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    Baseball Coaches Bill Atlas & Tom Baia Say "Take One for the Team, Boys!"

    NY - State police have arrested two high school baseball coaches who were on a team bus when three varsity players sodomized two younger players after a game.

    William Atlas, the Wilson School District's junior varsity coach, and Thomas Baia, the varsity coach, were charged Tuesday with misdemeanor counts of child endangerment.

    Atlas, 35, is a physical education teacher at Thomas Mark Elementary School in Wilson, and Baia, 40, is a math teacher at Wilson Middle School.

    Three players, age 16 and 18, were charged Friday with aggravated sex abuse and child endangerment.

    http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8246547

    The incident is being referred to as a "hazing" incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard View Post
    Three players, age 16 and 18, were charged Friday with aggravated sex abuse and child endangerment.

    The incident is being referred to as a "hazing" incident.
    I wonder if its three players or two.

    I wonder why they aren't being charged with rape.

    Why would calling it "hazing" make it any less fucked up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMorningStar View Post
    Why would calling it "hazing" make it any less fucked up?
    Maybe to distinguish it from something that was primarily sexually motivated?
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    as far as i'm concerned, rape is rape no matter how you fucking dress it up. someone raping my college freshman son is no better than someone raping my 6 yr old (someday) daughter. how a supposed adult stands by & watches this shit escapes me.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard View Post
    NY - State police have arrested two high school baseball coaches who were on a team bus when three varsity players sodomized two younger players after a game.

    William Atlas, the Wilson School District's junior varsity coach, and Thomas Baia, the varsity coach, were charged Tuesday with misdemeanor counts of child endangerment.

    Atlas, 35, is a physical education teacher at Thomas Mark Elementary School in Wilson, and Baia, 40, is a math teacher at Wilson Middle School.

    Three players, age 16 and 18, were charged Friday with aggravated sex abuse and child endangerment.

    http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8246547

    The incident is being referred to as a "hazing" incident.
    Does anyone remember the case like this from awhile ago? Same kind of thing, boys were sodomized with sticks or something. The coaches stuck up for the offenders, actually the whole town did.

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    I was a school bus driver and supervisor for a few years in Texas. The coaches were probably sleeping and the driver had no control of the bus. It didn't say if they were drivers or not.

    Yes they should have been awake but they had already probably been up for 15-18 hours and had to get up in the morning to teach.

    I don't think it was full on butt sex though. They probably used some object. It isn't right but that may be why the charges are the way they are.

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    Whatever they want to call it, those the boys that are charged were in it for the gay butt sex. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unamused Cat View Post
    Whatever they want to call it, those the boys that are charged were in it for the gay butt sex. :p
    You may be right but I haven't seen a real good article about it yet. Maybe it was a epic wedgie that drew blood and the state says it is sodomy because the butt is bleeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w8ng4msrgt View Post
    I don't think it was full on butt sex though. They probably used some object.
    The felony charge accused them of forcing a foreign object into a private body opening.

    And there are three players being charged--2 are 16, one is 18.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/336730.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard View Post
    The felony charge accused them of forcing a foreign object into a private body opening.

    And there are three players being charged--2 are 16, one is 18.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/336730.html
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    FUCK! Now where the hell did I put that baseball bat?

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    This makes me think of a joke about a treatment for homosexuality that involves a baseball bat and...shit, what do you call it, that fencing that keeps cows from escaping?
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    Most States that have sodomy laws still on the books include oral sex under sodomy. Dictionary .com defines sodomy as anal or oral sex between member of the same gender. Wonder if they were pitching or catching?
    Last edited by DA Devil's Advocate; May 1st, 2008 at 11:58 PM.

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    [...]
    But more than a year later, the accusations about what happened on the bus pale in comparison to what was first believed, according to a review of court documents and interviews with key figures in the case.

    Nobody pulled down anyone’s pants.

    Nothing was shoved up the rectum of a team member.

    [...]

    There is no question that something did happen on the bus, but not anything as severe as what was originally charged.

    When the case first broke, in April 2008, three varsity players were charged with felony aggravated sexual abuse. The charges have since been reduced to misdemeanors.

    One of the three accused players pleaded guilty June 10 behind closed doors to what is believed to have been a Class A misdemeanor of endangering the welfare of a child. ...

    The other two players are scheduled to go to trial Saturday on charges of forcible touching and first-and second-degree hazing. The first two charges are misdemeanors, the third a violation.

    Both coaches, William M. Atlas and Thomas J. Baia, are due in Town Court on July 6 for a jury trial on charges of endangering the welfare of a child. They are accused of not stopping whatever was happening on the bus. Their attorneys assert that the coaches never saw anything, and testimony will emphasize what the coaches did, not what the players did.

    As the cases against those charged have fizzled in the last year, many in Wilson are left feeling that the image of the community and its residents has been unfairly tarnished.

    Despite the evolution of the cases, Terrence M. Connors, a Buffalo attorney representing one of the boys who says he was assaulted, insisted that his client has not changed his story one bit.

    “They reported what happened. They didn’t choose the charges. They should get some credit for stopping this bullying,” Connors told The Buffalo News.
    [...]

    Reports about what happened to each while they were back there have stirred the most controversy, and, the day after the incident became public, the State Police said the incident involved criminal sexual acts.

    Not so, according to attorneys for the three teen defendants. Evidence is lacking that the three — originally accused of inserting an object into the body parts of junior varsity players — did so.

    Shelby said that if there’s a trial, he will call an eyewitness who will testify that “the worst he saw was a charley horse.”

    He said he obtained that information from the closed-door suspension hearing the school conducted before barring the defendants from the campus for several months.

    Shelby said a lack of physical evidence of sexual assault forced the prosecution to drop the felony charges. He also said he thinks that’s why the State Police recently began an internal investigation into how the case has been handled.

    “If you’re going to bring those high-level felonies, you have to have proof,” Shelby said.
    [...]
    http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/710745.html

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    Sorry, but it sounds like a big waste of time and taxpayer money. Are they being so secretive about the details because they really have no case? With all we read and hear about, I can't believe anything that gets dropped to misdemeanors could be all that sensitive.
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    After 15 months and more than $200,000 of taxpayers’ money, the criminal case against two Wilson High School baseball coaches came to naught Monday.

    Instead of beginning to select a jury, Niagara County Assistant District Attorney Robert A. Zucco moved to dismiss the charges against suspended coaches William M. Atlas and Thomas J. Baia.

    Zucco offered no explanation for the decision. He and defense attorneys said they did not want to comment while Town Justice George R. Berger is still considering his verdict in the trial of two former players who were charged with roughing up some of their teammates on the team bus April 17, 2008, as it headed home from a game in Niagara Falls.
    [...]

    The State Police is conducting an internal investigation of how the case was handled.
    [...]

    Another source close to the case said the prosecution might have decided weeks ago to abandon the case against the coaches. The source said witnesses who expected to testify at the Baia-Atlas trial were wondering why they never received subpoenas.

    Asked why the prosecution gave up now instead of months ago, Viola said, “Let’s just say a case matures.”
    [...]

    At 9 a. m. Monday, Zucco rose in the Town Hall courtroom and told Berger, “It is the people’s intention not to go forward with this prosecution.”

    “Obviously, we have no objection,” Greenman said.

    Berger dismissed the case to the loud applause of about 20 family members and other supporters of the coaches.

    “Given that the other charge [against the players] is still under consideration by the judge, we’re not going to comment at all,” Zucco said.
    [...]

    Wilson School Superintendent Michael S. Wendt met with Baia and Atlas in his office after the court session. The Board of Education will meet next week, he said, and it is expected to vote on reinstating them to their jobs. Both have been suspended with pay since they were arrested.

    “I’m sure the board will make a decision based on the new information that was made public [Monday],” Wendt said. “We will work within the guidelines and procedures to regularly and fully correct the present situation.”

    School Board President Timothy F. Kropp said the coaches were suspended on advice of the school’s attorneys.

    It was done as a “precautionary measure,” Kropp said, and no hearings were held before the suspensions were imposed.
    [...]

    The $200,000-plus cost of the case to Wilson taxpayers does not include the coaches’ pay, Wendt said, but it does include salaries of about $35,000 each for two long-term substitutes to take their places, as well as legal fees for Greenman and Viola.

    Under the contract with the teachers union, the district had to absorb the cost of defending Atlas and Baia.

    More legal costs are coming, as Terrence M. Connors, the attorney hired by the parents of a junior varsity baseball player who said he was abused on the bus ride, reiterated Monday that he will be suing the district by the end of this month.
    [...]

    Zucco argued in a motion made available to The News that there was a history of hazing on the Wilson baseball team, dating back several seasons, in which older players would strike younger, smaller players.

    One of the players who said he was a past victim was one of those tried as a perpetrator last week, according to statements Zucco unsuccessfully sought to use as trial evidence.

    Connors said his argument remains the same: “Those who were charged with the responsibility of protecting those kids failed in their responsibility, and that’s from the top down.”
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