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    2 yr. old Lisa Smalls fell out of a moving car & was not belted in her car seat

    A 2-year-old girl died from her injuries after falling out of a moving car in West Philadelphia Friday.

    Investigators say the tragic incident happened about 10:15 a.m. on the 4000 block of Lancaster Avenue when the toddler, Lisa Michelle Smalls, opened the rear door of the car while her mother was driving.

    The little girl was rushed to Children’s Hospital in critical condition. But on Saturday, family members of Lisa Michelle made the decision to take her off life support and donate her organs.

    “I’m gonna miss her a whole lot. Beautiful little girl,” the girl’s cousin Jamie Wong said.

    The child’s mother tells NBCPhiladelphia six people were inside of the car, a Ford Escort, at the time of the accident—two adults and four children. She said when she turned from Fairmount Street onto Lancaster Avenue Lisa flew out the car. The girl’s mother said the doors on the Escort were always weak.

    “I saw my cousin fly out the car. I don't want this to happen to another little girl. We lost an angel,” Wong said.

    Philadelphia police are investigating the car doors for defects but investigators also say Lisa wasn't belted in her car seat.

    The family plans to hold a vigil in West Philadelphia on Sunday at 6:30 p.m.

    The incident is still under investigation. Charges are pending.
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    WTH wasn't she buckled in, RIP! She was so cute.

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    The doors were "weak"? IF mom had buckled the baby in this wouldn't have happened... UNLESS the baby learned how to unbuckle herself (which my 2 yr old tries to do all the time)...
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    "The girl’s mother said the doors on the Escort were always weak..." Possibly, but I'd say first and foremost, her safety measures were weak. Yes a two yo can figure out to unbuckle part of a seatbelt harness as my 2yo know's how to do that with the top restraints. However, the bottom restraint is another matter, especially with a 5 pt. harness. One can also set the doors in the back set to child safety lock, so they cannot be opened by the inside. Not all cars have this device but many do.

    “I saw my cousin fly out the car. I don't want this to happen to another little girl. We lost an angel,” ....

    A car seat if not used correctly is useless. One thing I harp on hubs all the time to double check restraints as they are secure and fit snug and only 2 fingers width allowed for wiggle room. Anyhow, baby Lisa may have very well lived thru this incident had the mother bothered to harness her properly. Tragic, yes, utterly so. Baby girl lost her life and it was so preventable. Now she's forever an angel in the heavens.

    I seriously hope every single family member present during this incident, will never forget and never fail to harness a child properly again. Such a harsh way to learn an important lesson. I will be very surprised if mother is not charged for failing to harness baby girl properly, even if the doors turn out to be faulty.

    Baby Lisa was precious....so sorry sweet one you had far more life ahead of you. Kisses...



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    Ford escorts usually have bucket seats. There was most likely four children in the back, either not buckled or two of them sharing a buckle. At two, she should have been in a carseat but, with four kids in the back, there wasn't room for one. I hope they at least charge the mom with neglect.

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    Silva, Nadezdha can get out of certain car seats. Even the 5 point harness ones. Only 1 so far, and not the 2 we have currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvahalo68 View Post
    "The girl’s mother said the doors on the Escort were always weak..." Possibly, but I'd say first and foremost, her safety measures were weak. Yes a two yo can figure out to unbuckle part of a seatbelt harness as my 2yo know's how to do that with the top restraints. However, the bottom restraint is another matter, especially with a 5 pt. harness. One can also set the doors in the back set to child safety lock, so they cannot be opened by the inside. Not all cars have this device but many do.

    “I saw my cousin fly out the car. I don't want this to happen to another little girl. We lost an angel,” ....

    A car seat if not used correctly is useless. One thing I harp on hubs all the time to double check restraints as they are secure and fit snug and only 2 fingers width allowed for wiggle room. Anyhow, baby Lisa may have very well lived thru this incident had the mother bothered to harness her properly. Tragic, yes, utterly so. Baby girl lost her life and it was so preventable. Now she's forever an angel in the heavens.

    I seriously hope every single family member present during this incident, will never forget and never fail to harness a child properly again. Such a harsh way to learn an important lesson. I will be very surprised if mother is not charged for failing to harness baby girl properly, even if the doors turn out to be faulty.

    Baby Lisa was precious....so sorry sweet one you had far more life ahead of you. Kisses...



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    what a fucking way to let her go, kisses, ha fucking ha. Im sure, Im hoping you meant more than just a kisses to let her go, like she was shit and didnt deserve your love, just let her go with a kisses.

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    Silva makes the pictures, that was really rude. These children aren't her children yet she cares enough about them to do this for them.
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    XVIII, your remarks are uncalled for; they are rude and ugly. Silva is an advocate for the victims of child abuse and child homicide. She composes angel pictures for every victim she can, and these bring a measure of grace to us, and give us some comfort. Her pictures give my heart ease; this is how I want to remember these babies...at peace in a place of love and joy.
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    I am really hoping XVIII didn't realize Silva made the pictures and thought maybe this was the parents eulogy to their deceased child. Still totally uncalled for, which is why I groaned. Silva is one of the most sincerest posters I have met on here and even though I am new, I really felt that I had to say something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aena View Post
    I am really hoping XVIII didn't realize Silva made the pictures and thought maybe this was the parents eulogy to their deceased child. Still totally uncalled for, which is why I groaned. Silva is one of the most sincerest posters I have met on here and even though I am new, I really felt that I had to say something.
    I second that. I am assuming it was an mistake on XVIII's part, and did not realize Silva did it. I have been here for over two years and Silva has been one of the most valuable and consistent contributors to Reality Bites. Keep up the good work Silva.

    That said, and nuff said, I cant wait for this to be moved to Reality Bites because the crime was failure to buckle a child in.
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    I think XVIII just made a mistake. truly. He probably thought that was something from the parents, and didn't realize it was from Silva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    what a fucking way to let her go, kisses, ha fucking ha. Im sure, Im hoping you meant more than just a kisses to let her go, like she was shit and didnt deserve your love, just let her go with a kisses.
    I am SO confused!? what the fuck does this even mean? I'm not the mother of the child posting but even IF i were, this is unbelievable? give it up what's your problem?

    The child, Lisa was priceless, If it's NOT clear, I was making a case here to show the neglect that lead to this childs death. I sent her off with a kiss, yeah, damn straight, I'd give her, her life back IF i could! doesn't cost a dime to say a kind word.

    SO please explain yourself! and while I'm at it, did you send her off with anything? anything at all? a prayer, a nice thought....NO, you shit on this thread and for what?? I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but this makes zero sense, so please, EXPLAIN YOURSELF!
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    Somehow I have NO thanks, thank you all for your very kind words.

    I don't know if this person made a mistake, as it appears clear this post is from ME not the mother of the child. I post a case against HER makes no sense he/she think I was her.

    Really asinine!


    EDIT: ARE YOU A FUCKN TROLL? GET THE FUCK OUT!
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    PHOTO'S HERE.

    Authorities were unsure whether the baby was properly restrained or how many other people were in the car at the time. The accident remains under investigation, and charges against Dunson have not been ruled out, police said.

    [...]
    "I'm sorry you're dead," she read. "I hope you feel better . . . I love you. This is your family, this is your older sister."

    All around her, adults wiped away tears as each of them said their "goodbyes" and "I love yous" to their 1-year-old "angel," Lisa Michelle Smalls, whose life was tragically cut short Friday when police say she fell out of her mother's moving car.

    Mia Sowers, the child's great aunt, said that the family will find a way to cope.

    "There's a reason for everything," she said. "Everything is in God's will and we believe in God. She's in a better place. We're going to bury her and, in time, we will heal."
    VIDEO here.
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    There is a reason Michelle died, but it wasn't God's will, IMO.
    A hard lessoned learned for everyone, especially baby girl. Rest in peace little one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    what a fucking way to let her go, kisses, ha fucking ha. Im sure, Im hoping you meant more than just a kisses to let her go, like she was shit and didnt deserve your love, just let her go with a kisses.

    While I can not say I even understand what you are trying to say the implication is very clear. I do not see a mistake as the others do in your post, what I see first class fuckery. Gee, I wonder if you will still be laughing when you realize you are not half as cool as you thought you were.....I know I am. Picking on Silvee, of all people who is truly loving and dedicated and cares deeply for all these lost children is absolutely mind-blowing to me. I happen to know that her focus is on these children and not so much on what some random punk has to say. You just get on with your bad self if it helps ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    what a fucking way to let her go, kisses, ha fucking ha. Im sure, Im hoping you meant more than just a kisses to let her go, like she was shit and didnt deserve your love, just let her go with a kisses.
    You are a Asshole!How dare you insult silva!She makes the photo's to honor children that were never loved or cared for in life...She shows more attention in the time she spends making the photo's of the children,than the parents ever have and sometimes when there is a child that never was loved enough to have a name she names the unknown so we dont have to mourn "Babydoe" or "Babyfemale/male"....what is your problem?

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    Thank you Silva for all that you do for the unwanted and under appreciated children. Thank you also for the beautiful names you give all the unnamed angels.

    Kisses to you, baby Michelle, frolic with the angels.

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    Honestly, had I know this was here I would have said something earlier, I been around here a while but dont really know anyone here, there was no insult or harm meant to whoever made that pic, this story caused me a lot of sadness and anger when I read it, didnt mean it to sound so bad but when I re read it, I can see why others would think that... because we are writing here and you cant pick up on tone of voice or emotion things can and will not come out the way you intended, so sorry if I hurt anyone here or made them feel like I was disrespecful of something they made. I apologize...

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    I saw that you made a mistake VXIII. I thought it was kind of obvious. I think the reason the mistake was made is because Silva quoted parts of a newspaper article in which the mom of the child speaks without putting it in quotes, then writing her own (Silvas) thought directly afterword. To someone that is newer it honestly looked like maybe the mom of the child had written the tribute, with the "kisses" in it. And that would have pissed anyone off.
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    I know Silva, and one thing I know about her is her huge heart. She adores kids, and is a voice for those that have had their voices taken from them. I am sure you are sincere in your apology and I am sure Silva will also see that too.

    If you stick around, you will soon realize what everyone is telling you about Silva. Sometimes these stories are so tragic that all sorts of emotions get stirred with us posters. I am one that has jumped the gun and said something I clearly shouldn't only because I have let my emotions speak for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    Honestly, had I know this was here I would have said something earlier, I been around here a while but dont really know anyone here, there was no insult or harm meant to whoever made that pic, this story caused me a lot of sadness and anger when I read it, didnt mean it to sound so bad but when I re read it, I can see why others would think that... because we are writing here and you cant pick up on tone of voice or emotion things can and will not come out the way you intended, so sorry if I hurt anyone here or made them feel like I was disrespecful of something they made. I apologize...
    VXIII. I haven't been on here as much lately so didn't see this until now.

    I was almost positive you didn't mean it as it came out. As I reread my post I have to say I don't know how you misconstrued me for the mother as I didn't use her words. Anyhow, no harm done, all is good.

    I'm here for ONE reason. The children. But my voice is really no different than the many here who's hearts bleed for the children lost to violence or stupidity. For those who stood up for me, my deepest, heartfelt THANK YOU, I am fortunate to have made a few friends who really do know me.

    Apology accepted, and as I do not hold on to grudges, friends, I hope we will be. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXIII View Post
    Honestly, had I know this was here I would have said something earlier, I been around here a while but dont really know anyone here, there was no insult or harm meant to whoever made that pic, this story caused me a lot of sadness and anger when I read it, didnt mean it to sound so bad but when I re read it, I can see why others would think that... because we are writing here and you cant pick up on tone of voice or emotion things can and will not come out the way you intended, so sorry if I hurt anyone here or made them feel like I was disrespecful of something they made. I apologize...
    It's all good. Thanks for your post. You have yet to piss people off and blast embarrassing social faux pas like I do.
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    [QUOTE=silvahalo68;437997]VXIII. I haven't been on here as much lately so didn't see this until now.

    I was almost positive you didn't mean it as it came out. As I reread my post I have to say I don't know how you misconstrued me for the mother as I didn't use her words. Anyhow, no harm done, all is good.

    I'm here for ONE reason. The children. But my voice is really no different than the many here who's hearts bleed for the children lost to violence or stupidity. For those who stood up for me, my deepest, heartfelt THANK YOU, I am fortunate to have made a few friends who really do know me.

    Apology accepted, and as I do not hold on to grudges, friends, I hope we will be. :)[/QUOTe

    Thank you for your graciousness, I have read some of your posts and yes you do care about the kids a lot, get disgusted and angry over it... none of that little tirade was directed towards anyone here, i had just read some of the news stories related to this beautiful little girl that had some of the moms statements in it, and it was like she was so cold and non caring and insincere about it, also I had been drinking quite a bit of beer that day and just got confused and went off on a rant, its not I thought you were the mom but I was ranting at the mom, next time ill do that in a new post... I would never be such an asshole deliberately to someone as kind and caring as you, once again I apologize and thank you for accepting...

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