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    Carlos Cruz ends custody battle with a bullet.

    Victim's MySpace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=25492217

    NEW YORK (WBZ) ― Two men have been arrested for the murder of a young mother from Worcester County in New York City. One of them is the victim's former fiancé.

    Chelsea Frazier, 18, of Southbridge was shot and killed in the Bronx Sunday afternoon. Her fiancé Carlos Cruz, 36, was wounded and their 14-month old son Alijah witnessed the attack.

    Cruz and his cousin, Devon Miller, 25, of the Bronx, were charged with first-degree murder Tuesday.

    http://wbztv.com/local/worcester/Che....2.700025.html

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    Thanks for the update NurseRonda.

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    You're welcome, I have been watching this. Could you post some pictures???

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    Pictures would bring this post to life....lol
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...y_in_plot.html
    Here's some pictures. Does these creeps have a My Space page?

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    Man, thats tough. And the baby is the biggest victim.


    Still, I always hold judgement when I see something like this. When I was younger, I was fucking a nice chic, but a chic who would be a terrible mother--and that was my mistake. Later, she said she was pregnant. I asked her, of course, if she would relinquish custody to me if that was the case---she was one of these ho-bags who used junk all the time, was too selfish to ever care for a child---but she said...no. She said she wanted custody because she was the woman.

    Let me tell you, that thank God she wasnt ever pregnant, but if she was, I had actually hatched a plan to kill her after she gave birth. And to this day, it would've been the best thing for that child had she died. She wouldve ruined it's life. Ruined it.

    Thank goodness none of that had to transpire, lol, but yeah....some people shouldnt be allowed to be parents. This instance, obviously, doesnt appear similar at all, but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diabolical Mr. Lieman View Post
    When I was younger, I was fucking a nice chic...she was one of these ho-bags who used junk all the time, was too selfish to ever care for a child.
    I'm confused, nice chic or ho-bag?
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    Note to self:

    Don't fuck with Lieman. He's crazy...

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c..._trying_t.html

    Now he says he was just trying to scare her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard View Post
    I'm confused, nice chic or ho-bag?
    Lol, nice LOOKING chic. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathy View Post
    Note to self:

    Don't fuck with Lieman. He's crazy...
    Heh, no, just looking out for the kid if there was one, thats all. Perfectly normal here. (looks around) Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diabolical Mr. Lieman View Post
    Perfectly normal here. (looks around) Anyone?
    Oh...yes, Mr. L...perfectly (clears throat) normal.

    (Backs away slowly....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Diabolical Mr. Lieman View Post
    . Perfectly normal here. (looks around) Anyone?
    DML, just the fact that you joined this site and post frequently, proves that you are not even CLOSE to normal. That's why we all come here - to be with all of the other f***** up people like ourselves. At least, I do. And no, I am not perfectly normal - far from it actually. Perfect, yes; normal, not on your fuck'n life!

    Where else can you find a website that has a cussing Angel, Jesus, Satan, and an Imp with a broken wing? We also have a talking Lizard and a mythical Goddess. We have Pagans, Witches, atheists, agnostics, Catholics, Jews, and even a few Christians. And we all seem to get along fine....I ask you, does any of this sound normal to you? Yeah, me neither, I rest my case. :D

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    A man accused of hiring his cousin to kill his girlfriend in front of their toddler son said he did it for love of the boy, according to a videotaped confession played in court yesterday.

    Carlos Cruz, 36, of Southbridge, Mass., said he set up the fatal April 2008 shooting of Chelsea Frazier, 18, in The Bronx because she was limiting his contact with the boy.

    "I was just doing it for love, for my kid," Cruz confessed.

    Prosecutors say Cruz hired Devon Miller to kill Frazier, and then shoot Cruz as they sat in a parked car to make it look like a robbery. Their son, who was also inside the car, was not hurt.

    Cruz's trial begins today in Bronx Supreme Court. Miller will be tried separately.
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    Carlos Cruz, man who hired cousin to kill ex Chelsea Frazier, sentenced to life in prison
    A jealous sociopath who had his ex-girlfriend murdered in front of their toddler because he didn't want to pay child support will never get out of jail.

    But Carlos Cruz's sentence of life in prison without parole wasn't harsh enough for the loved ones of his victim, 18-year-old Chelsea Frazier.
    "I hope that you rot in hell and die a slow, painful death," Frazier's tearful mother, Robin Snow, told a silent Cruz, 38, in a Bronx courtroom Monday.

    Jilted by Frazier, Cruz paid a cousin $700 to kill her and make it look like a robbery while they were visiting the Bronx from her hometown of Southbridge, Mass., in April 2008.

    Their 14-month-old, Alijah, was in the backseat when the hired gun executed Frazier - and then ran off without shooting Cruz, which had been planned to make it look legit.
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    Cruz ended up chasing the hit man down the street, screaming, "You forgot to shoot me!" Cruz was then shot in the thigh, authorities said.
    More than 30 of Frazier's friends and family were in the courtroom, wearing pins with her photo, as Bronx Supreme Court Justice Barbara Newman sentenced Cruz to the maximum. "Your crime shows that you are an extremely vicious and dangerous person," Newman said. "You have demonstrated that you cannot be in a free society."
    In a victim impact statement, Snow was blunter.
    "You are a poor excuse for a human being," she said.

    Snow is raising Alijah and has changed the boy's last name to Frazier.
    [...]
    "How do you explain to a child that his father is a ruthless killer?" Frazier's sister Corey Plouffe asked. "[Cruz] deserves to be tormented for his crime"

    Cruz's lawyer Patrick Bruno said he couldn't defend his client's actions.
    "It's an exceptionally troubling case," said Bruno, who apologized to Frazier's family in court.
    The accused hit man, Devon Miller, is expected to go on trial this month.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...o_life_in.html

    Carlos Cruz (r.) was sentenced for paying his cousin to murder his child's mother Chelsea Frazier.

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    Devon Miller found guilty of first-degree murder of 18-year-old mom Chelsea Frazier

    He killed her because his cousin didn't want to pay child support.
    A Bronx jury Wednesday found Devon Miller guilty of shooting an 18-year-old mom dead in front of her toddler.
    He gladly did the deed in a staged shooting orchestrated by his cousin Carlos Cruz, who Miller also shot as part of the plan.
    Cruz paid Miller, 27, to take out Chelsea Frazier because he didn't want to pay child support. He figured that if his cousin also shot him, cops would never know.

    He was wrong.
    It took jurors in Bronx Supreme Court less than two days to return a first-degree murder conviction that will likely keep Miller behind bars for the rest of his life.
    "I'm just ecstatic," Frazier's mother, Robin Snow, said. "I'm grateful for everybody who worked so hard for my daughter."
    Prosecutor Allen Karen - who called the defendant during closing arguments "a violent, vicious, remorseless, arrogant, stupid contract killer" - said he knew Miller would be found guilty.
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    Miller's mother wiped away tears after the verdict was read as her son left the courtroom sporting long dreadlocks - the same hairdo that helped cops connect him to witness descriptions of the shooter when he visited his cousin in the hospital.

    Miller later led detectives to the murder weapon and confessed on videotape.
    Frazier's son, Alijah, is now being raised by Snow.
    Cruz, 38, had been convicted and sent to prison for life without parole two months ago.
    Lynn Frazier, the victim's father, said Miller should meet the same fate when he's sentenced June 29.
    "I hope he'll end up like Cruz," he said. "That's all I can hope for."
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...a_frazier.html

    Devon Miller could face life in prison for murdering Chelsea Frazier

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    A 27-year-old Bronx, N.Y., man who was offered $1,000 and a gold chain to kill his Southbridge cousin’s ex-girlfriend will never get out of prison.

    Devon Miller was sentenced yesterday to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole in the shooting death of 18-year-old Chelsea M. Frazier of Southbridge, Bronx District Attorney Robert T. Johnson said.
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