"All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

[Athena]

Holy Shit by Echos standards that makes Athena a :gasp: racist!

Who knew?

No, not really, because everyone knows Seattle doesn't really have any black people. I don't say "urban" vs. "black" to be more PC... I say "urban" because I can't really say "black". Hardly anywhere in Seattle will you find a black majority.

To me, it's just the difference between city vs. rural in general. I had always heard of something outsiders refer to as "the Seattle Freeze". Essentially, they say we're "polite, but not friendly." I would consider that to be generally true of most major cities, and I've been to plenty of those. It wasn't until recently, however, that I went on my first vacation to the sticks, at which point I really experienced the difference between city folk and urban folk. It's a pretty significant disparity.

That said, I love the city. I probably won't ever leave. But there's really no comparison in terms of immediate hospitality.

[Twisted]

I had always heard of something outsiders refer to as "the Seattle Freeze". Essentially, they say we're "polite, but not friendly."

I actually didn't notice that while I was there. People were all about as friendly as I tend to be.

Granted, I would add that I still don't know most of my neighbors by first name, maybe only a few more on sight. I'll talk to them when they initiate conversation, but otherwise I'm hiding in my home with the blinds drawn.

So, maybe compared to me they are friendly. LOL

[MichaelJCheaney]

No, not really, because everyone knows Seattle doesn't really have any black people. I don't say "urban" vs. "black" to be more PC... I say "urban" because I can't really say "black". Hardly anywhere in Seattle will you find a black majority.

To me, it's just the difference between city vs. rural in general. I had always heard of something outsiders refer to as "the Seattle Freeze". Essentially, they say we're "polite, but not friendly." I would consider that to be generally true of most major cities, and I've been to plenty of those. It wasn't until recently, however, that I went on my first vacation to the sticks, at which point I really experienced the difference between city folk and urban folk. It's a pretty significant disparity.

That said, I love the city. I probably won't ever leave. But there's really no comparison in terms of immediate hospitality.

I WAS KIDDING.....

You city/urban folk are so literal......LOL

[Echo]

Now this is beyond stupid and dosnt deserve a responce. Its a bit uppity and snobby to be blunt. Of course I KNOW black people. Im very good friends with some black people. And OMG they have even been in my house!

I wouldn't say the things you tend to say in front of your black friends while having them over your house. They may be offended.

Snobby? No. Blunt? Yes. Us "City Trash" tend to get that way when dealing with stupidity.

[sheevaa]

I WAS KIDDING.....

You city/urban folk are so literal......LOL

What the hell is that supposed to mean, MJC? You dissing on city people? *gets all offended and huffy* :P
I've noticed people in rural areas are definitely more open to new people. My city is...nice, but not TOO nice. Don't want to encourage other people to talk to us or anything! :P

Back on topic, though. It's prank. Parents should give him a hollering and take away his Iphone/facebook privileges or something. If it had been a black kid telling all honkies to leave the store, I doubt there would have been a big deal made about it.

Athena, have you ever met Dan Savage? That bastard is my hero! I'm totally in the wrong country!

[MichaelJCheaney]

I wouldn't say the things you tend to say in front of your black friends while having them over your house. They may be offended.

Snobby? No. Blunt? Yes. Us "City Trash" tend to get that way when dealing with stupidity.

They may be offended.

Or they may say something along the lines of "Finally someone who isn't afraid to say what she really thinks!

But that is something that YOU'LL never find out....

[Echo]

Or they may say something along the lines of "Finally someone who isn't afraid to say what she really thinks!

But that is something that YOU'LL never find out....

Sorry Michael....I just don't think that way. That is the difference.

[MichaelJCheaney]

What the hell is that supposed to mean, MJC? You dissing on city people? *gets all offended and huffy* :P
I've noticed people in rural areas are definitely more open to new people. My city is...nice, but not TOO nice. Don't want to encourage other people to talk to us or anything! :P

Ya think I'm dissin ya now, just wait til I get my 10000 acre spread in the middle of nowhere, then I'll really be dissin' y'all!!

But seriously I think us "rural folk" are more open to meeting new people and are just generally LESS cynical than the people who live in the New Yorks, Chicagos and LA's of the world....and part of that is because the rural people have to be a little more self sufficient....now I'm just babbling. I'll stop now.....

But hopefully you get my point.....

[MichaelJCheaney]

Sorry Michael....I just don't think that way. That is the difference.

And that is your right.....

However calling moon stupid for saying what she thinks without sanitizing it first crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed IMO.....

[DogMom]

just wait til I get my 10000 acre spread in the middle of nowhere....

Are people better drivers out there? Things are really dangerous on the interstates out here in the Northeast corridor.

[biteme]

Are people better drivers out there? Things are really dangerous on the interstates out here in the Northeast corridor.

Now that was a great lead-in for a GREAT racial stereotype
Who's going 1st?

[MichaelJCheaney]

Are people better drivers out there? Things are really dangerous on the interstates out here in the Northeast corridor.

Lets just say I have yet to be run over by a horse. Or a Cow.

I've been to the N.E.C. namely I95 and that scared the hell outta me.....

and I don't scare easily!

[Echo]

And that is your right.....

However calling moon stupid for saying what she thinks without sanitizing it first crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed IMO.....

Correction: I called her COMMENT "stupid" and I stand by what I said. Do you know what else is really stupid? Having this conversation in 2010. Segregation ended 50 years ago, and preferring "Redneck Walmarts" to "Black Walmarts" is about as ridiculous as it gets, and defending the comment is sad and pathetic. This is actually cracking me up right now.

Dont try to whitewash this mentality. It is straight up ignorant and I'll say it again......STUPID.

Sanitizing it first ? Oh.......lol!

[MichaelJCheaney]

Correction: I called her COMMENT "stupid" and I stand by what I said. Do you know what else is really stupid? Having this conversation in 2010. Segregation ended 50 years ago, and preferring "Redneck Walmarts" to "Black Walmarts" is about as ridiculous as it gets, and defending the comment is sad and pathetic. This is actually cracking me up right now.

Dont try to whitewash this mentality. It is straight up ignorant and I'll say it again......STUPID.

Sanitizing it first ? Oh.......lol!

[Echo]

Well that's mature and not at all stupid. Did you learn that kind of behavior at the Black Walmart?

[myra manes]

I go to Target, it's like Walmart for people who make about $10K per year more.

Fuck, I wish we had Target in Canada!!

[MichaelJCheaney]

Well that's mature and not at all stupid. Did you learn that kind of behavior at the Black Walmart?

Aren't we just the funny one today?

[Echo]

Fuck, I wish we had Target in Canada!!

I heart Target.

[Pete Bondurant]

Buttwheat tay: Dis topik puken suk!

[DogMom]

Now that was a great lead-in for a GREAT racial stereotype
Who's going 1st?

I don't get it.

[DingDang]

Fuck, I wish we had Target in Canada!!

Wait, WHAT? No Target in Canada?!? Myra, that is a fucking tragedy. Can you at least shop on the website?

If you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods, please let me take you to a Target! I'll even take you to one with a Starbucks! Promise!

(I am pretty easy to please...Target + Starbucks = woohoo!)

[Aslan]

Well....it happened in Jersey so we always knew it wasn't someone driving up from the south to be "redneck."

Rednecks don't just reside in the south y'know.........

Actually, if you want to get to where the word was begun...yes. They do.
At least where it was begun here in America.
Do you even know the origins of the word Echo? Because I'm not getting that from you.

Most people, if you say the term 'redneck' aren't going to think CT.

It's a stereotype. Stereotypes exist because people live up to them. Hence my opinion of certain folks who live in NY

[malq]

This is so ridiculous it doesn't even deserve a response. But I have to ask.......do you personally KNOW any black people or do you just make generalizations about them based on your perception of them while shopping in "their" Walmart?

Serious question.

Another brilliant response from Echo.

Jesus Christ. You certainly make a mountain out of a molehill. Moon was just having an opinion that wasn't even racist.

This whole incident is exactly the kind of thing that make the real racism issue fail to be resolved. People need to quit over reacting to a single incident by a pair of dumb kids. If the offended parties really thought Walmart sanctioned this at the time it happened, that says a lot. People talk shit every day, this just happened to be over a PA which elevates it. Just the fact this thread got derailed on such bullshit bickering is proof that people are looking for something that isn't there.

[moonlilly1981]

Yes I stand by what I said uppity and snobby nothing more nothing less. Im not a PC person I say it as I see it. Yes my black friends would be okay with me saying that. They are black and they know they are black. They know the larger minority communities tend to stick together. Atleast thats how it is where im from. These places are not segregated because of Wal-Mart they are segregated because thats just how it is plain and simple. If someone is offended by the obvious then maybe they should close their eyes and not see.

Bottom line is a child pulled a prank. Now people are over reacting to the situation and boycotting the company. This wasnt sanctioned by Wal-Mart. Some people over react to stupid non-sence.

Now I shall take my dumb redneck self and go back out onto my construction site to go squish in the mud. Cause thats what us redneck girls do.

[Saffron]

I never read anyone saying they were BOYCOTTING Walmart, I read they were afraid to go back because of what was said. It also has come to light that this isn't the first time someone pulled this "prank" at this Walmart; however, this is NOW the first time they are actually DOING anything to stop the "prankster." The fact that something this evilly racist (whether a "prank" or not) is acceptable to anyone especially a 16 year old boy who was born at least 25 YEARS after the civil rights movement is absolutely disgusting to me.

I shop at a "rural" Walmart... there are just as many rude people, ethnic people and nice people there as the "urban" Walmart I also shop at... the ONLY difference is that the "rural" Walmart usually has the stuff I want to buy in the sizes I need them in and the "urban" one is closer to home but sold out of the sizes I need because there are more shoppers to compete with.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

... especially a 16 year old boy ...

The shit that teens think is funny... especially male teens... has always been beyond me. Sometimes they never outgrow it and that is far more disgusting.

[moonlilly1981]

I never read anyone saying they were BOYCOTTING Walmart, I read they were afraid to go back because of what was said. It also has come to light that this isn't the first time someone pulled this "prank" at this Walmart; however, this is NOW the first time they are actually DOING anything to stop the "prankster." The fact that something this evilly racist (whether a "prank" or not) is acceptable to anyone especially a 16 year old boy who was born at least 25 YEARS after the civil rights movement is absolutely disgusting to me.

I shop at a "rural" Walmart... there are just as many rude people, ethnic people and nice people there as the "urban" Walmart I also shop at... the ONLY difference is that the "rural" Walmart usually has the stuff I want to buy in the sizes I need them in and the "urban" one is closer to home but sold out of the sizes I need because there are more shoppers to compete with.

Thank you for the correction. I was under the impression that this was going to be blown out of proportion. I agree it was a prank that was not funny and the boy should suffer the consequences of his actions. What he did was racially driven and is not excusable. Wal-Mart has its flaws dont get me wrong. But this one is out of their control and the company shouldnt suffer for the actions of a "customer."

[Echo]

Yes I stand by what I said uppity and snobby nothing more nothing less. Im not a PC person I say it as I see it. Yes my black friends would be okay with me saying that. They are black and they know they are black. They know the larger minority communities tend to stick together. Atleast thats how it is where im from. These places are not segregated because of Wal-Mart they are segregated because thats just how it is plain and simple. If someone is offended by the obvious then maybe they should close their eyes and not see.

Bottom line is a child pulled a prank. Now people are over reacting to the situation and boycotting the company. This wasnt sanctioned by Wal-Mart. Some people over react to stupid non-sence.

Now I shall take my dumb redneck self and go back out onto my construction site to go squish in the mud. Cause thats what us redneck girls do.

The snobby thing again.......... Bottom line is this.

I find your commentary to be extremely ignorant.

When I shop, I look at prices and not the color of the skin of the shoppers. I choose my stores on the quality of the merchandise and convenience of location not the color of the skin of the people that shop there.

The fact that skin color is even a defining factor in which "Walmart You Prefer" (sorry that still makes me laugh) makes you woefully ignorant . You even went as far as to state that the people in the Redneck Walmart were "Nicer" than the "City Trash"

And don't give me this crap about not being afraid to speak your mind etc.......your opinions are straight up racist.

[Echo]

Actually, if you want to get to where the word was begun...yes. They do.
At least where it was begun here in America.
Do you even know the origins of the word Echo? Because I'm not getting that from you.

Most people, if you say the term 'redneck' aren't going to think CT.

It's a stereotype. Stereotypes exist because people live up to them. Hence my opinion of certain folks who live in NY

Asian---

I am not going to bicker about the origins of The Redneck. It may have originated in a different part of the country but we still use the term in the North East and always have.

I think my favorite thing is how riled up people get when a racist opinion is called out for what it is and put on the table. Ignorance infuriates me and I call it when I see it and I always will............I don't give a shit how "certain folks" feel about it.

[sheevaa]

And don't give me this crap about not being afraid to speak your mind etc.......your opinions are straight up racist.

What parts, Echo? I didn't think any of what Moon said was racist. Didn't strike me that way, anyway.