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    David R. Yates had 5 week old twins.

    BARABOO, Wis. - Five-week-old twins found dead were being cared for by their father who is now hospitalized and in police custody on probation violations, authorities said Monday.

    Autopsies were being performed to determine how Savannah K. and Tyler R. Yates died, said Lt. Rob Sinden of the Baraboo Police Department.

    The babies were found Sunday about 8 p.m. after police were contacted to check on the welfare of the people living in the home, Sinden said.

    No one initially responded so officers entered the home and found the babies' father, David R. Yates, 45, in bed and then found the babies, Sinden said.

    "They are absolutely suspicious deaths and are being investigated as such," he said. "We are awaiting multiple pieces of information to put the puzzle together. We got just about all of our resources targeted on working on this case."

    The babies' mother, Susan Winbun, did not live at Yates' home, Sinden said. "We have talked to her. I can't comment on what her statements were."

    Sinden declined comment on why David Yates was taken to a hospital but said he was arrested on a probation violation and was being guarded by police in the hospital.

    Yates' probation involved misdemeanor convictions in February for bail jumping and disorderly conduct, and a fifth offense drunken driving conviction in 2006, Sinden said. Two misdemeanor counts of domestic battery were dismissed as part of a plea bargain in the case decided in February, according to online court records.

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    2 infant twins dead in home

    Parts of story edited out. See the link at the bottom for full story.


    Baraboo: Baraboo Police were called to a home on Lake Street Sunday night. Police say someone had called and asked them to check on the welfare of 45 year old David Yates and his two infant children, 5 week old twins Savannah and Tyler.

    When police arrived nobody answered the door. "Eventually the officers peered into the home and later gained information that they made the decision to go inside and make sure everybody was ok inside," says Lt. Rob Sinden.

    Police found David Yates lying in bed. "A subsequent search following contacting Mr. Yates, located the two infants, unfortunately deceased," says Lt. Sinden.

    Yates was no stranger to police. "We have had contact with him on prior occasions," says Lt. Sinden.

    David Yates was arrested for domestic battery last fall and convicted of domestic abuse-disorderly conduct in February. According to court records Yates got into an argument with his pregnant girlfriend, Susan Bird-Winbun. Yates hit her, slapped her and choked her.

    Yates was sentenced to 12 months in jail, but the sentence was withheld on the condition he receive anger management counseling.

    Less than a month after his conviction Susan Bird-Winbun gave birth to the twins. Her ex-husband has confirmed to NBC 15 those children are now dead.

    here is the link:

    http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/17668004.html


    This info was taken from....wait for it.....FUBAR!!!

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    Well damn!!

    Looks like we both posted this one within 2 minutes of each other. LOL

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    Next thing you know, we're gonna be fighting over stories. :D

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    what kind of furniture are you gonna use? everyone knows it's not a real fight unless furniture is involved. & let us know where the fight is gonna be posted. Pretty please!!!!!!!;)

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    Or maybe one of you could recruit 5 or 6 of your friends to help you kick the other one's ass, and post a couple more friends to be lookouts. Hey, it could happen! Oh, wait, that's right, it already did happen. My bad. As you were....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Or maybe one of you could recruit 5 or 6 of your friends to help you kick the other one's ass, and post a couple more friends to be lookouts. Hey, it could happen! Oh, wait, that's right, it already did happen. My bad. As you were....


    I'll call Dr. Phil and have him on standby to bail them out ASAP! :D

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    David R. Yates had 5 week old twins.

    Hmmm... maybe a folding chair. :D

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    The autopsy seems to indicate that (big surprise) the twins were murdered:

    http://www.channel3000.com/news/15889229/detail.html

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    David R. Yates had 5 week old twins.

    Here is the father.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Unamused Cat View Post
    Here is the father.


    Looks like something's been eating his face. And he has that ferret look about him. Scary.

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    It looks like it was brain and head trauma. :(

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/...s/twins_dead_1

    A father was charged Wednesday with killing his two five-week-old twins found dead under his bed with brain and other head injuries, authorities said.
    Officers entered the home, found Yates sleeping in bed and then found the babies underneath it, the complaint said.

    An officer became suspicious when he saw a green blanket with a "dark colored substance" on it in a laundry hamper next to a bassinet, the complaint said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathy View Post
    It looks like it was brain and head trauma. :(

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/...s/twins_dead_1
    Did anyone check to see if there were any "baby sized" holes in the walls? :grrrrrr:

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    Update ~

    David Yates, 45, filed motions so he can get back into his home to collect the belongings from his condo.

    The court agreed, with supervision, to allow that.

    http://www.channel3000.com/news/1621...s=c3k&psp=news

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    Officers entered the home, found Yates sleeping in bed and then found the babies underneath it, the complaint said.

    An officer became suspicious when he saw a green blanket with a "dark colored substance" on it in a laundry hamper next to a bassinet, the complaint said.
    Under the bed? While he slept above the bodies of those babies? *sigh* WTF?!?!

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    Well this just pisses me off. Beautiful babies...Let me at the fucker.

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    OMG! My heart just totally broke! I cannot believe this shit! OMG! I'm so fucking angry at people like this. WHY the FUCK did he have those kids in his care? What is his excuse for murdering these little babies? I would've taken them, obviously in those pictures people in that family loved them (you can see the smile in one of the pictures). I just don't fucking get it. I want to torture this guy! I have a hard time having children and I just can't fucking get over shit like this!

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    He looks like an old homeless bum. How is it that he had two beautiful babies in the first place, much less kill them?

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    It gets even more sickening as this goes on. the mother did an interview with Channel 27 out of madison, where she's talking about how Yates is an "amazing man" when he's not drinking. She takes no accountablility for her actions, continuing to say that she only left them with Yates when she was at work. Except she works in TIMESHARE. There are no 3 day shifts in timeshare sales.

    Some argue she had no choice or she would go to jail, but that is not the case. She wasn't divorced from her previous mate at the time of their birth, so legally, Yates had no legal rights or responsibilities at this time. She did not have to leave them there at all, much less for three days.

    Susan was busted a few years ago for using her 16-y-o foster child in her drug manufacturing business, so ability to make good decision was obviously completely lacking.

    The 911 tapes were just partially released, and in then, she says that she was concerned, because he had blacked out a week earlier. A good parent doesn't leave their tiny babies with a man with a violent history, mental disorder, alcohol problem AND had passed out just a week before. If no other option, you leave them there not one minute extra. This mother is just as responsible for what happened as Yates. She may not have killed them, but she created the situation to allow it to happen.

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    The attorney for twin infants murder defendant David R. Yates might present evidence to the jury arguing another person, the victims' mother Susan Winbun of Baraboo, killed them, a judge ruled Thursday.

    Yates, 46, of Baraboo, appeared in Sauk County Circuit Court with his attorney, John M. Brinckman of La Crosse, for a hearing on a number of pretrial motions. Representing the prosecution were Sauk County District Attorney Patricia Barrett and Sauk County Assistant DA Kevin Calkins.

    Yates is scheduled for a three-week trial beginning Oct. 1 on charges he killed his 5-week-old children, Tyler and Savannah Yates, during the weekend of April 13, 2008.

    That evening, Winbun, who was not living with Yates, called police to Yates' Lake Street home after he didn't answer the door when she came to pick up the children. A Baraboo police officer found Yates lying in bed drugged and confused, according to court testimony. When questioned, he gave conflicting stories about where the children were.

    A short time later the officer found the children's ashen and battered bodies under the bed. An autopsy found they sustained fatal blows to their heads and other serious injuries from 12 to 24 hours before they were found, according to court testimony.

    Brinckman argued a "Denny motion" before Circuit Court Judge James Evenson. It was based on legal rulings governing when a defense attorney is allowed to argue a known third person committed a murder rather than the person the state has charged.

    Brinckman argued Winbun had stronger motives to kill the children than Yates did and the opportunity to do it as well. He said Winbun didn't want the children, that she wanted to extract money from Yates and to hurt him after he spurned her.

    He presented postings Winbun put on a parents support website showing changes in her attitude toward Yates,

    A posting in August 2007 is written just after she learns she is pregnant and says the revelation has left her "reeling." Yates, she writes, is thrilled and she finds that encouraging.

    A Sept. 4 posting has Winbun angry because Yates accepted a promotion and will move to Virginia just when she learns she is carrying twins. She refers to him as a "selfish b@$*@#& that would choose a job over his family."

    A Feb. 5, 2008, text message to Yates shows Winbun angry he is going to the new job with another woman and "leaving me behind 2 raise our children I don't want," court records show.

    In addition to having a motive, Brinckman said at one point Winbun had a key to Yates home, perhaps giving her access to the residence.

    Barrett countered that it is not surprising for a woman who is having a man's child to expect financial support from him. Winbun's hatred of Yates has a pre-existing basis, a history of domestic battery on his part, she said.

    A change in the locks at Yates' home raises questions about whether she could have entered without permission, Barrett said.

    "If there is a financial motive, Winbun has an interest in keeping these children alive," she said. "She could litigate his fatherhood and financial responsibility."

    After nearly an hour of the parties making their cases, Evenson ruled Brinckman met the requirements of the Denny precedent and may present evidence Winbun could be the guilty party.

    The judge also must rule on whether the charges against Yates should be dismissed because the prosecution destroyed evidence that theoretically could have proven he is innocent.

    Baraboo Police Department Detective Sgt. Chris Nielsen testified he recovered Yates' cell phone from his kitchen counter with bloody smears on its back. He said he sampled the smears to check for DNA evidence and photographed the phone noting a poor-quality fingerprint in the blood. Nielsen said he then sterilized the phone with bleach because at the time he thought, incorrectly, it was necessary before he submitted the phone to state computer experts who would retrieve messages and call data from it.

    Nielsen said he did not believe the fingerprint was well-defined enough to be useful evidence. He said the DNA from the blood smear and potential DNA traces left by the person who touched it would be better evidence than the print.

    "If that fingerprint came back to someone other than Mr. Yates, that would be very important to this case, Brinckman said.

    Yates is serving four years at the state prison in Green Bay after having his probation revoked on charges of domestic abuse and drunken driving in 2008. If he is convicted, he faces life in prison.
    http://www.wiscnews.com/portagedaily...cc4c03286.html

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    I just do not understand how someone could murder a small child/baby. How can you look at that innocent face and do that.
    Poor babies.

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    His trial has started:
    Voices quavered and tears flowed in Sauk County Circuit Court on Monday as witnesses described finding the bodies of infant murder victims Tyler and Savannah Yates.

    The twins' father, David R. Yates, faces life in prison if a jury finds he battered his children to death in April 2008, as county authorities charge.
    [...]

    Patrol Officer Mike Pichler testified he came to Yates' home after a dispatcher notified him of Winbun's call for assistance. After his own repeated attempts to get someone to answer the door failed, he entered the home through an open patio door.

    Pichler said he found Yates laying in the master bedroom and, with some difficulty, roused him. Yates appeared to be lethargic, confused and unsteady on his feet.

    When asked where the children were, Yates said they were at a friend's house. When Pichler asked how that could be - given that the children's car seats were still in the condo - Yates said the friend brought his own car seats.

    Pichler said he handcuffed Yates and locked him in a squad car after Yates picked up a pair of scissors in a way the officer found threatening.

    It was on a second search through the darkened bedroom that Pichler saw a child's foot sticking out from beneath the bed Yates had been laying on. He lifted the dust ruffle to see the twins laying against one another.

    Pichler's voice quavered as he said one of the children had a dark, red substance around the eyes, nose and mouth. He touched one child's foot with the back of his hand, and it was cool.
    [...]

    Several times during testimony, prosecutors projected evidence photos on a wall showing the children laying in the bedroom. At those moments Yates turned his face away from the images and held up his hand, seemingly to block them from view.
    [...]

    Former Chief Deputy Coroner LuEtta Forbes-Miller testified she came to the scene at about 10 that evening and officially pronounced the children dead.

    She broke down in tears for a moment as she described wrapping their small bodies in clean white sheets and using a couple of empty copy paper boxes to transport them to the Sauk County morgue at about 3 a.m.

    The coroner’s office normally would used a zippered bag to transport the body of a deceased person, but it had nothing suitable for infant children, she said.
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    My heart breaks thinking of those poor twin babies and their last moments.

    I am very suspicious of the mother and her actions, I have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom2three View Post
    My heart breaks thinking of those poor twin babies and their last moments.

    I am very suspicious of the mother and her actions, I have to say.
    I have to agree with you there. As horrible as the whole thing sounds, it also sounds like it could be a set up. Either way, I just cannot wrap my mind around it.

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    Blunt force trauma to the head killed two Baraboo infants in 2008, a pathologist testified Friday, with 5-week-old Savannah Yates suffering at least four blows and her twin, Tyler Yates, also subjected to crushing force that fractured five ribs along his spine.
    [...]

    Savannah Yates had some unusually long abrasions around the base of her neck caused by friction, he said.

    "These are classically inflicted, often, by an item of clothing with a collar," he said. "I see these in fights when someone grabs someone's shirt."

    Both children had dot-like lesions where they suffered bleeding under the skin that Corliss called "overstretch hemorrhaging." This means the skin was stretched and small blood vessels broke, but the skin didn't tear.

    "Where you classically see these is in the abdomen and groin folds of pedestrians struck by automobiles when they get thoracic whiplash, when they arch their back so significantly (backward)," he said.

    Early in Corliss' testimony, Yates reported feeling sick because of what he was seeing and was escorted to the court's holding area.

    While examining Tyler's back, Corliss found five of the child's ribs were fractured near the spine, and he also had bleeding on the front of his heart.

    Holding a piece of paper rolled into a cylinder, Corliss demonstrated for the jury how the injuries could be caused by someone squeezing the child's chest, pushing the breastbone back toward the heart and spine.

    "It often is done with the hand," he said. "Posterior rib fractures are very specific for (child) abusive injuries."

    Despite their many other injuries, Corliss said it was blunt force trauma to the head, including skull fractures, that killed both children.

    When he opened their skulls, both had signs of extensive bleeding on the surface of their brains. Deeper examination of the brain tissue showed areas of severe bleeding, he said.

    Because of the injuries visible around her head, Savannah was subjected to "a minimum of four" blows, Corliss said.

    The injuries to the children’s brains were acute, Corliss said, meaning they died immediately or very soon after suffering the blows. Anything that caused a sudden movement of the children’s heads — and the brain to strike the inside of their skulls — could do it, such as a backhand blow or karate chop.
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    The article above is so disturbing, the details, I can hardly wrap my mind around it. Babies battered, 5 week old...babies?!
    I don't want to think on what was done to Savannah and Tyler their last days alive.

    This woman, Winbun, what the hell was she thinking leaving her babies with this bastard?
    Despite Yates’ conviction earlier this year for abusing her while she was pregnant with the twins, Winbun said
    “If I had thought the kids weren’t safe with David I would not have had them there.
    Really.
    She knew he was very angry at her, had medical problems and was under psychiatric care, taking behavioral medication, on top of that had acted out violently towards her on more than one occasion.
    Along with the domestic abuse arrest while Winbun was pregnant, Yates is also suspected of trying to have her killed prior to the birth of the twins. Other girlfriends have reported that he was abusive in prior relationships.
    How could she leave her children with him? I question her piss poor judgment as a mother, her thought process in which she concluded it was acceptable to leave innocent babies with this sick fuck.

    He clearly is the monster, but she left her babies alone with a sick, dangerous beast. She's guilty, guilty, guilty. Another thing. Why did she leave the babies with him for 3 days?? an incompetent bastard, she leaves her newborn twins with him. It was a death sentence for those babies. Fed them to the monster. She's no mother.


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    Tyler was a very little guy, but his eyes were open wide and taking in the world..".
    Little one you deserved to be loved, cherished and protected always....smile and take in the heaven's. All the glory is yours.
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    brother and sister died together, after only living for 5 weeks, at the hands of their so-called "father"...and the coward can't even face the evidence without feeling sick..what you did was sick you fucker. you wont last in prison, I can guarantee you that.

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    Whoever did it was sick and brutal and should never be allowed to get those images out of their head. They should suffer the same treatment and know that no one cares enough to stop it from happening to them.
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    David R. Yates' defense attorney hammered away Tuesday at details he says point to another person as the killer of his client's infant twins.

    Onalaska lawyer John R. Brinckman concentrated the first day of his case on Susan Winbun, mother of 5-week-old Savannah and Tyler Yates.
    [...]

    When police arrived at his home, Yates was suffering from "serotonin syndrome," Brinckman said, caused by an overdose of medications Yates took for depression and panic disorder. So Yates was confused when he first spoke to officers.

    "I expect the testimony to show someone else was in that house the night before when this homicide occurred," he said. "And I expect the testimony to demonstrate Mr. Yates did not commit these homicides."

    Brinckman suggested Winbun's call to the Sauk County 911 dispatch center that evening shows she already knew Yates had been drugged and the children murdered. She told the dispatcher Yates had blacked out months earlier because of excess serotonin and she had a vision of the children laying dead with him unconscious nearby, he said.

    However, during cross examination by Barrett, Winbun said the story of Yates being afflicted by serotonin syndrome had been suggested to her by Yates to cover up the fact he was violating probation by drinking. During an earlier visit to his home, Winbun said she found Yates intoxicated and unsteady on his feet while caring for the twins.

    Winbun said she threatened that Yates could never visit with the children again if she caught him drunk while caring for them. However, when making the call to dispatch, she didn’t want him yanked back to jail for violating probation.

    "I wanted to be parents with him," Winbun said. "I didn’t want him parenting from jail."

    Brinckman questioned Winbun about a letter she wrote soon after learning she was pregnant in late 2007 and titled My "Demands." He has contended that a desire to extract money from Yates could have been Winbun’s motive.

    The letter included a request for 25 percent of Yates’ gross income — $6,000 monthly in child support, $3,000 for living expenses, baby furniture and a car. There were also non-financial demands such as wanting Yates to be present when the children were born and to take time to bond with them.

    "The letter’s about things I wanted and needed David to do," she said.

    In her cross-examination, Barrett drew out testimony that Winbun had medical problems while carrying Yates’ children.

    Winbun said when she wrote My "Demands" she was on bed rest because of blood clots and worked only a limited number of hours.

    "I’m a very high-risk pregnancy," she said. "I wasn’t getting any help and I had to make sure my kids were taken care of."

    "This was something to help you get through the pregnancy?" Barrett asked.

    "Yes," Winbun said.[...]
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    To present Yates as innocent, Brinckman called the slain twins' mother, Susan Winbun, to the stand.

    Brinckman tried to place her at Yates' home before police arrived, using a text message she sent.

    "I have mental images of someone breaking into your house or you're passed out and the babies dead. Please David, I don't want to go to the cops, I'm begging," said Winbun as she read a copy of the text message.

    Brinckman used the text message to insinuate those images were created by Winbun having already been at the crime scene.
    http://www.channel3000.com/news/25371985/detail.html

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