Who killed 5 year old Julian Soliz?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Seven weeks have passed since 5-year-old Julian Salazar Soliz was found dead, his body abandoned in front of a North Austin home.

Little is known about the investigation into who killed the energetic little boy who liked to sing to his teachers. No suspects have been named. It's unclear how Julian died, and sheriff's investigators have told the county medical examiner's office not to publicly release the preliminary autopsy findings. Any developments in the case are being tightly held.

It has proved to be one of the most demanding homicide investigations for the Travis County sheriff's office this year, spokesman Roger Wade said.

"There are cases where there are smoking guns and confessions, but those are more rare," he said. "More often, you have to work a case the old-fashioned way."
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For now, Wade said, key details in the case, including any autopsy findings, are not being released to avoid putting out information that "aids and assists the perpetrator of the case." However, Wade emphasized that the investigation has become a priority: a detective has been assigned full time, and additional resources, including deputies who were on light duty, have been drawn in to assist.

They have been combing through tips, witness interviews and surveillance videos close to the Wells Branch neighborhood where Julian was found, Wade said.

One detail about the investigation remains clear: Julian was not killed by a stranger.

"This is not a case where a stranger abducted Julian and did something to him," Wade said, without elaborating on the evidence.

The case has triggered scrutiny for those closest to Julian, including the caretaker who reported him missing, the boy's father and his mother.

Since Julian's death, the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services has initiated investigations into all three individuals: the caretaker, Nichole Turner, 22 ; the boy's father, Leonard "Ivan" Soliz, 21 ; and his mother, Jessica Salazar, 23. In April, the agency began legal efforts to terminate the parental rights of Turner and Soliz for two other children, placing an infant boy and a 5-year-old girl who had lived with Julian in state custody. Another hearing on the case is scheduled Monday .

The state has allowed Salazar to retain custody of her two children from other relationships. This month , the agency initiated a "family-based safety services" case in a Travis County court, requiring Salazar to attend parenting classes and submit to supervised home visits.

Salazar has said she had not seen Julian for a month before he was found dead. In an interview last week , Salazar said Julian's father had wanted to spend more time with the boy early last year and began taking him on extended visits that grew to full-time custody by the end of the year.

Salazar said she didn't get him back because she feared an altercation with Soliz; she said she often argued with him over his parenting style. Child Protective Services officials talked to both parents in 2005 after an altercation between the two left a scratch on Julian, who was an infant, according to the Department of Family and Protective Services.

Salazar said she never surrendered legal control of Julian but wasn't able to find legal aid assistance to get him back.
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Wade said the lack of public updates doesn't mean the case has gone cold.

"We are still working Julian's case as if it happened yesterday," he said. "There is a lot of information in this case that if we put it out, it would interfere with the integrity of the case."

Salazar is holding on to hope that her son's killer will soon be found.

"I am trying to be strong for my other kids," she said. But Julian "is missed and loved to this day. I pray to God they find whoever did this, so he can rest in peace, I can rest in peace and his family can rest in peace."

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...ns-719500.html

[Silvahalo]

Shitfire! I was about to post. Well, thanks DV, it's all good. Got to this late as I was way busy this memorial weekend. Last week I put a call to the lead investigator, tip from a friend who works in news, but got no reply, guess he's very busy.

On that note it makes me soooo sad as I see my boys enjoying life and little Julian gets nothing more. I want so badly to see the fucker who did this to him caught, exposed and severe punishment brought down on them. The flames of hell are waiting.....

[Silvahalo]

It's not clear whether Soliz and Turner lived together. Attorney Leonard Martinez described Soliz and Turner as having an "on-again, off-again" relationship over the years.

They had their troubles together: In 2006, an arrest affidavit issued by the Williamson County sheriff's office accused Soliz of grabbing Turner and choking her. Soliz pleaded no contest to an assault charge and was sentenced to 10 days in jail.

That wasn't the end of Soliz's criminal troubles, however. Last week, State District Judge Bob Perkins sentenced Soliz to one year in jail for violating his probation in an unrelated 2009 assault case.

Despite Soliz's criminal history, he could never hurt his son, Martinez said.

"There is no reason to even suspect that he would have had even motive or opportunity or any reason whatsoever to do something to that child," Martinez said. "There is no indication that he has ever been abusive or harmful when he's had contact with that child."

Turner has not commented on the case. Calls and visits seeking comment at her parent's home in far eastern Travis County, where neighbors say she had stayed in the days after Julian's death, were declined.

Neighbors describe Turner as a sweet girl who became a mother at a young age. Neighbors expressed shock that Turner was connected to Julian's case.

"She's a good girl, real sweet," said Demetrius Pack, 30, a stay-at-home dad who lives two doors down from Turner's place.

Key players in this case. He's prone to violence. She's a sweet girl. It will be very interesting to see what unfolds as truth.


seven-weeks-later-5-year-olds-death-remains-

[Jerri Blank]

I for one am very interested in finding out how Julian, age 5 left a third floor apartment at 5:30 am by himself only to be found dead half a mile away. I'd like to know why if he was known to be missing why it took an hour and a half to contact the police. I don't know just what happened to this little guy but surely more information will be released soon.

You say you are are smelling shit here Silvee? So am I. A great big stinking pile of it.

I bet though if it was her man who disappeared from the apartment at 5:30am and she had no idea where he was that she would have been freaking flipping out with panic.

Instead she causally waits around a hour and half.
What was her explanation? did she say she thought maybe he had some errands to run in the morning and he's probably be back briefly?
How in the hell did she explain that crap and seem sincere?

This is one guilty person if there ever was one.

[ineedanap]

I can't believe this case is still unsolved. WTF???

[akika666]

I can't believe this case is still unsolved. WTF???

just as in the Haleigh case, all the twists and turns of the relationships between the adults and children, the other criminal activities of the adults and the obfuscation they've engaged in (taking their time reporting the missing child, etc) has been very effective in hindering this investigation. so frustrating to watch helplessly

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Nichole Turner

A Travis County judge on Monday refused to allow a woman who cared for a boy found dead this year to have visitation with her 5-year-old daughter, calling the statements the girl made during private interviews "horrific."

State District Judge Darlene Byrne alluded to the comments as she unleashed harsh words onto the child's mother, Nichole Turner, during a court hearing Monday.

Byrne ordered that the girl and her 9-month-old brother remain in state custody.

If the statements the girl made are true, "then you scare me greatly," Byrne told Turner in open court.

"You may be getting arrested; you may be convicted; maybe it won't happen," Byrne said. "This is one of the worst cases I have ever seen. And I have seen hundreds."

Byrne and other officials tied to the case declined to elaborate on the comments, raising new questions about what might have happened in the Estates at Shoreline apartments where Turner, 22, cared for her two children and Julian Salazar Soliz, the 5-year-old boy found dead in April.
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Turner, however, won an additional hour of supervised visitation with her infant son, allowing her to see him for two hours a week.
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Monday's hearing shed some light in a case that has been tightly held, as developments in the investigation and autopsy findings are being withheld from the public. Officials have said they don't want to release information that could aide the perpetrator, who they say was not a stranger to Julian.

Julian also was reported to have missed the two days of school before he was found dead, according to officials at Wells Branch Elementary.
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Child advocacy specialists for CASA of Travis County, the court-appointed special advocates for children, said the older child, who is Turner's from a previous relationship, was struggling recently. Turner's attorney, Kyle Collins, said the girl has been "stoic" for three days and was not talking to anyone.

Collins argued that the children should be returned to their mother.

"I am not returning these children to your client until we have your client ... (testify on the witness stand and) swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth," Byrne told Collins. "You are testing my patience."

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...ts-733205.html

[Silvahalo]

Here i am in the a.m so I could post this, lol, you are fast DV.

Based on the statements of Turner’s daughter, Judge Byrne said out of the hundreds of cases she's seen in her career, this is by far the worst. The young girl allegedly observed horrific events and made traumatic statements.

The judge decided Turner's two children will remain in CPS custody.

She is allowed two hours a week supervised visitation with her 9-month-old son but not with her daughter.

I have been waiting to hear what her 5 yo had to say on that evening. NOW I hope to see an arrest soon. I think we all know Turner being the last person with Julian IS the most likely suspect. I feel so bad for her daughter I hope she is getting some help as it does appear she is traumatized.

Child advocacy specialists for CASA of Travis County, the court-appointed special advocates for children, said the older child, who is Turner's from a previous relationship, was struggling recently. Turner's attorney, Kyle Collins, said the girl has been "stoic" for three days and was not talking to anyone.

So she can't see her daughter but its OK to see her son? makes lot of sense. I'm sure the reasoning has more to do with what the daughter witnessed, still sounds ass-backwards to me.

Turner sure isn't appearing "good" or "sweet" now is she.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

WOO HOO!

Nichole Turner, 22, was booked into the Travis County Jail this afternoon on a charge of injury to a child. Her bail was set at $100,000.

Julian Salazar Soliz, 5, had been reported missing April 10 from the Estates at Shoreline apartment where he had been staying. He was found dead nearly two miles away.
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Julian’s mother, Jessica Salazar, posted an elated, but angry message on her MySpace page about Turner on Friday afternoon moments after an arrest warrant was issued.

“Oh my God, finally justice for my baby boy,” Salazar said. “That (expletive) is going to get what she deserves.”

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...=breaking_news

[Dakota Valkyrie]

http://www.myspace.com/jessbaby86

[Silvahalo]

DV, I checked on this about a week ago, but nothing and my google alert NEVER worked.

THANK YOU FOR KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR THIS!!! very, very good news, made my day!


NICHOLE TURNER

[Dakota Valkyrie]

She looka like a man.

[Silvahalo]

She looka like a man.

yeah, also looks like she's thinking, I'M FUCKED......

[Dakota Valkyrie]

According to a court affidavit, Turner admitted to beating Julian with a belt and that the belt could have struck Julian on the head and could have struck him in the stomach. The medical examiner observed 59 bruises on Julian's body, bleeding on his brain and determined the child died from blunt force trauma to the abdomen.

"She gave us a door to go through when she said she's the only one who had access to Julian during the time when these injuries took place," said Roger Wade, a spokesman for the Travis County Sheriff's Office.

In the affidavit, Turner told detectives she realized that she had lost control.
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Investigators say at this time they did not have to charge Turner with murder so they went with injury to a child. Like murder, injury to a child is a first degree felony and can carry the same penalty as murder if those injuries lead to death.

http://www.kvue.com/news/The-woman-w...-97712854.html

Ten minutes after Turner learned police were pressing charges, she turned herself in.

Authorities said they believe the injuries she inflicted led to Julian's death.

"The last thing we want to do is present something that we can't prove,” Roger Wade with the Travis County Sheriff’s Office said. “And we were trying to get murder charges out of this, but we just couldn't prove murder charges. We can prove injury to a child and that's why we filed it."

Police said they intend to charge Turner with murder if they gather a strong enough case.

http://www.news8austin.com/content/h...f-julian-soliz

[Silvahalo]

According to a court affidavit, Turner admitted to beating Julian with a belt and that the belt could have struck Julian on the head and could have struck him in the stomach. The medical examiner observed 59 bruises on Julian's body, bleeding on his brain and determined the child died from blunt force trauma to the abdomen.

"It shocks me really that that was going on upstairs," said Jermaine Igioze, who lives in the same North Travis County apartment complex where Julian Soliz lived.
In fact, Igioze lives in the apartment directly below Turner's. He said he and his two roommates will never forget the sound they heard that night.

"I've lived in an apartment before and I understand noise from people living upstairs, but it was so unusual we all had to talk about it. It was very, very loud. It was like furniture just falling and bang, enough for everyone to just stop," said Igioze.

Didn't family say after prelim autopsy there were no visible signs of trauma? could be remembering that wrong.
"The autopsy on the young boy is not complete, but family members said the boy had internal bleeding with no visible signs of trauma to his body.".....Perhaps to get a reaction by the family and make some judgments on that. AND I do question why Julian was ever left at her home for so long, he was not her responsibility, I bet that pissed her off. That decision was a big, big fail on the parents part, IMO. Julian was just starting school had already relocated once, he was having a hard time then gets stuck living with this heartless bitch. Poor Julian probably felt abandoned.

Anyhow, I do hope the case is built stronger to prove murder. I mean beating him with a belt, 59 bruises and bleeding in the brain, she wasn't hitting him to discipline him, seems she was bent on killing him.

So sorry little Julian!!

VIDEO/ARTICLE HERE.

[Silvahalo]

Here are some of the points made in the arrest affidavit:

*Nichole also described “whooping” Julian on Tuesday (April 6) for lying. She later said this occurred on Wednesday (April 7). She described how she hit Julian with a black leather belt because he had told a lie. Nichole described that as she was doing this, she had a hold of Julian’s hand and he was moving around while she was hitting him with the belt. Nichole said she hit Julian on his buttocks with the belt 3 or 4 times. Then when Julian’s pants were down, she hit him with her hand on his buttocks.

*Nichole was also interviewed by Child Protective Services Investigator Michael Bradburn and she advised Bradburn on Tuesday, April 6 she whipped Julian with a belt 3 or 4 times. He was moving around so she had to switch to her hand and pull his pants down and spanked him 3 or 4 times on the buttocks. As Nichole was doing this, Julian fell to the ground and Nichole had a hold of him by his wrist. Julian continued moving about and she continued holding him by the wrist as she was swinging the belt. Nichole admitted that the belt could have struck Julian on the head and could have struck him in the stomach. Nichole said she realized that she had lost control.

Soliz's autopsy concluded he had died from blunt force trauma to his abdomen. This injury could not be attributed to a car accident or a fall, police said. The medical examiner counted at least 59 bruises on the boy's body. Scarring to a wound on his head indicated the injuries happened days prior to his death.

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Julian's biological mother, Jessica Salazar said she was in tears most of the day after a Travis County detective told her Turner was going to be arrested. Salazar said she and her family were not surprised by the suspect, but could not bear to hear the detailed account of abuse.

"The pain is always going to be there," said Salazar as tears rolled down her cheek. She put her head in her hands and said, "It's always going to be in the back of my mind. I will never forgive her. She took something away from me I can never get back."

The charge faced by Turner is a first-degree felony and carries a sentence of five years to life in prisons.

After the initial shock wears off, I hope mother visits her in prison and strangles the heartless, bitch.
They'll let it slide given the circumstances.

Rest in peace little Julian.



VIDEO/ARTICLE HERE...JULIAN IN PICTURES NOT RELEASED BEFORE.

[Hellsbells]

The Cunt used more than a belt

[Silvahalo]

She's out, she confessed, and she's out. Doesn't seem right. I better not run into this bitch.

The woman accused of beating five-year old Julian Soliz before his death has bailed out of jail.

Nichole Shante Turner, 22, was charged with injury to a child Friday.

[...]
Turner told police she used a belt to discipline Soliz a few days before his death and that she could have struck him in the head and stomach.

Autopsy results indicate Julian died from a recent blow to the abdomen.

Turner was being held in the Travis County jail on $100,000 bond.

She is no longer in custody.

VIDEO/ARTICLE

[donegaveup]

She's WHAT??? OMG I am sick.

[Silvahalo]

AUSTIN (KXAN) - A woman linked to the beating death of a 5-year-old North Austin boy has a court appearance this week.

Julian Soliz was an energetic and outgoing child. His grandfahter, Ivan Goree, said the boy was loved by many and his life should not have come to such a violent end. "Everybody spoiled that boy," said Goree. "But I didn't mind because that was my grandson."

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Goree raised Julian's father Leonard from the time he was 5 years old and said Julian and Leonard lived with him off and on throughout the child's short life. The two moved out for the final time just a few months ago.
"He decided that he wanted to move- that he wanted to try his wings - I tried to convince him to keep the baby here but I know what a father goes through," said Goree. "Julian always had a home here- there was not one day that his father did not know that he could bring him here.

Hardly spoiled. Poor Julian was shuffled around a lot and had not been seen by his father since a week before he was killed and an entire month had gone by the last time seen by his mother. Julian should have been with his grandpa instead of living with this bitch who likely resented caring for Julian. Wonder if Julian's dad was planning on leaving her? I thought I read that somewhere. IF that is the case, even a bigger WTF? why Julian was left there with her.

The last month alive Julian must have felt confused and forgotten. I just keep coming back to this and thinking how Julian should be alive and well had he ONLY been put first. Of course there's the matter of Julian being beat to death. If this woman wasn't capable of killing a helpless young child, the story would still be a sad one, and one we wouldn't know about, but he'd be alive having finished kinder going on to 1st grade just like my boy. Breaks my heart.



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[Silvahalo]

Girlfriend indicted in childs death

AUSTIN (KXAN) - Nichole Turner, 22, was indicted Monday in the beating death of 5-year-old Julian Soliz. Turner is the girlfriend of Ivan Soliz, the boy's father.

A Travis County Grand Jury indicted turner for causing serious bodily injury to a child with a blunt object.

On April 10, A passerby found the child's body in tall grass near a sidewalk and homes in the Wells Branch neighborhood of North Travis County.

At the time, Julian was under the care of Turner, his father's girlfriend. She reported the boy missing just a few hours before his body was found.
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On the VIDEO, the ADA explains that the murder charge is what they wanted but the DA decided the bodily injury charge would be far easier to prove. Both carry the same, 5 years to life.

The school little Julian was attending kinder before being pulled out, is very, very close to me. As I drive by it I pause and think of little Julian how he too, like my son would have just started first grade this year. My heart simply breaks for him as do many here in town. IF he simply been priority by those closest to him things might have been different. IF this bitch had not let her frustrations out on a innocent child, Julian would be alive and well today. Not one IF can be undone, that leaves a deep ache in my heart for you for you little Julian.

I hope the one who stole your life never see's the light of day again.

[tenntitanfan]

that is so funny you said that! I wondered if the Girlfriend talked to Misty Crosslin to get the do's and don'ts on telling the police "I just woke up and the child was gone!".

I bet the child was beaten too badly to go to school Thursday and Friday and he tried to escape his tormenter Saturday morning, got about a mile down the road before he bled to death.
I am also wondering with all the tatoos (I'm not tatoo bashing I have several) if the father is gang affiliated - the police did mention it. He may have been out of town doing some drug business or something - but I still can't believe he didn't call once during that week to check on his son.
Last point, the father was interested in fund raisers when he found out his son was dead, maybe he wanted to pay his court costs he knew he owed.
P.S. What the hell is calling your child your "second Meat?" - what does that even mean? I'm old is that some sort of new slang that I'm not privi to yet?

[Silvahalo]

that is so funny you said that! I wondered if the Girlfriend talked to Misty Crosslin to get the do's and don'ts on telling the police "I just woke up and the child was gone!".

I bet the child was beaten too badly to go to school Thursday and Friday and he tried to escape his tormenter Saturday morning, got about a mile down the road before he bled to death.
I am also wondering with all the tatoos (I'm not tatoo bashing I have several) if the father is gang affiliated - the police did mention it. He may have been out of town doing some drug business or something - but I still can't believe he didn't call once during that week to check on his son.
Last point, the father was interested in fund raisers when he found out his son was dead, maybe he wanted to pay his court costs he knew he owed.
P.S. What the hell is calling your child your "second Meat?" - what does that even mean? I'm old is that some sort of new slang that I'm not privi to yet?

The parents didn't kill him but you know had they made Julian number one in their lives he would have never been left alone with that bitch! How can they even live with that? The mother hadn't seen him for a month, a MONTH? fuck that is insane to me! and the father the entire week not even a call! these two have a lot of fixing to do before they can proudly go around calling themselves parents in the true sense of the word, and weep woe is me. "second meat", crude, crude way of saying second to him, his own blood you know, like calling him jr. yeah, classy.

[wishfulsinful]

Poor baby, such a cutie pie... If his dad had something to do with this heinous act, or is even covering up for the gf,(she's gotta be behind this, come on, her two kids are safe and sound at home but Julian somehow ends up missing from the apartment and later found dead?) heaven help these scumbuckets. Such a shitty situation, may you rest in peace, Julian, hope you're breaking it down on that big dancefloor in the sky...

[wishfulsinful]

cheese and rice, I didnt finish reading the entire thread until after I posted... Sorry it's been a loooooong flippin monday... I need a drink.

[Darsa]

The mother hadn't seen him for a month, a MONTH?

This is exactly what was running through my mind while reading most of this thread. Her myspace says how much she'll miss her son and loves her son etc etc, yet she left him with this person for a whole MONTH without seeing him? What the hell could have been so time-consuming, all-encompassing, that you not know what's up with your kid for a month??? I can't even go a DAY without seeing my kid, and she's FOURTEEN!!

Ugh... I just don't get some parents/people. Never will.

[Silvahalo]

Nichole Turner

Latest:
Prosecutors focus on cell records in child death case

Prosecutors used cellphone records Wednesday to paint Nichole Turner as a woman dealing with relationship and money problems in the days before 5-year-old Julian Soliz was found dead in a northern Travis County yard.Sheriff's Detective Paul Salo testified that Turner called Julian's father, Leonard Soliz, more than 100 times in less than a week. Most of the calls lasted less than 30 seconds, he said.About that same time, Turner also called the answering machine of a church that provides assistance with bills 44 times in a day.Turner, 24, is accused of beating Julian so badly in April 2010 that he died of internal bleeding. She is charged with injury to a child and could face life in prison if convicted.Turner had been Julian's sole caregiver for more than a month at the time of the child's death. Leonard Soliz had not been home since early March, but Turner continued to care for the child, allowing him to live in her Shoreline Drive apartment with her and her two other children.

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Salo said that when he told Turner that Julian had been found, she asked where and then began to cry when he said that Julian was dead.She later told him that she had hit the boy multiple times with a belt earlier in the week and that he had not been to school for two days because he was vomiting and had diarrhea, according to the testimony."She said she didn't take him to the doctor because he didn't have Medicaid," Salo said.

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Prosecutors have not told jurors that they believe Turner was the one who put Julian's body in the tall grass of an unkempt yard in the Wells Branch area. On Wednesday, however, they noted that pollen found in the driver's seat of Turner's car was similar to that found on Julian's body.Turner's lawyer, Kyle Collins, said everyone gets pollen in their car. He countered that there is no evidence that Turner dumped Julian's body where it was found. Surveillance video at Turner's apartment shows that her car did not leave the parking lot until about 6:30 a.m., the time Turner said she drove around looking for Julian, Salo said.Salo also said that DNA testing on a hair found on Julian's body could not be conclusively linked to Turner. Turner also was not seen on any of the surveillance cameras he reviewed in the area, he said. "You did not see her driving around, trying to dispose of a body, did you?" Collins asked. Salo said he had not.

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Trial underway for woman charged in death of five-year-old

AUSTIN -- The trial is now underway for an Austin woman accused of killing a five-year-old boy.In their opening statement, prosecutors painted a dark picture of Nichole Turner as someone who knowingly abused five-year-old Julian Soliz, and ultimately beat him to death.
Tearful relatives of Julian Soliz filled Judge Jim Coronado's courtroom Monday afternoon. Turner, sitting next to her attorney, never turned to look at them.
Turner pleaded not guilty to injury to a child charges, a first degree felony.
Prosecutors say Turner admits to beating the child with her hand and a belt just days before his body was found. There were more than 50 bruises on the little boy's body.
The prosecution says graphic photos from the medical examiner's office will show the five-year-old was beaten to death. They'll also have evidence of prior beatings, including a broken collarbone.

Monday afternoon the jury heard an emotional 911 call from the woman who found little Julian's body. Many in the room gasped as they were shown a picture of his body lying in the grass.
Turner says the morning Julian disappeared, she noticed he was not in his bed when she woke up, and the door was unlocked. She says she searched for him and called family and friends before calling police.
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VIDEO

Julian Soliz was fun, happy, father testifies

Julian Soliz was a happy 5-year-old and everyone loved him, the boy’s father testified in Travis County District Court on Thursday morning.“He liked to dance, sing and play, just like any other kid would,” Leonard Soliz said. (yeah he was good kid, sweet kid but you still put him last).

Soliz, 23, was the first witness on the fourth day of the trial of Nichole Turner. Turner, 24, is accused of beating Julian so badly in April 2010 that he died of internal bleeding. She is charged with injury to a child and could face life in prison if convicted.
Turner, who had dated Leonard Soliz for several years, was Julian’s sole caregiver at the time of his death. Soliz had not lived there for more than a month and had seen his son two or three times during that period, he said.


During her examination, prosecutor Victoria Winkeler bluntly asked the questions that the jury might have been asking themselves throughout the trial:
Where were you all this time? Why did you just leave your son with a woman you obviously didn’t want to be with?


Soliz said he had been living with a new girlfriend and was avoiding Turner. He didn’t answer most of her calls. When he did speak to her, he lied and said he was staying with his parents because he didn’t want any conflict, he testified.

He left Julian with Turner because she loved him and he felt the boy was safe with her. Soliz said he never saw Turner hit Julian and did not know if she was capable of seriously beating his son.
“She fed him, she clothed him, she took him to school every.
[...]

This case is local to me and there is a good mix of division on sides to what happen. Many feel the parents need to step the fuck back from the camera's playing the totally innocent, grief stricken parents. So basically Turner, his ex was caring for Julian, HIS son doing the job as a parent. Yet he finds nothing odd with that and say's he felt his son was safe with her even though it was apparent Turner was getting ever more so agitated and angry over being left to care for HIS son although not together any more.

He was too busy chasing new conquests instead of being a father and the mother IMO was not much better as she hadn't seen Julian either for over a month. Although it does not mitigate Turner from what she did but there is some blame to go around here that contributed to where Julian ended up--dead.
I'm undecided if Turner moved Julian's body herself as video does not show her doing so but IF instead Julian left the apt. unnoticed, as he was distraught left to look for his father--but how did he manage that? and what about the DNA hair on him that is inconclusive to be that of Turner's?

Bottom line Tuner did not want to be stuck with his kid any more caring for him and appeared to be struggling financially so instead of choosing to drop of Julian at his or mother's location (not sure IF she knew where that might be maybe or the 100 calls included trying to figure that out and went unreturned), NO, instead she let out her frustrations on Julian. 5yo kid who had nothing to do with the adult bullshit.
I believe it will be shown that she beat Julian not only on that day but probably during the entire time she had him in her care.
Gets me so angry that clearly Julian was ill this is why he was no longer at school days before he was found dead---she probably was calling loser, pathetic father on this too but again, no returned calls. Turner says she did not take Julian for lack of insurance. A kid is that ill and any decent person would find a way to get him help but she did not of course 'cause it would be all to obvious that Julian had been beat.
Julian got the shit, got ignored, forgotten, got dead because he wasn't deemed important enough by all those in contact with him. Not a one gave a shit.


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[Tundratot]

Soliz said he had been living with a new girlfriend and was avoiding Turner. He didn’t answer most of her calls. When he did speak to her, he lied and said he was staying with his parents because he didn’t want any conflict, he testified.

He left Julian with Turner because she loved him and he felt the boy was safe with her. Soliz said he never saw Turner hit Julian and did not know if she was capable of seriously beating his son.
“She fed him, she clothed him, she took him to school every.

What the living f***! You b**tard! He's your son, not hers. Why the hell would you leave him with a woman you are scorning, avoiding her calls and ignoring your son's welfare? You had other people willing to take him, people whom you were not cheating or scamming, people who would have no reason to take your crap out on him. You deserve to be in prison right beside Turner.

[AngelFire]

I have never read the details on Julian's last days, nor what lead up to his death. I like to keep it that way for my own sanity. But Michelle Turner I will address the cunt that you are. I like knowing she is very young in age so she may live longer locked up like an animal.

No child should have to endure such a beatings. I hate hearing or reading when an adult picks up an object to "discipline" a child. Barbaric is what that is to me..

[Silvahalo]

I have never read the details on Julian's last days, nor what lead up to his death. I like to keep it that way for my own sanity. But Michelle Turner I will address the cunt that you are. I like knowing she is very young in age so she may live longer locked up like an animal.

No child should have to endure such a beatings. I hate hearing or reading when an adult picks up an object to "discipline" a child. Barbaric is what that is to me..

agree...but it's Nichole Turner. Let's get the bitches name right and drag it in the mud!