Kareem Gilbert agreed to testify against his father Rueben Jordan

[mystery]

Police in Cincinnati arrested a stunned courtroom spectator on a murder charge after his son made a deal with prosecutors.

Authorities say Kareem Gilbert agreed to testify against his father, Rueben Jordan, to get a lighter prison sentence. As the plea deal was announced Tuesday in Hamilton County court, detectives grabbed Jordan.

Gilbert was charged with killing Bryan Austin in 2008 after an argument, when Gilbert was 16. A witness was killed two weeks later and Gilbert also was charged in that case and faced life in prison on both counts.

But, in exchange for an 18-year sentence for the first killing, Gilbert told authorities his father killed the witness.

Thirty-seven-year-old Jordan was being held without bond Wednesday. No attorney was listed for him.

http://www.fox8.com/news/sns-ap-oh--...,6076208.story

[Abroad]

I know they say there is no honour among thieves. There clearly isn't a lot of filial feeling among murderers, either.......

[Cholita]

pack a pukes.

[AngelFire]

There is no honor amongst thugs

[mystery]

Ruben "Red" Jordan, the man arrested Tuesday for murder as he sat in a Hamilton County courtroom after his son agreed to testify against him, was indicted Monday.
Jordan, the father of confessed killer Kareem "Lil' Red" Gilbert, was indicted for aggravated murder and having a weapon after previous drug-related crimes. Those charges carry a maximum prison sentence of 23 years to life.

Jordan, 37, of Corryville was arrested last week as he sat in the audience of the courtroom of Common Pleas Court Judge Robert Winkler as Jordan's son pleaded guilty to murder and other charges stemming from October 2006 Over-the-Rhine incidents that left two men dead - a man Gilbert killed and the eyewitness to that killing who Jordan is accused of killing.

Gilbert admitted last week he shot and killed Bryan Austin on Oct. 16, 2006, when Gilbert was just 16. He's now 18. The pair argued over a drug deal and Austin hit Gilbert with a meatball sandwich. Gilbert then shot Austin to death as Victor Davis sat next to Austin.

Two weeks later, Davis - who so feared for his life he told his family what clothes he wanted to wear at his funeral - was shot and killed. Initially, police charged Gilbert with both killings, but DNA showed otherwise, Assistant Prosecutor Megan Shanahan said Monday.

"That's what kicked this whole thing off," Shanahan said. "We got DNA off the street and it didn't match Kareem."

Jordan, whose first name is spelled several different ways in court documents, was arrested in April for stealing televisions from a Laundromat and had his DNA taken. It matched DNA found at the Davis killing, Shanahan said.

Jordan pushed his son not to take any plea bargains, Shanahan said, because he suspected it would lead to his arrest.

"What a peek into Kareem Gilbert's mind. The fact that he was fathered by a man who was going to let him eat this," Shanahan said.

Gilbert, now 18, initially was charged with two counts of murder that carried possible double life sentences. But in a plea deal last week, he pleaded guilty to Austin's killing and was sentenced to 18 years in prison.

In exchange, Gilbert agreed to testify against his father - who was in the audience and knew nothing of the plea deal specifics - for killing Davis. Police were also in the audience and immediately arrested Jordan and charged him with murder.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...ed-with-murder

[this is going badly]

Maybe they can be assigned to be life long cell mates as part of their sentences?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Jury convicts Ruben Jordan. His son, Kareem Gilbert, did't own up to his end of the plea bargain but the jury saw through it.

Gilbert cut a deal with prosecutors in May where he pleaded guilty to killing Austin. In return, he would serve 18 years in prison and testify against his father in the death of Davis.

Gilbert crossed prosecutors up, though, last week, when he testified he didn't know who killed Davis - even though Gilbert swore to police he saw his father shoot Davis three times, including once in the head, to prevent him from testifying against Gilbert in Austin's killing.

Now, Gilbert is in prison and his father is going there, too.

Things could get a lot worse for Gilbert because of his recanted testimony.

Assistant Prosecutor Seth Tieger said after the verdict that prosecutors will revisit Gilbert's plea deal from last year. The options are:

• Leave the plea deal as is and let Gilbert serve his 18-year sentence.

• Erase the plea deal - because Gilbert didn't live up to its terms by testifying he didn't know who killed Davis - and seek to convict him of Austin's homicide and send him to prison for life.

• Erase the plea deal and charge Gilbert with the homicide of both Austin and Davis. He could be charged with Davis' death, Tieger said, because Gilbert told police he went with his father when Jordan killed Davis.

"There's also a potential perjury charge," Tieger added of Gilbert's changing testimony.

Jordan faces a minimum prison sentence of 19 years to life when sentenced Feb. 15.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...lier-convicted

Kareem Gilbert, who avoided a potential sentence of life in prison last year by agreeing to testify against his dad in a murder case, shocked prosecutors Wednesday when he recanted and said Dad killed no one.

"That was all a lie," Gilbert, 18, testified Thursday in the murder case of his dad, Ruben Jordan.

"I just made all that stuff up. ... I was facing double life."
[...]

It started Oct. 16, 2008, when Gilbert - then age 16 - got into an argument with Brian Austin. After Austin hit Gilbert with a meatball sandwich, Gilbert shot Austin to death. A witness to the killing, Victor Davis, ran off but was so convinced he would be killed to silence him that he told his family what clothes to put on him for his funeral.

Two weeks later, on Oct. 31, 2008, Davis was shot and killed in Over-the-Rhine.

Originally, police charged Gilbert with both homicides, but at a May 18, 2010, plea deal, Gilbert pleaded guilty to killing Austin and was given an 18-year prison sentence.
[...]

To try to counteract Gilbert's change of story, Shanahan played for the jury a May 17, 2010, statement Gilbert gave police a day before he accepted the plea deal.

In the recording, Gilbert gave intricate, detailed information about how he and his dad cruised Over-the-Rhine looking for Davis in the early morning of Halloween 2008. He watched, his recorded statement noted, as Jordan got out of the car to talk to Davis but instead shot him to death.

"Next thing I know, he (Jordan) pulled out a .38 and just started shooting," Gilbert said in the recorded statement.

"He left off like three or four" shots, Gilbert added.

Gilbert was so scared that his father might hurt him, he stayed in the car and waited for his dad, he said on tape.

"I was wondering if he was going to end up popping me or something," Gilbert told police.

Gilbert explained Wednesday, though, that he lied to police about his dad's involvement because he was upset his dad never was active in his life.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...ole-in-killing

[Valasca]

Ah, Cincy. My hometown.
I have never been to Corryville. People don't go there on purpose.