Student admits hanging noose in campus library

**Whisper** · February 27th, 2010, 07:36 PM

(CNN) --

The University of California San Diego has suspended a student who admitted to hanging a noose in a campus library, school officials announced Friday.

"We are feeling real pain, and we will take real action," said UCSD chancellor Marye Anne Fox told reporters. "The safety of our students, faculty, and staff is my primary concern."

The student, whose identity was not released, admitted Friday to police at the University of California San Diego that she hung a noose Thursday night in the library, police said.

"Detectives have interviewed the student and taken a statement," UCSD police said in a release. "The investigation is ongoing as we continue to identify and interview witnesses."

After Thursday's discovery, hundreds of people joined a campus rally to oppose racial intolerance. "It's OK to feel hurt and angry about this," said one participant. "We've been silent for too long."

Watch iReport of campus protest

One student said she feared for her safety.

The student's admission came the day after police were alerted to the presence of the noose in a library bookcase at the school. Fox said the admission was a result of "pressure from our UC San Diego community."

"This underscores the fact that our university is banding together," she said.

In a crime alert bulletin, police said they received several reports Thursday around 10:30 p.m. of the noose on the seventh floor of the Geisel Library. It was found hanging in an aisle facing windows.

"Officers spoke with people who were in the area, but no one witnessed the noose being placed on the bookcase," police said in a campus notice.

Hanging a noose with intent to terrorize is a crime, it noted.

On Friday, the school announced several measures it was taking in response to recommendations from its Black Student Union. They include the establishment of a task force on minority faculty recruitment, a new commission to addressing declining African-American enrollment and finding space for an African-American resource center.

"I want to emphasize these are the initial steps, and I realize we have a lot of work ahead of us," Fox said.

The noose incident occurred two weeks after Black History Month was mocked in an off-campus party that was condemned by the school.
It's unclear how long the student is suspended for.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
University suspends student who admits hanging noose in library

Hundreds attend campus rally to oppose racial intolerance

Incident comes weeks after Black History Month was mocked in off-campus party

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/26/cal...ose/index.html

**Dakota Valkyrie** · February 27th, 2010, 08:06 PM

One student said she feared for her safety.

Did she have an uncontrollable urge to stick her head in it? I wonder how she feels about electrical outlets.

**Whisper** · February 27th, 2010, 08:12 PM

Yeah I noticed that,shes either a drama queen or shes a skank with reason to fear for her life>?I dont know

**Pete Bondurant** · February 27th, 2010, 08:33 PM

As long as there is nothing in the noose...what is the big deal?

Anyway...in my Klavern...we use flame-throwers.

**Aslan** · February 27th, 2010, 09:21 PM

Off campus party
Filling in the blanks about whether or not it was an attempt to terrorize

Thought police much?
Maybe she was putting it there to make some point or other that was not at all what they are implying she intended?

Zero idea, just tossing out alternatives.
Not really comfortable with them using the 'off-campus' party angle. That should be out of bounds.

**TheDepressor** · February 27th, 2010, 10:33 PM

I agree, I don't understand, based on what they published, how they can determine it was a hate crime or intent to terrorize. How stupid. If that's really all there is to it, I would get a lawyer if I was that girl and really start threatening. Hell, maybe she was doing some nautical training on knots and was planning to go sailing. And, an off campus party mocking black history month..so long as nobody was hurt and it wasn't inciting violence, who the hell cares? It was off campus and, last I checked, we still have SOME constitutional rights in this country. At least for now damnit! Take advantage while you can!

**Aslan** · February 27th, 2010, 10:48 PM

My thing with the off campus party thing is as follows. If I happen to be at someone's house during a party that isn't work sanctioned (stay with me) and someone says something I don't agree with (or hell, even if I do) and 2 WEEKS later I do something stupid, I don't want that being used against me as well.
If I'm not at work, not at work. Not on school grounds. Not on school grounds.
Seems pretty simple to me.

I don't know if this girl did this out of racism. If she did she's an idiot. It's old, it's stupid and it's lame.
I'm just really bothered about the whole 'holding something against you due to a party held off campus' thing

**TheDepressor** · February 27th, 2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Aslan

My thing with the off campus party thing is as follows. If I happen to be at someone's house during a party that isn't work sanctioned (stay with me) and someone says something I don't agree with (or hell, even if I do) and 2 WEEKS later I do something stupid, I don't want that being used against me as well.
If I'm not at work, not at work. Not on school grounds. Not on school grounds.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Well that and whomever had that party needs to stop inviting tattletales

I agree and I was able to follow you perfectly! I'm out of thanks though, but THANKS!

**CadburyCremeGirl** · February 28th, 2010, 07:12 AM

Well I am going to say my peace and then proceed to probally piss every single person off. I have a fever so at the moment I don't care.
But that being said, the noose thing can be thought of as a threat. Honestly, it shows cowardice as that there is no face to put to it. Maybe the girl was trying to send a threat to the "mud races" that the "superior race" will do them in. If so, she's an idiot and deserves to be punched in the cunt, not suspended.
I went to a school where boys(yes white) would make nooses to harrass the black students. Was told constantly that I was not attractive enough as a date because of my dark complexion. I've had a few folks call me the "n" word. A good bit(read: alot) of the kids at my school were indoctrinated into the Klan. And this was in a military town. Yet, I move to a private college(liberal arts at that!) only one city over and felt more racism there than at the high school. The white students would speak of the fear that they felt from being surrounded by black students, all while telling the "Safe blacks" that they weren't talking about THEM..but the others. There were quite a few "christian" folks who honestly wanted all black people to go away. Even the ones they got along with. The KA frat would have Sourthern pride week, which someone would end up dressed as a Klan member. I end up being asked the dumbest questions about black culture because "the other black people were just SO MEAN"(it wasn't that they were mean, it was that I was "Safe": raised in the suburbs, mom was a doc, etc).
That being said, folks of all races seem to want to feel terrorized/get butt hurt. We as a people have been so far removed from true evil that we literally MAKE drama for ourselves. Example, in my state of louisiana there is a place called Jena. In Jena there was a high school where, like most high schools, the folks were willingly segregrating. It even got to the point where there was a white tree and a black tree. I know, stupid.
Anyway, one of the students went to said white tree to cool off. Next day, there is a noose on the black tree.
This is seen as a declaration of war of sorts. Well, the white students and black students started having little skirmishes, which led to 6 or so black students beating the living crap out of a white student. Well, the school got involved.
Story ends, right? Wrong.
Someone got their panties in a bunch and tried to get the boys in jail for longer than the maximum amount you get for assualt. The judge tried to try it as attempted murder.
Let the face palming begin.
Well, some people got involved(okay loads) of people got involved and it got turned around, but not without doing three things:
1) casting every single person in Jena as racist
2) laying bare how much Louisiana truly sucks
3) Pushing the idea that blacks=still being oppressed and whites=evil bastards
This, my hons, is drama at it's finest.
And drama does nothing but holds folks back.
They don't need to "come together" and castigate themselves because of a bunch of rich white kids having an anti black history month party. Same thing for the noose. All it does is belittles the problem of racism by saying: "hey, if we throw enough money/look sad enough/force people into our idea of what acceptance is, our white guilt will go away"
Ignore them. What they are doing is ATTENTION SEEKING BEHAVIOR.
Worry about the more important things, like that there are more little ones dying than what we know what to do with. Or that we have a runaway spending problem. Or that women still make 20 cents less then men. Not that we have a bunch of douchebags running around emulating the worst of black culture. Let them make fools of themselves. When they die in a pool of their own vomit because they were binge drinking, I think they'll learn.
But hardly anyone really thinks this way. Why? Because white guilt feels GOOD. It keeps you from doing something of worth and instead allows you to get caught up in all this stupid symbolism. It fetishizes other races and makes us(minorities) feel like pokemon because everyone has to have that one black friend! And personally it makes me feel even more different, when all I want is to see what we have in common.
It's disgusting and needs to stop. Just let it go. Slavery happened a long time ago. Yes, there is still vestiages of institutionalized racism. And we should fight it. But this coddling folks who feel butt hurt over an effin party...needs to go away.
It stops the real progress and actually aids folks who see me and my white boyfriend as a threat despite the fact we're more prone to look for Gir chew toys than desire to start a war.
I'm going to take my thera flu.

**malq** · February 28th, 2010, 07:30 AM

Cadbury,
I think this is the best post I have seen on DD ever. The world needs more of you.
Thank you
Malq

**TheMorningStar** · February 28th, 2010, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by CadburyCremeGirl

And personally it makes me feel even more different, when all I want is to see what we have in common.

I just fell in love with you.

**Jezebel** · February 28th, 2010, 01:40 PM

How can you ask how someone fears for their safety if a noose was hung up and had nothing hanging from it?
ITS Disgusting, you guys are disgusting.
I'm sticking to the front page
There's alot of white bullshit going on in this thread and forum.

**Pete Bondurant** · February 28th, 2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by malq

Cadbury,
I think this is the best post I have seen on DD ever. The world needs more of you.
Thank you
Malq

Hey...what about my post concerning gay lion-tamers spreading AIDS?

Anyway...I remember these Jena incidents. It is a bad sign when thugs become heroes, like Marion Barry and O.J. Simpson.

**Whisper** · February 28th, 2010, 01:59 PM

I have to take a pic later but the reason this story caught my attention is last fall as I was cleaning my guest room I looked out and on the roof where the porch roof is theres a small rope noose! Did I freak and call cops or anyone ???No b/c I knew someplace there was a explanation for it.I didnt see it as a threat.Turns out KIDS next door had lost a toy on the roof and were trying to snag it like kids do!! white bullshit going on in this thread and forum. <<thats bullshit and if you feel that way then stick to the FP and dont read it!!Plain and simple MOVE ALONG!! when i get back ill see if the snow has melted enough to get a pic of the "noose" on my roof.(yeah its still there b/c I havent had time or felt threatened by it)

**Nell** · February 28th, 2010, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jezebel

How can you ask how someone fears for their safety if a noose was hung up and had nothing hanging from it?
ITS Disgusting, you guys are disgusting.
I'm sticking to the front page
There's alot of white bullshit going on in this thread and forum.

Someone should sig that bolded part. It is epic.

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Nell

Someone should sig that bolded part. It is epic.

It would be perfect for Pete

**Pete Bondurant** · February 28th, 2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by TheDepressor

It would be perfect for Pete

It would be perfect to print out and place at the bottom of a bird cage.

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 02:49 PM

Nah, my bird only gets top of the line newspaper.. Nothing but the NY Times for him. Well, if I ever get a bird, that is.

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 02:51 PM

Besides, she was directing her frustrated message at you Pete due to the whole nothing in the noose comment, which I found funny but I guess she didn't.

**Abroad** · February 28th, 2010, 02:54 PM

This thread started out a bit confusing and became enlightening as it went along. I would never have guessed to what extent nooses have been equated with violence against blacks before.

Ask me what a noose means and up until yesterday I would have interpreted it as a comment on capital punishment....... But then I don't live in the US.

**Rockin Ma** · February 28th, 2010, 03:05 PM

Anyone hanging a noose anywhere is doing it specifically as a mean message to black people... period. It should not be tolerated.

CT passed new regulations on that like a year or so ago. It was crafted very carefully so people could still use them as halloween props!

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Abroad

This thread started out a bit confusing and became enlightening as it went along. I would never have guessed to what extent nooses have been equated with violence against blacks before.

Ask me what a noose means and up until yesterday I would have interpreted it as a comment on capital punishment....... But then I don't live in the US.

Hmm, that is a very good point! Which is why I said that I want more info as to why she did it before punishing her. The article did not say anything that she confessed to doing it as a threat against anyone. Which is why I don't understand how she could get in trouble. Here in NJ, back around Halloween, there was a bit of an incident about an old man who really did up his front lawn with decorations...fake graves, lights, and skeletons and monsters hanging from trees. Well, he (apparently) made a huge mistake by using some black fabric as the faces and hanging them by nooses. He explained that the black and dark colors faded into the dark better and looked scarier than light/bright colors. And, he also said how he used fishing line in the past but, either by wind or kids, they were too easily snapped. So, he used nooses. It was a big deal on a slow newsday for a popular radio station here, NJ101.5. And, he had been doing it for years, but only had an issue of it being hateful and disrespectful this year. Not really sure how it ended though. Hell, I'm not even sure what got me started on this particular rant.

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rockin Ma

Anyone hanging a noose anywhere is doing it specifically as a mean message to black people... period. It should not be tolerated.

CT passed new regulations on that like a year or so ago. It was crafted very carefully so people could still use them as halloween props!

Ah ha! That's what got my rant started! You must have been typing at the same time and I picked up on it. Ok, not really. But, I must have been typing my rant at the same time you posted about the halloween props.

**Rockin Ma** · February 28th, 2010, 03:13 PM

We got a psychic connection...lol

A noose was found hanging at a construction site, clearly a racist statement. CT quickly made laws for it, but was mindful of how often they are used at Halloween and closed that loophole.

However, we will see how many try to use it to get their racists points across next Halloween.

**Pete Bondurant** · February 28th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rockin Ma

We got a psychic connection...lol

A noose was found hanging at a construction site, clearly a racist statement. CT quickly made laws for it, but was mindful of how often they are used at Halloween and closed that loophole.

However, we will see how many try to use it to get their racists points across next Halloween.

There are a great many hip-hop/rap "songs" that are racist....and threatening.....I'd be all for enacting legislation against that as well.

**TheDepressor** · February 28th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Thinking about it, it is actually pretty sad that something that you learn in boyscouts can come to represent something involving hate. Eh, wouldn't be the first time I guess. Look at the swastika.

**Abroad** · February 28th, 2010, 03:21 PM

A noose was found hanging at a construction site, clearly a racist statement.

In Denmark it would be a statement by the union that the contractor in this site is under-paying his workers.......

But I'll take your interpretation for the symbolic meaning in the US setting as likely correct. You live there.

**Rockin Ma** · February 28th, 2010, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Abroad

In Denmark it would be a statement by the union that the contractor in this site is under-paying his workers.......

But I'll take your interpretation for the symbolic meaning in the US setting as likely correct. You live there.

I guess it was not a construction site, sorry Abroad:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_hav...e_200910231734

Updated: Friday, 23 Oct 2009, 6:51 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 23 Oct 2009, 5:43 PM EDT

By: Annie Rourke
Cheshire (WTNH) - The West Haven man had only been on the job for two months, but there was tension with one of his co-workers. Things got really bad when that co-worker did something very inappropriate, but now the victim's paying the price.

Keith Brantley had been working the overnight shift at Bozzuto's in Cheshire in the parts department. He and another co-worker were not getting along, Brantley said. He was the only African-American in that particular department.

"In my area, in the area I work in, the mechanics area, the maintenance part, I am," Brantley said.

Two weeks ago, he came in to find the most disturbing thing. It was a man made of black wire hung by a noose and to top it off, there was a note.

"Little note is saying, 'you don't think we hang people here,'" Brantley said.

Brantley reported it and that co-worker got fired but things only got worse.

"Everybody's hostile now, nobody's speaking to me, everybody speaks to me, everyday, everybody, nobody's speaking to me anymore, I go in the break room, everybody leaves out," Brantley said.

Brantley said the co-workers friends have gone after him.

"They had a picture of me sitting there sleeping on my break, I'm on my break, but they said that I wasn't, they couldn't prove I was on my break or not," Brantley said.

He got suspended for three daysand when he came back things got ugly.

"The guy comes up to me, he tells me, he says, you're acting like a n*****, I said, no, you're acting like a n*****," Brantley said.

Brantley was told to document the incident and he did. But then he was brought up to security and told Bozzuto's has a zero-tolerance policy for racial words and he had used the "n" word.

So, Brantley was fired.

"I'm fired, I'm without a job and I'm without a job because it was not stopped in the first place, it shouldn't have never even happened," Brantley said. "If there's an African-American in the workplace or wherever, you don't hang a little black steel man on a noose for me to see it," Brantley said.

**Rockin Ma** · February 28th, 2010, 03:34 PM

Slave owners would hang that noose as a warning to the black folk of what will happen to them if they are disobedient. It's definately a big deal.

In Rhode Island:

Airport Police investigating possible hate crime
Updated: Wednesday, 15 Apr 2009, 9:22 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 15 Apr 2009, 9:21 AM EDT

Nancy Krause
Reporting By: Sean Daly
WARWICK, R.I. (WPRI) - Allied Aviation has fired three of its workers at T.F. Green Airport in Warwick after a noose was hung over the desk of a black employee.

According to John Valles, he was on vacation Feb. 15 when a colleague found the noose hanging over his desk.

"I took it as a racial slur. A hate crime. That's how I took it," Valles said.

Allied Aviation, a florida-based fuel company, said after conducting an internal investigation it recently fired three people in connection with the incident.

"We have a zero tolerance policy for any type of discrimination or harrassment," said Mike Kiouses of Allied Aviation.

Eric Carlin, one of the men who was fired, claimed he was dismissed for taking a cell phone picture of the noose. He claims he took the picture for evidence.

Valles said Carlin is is friend and he doesn't believe he was part of the incident.

Kiouses said Carlin was fired for failing to follow company policy by not reporting the incident immediately to a manager.

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/nationa...00904142312349

**Abroad** · February 28th, 2010, 03:36 PM

Two weeks ago, he came in to find the most disturbing thing. It was a man made of black wire hung by a noose and to top it off, there was a note.

"Little note is saying, 'you don't think we hang people here,'" Brantley said.

Unquestionably racist.

And the company took the opportunity of getting rid of him for using the N-word, because they could better afford to loose him than all the racist workers, all the while claiming consistency.

I would be interested to know if the other worker who used the N-word was also fired?