKG, and some Xrays. Stupid doctor didn't know simple anatomy and said his aorta arched the wrong way and sent us to a cardiologist... cardiologist said his aorta and heart were fine, heartrate was fine, etc. Did the echo just in case, and we all saw the hole. Not a big deal. We followed up for a few years, and then cardiologist did another echo, and the hole was gone. During this time, baby stopped breathing in the middle of the night, and underwent a slew of tests. It was a nightmare, and it's a wonder we had any other kids, LOL.

THANKS! So it closed on it's own? this shit is scarry. Echo as in echocardiogram? I wanna know this head on.

[Nerdzilla]

Yes, his hole closed on it's own. There are different types of holes, though, and the other types might not close on their own. His was actually a pretty common hole, called Atrial Septal Defect, and it was very small... our cardiologist said that he would guess upwards of 98% of newborns have the same hole, and that it almost always goes away within the first few years. This website has some good, simple info on what different holes present like, and whether they go away or not.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/...les_types.html
And yes, echo as in echocardiogram. It was just like an ultrasound, only of his heart. Very simple, and totally painless.